Natalee Case Discussion #783 12/6/08 - 12/8/08

[San]

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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

[WhiskeyGirl]

we are monkeys

here us roar

of the beast

that swims no more

cast out into the ocean blue

bye--bye at last

from me to you...

[klaasend]

[WhiskeyGirl]

You are right...my bad...

[2NJSons_Mom]

Thanks, Klaas.  I was this close to being ready....

[klaasend]

2NJ - you guys have been spoiling me.  I haven't had to do a thread change in a while so it was my turn 

[klaasend]

The question is if remains were found in the trap, whos?

[WhiskeyGirl]

With regard to drug dealers, traps, and boats on hotel row...

I wonder if Aruba retained the radar records for the weeks following Natalee's disappearance?  Perhaps they have record of all boats/ships in that area in the night hours? 

Maybe they could peak a bit and let us know who was out there?  Maybe they could check the months previous to the Persistence's arrival too?

[the big hammer]

The question is if remains were found in the trap, whos?

42 Inch Diagonal Seems to Work

With an allowance for knee drop off -- height of superimposed image would be 36 inches.  Add 18 for knee to heel.  54 inches.  

Estimated and must allow for poor photo re pro, distance changes underwater, decomposition if applicable.

Natalee = 64 inches in height.

Nice work Klaas.

Looks like it makes reasonable tolerances.

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[Flipper/Donnie29]

The question is if remains were found in the trap, whos?

Im watching dateline right now and i saw the divers do a thumb down.. that it wasnt what they were looking for, and i hit refresh and you pasted the same pic here haha! But yes.. who knows what was in there.. the pics arent that clear, i mean not in any way that you can say well its that or that etc..

[klaasend]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/6749/6/

man owing to burn completo in cas

 saturday, 06 december 2008

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Must be another case of spontanious combustion like Pittbull  

[klaasend]

With regard to drug dealers, traps, and boats on hotel row...

I wonder if Aruba retained the radar records for the weeks following Natalee's disappearance?  Perhaps they have record of all boats/ships in that area in the night hours? 

Maybe they could peak a bit and let us know who was out there?  Maybe they could check the months previous to the Persistence's arrival too?

Not sure why they would want to cooperate and check?  They've spent a whole lot of money and time covering everything up.

[WhiskeyGirl]

When I see those trap/cage pictures a few things come to mind.

What if the body were contained in a tarp when first disposed of?  Nothing in, nothing out but water and bacteria?  

On the lines of absorbant paper towels, what if the body were also wrapped in something like a sheet first?  Maybe that helped keep the pieces together and in that white shape?

Could the trap have been moved?  Towed to that location from another place?

If someone knew the Persistence was to search that area, and they wanted the body found, but not intact, could they have removed the covering and let nature take it's course over a span of a few months?  

Maybe that the white stuff in the photos?  Maybe they scattered stuff outside the cage as well?  

I wonder if they recorded all the evidence gathering?

[klaasend]

Hammer - yes I wanted to see if it was possible.  I really didn't think it was until I determined the approx diag inches.  It is/was possible but of course, no way to say who's body was in the trap.

[klaasend]

When I see those trap/cage pictures a few things come to mind.

What if the body were contained in a tarp when first disposed of?  Nothing in, nothing out but water and bacteria?  

On the lines of absorbant paper towels, what if the body were also wrapped in something like a sheet first?  Maybe that helped keep the pieces together and in that white shape?

Could the trap have been moved?  Towed to that location from another place?

If someone knew the Persistence was to search that area, and they wanted the body found, but not intact, could they have removed the covering and let nature take it's course over a span of a few months?  

Maybe that the white stuff in the photos?  Maybe they scattered stuff outside the cage as well?  

I wonder if they recorded all the evidence gathering?

Yes it could.  Say if the trap was initially in much shallower waters it could have been towed further out.

[Blue Moon]

Does this look like a sandal/shoe in the picture:

[WhiskeyGirl]

With regard to drug dealers, traps, and boats on hotel row...

I wonder if Aruba retained the radar records for the weeks following Natalee's disappearance?  Perhaps they have record of all boats/ships in that area in the night hours? 

Maybe they could peak a bit and let us know who was out there?  Maybe they could check the months previous to the Persistence's arrival too?

Not sure why they would want to cooperate and check?  They've spent a whole lot of money and time covering everything up.

What comes to mind is that someone want's to solve this case--crack it wide open in all it's glory.

If not radar, what about cell phone calls that week?  We know there was a lot of traffic between PVDS & Jan VDS, but from where?  Land lines?  Beach?  Moko?  Bird Sanctuary?  Out in the ocean, away from the hotels?

I wonder who's cell phone records were studied?  How many people of interest are there that we don't know about?

I apologize for any mean posts I have made this evening.  I don't know what I was thinking and mostly things never rhyme for me.

[AZSunny]

The question is if remains were found in the trap, whos?

Im watching dateline right now and i saw the divers do a thumb down.. that it wasnt what they were looking for, and i hit refresh and you pasted the same pic here haha! But yes.. who knows what was in there.. the pics arent that clear, i mean not in any way that you can say well its that or that etc..

And they are in the center front of the cage, vs, where the items were located which is back left, how could they even react that quickly?  I agree with Tim, bull shit.

[Tamikosmom]

Hammer - yes I wanted to see if it was possible.  I really didn't think it was until I determined the approx diag inches.  It is/was possible but of course, no way to say who's body was in the trap.

In other words Tamikosmom's landfill theory is still on the table.

 

Janet

[klaasend]