Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08

[Magnolia]

Would it be too much of stretch to say that Paulass works primarily for Posner and his government jobs with Aruba are really insignificant and basically a front?  If he's a Posner atttorney he no doubt gets big bucks.

I agree that his government jobs are a front.

Hmm..  Interesting theory.  Would Aruba continue to keep him on as an attorney then?  After all the grief his son has brought to the island? 

I don't think paulass works for aruba anymore. Isn't he with carlos now in private practice?

I think Antiono Carlo has always been the front man for Posner
and Paulus.

[truthseeker2]

Would it be too much of stretch to say that Paulass works primarily for Posner and his government jobs with Aruba are really insignificant and basically a front?  If he's a Posner atttorney he no doubt gets big bucks.

I agree that his government jobs are a front.

Hmm..  Interesting theory.  Would Aruba continue to keep him on as an attorney then?  After all the grief his son has brought to the island? 

I don't think paulass works for aruba anymore. Isn't he with carlos now in private practice?

Yes, I think he does work for Carlos now.  But, in what capacity?  Can he practice law and if so would he have to pass the bar, sotaspeak?

[truthseeker2]

Good night everyone.

'Nite, San.   

[San]

Good night everyone.

'Nite, San.   

That wasn't me but I will say goodnight now.  Unless you have ESP and were reading my mind. 

[truthseeker2]

Good night everyone.

'Nite, San.   

That wasn't me but I will say goodnight now.  Unless you have ESP and were reading my mind. 

Lol!  I never knew I had ESP.  Now, that I know I will try to put it to good use!   

(actually, I think I'm just old!)

[truthseeker2]

Good night everyone.

'Nite, San.   

That wasn't me but I will say goodnight now.  Unless you have ESP and were reading my mind. 

And a hearty Goodnite to SS!!

[San]

Good night everyone.

'Nite, San.   

That wasn't me but I will say goodnight now.  Unless you have ESP and were reading my mind. 

Lol!  I never knew I had ESP.  Now, that I know I will try to put it to good use!   

(actually, I think I'm just old!)

You are not old.  But then again I don't know that and maybe I have ESP 

[billb's daughter]

Would it be too much of stretch to say that Paulass works primarily for Posner and his government jobs with Aruba are really insignificant and basically a front?  If he's a Posner atttorney he no doubt gets big bucks.

I agree that his government jobs are a front.

Hmm..  Interesting theory.  Would Aruba continue to keep him on as an attorney then?  After all the grief his son has brought to the island? 

I don't think paulass works for aruba anymore. Isn't he with carlos now in private practice?

Yes, I think he does work for Carlos now.  But, in what capacity?  Can he practice law and if so would he have to pass the bar, sotaspeak?

FWIW, I believe I read here that cj gave paulass a letter releasing him as a suspect so he could practice law in aruba. I cant come up with links like so many of you can, but i'm hopeful that my memory may help someone else pull up the link if they so desire.   

[truthseeker2]

Good night everyone.

'Nite, San.   

That wasn't me but I will say goodnight now.  Unless you have ESP and were reading my mind. 

Lol!  I never knew I had ESP.  Now, that I know I will try to put it to good use!   

(actually, I think I'm just old!)

You are not old.  But then again I don't know that and maybe I have ESP 

I guess old is relative.  I have an old relative.  Bwhahaha!!

[truthseeker2]

FWIW, I believe I read here that cj gave paulass a letter releasing him as a suspect so he could practice law in aruba. I cant come up with links like so many of you can, but i'm hopeful that my memory may help someone else pull up the link if they so desire.   

Oh yeah.  I remember something like that, too.  It was like he had to have someone 'vouch' for him.

[billb's daughter]

Would it be too much of stretch to say that Paulass works primarily for Posner and his government jobs with Aruba are really insignificant and basically a front?  If he's a Posner atttorney he no doubt gets big bucks.

I agree that his government jobs are a front.

Hmm..  Interesting theory.  Would Aruba continue to keep him on as an attorney then?  After all the grief his son has brought to the island? 

I don't think paulass works for aruba anymore. Isn't he with carlos now in private practice?

I think Antiono Carlo has always been the front man for Posner
and Paulus.

Maybe, but didn't ac have the secret meeting (Peter DV exposed) with cj stating that urine was directly involved with Natalee's disappearance but cj had to prove it? 

[truthseeker2]

Maybe, but didn't ac have the secret meeting (Peter DV exposed) with cj stating that urine was directly involved with Natalee's disappearance but cj had to prove it? 

