Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08

[MumInOhio]

Regarding Backing up Posts...

I have expressed my concerns over Kermit's posts regarding Caps and the three ponds and also Clyde Burke.

The words "in Context" is what was posted.

I posted the link to the conversations about Clyde Burke and IIRC also the post...Interesting that only a couple of posters and guests followed the link and bothered to read the discussions.

So, since I have done my homework, and posted backup, I will continue to sit on the fence on all of this until I see absolute proof and not just bits and pieces that have been copied and pasted, which is what was in that post from mid-November.

And No...I am not going back to find backup for this post...It is in the Archives...And has already been posted!

[Blonde]

This is so cool.  Look at the post cards that can be bought.....
Clinton:      http://www.nixonlibraryfoundation.org/index.php?src=directory&view=products&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&xsearch_id=store_search&xsearch%5B0%5D=at+Nixon%5C%27s+Funeral&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&refno=826&srctype=products_detail
Billy Graham:        http://www.nixonlibraryfoundation.org/index.php?src=directory&view=products&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&xsearch_id=store_search&xsearch%5B0%5D=at+Nixon%5C%27s+Funeral&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&refno=823&srctype=products_detail

Sighhhhhhhhhhh   I know Kermit and I do see Kermit in thoes pictures ,the back of their head anyway.

Hotshot you know I love you both

[Blonde]

Tamikosmom
I save most of your posting because your much more organised then I am.  

[BUCKSHOT]

Janet - 2NJ was asking why Yapperz couldn't just share info out in the open and why SHE was asking me to give you her email addy. 

Klaas ... I am so troubled.

Yap ... has been a Monkey forever.  She has always been on the side of justice for Natalee Holloway.  Monkeys have upheld her in prayer at least a couple of times while she was enduring storms in his life.

What is happening???  There is something that I am not understanding.

Janet

Some people think they are special I guess and post in private forums.  People that have left here and only occasionally post at SM or have been banned here.  Now there is a new forum that I have heard Destiny and ******* are in charge of.  I can only guess that Yapperz is getting information in either a private forum or via email and she feels a need to disagree with Kermit.  Unfortunately for everyone who is disagreeing with Kermit, only Kermit has had the balls to post with backup. 

So my answer is, put up or shut up.  It's been 3 1/2 years and I for one are sick of secrets and secret forums.

Kermit, do you have a secret?
 

Just kidding. You have talked the talk, and walked the walk, in my book. Very insightful and credible information that you have shared with us. We have all worked so hard to piece things together. Your information is greatly appreciated. Thank you !!!

Yapperz...Get out a plate...Because you have just been served...
 

[klaasend]

Regarding Backing up Posts...

I have expressed my concerns over Kermit's posts regarding Caps and the three ponds and also Clyde Burke.

The words "in Context" is what was posted.

I posted the link to the conversations about Clyde Burke and IIRC also the post...Interesting that only a couple of posters and guests followed the link and bothered to read the discussions.

So, since I have done my homework, and posted backup, I will continue to sit on the fence on all of this until I see absolute proof and not just bits and pieces that have been copied and pasted, which is what was in that post from mid-November.

And No...I am not going back to find backup for this post...It is in the Archives...And has already been posted!

For the record, I like and believe that Caps is one of the good guys.  Just because I like backup doesn't mean I believe everything that is posted backup or not. 

[klaasend]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/6828/6/#jc_allComments

[klaasend]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_50493.php


Ramon Lee car sabotaged
13 Dec, 2008, 14:40 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - After parliamentarian Rudy Lampe has countless times has been the victim of sabotage to his car, died last night, the car of Ramon Lee Minister of Sports and Culture sabotaged. It consists of all four tires stabbed leak.
While Minister Lee at the opening of the exhibition'30 Aña retrospectivo "in the Cas di Cultura was, strangers have been pricked empty tires. When the minister, who again had burden of gout and is supported by a walking stick, wanted to go home, he came to the unpleasant surprise to it. The car of Lee had with the "Towing services" of the place transported. The reign person was outraged at the photographer that the unpleasant time for him on camera explained. In doing so, the photographer Lee broke even for offender

[klaasend]

http://acting411.blogspot.com/2008/11/lifetime-network-tv-movie-natalee.html

December 16, 2008


The Lifetime Network in association with Sony Pictures Television are currently in pre-production on the TV Movie "Natalee Holloway". Casting directors are now accepting photos and resumes.

*** Please submit photos and resumes by mail only. No phone calls or personal drop-offs ***

See the post titled Headshot and Resume Information regarding how to submit for acting roles.


Send photo and resume to:

Susan Bluestein Casting
Sunset/Gower Studios
1438 N. Gower St.
Bldg. 35, Ste. 156
Los Angees CA 90028


Production Company:

Sony Pictures Television
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232

Producers:

Robert M. Sertner - Executive Producer
Frank von Zerneck - Executive Producer

Director:

Mikael Salomon

Writer (Novel): Beth Holloway-Twitty

Filming Location:

Sony Studios
10202 W. Washington Blvd.
Culver City, CA 90232

Various on-location sets.


Cast:

TBA

Story:

The true story of high school senior Natalee Holloway and her disappearance in Aruba.

[Blue Moon]

Kermit~  You shouldn't have to prove who you are in real life for the sake of credibility. 

No I should not.

Maybe those women would like to come back and test my integrity.
I'm more then willing to help everyone understand EVERYTHING.

Kermit, you are ONE FINE Monkey/Frog.  I would think everyone would know that by now. I have always believed you (and that says alot because you never know who is posting what on a forum).  You don't have to prove a thing to me.  You spilled the proof, what more is there.  On to getting justice for Natalee and for Beth and Dave to have peace.

