Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08

[klaasend]

Klaas, perhaps you should call this to Red's attention and ask him if a copy should be sent to Greta, Nancy, Brinkman any one else threatened?

I will

[San]

[Keepthefaith]

Klaas, perhaps you should call this to Red's attention and ask him if a copy should be sent to Greta, Nancy, Brinkman any one else threatened?

As all threats should be takin seriously it would make for good TV for Greta! No???

Yes!!!

 

Janet

The lead in would be Fabulous!Two TV personalities,as well as Dutch politician being threatened for continued investigation of the Corruption and cover-up regarding Natalee Holloway!Can you say ratings..........

[Anna]

Unfortunately, the threat also seems aimed at Red as well for his article.

Not very big on freedom of speech are they?

[Keepthefaith]

Klaas, perhaps you should call this to Red's attention and ask him if a copy should be sent to Greta, Nancy, Brinkman any one else threatened?

As all threats should be takin seriously it would make for good TV for Greta! No???

Yes!!!

 

Janet

The lead in would be Fabulous!Two TV personalities,as well as Dutch politician being threatened for continued investigation of the Corruption and cover-up regarding Natalee Holloway!Can you say ratings..........

As everyone is family on the island it would almost certainly lead back to someone  in the investigation "IF" the threat came from an antillian..

[klaasend]

Unfortunately, the threat also seems aimed at Red as well for his article.

Not very big on freedom of speech are they?

No.  I've let Red and Dugga know.  I've also suggested the info be sent to Brinkman and Greta and our FBI.

[hotping]

Unfortunately, the threat also seems aimed at Red as well for his article.

Not very big on freedom of speech are they?

No.  I've let Red and Dugga know.  I've also suggested the info be sent to Brinkman and Greta and our FBI.

Thanks Klaas!

[wreck]

So ALL the RepAntillians are P.O.'ed???

[Keepthefaith]

See you in the rafters Buckshot..Some great posts yesterday..

[BUCKSHOT]

See you in the rafters Buckshot..Some great posts yesterday..

Thanks. Sad, but true.

[JodyO]

Just an interesting aside to the NH saga... I was always interested in Mike Posner, the owner of the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn and former bookie and mob member from the 'burbs of Chicago. Always curious about what, if any, role he might have played in the disappearance or disposal of NH since that was apparently the initial meeting place of JVDS and NH (and perhaps Paulus and NH from those stills from the observation tape at the BlackJack table.) Hubby is listening to Rush Limbaugh while I read on here, and just heard that the Gov. of Illinois, "Blago" who is under investigation was a former bookie from Chicago suburbs prior to entering politics. I've also wondered exactly what role politics might have played in the investigation on our end since the day that the Congressman from the AL district where NH's family lived met with the Aruba group who came here. He did a 180 as far as interest in the case after conferring with them. What could they have told him? Just another co-inky-dink I suppose.

[wreck]

Just an interesting aside to the NH saga... I was always interested in Mike Posner, the owner of the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn and former bookie and mob member from the 'burbs of Chicago. Always curious about what, if any, role he might have played in the disappearance or disposal of NH since that was apparently the initial meeting place of JVDS and NH (and perhaps Paulus and NH from those stills from the observation tape at the BlackJack table.) Hubby is listening to Rush Limbaugh while I read on here, and just heard that the Gov. of Illinois, "Blago" who is under investigation was a former bookie from Chicago suburbs prior to entering politics. I've also wondered exactly what role politics might have played in the investigation on our end since the day that the Congressman from the AL district where NH's family lived met with the Aruba group who came here. He did a 180 as far as interest in the case after conferring with them. What could they have told him? Just another co-inky-dink I suppose.

J-O,
Have you been reading "Kermit's" posts here lately about Posner?? It seems you may be on the mark!

[Keepthefaith]

Just an interesting aside to the NH saga... I was always interested in Mike Posner, the owner of the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn and former bookie and mob member from the 'burbs of Chicago. Always curious about what, if any, role he might have played in the disappearance or disposal of NH since that was apparently the initial meeting place of JVDS and NH (and perhaps Paulus and NH from those stills from the observation tape at the BlackJack table.) Hubby is listening to Rush Limbaugh while I read on here, and just heard that the Gov. of Illinois, "Blago" who is under investigation was a former bookie from Chicago suburbs prior to entering politics. I've also wondered exactly what role politics might have played in the investigation on our end since the day that the Congressman from the AL district where NH's family lived met with the Aruba group who came here. He did a 180 as far as interest in the case after conferring with them. What could they have told him? Just another co-inky-dink I suppose.

J-O,
Have you been reading "Kermit's" posts here lately about Posner?? It seems you may be on the mark!

Is Posner hiding in plain sight??

