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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08 (Read 221388 times)
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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December 17, 2008, 12:36:58 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on December 17, 2008, 12:17:49 PM
Dutch posters - need some help with this...who is this person
Pim Fortuin
? This was just posted on the front page of SM by someone in Aruba.
J.V wrote:
come to aruba all of you,we are waiting…greta nancy and of course mr Brinkman!! 2 ratingseeking BiTcHeS and and another gay dutchman against all antillians….remember pim fortuin?Keep talking shit….!! Keep talking!!
Dec 17, 10:43 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/09/dutch-official-hero-brinkman-says-aruban-natalee-holloway-investigators-corrupt-as-hell/
I term this person an on-line Gangster..
Threats??Can the FBI now investigate,as well as the Dutch due to it being threats against Greta and Brinkman??
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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Reply #861 on:
December 17, 2008, 12:37:27 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on December 17, 2008, 12:17:49 PM
Dutch posters - need some help with this...who is this person
Pim Fortuin
? This was just posted on the front page of SM by someone in Aruba.
J.V wrote:
come to aruba all of you,we are waiting…greta nancy and of course mr Brinkman!! 2 ratingseeking BiTcHeS and and another gay dutchman against all antillians….
remember pim fortuin?Keep talking shit
….!! Keep talking!!
Dec 17, 10:43 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/09/dutch-official-hero-brinkman-says-aruban-natalee-holloway-investigators-corrupt-as-hell/
Right, I saw that he was assassinated. I just feel as though this front page post is meant as a threat.
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MumInOhio
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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December 17, 2008, 12:38:40 PM »
Is it a threat? Translated Wiki...
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DPim%2BForuin%26hl%3Den
Thanks wreck!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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December 17, 2008, 12:38:52 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on December 17, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 17, 2008, 12:17:49 PM
Dutch posters - need some help with this...who is this person
Pim Fortuin
? This was just posted on the front page of SM by someone in Aruba.
J.V wrote:
come to aruba all of you,we are waiting…greta nancy and of course mr Brinkman!! 2 ratingseeking BiTcHeS and and another gay dutchman against all antillians….remember pim fortuin?Keep talking shit….!! Keep talking!!
Dec 17, 10:43 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/09/dutch-official-hero-brinkman-says-aruban-natalee-holloway-investigators-corrupt-as-hell/
I term this person an on-line Gangster..
Threats??Can the FBI now investigate,as well as the Dutch due to it being threats against Greta and Brinkman??
Works for ME!!!
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caesu
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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December 17, 2008, 12:41:00 PM »
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Gunman Kills Dutch Politician
Monday, May 06, 2002
HILVERSUM, Netherlands — Right-wing Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, whose anti-immigration party stunned the public with its strong showing in local elections last March, was shot six times and killed Monday as he left a radio interview.
Dutch television said the 54-year-old politician was shot in the head, neck and chest. The attack came nine days before national elections, and opinion polls had predicted Fortuyn would lead one of the largest parties in parliament.
Prime Minister Wim Kok confirmed Fortuyn's death.
"After this assassination, Pim Fortuyn is gone," Kok said in The Hague after breaking off a campaign engagement in the western city of Haarlem. "This is a deep tragedy. I am shocked. This is a deep tragedy for those close to him, for his loved ones and for our country and our democracy."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52047,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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Reply #865 on:
December 17, 2008, 12:41:48 PM »
Quote from: wreck on December 17, 2008, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on December 17, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 17, 2008, 12:17:49 PM
Dutch posters - need some help with this...who is this person
Pim Fortuin
? This was just posted on the front page of SM by someone in Aruba.
J.V wrote:
come to aruba all of you,we are waiting…greta nancy and of course mr Brinkman!! 2 ratingseeking BiTcHeS and and another gay dutchman against all antillians….remember pim fortuin?Keep talking shit….!! Keep talking!!