[SS]

SS...JMO, but I believe the trap is the diversion!  But what do I know...I think "Freddy" is not really Freddy!   

Do you think the cage is a diversion for the Manserat pond?  I don't know who Freddy is, but he is not a member of the Arambatzis family.

[MumInOhio]

Regarding Backing up Posts...

I have expressed my concerns over Kermit's posts regarding Caps and the three ponds and also Clyde Burke.

The words "in Context" is what was posted.

I posted the link to the conversations about Clyde Burke and IIRC also the post...Interesting that only a couple of posters and guests followed the link and bothered to read the discussions.

So, since I have done my homework, and posted backup, I will continue to sit on the fence on all of this until I see absolute proof and not just bits and pieces that have been copied and pasted, which is what was in that post from mid-November.

And No...I am not going back to find backup for this post...It is in the Archives...And has already been posted!

For the record, I like and believe that Caps is one of the good guys.  Just because I like backup doesn't mean I believe everything that is posted backup or not. 

Thanks klaas...That is exactly what I was trying to say...I have to check the backup on the backup...If it doesn't sit right or make sense to me I stay on the fence.

[Tamikosmom]

Tamikosmom
I save most of your posting because your much more organised then I am.  

Blonde

I am so thankful that my "quotes" are being saved and retrieved when the dialogue dictates.  Otherwise ... these words are just taking up space in my hardrive.

I am a true believer that the early "quotes" by the players in the Natalee Holloway case should not be forgotten.  Their words gives a great indication to who are the "good guys? and who are the "bad guys" in the name of justice for an eighteen year old American citizen.

Also ... Blonde ... I recognize how hard you work on the media and research threads.

Thank you.

Janet

 

[truthseeker2]

Truthseeker......Did you ever do any checking into the Lionstone Group, Miami? Business partners here in the US?

Thanks in Advance.

Yes, I have.  I was particularly interested in looking at where some of the officers of Lionstone also serve on the boards of other companies as well as what they did before joining Lionstone.  I have that at home...I'm working/lurking for the most part. 

I'll try to post about it later after I get home.

[MumInOhio]

SS...JMO, but I believe the trap is the diversion!  But what do I know...I think "Freddy" is not really Freddy!   

Do you think the cage is a diversion for the Manserat pond?  I don't know who Freddy is, but he is not a member of the Arambatzis family.

Heck I don't know SS...I am not sure anymore if it is even the Monserat pond!!!  Kyle posted co-ordinates for another and that Magazine had a pic of yet another...

All I see is that since the trap came up, we have posters snapping at each other and being downright mean...there is no in between, and it seems a lot of time no room for discussion. When there is any discussion it usually gets ugly.

You are either with us or against us. That is what I see as a "diversion".

[truthseeker2]

Heck I don't know SS...I am not sure anymore if it is even the Monserat pond!!!  Kyle posted co-ordinates for another and that Magazine had a pic of yet another...

All I see is that since the trap came up, we have posters snapping at each other and being downright mean...there is no in between, and it seems a lot of time no room for discussion. When there is any discussion it usually gets ugly.

You are either with us or against us. That is what I see as a "diversion".

We have a winner!

[wreck]

I'm truly open to anyone's theory -- just back it up with well thought out reasoning. "Trust me - I know" doesn't cut it. My whole problem with Monserat pond is just that -- no one wants to provide any corroboration. Second of all, it requires me to trust an Aruban instead of an American.

[truthseeker2]

I'm truly open to anyone's theory -- just back it up with well thought out reasoning. "Trust me - I know" doesn't cut it. My whole problem with Monserat pond is just that -- no one wants to provide any corroboration. Second of all, it requires me to trust an Aruban instead of an American.

I think I get what you mean.  However, I'm not sure if I can always go by the theory it's best to always believe the American.  Julia come to mind.   

[MumInOhio]

Truthseeker......Did you ever do any checking into the Lionstone Group, Miami? Business partners here in the US?

Thanks in Advance.

Yes, I have.  I was particularly interested in looking at where some of the officers of Lionstone also serve on the boards of other companies as well as what they did before joining Lionstone.  I have that at home...I'm working/lurking for the most part. 

I'll try to post about it later after I get home.

Thanks Truthseeker...Anything on Flag Luxury Properties of New York, that you recall? That is who Lionstone built the Ritz in South Beach with. All sorts of companies associated with them...Conn. Chicago, New York, Las Vegas and they or people tied to them seem to have a lot to do with casinos here and in the Caribbean.  TIA

[wreck]

I'm truly open to anyone's theory -- just back it up with well thought out reasoning. "Trust me - I know" doesn't cut it. My whole problem with Monserat pond is just that -- no one wants to provide any corroboration. Second of all, it requires me to trust an Aruban instead of an American.

I think I get what you mean.  However, I'm not sure if I can always go by the theory it's best to always believe the American.  Julia come to mind.   

I'm not saying trust ALL Americans. I'm saying that even Americans in "support" of the pond theory are still relying on ARUBANS for their info.

[MumInOhio]

I'm truly open to anyone's theory -- just back it up with well thought out reasoning. "Trust me - I know" doesn't cut it. My whole problem with Monserat pond is just that -- no one wants to provide any corroboration. Second of all, it requires me to trust an Aruban instead of an American.

LOL...But Truthseeker is right...Julia and Charles...Eek!

My problem with the Monserat and the Matty apartments has been the timeline.

Now I am thinking about what Edward has been posting about the gardener. If that 2.45 or so spot is not in the timeline it opens up a lot more possibilities. Though I still like the Racquet Club area...But maybe that was a diversion...all those meetings at the Club etc.