Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08

[Kermit]

Hi Kermit.

At my request ... Mr. Tamikosmom has dug a new pond at the back of the property.  It is heated and ... has room for Miss Piggy.

However ... there is a catch.  Prior to indulging ... you are required to share with the forum what you referred to last week in a post as "more information".

 

Janetl

I will. Be patient.

[SS]

Kermit - How do Beth and Dave feel about the situation involving the cage photographs?

[Kermit]

Kermit please don't give out too much personal information.  We don't need to know.  I will say this.....my daddy was a personal guard to President Truman.  Only the best of the best serve in that capacity.

What an honor!

[snoopy]

Thank you muffy, texasmom, San and Janet.  I was raised that your good name is everything.  That is why so many times I quoted Proverbs 22:1  A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver or gold. 

It means so much to me that I had it engraved on my daddys headstone along with loving daddy, husband, son and faithful servant of God.

If you don't have a good name then you have nothing.

I want the truth.

I want justice.

[Kermit]

Kermit - How do Beth and Dave feel about the situation involving the cage photographs?

If I do not have to, I don't want to get into what they feel, say etc.

[Keepthefaith]

Kermit - How do Beth and Dave feel about the situation involving the cage photographs?

If I do not have to, I don't want to get into what they feel, say etc.

Kermit.Do we have a definitive year that The VDS family arrived in Aruba,as well as what was the position Paulus was given upon his arrival and by whom?TIA

[San]

Thank you muffy, texasmom, San and Janet.  I was raised that your good name is everything.  That is why so many times I quoted Proverbs 22:1  A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver or gold. 

It means so much to me that I had it engraved on my daddys headstone along with loving daddy, husband, son and faithful servant of God.

If you don't have a good name then you have nothing.

I want the truth.

I want justice.

I love this line.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Thank you muffy, texasmom, San and Janet.  I was raised that your good name is everything.  That is why so many times I quoted Proverbs 22:1  A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver or gold. 

It means so much to me that I had it engraved on my daddys headstone along with loving daddy, husband, son and faithful servant of God.

If you don't have a good name then you have nothing.

I want the truth.

I want justice.

I was raised the same way, Snoopy.  I also want the truth & justice.  You're a good dawg.

[truthseeker2]

Kermit said:

Good observation!


Why would a professional go to some boat guys if he had evidence of a crime?
Answer: ohh, they were skeewerd for their life!
Question: Why then, knowing you are a professional, would you not seek the proper authorities in which you had access too?
Answer: ohh, I was so skeewered I was crying!
Question: Why isn't the focus on the trap where remains was found? Blue material, blue tarp and a skull!

Is it follow the money?

The bottom line of Aruba is about following the money and money laundering, mafia and all that.
But what you also have going on is the cover-up.

Exactly.  But, a cover up of this magnitude for this lengh of time should not be for Joran. Is Paulus that influential?  Taco says he is a simpleton.  hehe

What part would the kingpins have to play this?  The disappearance?  The cover-up?  Or both?

[texasmom]

You're welcome Snoopy.  And I believe as you do.

[Keepthefaith]

Another person we've been discussing is  Mr.Riverol.Worth more questions and,or discussion!

Who was the refinery sold to not long ago?

[truthseeker2]

Another person we've been discussing is  Mr.Riverol.Worth more questions and,or discussion!

Who was the refinery sold to not long ago?

A company from Brazil, wasn't it?  Petrobras.

[texasmom]

Kermit, a little snack to keep you going...  

[snoopy]

Tylergals theory has always haunted me that Natalee was taken to a part at the Holiday Inn, and a film was made.  Posner prolly wouldn't have been too happy if that was exposed.

And there was a post by "rubby" made on or around July 27th 2005 that said something to the affect "what is so important about a bloody shoe" that is always in the back of my mind. This poster said that a film was made of Natalee , and that Juron killed her during the making of that film.

[Tamikosmom]

Hi Kermit.

At my request ... Mr. Tamikosmom has dug a new pond at the back of the property.  It is heated and ... has room for Miss Piggy.

However ... there is a catch.  Prior to indulging ... you are required to share with the forum what you referred to last week in a post as "more information".

