Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08

[SS]

I think we all understand why Kyle(OE) won't come to speak to Kermit or the Monkey's anymore!Thanx for the post's Kermit. .Is Posner "Dirtyhand"??Do those on the Persistence know who Dirtyhand is?Anyone.Am i way off???

I have always believed that Shango was referring to Jan Van Der Straaten as Dirty Hand based on the confirmations he provided to some posters back during that time.

I may be way off but i try to equate "Dirtyhand" with the Character "Michael Clayton" played by George Clooney in the movie of the same name.He was "The FIXER" for a huge law firm.If you've seen the movie  it is quite interesting.Who besides Van Der Stratten has there Hand in everything on that Island,as well as the power to fix it???Truthseeker??

I think there is more than one Dirty Hand depending on who the source is.  Uncle Jan van der Strattan was definitely a Dirty Hand and that is who the codetalkers seem to describe.  Our friend also told us about Frans Deutekom who we refer to as DTKM.  Supposedly he was sent to keep an eye on everything and clean up after Rudy Croes.  He is referred to as the behavior specialist and he is very powerful behind the scenes.  Posner would certainly be another Dirty Hand because of his mob power.

[texasmom]

http://www.groene.nl/1996/39/rz_aruba.html

Google translation:

9/25/1996

The affair aruba

What did the Amsterdam police in Aruba to search? And why de Ruiter Job wants the entire police and juistitietop replaced on that island? The IRT affair gets a Caribbean tail TO SHORT saw the radiant future for mr JHM Zwinkels. The Attorney-General of Aruba, until September 1991, subordinate to RA Gonsalves at the court in 's-Hertogenbosch, stood in his new work at the head of an ever-expanding further device. Money played no role in the fight against crime in the overseas territory.