If you mean KJ, then yes I do believe that did happen.  Seems it was reported by Greta during the fall of 2005.

[billb's daughter]

Maybe, but didn't ac have the secret meeting (Peter DV exposed) with cj stating that urine was directly involved with Natalee's disappearance but cj had to prove it? 

If you mean KJ, then yes I do believe that did happen.  Seems it was reported by Greta during the fall of 2005.

Yes, KJ...but I have see it as CJ....

[truthseeker2]

Maybe, but didn't ac have the secret meeting (Peter DV exposed) with cj stating that urine was directly involved with Natalee's disappearance but cj had to prove it? 

If you mean KJ, then yes I do believe that did happen.  Seems it was reported by Greta during the fall of 2005.

Yes, KJ...but I have see it as CJ....

that's cool.

Sometimes have wondered how Karin Janssen can sleep at night.  She doen't appear to have much compassion for victims.  It's almost as if she just does/did whatever the powers that be wanted done.  Almost as if she was some kind of puppet.

[texasmom]

[Keepthefaith]

I think we all understand why Kyle(OE) won't come to speak to Kermit or the Monkey's anymore!Thanx for the post's Kermit. .Is Posner "Dirtyhand"??Do those on the Persistence know who Dirtyhand is?Anyone.Am i way off???

[truthseeker2]

I think we all understand why Kyle(OE) won't come to speak to Kermit or the Monkey's anymore!Thanx for the post's Kermit. .Is Posner "Dirtyhand"??Do those on the Persistence know who Dirtyhand is?Anyone.Am i way off???

I have always believed that Shango was referring to Jan Van Der Straaten as Dirty Hand based on the confirmations he provided to some posters back during that time.

[truthseeker2]

Is Van Der Straten Dirty Hand???


Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.


Shango on June 27th, 2005 12:28 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting

Shango on June 27th, 2005 4:00 am
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his 12:30 posting

Shango on June 27th, 2005 12:12 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found

Shango on June 27th, 2005 12:26 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
Simian your Doppleganger is with us

Shango on June 27th, 2005 12:28 pm
Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting

Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:44 pm
Babalu opened a window looking into babylon on his 12:31 A.M. Post
DirtyHand is alive

Shango on June 27th, 2005 9:48 pm
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12

drax on June 27th, 2005 10:57 pm
DirtyHand has walked through the maze:…is DirtyHand Poppa VDS?

Shango on June 27th, 2005 11:01 pm
The Drax asks a question for which he already provided an answer.

Shango on June 27th, 2005 11:04 pm
Babalu opened a window looking onto Babylon with his 12:30 A.M. post

drax on June 27th, 2005 11:08 pm
Shango says: The Drax asks a question for which he already provided an answer.
I don’t understand, Shango.

Babalú on June 27th, 2005 11:10 pm
He’s talking about Dirty Hands identity, please refer to my post of yesterday 12:30 AM. He is JVDS, and not Joran.

Lucy on June 27th, 2005 10:56 pm
Someone said last night that Dirty Hand was somebody in the police.

Shango on June 27th, 2005 11:13 pm
Lucy spoke at 10:56


Shango on June 30th, 2005 2:04 am
Observe all communications from Shango and judge from their worth….
DirtyHand is the the Keystone!
The lamb is in ther fold, and the shivas.
Threadsurfers, if they cannot out a lamb to manger, how will they deal with lions?
DirtyHand is the key and may leave soon to avoid attention from the cowboys and the fort


Shango on June 30th, 2005 2:31 am
Watcher opened a window looking onto babylon at 2:29.
He holds the key to the ONLY door which opens the door to the lions den


(watcher on June 30th, 2005 2:29 am
I think Subdude is on the right track about the media putting pressure on WHY the polis chief is leaving.)

[Keepthefaith]

I think we all understand why Kyle(OE) won't come to speak to Kermit or the Monkey's anymore!Thanx for the post's Kermit. .Is Posner "Dirtyhand"??Do those on the Persistence know who Dirtyhand is?Anyone.Am i way off???

I have always believed that Shango was referring to Jan Van Der Straaten as Dirty Hand based on the confirmations he provided to some posters back during that time.

I may be way off but i try to equate "Dirtyhand" with the Character "Michael Clayton" played by George Clooney in the movie of the same name.He was "The FIXER" for a huge law firm.If you've seen the movie  it is quite interesting.Who besides Van Der Stratten has there Hand in everything on that Island,as well as the power to fix it???Truthseeker??

[Anna]

I have always thought vd Straten was Dirty Hand.