[Keepthefaith]

Just an interesting aside to the NH saga... I was always interested in Mike Posner, the owner of the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn and former bookie and mob member from the 'burbs of Chicago. Always curious about what, if any, role he might have played in the disappearance or disposal of NH since that was apparently the initial meeting place of JVDS and NH (and perhaps Paulus and NH from those stills from the observation tape at the BlackJack table.) Hubby is listening to Rush Limbaugh while I read on here, and just heard that the Gov. of Illinois, "Blago" who is under investigation was a former bookie from Chicago suburbs prior to entering politics. I've also wondered exactly what role politics might have played in the investigation on our end since the day that the Congressman from the AL district where NH's family lived met with the Aruba group who came here. He did a 180 as far as interest in the case after conferring with them. What could they have told him? Just another co-inky-dink I suppose.

J-O,
Have you been reading "Kermit's" posts here lately about Posner?? It seems you may be on the mark!

Is Posner hiding in plain sight??

Do we have a timeline of his where abouts during the first 10days?What really occured at the Hotel?Where are all the security tapes??

[Keepthefaith]

Just an interesting aside to the NH saga... I was always interested in Mike Posner, the owner of the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn and former bookie and mob member from the 'burbs of Chicago. Always curious about what, if any, role he might have played in the disappearance or disposal of NH since that was apparently the initial meeting place of JVDS and NH (and perhaps Paulus and NH from those stills from the observation tape at the BlackJack table.) Hubby is listening to Rush Limbaugh while I read on here, and just heard that the Gov. of Illinois, "Blago" who is under investigation was a former bookie from Chicago suburbs prior to entering politics. I've also wondered exactly what role politics might have played in the investigation on our end since the day that the Congressman from the AL district where NH's family lived met with the Aruba group who came here. He did a 180 as far as interest in the case after conferring with them. What could they have told him? Just another co-inky-dink I suppose.

J-O,
Have you been reading "Kermit's" posts here lately about Posner?? It seems you may be on the mark!

Is Posner hiding in plain sight??

Do we have a timeline of his where abouts during the first 10days?What really occured at the Hotel?Where are all the security tapes??

Does posner have some sick fetishes??One would believe the FBI,CIA,as well as the DEA is all over this character?Why is he still walking FREE??

[wreck]

Just an interesting aside to the NH saga... I was always interested in Mike Posner, the owner of the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn and former bookie and mob member from the 'burbs of Chicago. Always curious about what, if any, role he might have played in the disappearance or disposal of NH since that was apparently the initial meeting place of JVDS and NH (and perhaps Paulus and NH from those stills from the observation tape at the BlackJack table.) Hubby is listening to Rush Limbaugh while I read on here, and just heard that the Gov. of Illinois, "Blago" who is under investigation was a former bookie from Chicago suburbs prior to entering politics. I've also wondered exactly what role politics might have played in the investigation on our end since the day that the Congressman from the AL district where NH's family lived met with the Aruba group who came here. He did a 180 as far as interest in the case after conferring with them. What could they have told him? Just another co-inky-dink I suppose.

J-O,
Have you been reading "Kermit's" posts here lately about Posner?? It seems you may be on the mark!

Is Posner hiding in plain sight??

Do we have a timeline of his where abouts during the first 10days?What really occured at the Hotel?Where are all the security tapes??

Does posner have some sick fetishes??One would believe the FBI,CIA,as well as the DEA is all over this character?Why is he still walking FREE??

Why is a known felon from the U.S. allowed to own a caisino??? (don't answer, I know!! -- it's Aruba)

[Tamikosmom]

MICHAEL POSNER

The Island of Aruba did not anticipate the strength and determination of a mother by the name of Beth Holloway Twitty. By the time that Aruba realized that this amazing woman was not about to be silenced until her quest for answers regarding her precious daughter were answered … it was too late to turn back. It was no longer just about protecting Paulus and Joran in regards to their role in the events that encompass that fateful morning.  It was now about protecting those at all levels of the Aruban/Dutch administrations who were involved in the coverup … it was now about protecting the sons of the elite … it was now about protecting the judiciary and … it was now about the implications of exposing Michael Posner's little secrets in regards to organized crime … drugs … gambling … prostitution … pornography … money laundering.

What was the real Joran/Paulus/Posner connection?

Why was underage Joran permitted entry to the Excelsior Casino?

Why was underage Joran permitted to drink alcohol and gambling at the Excelsior Casino?

Why was underage Joran afforded a line of credit at the Excelsior Casino?

Why did Michael Posner hire American attorney Joe Tacopina to represent Joran?

Why did Michael Posner hire a private investigator to search for Natalee Holloway?

Why did Paulus not face any consequences for accompanying his underage son to a casino for the purpose of gambling and drinking?