BY Rene Zwaap

Since the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) in late eighties to Aruba Winds Down hotbed of international drug mafia uitriep and the motherland's insistence on strong action, the sky was the limit. There was a lemming-like flow of Dutch lawyers toward the small subtropical tourist paradise in motion, with some divisions in the wake of the Royal Navy, undercover agents of the Inter-Regional Rechercheteam (IRT) Melbourne-Sydney, infiltrators from the DEA and U.S. Customs officers.
Soon, the local Public Ministry proportionately three times as large as that of colleagues in Den Haag. It was also the island with a joyful own telefoontap central to the successful recipe of the donor country, where the central interception by the police and justice now houses an equally enjoy high popularity as before Honecker in East Germany or Richard Nixon White House. At a rustic coral reefs point to the Aruban verres the imposing villa of Mr. Zwinkels, as a symbol for the high expectations that he must have had about the new phase of his career had ended up.
On Monday, the idyll under the azure sky of Aruba shattered. Via De Telegraaf leaked a draft of the report of a rich committee headed by former Minister of Justice and Defense Job from the Horseman. In its advice to Voorhoeve of Aruban Affairs Minister De Ruiter suggests a genuine bureaucratic Bartholomew Eight with regard to the entire judiciary and police of the small island. The two police commisarissen of Orange City, Arie Rasmijn and Stanley Zaandam, according to The Horseman because of "unacceptable behavior" from the avenue be sent.
They should be replaced by J. the point, now head of the National Police. That aspect of The Rider Zwinkels reporting should have done. Rasmijn and Zaandam were grown in a short time to his arch-enemies, which so on. The report, De Ruiter also insists on the departure of another tormentor of Zwinkels, the Aruban Minister of Justice Watty Vos, who is responsible for the governance crisis in which draconian law enforcement on the island is immersed.
The bad news is that Zwinkels for his own position will be sacrificed if the opinion of De Ruiter is fully implemented. Zwinkels possible dismissal should be regarded as a peace offering from Den Haag, chief prosecutor in this case A. Docters van Leeuwen and Minister Sorgdrager. They are prepared their man on the bonds to Aruba if that frees them from the very dissident police on the island. According to De Ruiter investments Zwinkels line will not be replaced. His office fell. Instead, there would be a super prosecutor be appointed for both the Antilles as Aruba.
FOR THIS 'clean' in the proper perspective to see, it is necessary to return to February this year. When seized by the De Ruiter now so in the regular verdomhoekje Aruban police chiefs to the Rasmijn and Zaandam typmachine to draw up a report that grew into a bomb under the feet of not only Zwinkels, but also the Amsterdam police leadership, the Domestic Security Service, the Central Forensic Information Service (CRI), the Royal Navy, the DEA, the Hague Public Ministry and the various political leaders in the mainland.
"Already in the year 1995, your government on several occasions whether or not the intervention of the Minister of Justice Mr EJ Vos told us at least to address concerns of the Attorney-General Mr. JHM Zwinkels and Chief Prosecutor of the public prosecutor's Ministry Aruba mr JJ Van Eck, "Sun began reporting the Aruban politieduo to their ministers and Vos JHA Eman of General Affairs. Rasmijn Zaandam and made mention of "very bad things" would be concerned with Zwinkels. On the basis of reports from various police inspectors were Rasmijn Aruba and Zaandam with three major allegations against Zwinkels. The first case concerned a piece of the so-called "controlled by transit 'of 1000 pounds of marijuana from Aruba, for the benefit of the infiltration of a Colombian drug syndicate. Through straw men of the Justice Party would weed in Aruba offered to the Colombians, who then would ship to Canada.
The operation started in 1992 and was coordinated by Zwinkels. Justice would receive one million guilders for the party. Half of it, is informed Zwinkels to co Rasmijn would with the consent of Minister of Justice Vos in an account of the Aruban government be paid, so good for the island to make. However, it was not until 1994, just after the end of 1993 in the Netherlands IRT crisis had broken out, an amount received, namely 900,000 guilders. Zaandam in the Rasmijn and their report: "By Zwinkels prosecutor was determined that the controlled drug delivery and payment would not be writing; that of the amount collected 360,000, - for expenses incurred to the Dutch police would be paid, whereas the remaining amount Netherlands in his (Zwinkels - RZ) persoonijke bank would be paid that amount on his behalf by the intervention of staff of the CRI-Netherlands would be transferred to a secret account in England. Agents eventually would like to recover the amount one and only Mr. Zwinkels Commissioner Karsten of the Netherlands-CRI act. "
In December 1995 the Aruban government had still received no money from the deal. However, it was already half the proceeds - nearly half million - disappeared into the pockets of the two criminal infiltrators who had served Zwinkels. Chief to complain about the Rasmijn accused by Zwinkels. This gave him to understand that this is a complicated matter, which relates to the Netherlands playing IRT affair, thus requiring the futures Aruba party now would be difficult. "
That same month will Rasmijn turned to his Minister of Justice Vos. This Zwinkels denied anything ever having heard about the transaction. Vos was offended. "Only the fact that the Attorney-General (Zwinkels - RZ) did not consider it necessary to explain this to me, he is charged as such," the minister did know. Later accused the Aruban police Zwinkels 60,000 guilders to have them removed from the drug capital, which he set in its own ABN-Amro Taking would HEBEN parked.
ALSO THE SECOND the Rasmijn case and Zaandam wraakten in their report, was linked to the IRT-drama. The Aruban police noted in 1995 that some undercover agents of the Dutch police, or the BVD and the CRI, regular sums of money donated to the resident in Aruba wife of the arrested drug dealer Jack S.. The local police were completely surprised when it emerged that S., who was considered in a Dutch prison to stay at the end of 1995 suddenly appeared again in Aruba. He was sent on leave. And Zaandam will Rasmijn amazed that they are not by the Dutch Justice were informed that S. would come to Aruba.
Even greater was their surprise when they heard that the special leave for S. an action was Zwinkels. The latter gave the police chiefs over his right to mean that Van Eck S. 'is free to go and go where he wants. " And Zaandam will Rasmijn could not avoid the impression that the release of S. was exposed to the weed party for the Colombians. They felt deeply excluded.
That feeling was very strong around Christmas 1995 when they were suddenly faced with an order of Zwinkels and Van Eck that the Aruban police no activity on the day could explain for the benefit of the arrest of two drug dealers identified. Any form of action in that direction would be regarded as insubordination.
Instead, the Amsterdam police skilful leadership twenty heads a strong team from arrest to Aruba. Meanwhile, the Aruban police forbade Zwinkels also to any witnesses in a major drugs case should be heard, including former Justice Minister Rudy Croes. Van Eck Zwinkels right against Rasmijn and Zaandam: 'Shame on you realize that this witness an ex-Minister of Justice and current statenlid. You do not correspondences witnesses. Keep in mind that he as Minister of Justice could return in the next government. "
SHORT: the conclusion of Zaandam and the Rasmijn that Aruban police was kaltgestellt by Zwinkels, was certainly justified. The fear of Zwinkels to the local police in its investigations into them, their distrust fed right. It certainly appears that a mega-Zwinkels undercover operation of the Amsterdam police tried to keep secret. And that in 1995, two years after the Amsterdam Commissioner Nordholt and the Amsterdam Public Vrakking their loud disapproval had heard about the alleged infiltration method and IRT-Mayor Van Thijn was about to liquidation of the IRT Sydney / Melbourne.
This affair is quite interesting if the persistent rumors from Aruba to believe that some Dutch naval ships made available in guiding the transportation of the weed of the Colombians. That rumor seems to be motivated by the fact that Zwinkels the documents on the undercover operation to be equal to the headquarters of the Navy under Arubau brought on when the local press of the island on the matter began to call.
The Netherlands has a lot to lose in this case. That was the thrust of the letter that the Aruban former Minister of Justice Henry Croes usually very informed circles earlier this month to Prime Minister Cook sent. Croes urged them to absolute discretion in this affair. The report-The Horseman is a first step in that direction. © Rene Zwaap / De Groene Amsterdammer

