Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08

[Kermit]

Kermit!!!  Yeah!

Can you help me with something, please?

I have been trying to find out what happened to a certain person who was arrested in Aruba some time ago.

Senior officials of Seagram, Diageo and Pernod Ricard traveled to Aruba to meet face to face with acquaintances and 'dangerous' criminals, as the prosecution said, as Samuel Santander Lopesierra, Alfonso Fuminaya, Randolf Habib, David Cybul and Jose Lopesierra with to discuss their trade in sale of liquor, even at the risk of being arrested for the proceedings.


I know where the others ended up, but what ever became of David Cybul?

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.primerapagina.com.co/MostrarDocumentoPublico.aspx%3Fid%3D1107751&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522david%2Bcybul%2522%2Bhabibe%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:*:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7GPEA_enUS303

I honestly do not know.

[2NJSons_Mom]

I rather be posting with the same people I have been posting with for the past three and a half years than a bunch of traitors.  People are making themselves look foolish and are no longer trustworthy to me and that means a lot in my book. 

I agree (both times)!! 

Thanks for the catch Wreck 

   I noticed but thought San was using a new form of being emphatic about something. 

[Kermit]

Kermit,
I don't need any personal information!  I believe you!   

Thank you texasmom.

[truthseeker2]

Kermit!!!  Yeah!

Can you help me with something, please?

I have been trying to find out what happened to a certain person who was arrested in Aruba some time ago.

Senior officials of Seagram, Diageo and Pernod Ricard traveled to Aruba to meet face to face with acquaintances and 'dangerous' criminals, as the prosecution said, as Samuel Santander Lopesierra, Alfonso Fuminaya, Randolf Habib, David Cybul and Jose Lopesierra with to discuss their trade in sale of liquor, even at the risk of being arrested for the proceedings.


I know where the others ended up, but what ever became of David Cybul?

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.primerapagina.com.co/MostrarDocumentoPublico.aspx%3Fid%3D1107751&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522david%2Bcybul%2522%2Bhabibe%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:*:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7GPEA_enUS303

I honestly do not know.

Okay, I'll keep diggin'.

[klaasend]

Janet - 2NJ was asking why Yapperz couldn't just share info out in the open and why SHE was asking me to give you her email addy. 

Klaas ... I am so troubled.

Yap ... has been a Monkey forever.  She has always been on the side of justice for Natalee Holloway.  Monkeys have upheld her in prayer at least a couple of times while she was enduring storms in his life.

What is happening???  There is something that I am not understanding.

Janet

Some people think they are special I guess and post in private forums.  People that have left here and only occasionally post at SM or have been banned here.  Now there is a new forum that I have heard Destiny and ******* are in charge of.  I can only guess that Yapperz is getting information in either a private forum or via email and she feels a need to disagree with Kermit.  Unfortunately for everyone who is disagreeing with Kermit, only Kermit has had the balls to post with backup. 

So my answer is, put up or shut up.  It's been 3 1/2 years and I for one are sick of secrets and secret forums.

[wreck]

I rather be posting with the same people I have been posting with for the past three and a half years than a bunch of traitors.  People are making themselves look foolish and are no longer trustworthy to me and that means a lot in my book. 

I agree (both times)!! 

Thanks for the catch Wreck  ::Monkeys::

(and your sig line is appropriate again tonight) 

[Keepthefaith]

Kermit~  You shouldn't have to prove who you are in real life for the sake of credibility. 

No I should not.

Maybe those women would like to come back and test my integrity.
I'm more then willing to help everyone understand EVERYTHING.

I'm trusting enough flies,as well as comfortable seating on a lily-pad will suffice for the telling of the TRUTH when Kermit is ready to reveal!

[snoopy]

I believe you Kermit for what it's worth.  I lost a lot of credibility last week trying to help a friend see that she was being mis-lead.  She didn't get it, and that won't happen to me again.

[texasmom]

I rather be posting with the same people I have been posting with for the past three and a half years than a bunch of traitors.  People are making themselves look foolish and are no longer trustworthy to me and that means a lot in my book. 

I agree (both times)!! 

Thanks for the catch Wreck  ::Monkeys::

(and your sig line is appropriate again tonight) 

Ain't that the truth!    

[Kermit]

This is so cool.  Look at the post cards that can be bought.....
Clinton:      http://www.nixonlibraryfoundation.org/index.php?src=directory&view=products&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&xsearch_id=store_search&xsearch%5B0%5D=at+Nixon%5C%27s+Funeral&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&refno=826&srctype=products_detail
Billy Graham:        http://www.nixonlibraryfoundation.org/index.php?src=directory&view=products&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&xsearch_id=store_search&xsearch%5B0%5D=at+Nixon%5C%27s+Funeral&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&refno=823&srctype=products_detail

It would be kind of hard to take the picture and be in it from a distance at the same time.

I still believe Kermit.

THANK YOU SAN - and you know why you believe me - because I'm TELLING THE TRUTH


from my own personal files

If I HAVE TO PULL OUT MORE PHOTOS of the President's Funeral I can.
BECAUSE I was there up close and personal!