Dec 17, 10:43 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/09/dutch-official-hero-brinkman-says-aruban-natalee-holloway-investigators-corrupt-as-hell/
I term this person an on-line Gangster..
Threats??Can the FBI now investigate,as well as the Dutch due to it being threats against Greta and Brinkman??
Works for ME!!!
Me Too!
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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Reply #866 on:
December 17, 2008, 12:44:30 PM »
Quote from: hotping on December 17, 2008, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: wreck on December 17, 2008, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on December 17, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 17, 2008, 12:17:49 PM
Dutch posters - need some help with this...who is this person
Pim Fortuin
? This was just posted on the front page of SM by someone in Aruba.
J.V wrote:
come to aruba all of you,we are waiting…greta nancy and of course mr Brinkman!! 2 ratingseeking BiTcHeS and and another gay dutchman against all antillians….remember pim fortuin?Keep talking shit….!! Keep talking!!
Dec 17, 10:43 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/09/dutch-official-hero-brinkman-says-aruban-natalee-holloway-investigators-corrupt-as-hell/
I term this person an on-line Gangster..
Threats??Can the FBI now investigate,as well as the Dutch due to it being threats against Greta and Brinkman??
Works for ME!!!
Me Too!
Would it depend on where the IP address came from or the recieving end??Or.Does it matter?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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December 17, 2008, 12:44:39 PM »
I wonder what the posters intials stand for J.V......hmmmmm?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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December 17, 2008, 12:48:00 PM »
Quote from: hotping on December 17, 2008, 12:44:39 PM
I wonder what the posters intials stand for J.V......hmmmmm?
According to the email addy they used to post, NOT van der sloot. Of course the email addy could be totally fake too.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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December 17, 2008, 12:50:27 PM »
Quote from: caesu on December 17, 2008, 12:41:00 PM
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Gunman Kills Dutch Politician
Monday, May 06, 2002
HILVERSUM, Netherlands — Right-wing Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn, whose anti-immigration party stunned the public with its strong showing in local elections last March, was shot six times and killed Monday as he left a radio interview.
Dutch television said the 54-year-old politician was shot in the head, neck and chest. The attack came nine days before national elections, and opinion polls had predicted Fortuyn would lead one of the largest parties in parliament.
Prime Minister Wim Kok confirmed Fortuyn's death.
"After this assassination, Pim Fortuyn is gone," Kok said in The Hague after breaking off a campaign engagement in the western city of Haarlem. "This is a deep tragedy. I am shocked. This is a deep tragedy for those close to him, for his loved ones and for our country and our democracy."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52047,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn
Last Updated: Tuesday, 2 November, 2004, 11:41 GMT
Gunman kills Dutch film director
Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh, who made a controversial film about Islamic culture, has been stabbed and shot dead in Amsterdam, Dutch police say.
Police arrested a man in a nearby park after an exchange of gunfire. The man, aged 26, had joint Dutch and Moroccan nationality, they said.
Van Gogh, 47, had received death threats after his film Submission was shown on Dutch TV.
It portrayed violence against women in Islamic societies.
The film was made with liberal Dutch politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali refugee who fled an arranged marriage.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali has been under police protection since the film was aired. She has also received death threats and has renounced the Islamic faith.
Eyewitnesses quoted by Radio Netherlands said Van Gogh was attacked while cycling by a man dressed in a traditional Moroccan jallaba.
Both the suspect and a policeman suffered bullet wounds and are now in hospital.
Van Gogh - who was related to the famous Dutch painter - had also been making a film about
Pim Fortuyn
, the populist right-wing, anti-immigration politician assassinated in May 2002.
Film controversy
The film Submission told the story of a Muslim woman forced into an arranged marriage who is abused by her husband and raped by her uncle. It triggered an outcry from Dutch Muslims.
In one scene the film showed an actress in see-through garments with Koranic script written on her body, which also bore whip marks.
The Netherlands is home to nearly one million Muslims or 5.5% of the population.
One of the film maker's colleagues at the film production company said Van Gogh had received death threats "but he never took them quite seriously".