 

Janetl

I will. Be patient.

Kermit ... since when have you known me to be patient.

I want to proceed on a journey to expose the sham encompassing the Persistence undertaking  but ... all the roads go nowhere.

 

Janet

[San]

Tylergals theory has always haunted me that Natalee was taken to a part at the Holiday Inn, and a film was made.  Posner prolly wouldn't have been too happy if that was exposed.

And there was a post by "rubby" made on or around July 27th 2005 that said something to the affect "what is so important about a bloody shoe" that is always in the back of my mind. This poster said that a film was made of Natalee , and that Juron killed her during the making of that film.

Tyler always believed that Joran kicked her.

I agree about the film being made too.

[Kermit]

Kermit - How do Beth and Dave feel about the situation involving the cage photographs?

If I do not have to, I don't want to get into what they feel, say etc.

Kermit.Do we have a definitive year that The VDS family arrived in Aruba,as well as what was the position Paulus was given upon his arrival and by whom?TIA

1970s - Paulus went to University of Tiburg
He became an attorney and assisted citizens who had conflicts with gov't in Arnhem.
1973 - 1993 found against construction of a motorway that was to go partly over the van der sloot estate.
In 1978 his dad at the time worked at the social legal aid office in Arnhem
page 1 Joran's book

 In 1990 Paul van der Sloot was offered a job at the "Central Bureau of Legal and General Affairs on Aruba.



RVD, 20.12.2002

Meer informatie
Benoemingen Gemeenschappelijk Hof van Justitie van de Nederlandse Antillen en Aruba
Persbericht | 20-12-2002 | PDF document, 5 Kb

i cut the link in half so it would not blow the margins. you wanna see it, put it back together.
Translation:
The lord Mr. P.A.P.J. of of the ditch (50) is proposed for appointment to deputy member of the common Court of Justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. The lord of of the ditch is now operative as a principal private secretary at the Procurator-General of Aruba. The appointment discusses 1 January 2003 for a period of three years.

Paulus van der Sloot and Oduber both got their education at Tilburg University.

“ in 1990 Paul van der Sloot was offered a job at the "Central Bureau of Legal and General Affairs on Aruba.” (Chapter 1 of Joran's book: Island boy)


In Aruba Paulus goes to work as an attorney for the Government for 5 yrs for Aruba gov't as an attorney
PvdS when he worked at the GEA, reported to Director Hubert Maduro.

member of Aruba's Council of State Hubert Maduro

sometime during 1994 Paulus switches jobs

Lastly, it is believed that Paulus Van der Sloot participated on a panel which agreed to extradite two relatives of the Mansurs to the US under serious charges some years back
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivo rous_conservative/2005/06/joran_van_der_s.html

More and more the name Mansur turns up in money laundering cases. Alex and Eric Mansur were indicted in Puerto Rico in August 1994
http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?page=archives_tblick_aruba


1995 - Paulus became cabinets leader for the public ministry and gave classes of Administrative Law at the local university.

1996 Zwinkels is fired from the Attorney General job



1997-1997 - Zwinkels left after a 2 yr battle with the Aruban gov't (they accused him of stealing drug money)
van Daalen became procureur general of Aruba in 1997 after procureur general Jan van Zwinkels was fired in 1996 by Aruba

2003 – January 2 – Paulus starts his judge-in-training and was said to of heard some cases.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Another person we've been discussing is  Mr.Riverol.Worth more questions and,or discussion!

Who was the refinery sold to not long ago?

A company from Brazil, wasn't it?  Petrobras.

I thought that fell through or something...would have to research, again.....not happening tonight.

[Kermit]

Hi Kermit.

At my request ... Mr. Tamikosmom has dug a new pond at the back of the property.  It is heated and ... has room for Miss Piggy.

However ... there is a catch.  Prior to indulging ... you are required to share with the forum what you referred to last week in a post as "more information".

 

Janetl

I will. Be patient.

Kermit ... since when have you known me to be patient.

I want to proceed on a journey to expose the sham encompassing the Persistence undertaking  but ... all the roads go nowhere.

 

Janet

Hopefully it will make some progress soon.

[Kermit]

Kermit, a little snack to keep you going...  

yum ribbit.