   # 39 / 1996 | 25-09-1996 | Forward

Mum,
I think this may be the same article.

Oops...Sorry TM....

Do you know if the Investigation Group in Aruba - Lans...something...LOL...is the same as the National Bureu of Investion there?  I can place van der Straten there as early as 1994.  TIA

No problem Mum, just wanted you to have the full translated article if you wanted it.

Yes, I think someone (maybe Caesu) posted that earlier in relation to Van der Straten.  Can't put my finger on it yet, but I believe it is the same position.

[COLOMBO]

DirtyHand.....and dirty hand:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding (Arawak) it dirty too.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders
game, pg 4:    http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
          pg 7:   excerpt-
"Pipkins entertained members of a municipal police force at his home on at least one occasion,
where they engaged in sexual intercourse with his prostitutes."  (worried about teepees)
.........what did Babalu say!!!???

Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search (TO PLAY) for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis. (DirtyHand is the link-holds the real key!)



Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak (Babylonian)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arawaks (dirty hand) want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand (the link! he holds the real key) is not found

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the note$
to the poison house (need key)
where the children of the babylonians (play (game) in the maze)
and the arawak nation (dirty hands)
meet, under cover of delusion. (meet....to trade....dangerous to trade among arawak)
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.   ($$$)
Tell the cowboys! 


Shango:
Why did the girl owe money?

[MumInOhio]

OK...Thanks TM...Here is the link to what I found and may be what Kermit cited.  The list of names is right down...almost to the bottom.

http://www.cpt.coe.int/documents/nld/1996-27-inf-eng-1.htm

Caesu...Some old discussions from May...Just in case you might want to refresh what you were looking at back then.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2830.280

Carlos Severino Tromp points to Ruud Rosingh as being corrupt...Do we know what he is doing or where he is?  TIA

BBL....Spent a lot of time over the last few months looking into all these "dots"...Maybe some will connect!

[COLOMBO]

coverups begin with the elders and the founders of the houses of babylon

"audition" the singing card:
http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

DirtyHand knows
so does the elder
(in the fold of "The Arawak King"-lowly minions)

[MumInOhio]

DirtyHand.....and dirty hand:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding (Arawak) it dirty too.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders
game, pg 4:    http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
          pg 7:   excerpt-
"Pipkins entertained members of a municipal police force at his home on at least one occasion,
where they engaged in sexual intercourse with his prostitutes."  (worried about teepees)
.........what did Babalu say!!!???

Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search (TO PLAY) for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis. (DirtyHand is the link-holds the real key!)



Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak (Babylonian)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arawaks (dirty hand) want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand (the link! he holds the real key) is not found

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the note$
to the poison house (need key)
where the children of the babylonians (play (game) in the maze)
and the arawak nation (dirty hands)
meet, under cover of delusion. (meet....to trade....dangerous to trade among arawak)
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.   ($$$)
Tell the cowboys! 


Shango:
Why did the girl owe money?

Hi COLOMBO...Recall a post of Rob's in Shango that there are at least 5 Dirty Hands...depending on Capitalization and word structure. Do you recall what he posted?  TIA

[COLOMBO]

DirtyHand.....and dirty hand:

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding (Arawak) it dirty too.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders
game, pg 4:    http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf
          pg 7:   excerpt-
"Pipkins entertained members of a municipal police force at his home on at least one occasion,
where they engaged in sexual intercourse with his prostitutes."  (worried about teepees)
.........what did Babalu say!!!???

Babalú Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Concerned: No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search (TO PLAY) for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis. (DirtyHand is the link-holds the real key!)



Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not an Arawak (Babylonian)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arawaks (dirty hand) want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand (the link! he holds the real key) is not found

Shango Says: June 28th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Follow the note$
to the poison house (need key)
where the children of the babylonians (play (game) in the maze)
and the arawak nation (dirty hands)
meet, under cover of delusion. (meet....to trade....dangerous to trade among arawak)
In the maze
the lions which play
shall be found.
The gamblers also took note.   ($$$)
Tell the cowboys! 


Shango:
Why did the girl owe money?

Hi COLOMBO...Recall a post of Rob's in Shango that there are at least 5 Dirty Hands...depending on Capitalization and word structure. Do you recall what he posted?  TIA

ALL the arawaks know the maze which plays the poison songs

[COLOMBO]

maze difficult for supposed guilty, even if innocent

the maze which plays the poison songs

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:30 pm
Who knows what song the elder will sing (poison song):
 
(who did NH owe?)
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:31 pm
The shivas knew the girl
the arawaks new the girl
and the babylonians still know the girl

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:22 pm
Because the fallen judge agreed, he can sing any song he wants (what a judge does!)
A poisonou$ siren in the halls of babylon

poison song:
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:27 pm
The elder had to come clean. He knows what damage he had caused. The Simian said to not shake the wire, ‘cause the bird would fly away.
The Simian would never pose. Go back and read what the Simian wrote. The Babylonians knows what happened, but they are up in arms. The gamblers knew the girl. 

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Simain thinks that Babalú is clueless about who the Babylonians are. The Simian thinks that is really funny.
The Simian will make an exception and answer: The gamblers knew the girl.

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 11:37 pm
How can so many gamblers be wrong about the girl? This is unbelievable. (took note)

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:36 pm
All that the gamblers knew was written down. They knew the girl. She spent her nights at their tables.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRK-CQVQevQ

[truthseeker2]

yes it is. but there are only 5 higher courts in The Netherlands.
one higher court covers a large part of the country.
http://www.rechtspraak.nl/Gerechten/Gerechtshoven/

i do find Zwinkels interesting. because he was PG of Aruba during and after the IRT-affair.
Aruba had his own Cargo-affair.
in short it is police officers getting rich of under cover drug-smuggling operation.
instead of cathing the drug-smuggers they stayed longer undercover then needed - to get rich of it.
there is tons of information about this.
with conspiracy theories going as high up as possible - and if you really get into it, it goes back to colonial crimes by Dutch military in Indonesia.

but i haven't found a link between Zwinkels and Van der Sloot.
however the Cargo-affair is linked to Henny Eman and Watty Vos (AVP Government in middle 90s).
in fact it is suggested that the Cargo-affair was used by Eman / Vos to get rid of Zwinkels.
also links to Hendrik Croes, brother of Rudy Croes and former Justice Minister (early 90s).
but it gets very shady around all that. most of it is in the Groene Amsterdammer articles.
http://www.groene.nl/1996/26/De_aruba-missie_van_docters_van_leeuwen/11
http://www.groene.nl/1996/48/Een_tikkeltje_te_wild_amigo/8
http://www.groene.nl/1996/49/Braaf_aruba
http://www.groene.nl/1996/40/De_arubaanse_beerput_is_niet_meer_te_dempen/9
http://www.groene.nl/1997/34/Arubas_status_aparte_is_bloedrood/5

Wow.  This thing goes really deep in Aruba.  Thanks for the links.  I will spend some time looking through all of tha information.

[truthseeker2]

Was trying to read up on Zwinkels.  One thing interesting...during the crack down on drugs, in the early 90s, it was said that Dutch lawyers flocked to the island (in 1992).  Makes me wonder about Paulus's whole purpose in going to Aruba.  Maybe his whole intent was to work for and defend the connected.

Hi Buckeye...I have been trying for ages to look at Zwinkels...same old problem...it is so time consuming to trnslte from Dutch to English.

This one is about the Cargo affair and 2 cops are mentioned.

In the Netherlands was particularly super-prosecutor A. Docters van Leeuwen die in grote woede ontstak over de indiscrete rapportages van de Arubaanse politie. Docters van Leeuwen in great anger about the indiscreet ontstak reports of the Aruban police. Rasmijn en Zaandam moesten weg. Rasmijn and Zaandam had gone. De commissie-De Ruiter drong in zijn rapport ook aan op ontslag voor de beide politieagenten. The committee-The Horseman in his report also called for dismissal of the two policemen. Maar daar wil Aruba niet aan, blijkt uit een gesprek dat De Groene Amsterdammer een dag na de ondertekening van het rijksbesluit met Eman voerde in zijn Haagse hotel. But that does not want to Aruba, an interview that De Groene Amsterdammer a day after the signing of the empire act by Eman Hague claimed in his hotel.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.groene.nl/1996/49/Braaf_aruba&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=4&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DZwinkels%2Baruba%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

As a pure coincidence, and to pique your natural Shango curiosity just a bit, Leeuwen in Dutch means Lions.