Kermit you don' have to pull out any photos.  If certain people don't believe you than tough.  You have nothing to prove to them.  They are doing this to draw you out.

I know they want to discredit what I have told you so they can keep their game plan.

[Tamikosmom]

Hey Janet!  I know...was just repeating what Greta said for public consumption tonight regarding Rudy Croes...  The demand for investigative answers said '' in high dudgeon " spiel coming forth from Aruba has been going on for a very long time..lol.  I'll be surprised if anything comes out of this latest bru-ha-ha via Rudy Croes...it's just a constant merry go round....  At least it's still being discussed by Greta.

Ono ... I agree and ... I am thankful.  However ... I believe that the topic of the cage/trap would be a better topic of discussion.

NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S REMAINS COULD HAVE BEEN IN THAT CAGE/TRAP.

Why is the topic of the cage/trap not out there??  Why is the John Q. Kelly not exposing this revelation??  Why is John Q. Kelly not publicly demanding answers??

I wish I knew the entire story.  It seems there are secrets on and off the forum in regards to the contents of the trap/cage ... in regards to the dynamics encompassing the John S/ALE connection.

 

Janet

Janet

[Kermit]

I believe you Kermit for what it's worth.  I lost a lot of credibility last week trying to help a friend see that she was being mis-lead.  She didn't get it, and that won't happen to me again.

I felt at that time, that you were trying to be a good person and that prompted me to not say anything to you.
But you were being mis-lead.

[snoopy]

Janet - 2NJ was asking why Yapperz couldn't just share info out in the open and why SHE was asking me to give you her email addy. 

Klaas ... I am so troubled.

Yap ... has been a Monkey forever.  She has always been on the side of justice for Natalee Holloway.  Monkeys have upheld her in prayer at least a couple of times while she was enduring storms in his life.

What is happening???  There is something that I am not understanding.

Janet

I don't understand it either Janet.  It's hurtful, and disheartning.

[Ono]

I rather be posting with the same people I have been posting with for the past three and a half years than a bunch of traitors.  People are making themselves look foolish and are no longer trustworthy to me and that means a lot in my book. 

I agree (both times)!! 

Thanks for the catch Wreck 

I saw it too...

[MuffyBee]

I believe you Kermit for what it's worth.  I lost a lot of credibility last week trying to help a friend see that she was being mis-lead.  She didn't get it, and that won't happen to me again.

Snoop ~  I know you were trying to help get it sorted out.  You're still okay with me.

[Keepthefaith]

Kermit.We as Monkey's have been talking about the Mansur family and should they know what transpired do to their apparent status on the island.Are we being unfair?Is this worth more questions?TIA

[Kermit]

Kermit~  You shouldn't have to prove who you are in real life for the sake of credibility. 

No I should not.

Maybe those women would like to come back and test my integrity.
I'm more then willing to help everyone understand EVERYTHING.

I'm trusting enough flies,as well as comfortable seating on a lily-pad will suffice for the telling of the TRUTH when Kermit is ready to reveal!

Yeah, flies are good source of protein.

[San]

I rather be posting with the same people I have been posting with for the past three and a half years than a bunch of traitors.  People are making themselves look foolish and are no longer trustworthy to me and that means a lot in my book. 

I agree (both times)!! 

Thanks for the catch Wreck 

   I noticed but thought San was using a new form of being emphatic about something. 

Sometimes when I post I write it in word first and copy and paste it and I pasted it twice.

[truthseeker2]

This is so cool.  Look at the post cards that can be bought.....
Clinton:      http://www.nixonlibraryfoundation.org/index.php?src=directory&view=products&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&xsearch_id=store_search&xsearch%5B0%5D=at+Nixon%5C%27s+Funeral&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&refno=826&srctype=products_detail
Billy Graham:        http://www.nixonlibraryfoundation.org/index.php?src=directory&view=products&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&xsearch_id=store_search&xsearch%5B0%5D=at+Nixon%5C%27s+Funeral&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&refno=823&srctype=products_detail

It would be kind of hard to take the picture and be in it from a distance at the same time.

I still believe Kermit.

THANK YOU SAN - and you know why you believe me - because I'm TELLING THE TRUTH


from my own personal files

If I HAVE TO PULL OUT MORE PHOTOS of the President's Funeral I can.
BECAUSE I was there up close and personal!

Kermit you don' have to pull out any photos.  If certain people don't believe you than tough.  You have nothing to prove to them.  They are doing this to draw you out.

I know they want to discredit what I have told you so they can keep their game plan.

Why the need to have game going?  Why can't people just look at it and decide for themselves what they believe and respect others who may feel differently about it?

3 1/2 years, h#ll, I've been with this that long too and I didn't get invited to join any private sites.  Should my feelings be hurt? 

I have no issues with what you posted from that site.  I just can't stop thinking about those divers giving a thumbs down and the possiblity that someone's remains were in that cage.  Boggles the mind.

[snoopy]

Kermit please don't give out too much personal information.  We don't need to know.  I will say this.....my daddy was a personal guard to President Truman.  Only the best of the best serve in that capacity.