"He was a controversial figure and a champion of free speech," he told Reuters.
Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said "it is unacceptable if expressing your opinion would be the cause of this brutal murder".
"On a day like this we are reminded of the murder of Fortuyn. We cannot resign ourselves to such a climate, " he added.
And Queen Beatrix said she was shocked and appalled at the killing, AFP news agency reported.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3974179.stm
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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Quote from: klaasend on December 17, 2008, 12:48:00 PM
Quote from: hotping on December 17, 2008, 12:44:39 PM
I wonder what the posters intials stand for J.V......hmmmmm?
According to the email addy they used to post, NOT van der sloot. Of course the email addy could be totally fake too.
Wouldn't doubt it!Bringing the assasinated Dutchmen up is interesting!Think we all know how unstable people work..
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
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Quote from: hotping on December 17, 2008, 12:44:39 PM
I wonder what the posters intials stand for J.V......hmmmmm?
I'm thinking hotping. Just give me a minute it will come to me.
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on December 17, 2008, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: hotping on December 17, 2008, 12:44:39 PM
I wonder what the posters intials stand for J.V......hmmmmm?
I'm thinking hotping. Just give me a minute it will come to me.
Janet
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Klaas, perhaps you should call this to Red's attention and ask him if a copy should be sent to Greta, Nancy, Brinkman any one else threatened?
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Q: During your visit to the Antilles you walked around with two bodyguards.
HB: I was threatened by mail.
Q: By who?
HB: I think Antillians. I do not know the names. But the official agencies made a threat analysis. From that appeared that it was necessary to guard me. I would have been of course stupid to not listen to that as my fellow party member (Geert Wilders) is the most threatened politician of the Netherlands.
Q: How does that feel?
HB: It is difficult. I don't even want to think about having a live such as Geert Wilders. For me it was only twelve days.
Q: Were you frightened?
HB: I am never frightened.
http://krakenpost.nl/archief/Jan/0114.html
i think next month he will have bodygurads again.
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Quote from: Anna on December 17, 2008, 12:56:51 PM
Klaas, perhaps you should call this to Red's attention and ask him if a copy should be sent to Greta, Nancy, Brinkman any one else threatened?
As all threats should be takin seriously it would make for good TV for Greta!No???
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on December 17, 2008, 01:01:19 PM
Quote from: Anna on December 17, 2008, 12:56:51 PM
Klaas, perhaps you should call this to Red's attention and ask him if a copy should be sent to Greta, Nancy, Brinkman any one else threatened?
As all threats should be takin seriously it would make for good TV for Greta!No???
I believe that Greta and Nancy would like to know about this threat....As Well as all potential visitors to Aruba (if there are any)...
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on December 17, 2008, 01:01:19 PM
Quote from: Anna on December 17, 2008, 12:56:51 PM
Klaas, perhaps you should call this to Red's attention and ask him if a copy should be sent to Greta, Nancy, Brinkman any one else threatened?
As all threats should be takin seriously it would make for good TV for Greta!
No???
Yes!!!
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Quote from: caesu on December 17, 2008, 01:00:41 PM
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Q: During your visit to the Antilles you walked around with two bodyguards.
HB: I was threatened by mail.
Q: By who?
HB: I think Antillians. I do not know the names. But the official agencies made a threat analysis. From that appeared that it was necessary to guard me. I would have been of course stupid to not listen to that as my fellow party member (Geert Wilders) is the most threatened politician of the Netherlands.
Q: How does that feel?
HB: It is difficult. I don't even want to think about having a live such as Geert Wilders. For me it was only twelve days.
Q: Were you frightened?
HB: I am never frightened.
http://krakenpost.nl/archief/Jan/0114.html
i think next month he will have bodygurads again.
Looks like He needs bodyguards with threats being thrown around.....I wish Natalee would have had some....
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Happy Birthday Janet!!!! ( psst Wreck, try raisin bran!)
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=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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