[truthseeker2]

Docters van Leeuwen was born in The Hague. After studying law (degree 1969) and various functions for the Dutch government, he became head of the Domestic Security Service, the Dutch secret service (currently the AIVD), in 1989.  In 1995, he was succeeded by Nico Buis, after Docters van Leeuwen became a member and chairman of the Board of Procurators General in The Hague (a board which supervises Dutch public prosecutors).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Docters_van_Leeuwen

[Bearlyhere]

O/T  New thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4250.msg582642#msg582642

Please post any unusual recipes you have tried and liked.  Thanks!

[COLOMBO]

In the maze, the lions which play will be found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRK-CQVQevQ

Babylon holds the answers:
http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

[truthseeker2]

In the maze, the lions which play will be found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRK-CQVQevQ

Babylon holds the answers:
http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

The Wyndham Cabaret Royale

Apparently, owner Alfonso Riverol went to Cuba himself for the auditions and picked only the cream of the crop. It's a dirty job, he banters, but it must be done.  Alfonso Riverol is a great host and he put the party together with his very experienced resort staff. As his guest of honor he invited Zizi Lee, first runner up Miss World, Aruba's most famous citizen. The tall and gorgeous beauty queen was escorted by her family members. Parties at the Wyndham are always generous, and the food on the buffet was exceptional: mini lamb chops, giant shrimp cooked in cream and Pernod, crab cakes and beautiful canapés. Free flowing drinks from the bar made the event ever so easier to handle. General Manager Rob Smith and Director of Operations Joe Najjar greeted their guests and mingled with other general managers from the strip among them Jeff Lesker from the Radisson and Barry Kaplan from the Hyatt.s promi 

[truthseeker2]

In the maze, the lions which play will be found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRK-CQVQevQ

Babylon holds the answers:
http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

The Wyndham Cabaret Royale

Apparently, owner Alfonso Riverol went to Cuba himself for the auditions and picked only the cream of the crop. It's a dirty job, he banters, but it must be done.  Alfonso Riverol is a great host and he put the party together with his very experienced resort staff. As his guest of honor he invited Zizi Lee, first runner up Miss World, Aruba's most famous citizen. The tall and gorgeous beauty queen was escorted by her family members. Parties at the Wyndham are always generous, and the food on the buffet was exceptional: mini lamb chops, giant shrimp cooked in cream and Pernod, crab cakes and beautiful canapés. Free flowing drinks from the bar made the event ever so easier to handle. General Manager Rob Smith and Director of Operations Joe Najjar greeted their guests and mingled with other general managers from the strip among them Jeff Lesker from the Radisson and Barry Kaplan from the Hyatt.s promi 

Note:  that excerpt is from the link you posted, Colombo.  The article is from 2001.

[truthseeker2]

At the AHATA General Assembly
New Chairman Alfonso Riveroll makes an excellent speech
A.M. Digital
12/05/2005

The Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino hosted the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association General Assembly last week. On the assembly’s agenda: the election of the new board with Chairman Alfonso Riveroll at the helm.

Riveroll, the owner of the Wyndham Aruba Resort Spa & Casino was visibly excited to assume the leadership of Aruba’s most important association



snip


At the end of his presentation, Riveroll reflected a bit on the most unprecedented level of media attention, Aruba has received in the past six month, most of it negative.

“Our image,” he said, “has certainly been tarnished and AHATA has been at the forefront with ATA, ATIA, Government, Chamber of Commerce and local business leaders, teaming up with a common purpose, to preserve the island’s image and minimize the impact of the Holloway disappearance. We have fared well, but we need to face such challenges with bold and fast actions,” he stated.

[truthseeker2]

At the AHATA General Assembly
New Chairman Alfonso Riveroll makes an excellent speech
A.M. Digital
12/05/2005

The Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino hosted the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association General Assembly last week. On the assembly’s agenda: the election of the new board with Chairman Alfonso Riveroll at the helm.

Riveroll, the owner of the Wyndham Aruba Resort Spa & Casino was visibly excited to assume the leadership of Aruba’s most important association



snip


At the end of his presentation, Riveroll reflected a bit on the most unprecedented level of media attention, Aruba has received in the past six month, most of it negative.

“Our image,” he said, “has certainly been tarnished and AHATA has been at the forefront with ATA, ATIA, Government, Chamber of Commerce and local business leaders, teaming up with a common purpose, to preserve the island’s image and minimize the impact of the Holloway disappearance. We have fared well, but we need to face such challenges with bold and fast actions,” he stated.

Oops...Forgot to include the link:

http://tinyurl.com/5t39dk

[COLOMBO]

In the maze, the lions which play will be found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRK-CQVQevQ

Babylon holds the answers:
http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

The Wyndham Cabaret Royale

Apparently, owner Alfonso Riverol went to Cuba himself for the auditions and picked only the cream of the crop. It's a dirty job, he banters, but it must be done.  Alfonso Riverol is a great host and he put the party together with his very experienced resort staff. As his guest of honor he invited Zizi Lee, first runner up Miss World, Aruba's most famous citizen. The tall and gorgeous beauty queen was escorted by her family members. Parties at the Wyndham are always generous, and the food on the buffet was exceptional: mini lamb chops, giant shrimp cooked in cream and Pernod, crab cakes and beautiful canapés. Free flowing drinks from the bar made the event ever so easier to handle. General Manager Rob Smith and Director of Operations Joe Najjar greeted their guests and mingled with other general managers from the strip among them Jeff Lesker from the Radisson and Barry Kaplan from the Hyatt.s promi 

Note:  that excerpt is from the link you posted, Colombo.  The article is from 2001.

same guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-d16Jlzj_o&feature=related
http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

(see youtube "info")

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/07/latest-on-peter-r-de-vries-tv-show-this-sunday-on-disappearance-of-natalee-holloway-in-aruba-joran-van-der-sloot-evolution-of-a-sociopath/
excerpt:
During talks at a hotel he says now that he can make weekly young women. The visas and passports are no problem, he claims. “I rule that all, do not worry!” Formally, the girls, who think dancer to be, in our country training. In reality, they six days a week working in a brothel.
‘Typical’


question: does JVDS always "have money to gamble?" or is that his compensation?

[billb's daughter]

Doesn't Zaandam's quote say Paulus was Chief of Staff under Zwinkles?

Nixon died in 1994.

Randy Habibe and Jossy Arends were indicted (but not extradited) in 1993 for The LaCosta Cartel scandal.

Clinton starts crackdown on illicit drug trade 1996.

If everything was simple...Joran was in big trouble...Paulus very well could have asked connected people for help.  None of them would have wanted the FBI open door policy. 

The mob can leave "suicides" with hands in the pocket, as a message....or when they just want something to disappear...cement shoes.

In this case, maybe they placed Natalee in the large cage and then pushed it off one of their boats/ships. (which is the way Kyle described the finding).

Their problem is not Natalee's demise but the actual removal...a simple favor run amuck..

or

Natalee was targeted and there is a lot of seedy old men...and some prune faced women involved.

billb

IIRC  Paulus asked for review of the dossier.  When KJ replied to the request, she said no because you are not a suspect, so you are not entitled to view the dossier.  Paulus then used that letter to get his law license.

Thanks Buckeye....
Yep....I lean toward seedy old men...something bad happened...paulass calls in favors that end up running amuck....

[COLOMBO]

At the AHATA General Assembly
New Chairman Alfonso Riveroll makes an excellent speech
A.M. Digital
12/05/2005

The Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino hosted the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association General Assembly last week. On the assembly’s agenda: the election of the new board with Chairman Alfonso Riveroll at the helm.

Riveroll, the owner of the Wyndham Aruba Resort Spa & Casino was visibly excited to assume the leadership of Aruba’s most important association



snip


At the end of his presentation, Riveroll reflected a bit on the most unprecedented level of media attention, Aruba has received in the past six month, most of it negative.

“Our image,” he said, “has certainly been tarnished and AHATA has been at the forefront with ATA, ATIA, Government, Chamber of Commerce and local business leaders, teaming up with a common purpose, to preserve the island’s image and minimize the impact of the Holloway disappearance. We have fared well, but we need to face such challenges with bold and fast actions,” he stated.

Oops...Forgot to include the link:

http://tinyurl.com/5t39dk

if he is to reign anew he can be soiled no more

aside: wasn't "the board" contolling the investigation?