Janet

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Aruban casino boss had ties to Chicago mob
Thursday, February 23, 2006 | 6:07 PM
Missing Alabama teen last seen at casino
By Chuck Goudie

February 23, 2006 (WLS) -- Authorities on the island of Aruba have not been able to solve the mystery of what happened to Alabama teenager Natalie Holloway. She disappeared while on a high school trip last spring. The ABC7 I-Team has learned new details about the casino where Holloway was last seen, an Aruba casino run by a convicted high-ranking Chicago mobster.

The unsolved disappearance of 18-year-old Natalie Holloway has commanded worldwide attention. It has been widely reported that the last place Holloway was known to be alive was the Excelsior casino connected to the Holiday Inn where she and her classmates were staying.
 
The I-Team has learned that the casino where Holloway was last seen is operated by Chicagoan Michael Posner. The intelligence report on Posner lists him as a prominent member of the Chicago outfit for more than 40 years.

According to federal law enforcement, Michael Posner's most recent mob assignment was boss of illegal rackets in the north suburbs. Posner was convicted in 1987 of threatening wayward gamblers with death and running prostitutes out of this Lake County strip club.

Through his Chicago lawyer, Posner maintains that he has been clean for 15 years and since 1998 has operated the Excelsior casino on the Caribbean resort on the island of Aruba.
 
Last May, honor student Natalie Holloway was staying at the resort on her high school graduation trip when she disappeared. One of the last places she was seen alive was in Posner's Excelsior casino.
 
In security tape obtained by ABC News, Holloway is seen at a table seated next to Joran van der Sloot, a local who is the prime suspect in the case.

Van der Slout admits having had a romantic encounter with Holloway, but in an exclusive interview to air Thursday night on Primetime, he says he is no criminal.

"I think I've been portrayed unfairly. I've been portrayed as a murderer and a rapist and everything that I'm not," van der Sloot said.

Casino boss Michael Posner denies that he knows van der Sloot and denies ever extending him casino credit.

Posner's lawyer Allan Ackerman says Posner was in Chicago when Holloway vanished and returned to Aruba the day after.
 
Now 64 years old, here's the intelligence report on Michael William Posner:

* aka Michael Rubins and Irving Goldstein.

* his family still resides in Riverwoods.
 
* his criminal profile lists involvement in illegal gambling, strip clubs and vending machines.

* criminal history dates to 1960 includes numerous arrests and successful tax and racketeering prosecutions.
 
Posner says it was he who voluntarily turned over this casino surveillance tape to Aruban authorities and that he is furious they have allowed ABC News to broadcast it.

Posner says he has paid the expenses for private investigators to come here and assist in the search for Holloway and according to his lawyer: "He has nothin' to do with nothing" in the murder case.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=investigative&id=3936339


DANA PRETZER
July 23, 2007

Dana: One thing that makes my listeners scratch their heads so to speak and wonder, myself included and we'll talk about it again, is the fact of the underage drinking and gambling that had been going on admittedly by young van der Sloot.  Was there ever any discussion or has there ever been any discussion at least of filing some charges as far as that goes?

Jossy:  No, there hasn't been any of that. The authorities have just (inaudible) it aside, they haven't paid any attention to it then and they're not paying any attention to it now and over the past 26 months.   I haven't seen anything in the direction of trying to make some kind of statement that this is not (inaudiable) at least make some sort of a statement that this is not (inaubible) because it is a known fact that as an underage he wasn't supposed to be in the casino, much less in the company of his father. He was there, there are video tapes to prove that and still the authorities haven't done anything with regard to that specific case.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2007/07/23/the-dana-pretzer-show-monday-july-23rd-2007-special-guests-larry-sinclair-jossy-mansur-ladonna-meredith-attorney-jay-paul-deratany/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Sept. 19th
updated 6:33 a.m. PT, Tues., Sept. 20, 2005

COPUS:  Well this guy has that casino.  He‘s alleged to have organized crime ties back to Chicago.  And you can say alleged, he‘s actually served time.  He‘s been convicted.  So he comes up into Aruba and is able to get a gambling casino.  At the same time, we‘re told that Joran and his dad both are gambling there.  It really makes you wonder how that‘s happening and how they got this line of credit. 

COSBY:  Yes.  And a big, big line of credit.  Beth, I know you‘ve actually been to the casino, right?  And Michael Posner threatened you, is that correct? 

HOLLOWAY TWITTY:  Well, there was a phone call made.  And it was just really having me refer to—you know, I‘d only mentioned the fact I had gotten from prosecuting attorney as far as the open line of credit, and that Joran is in his casino gambling, and I don‘t think there was ever a question that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot had been in that Excelsior Casino, and, particularly, on the night of the 29th where he and his father met Natalee. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9407728/


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for April 3
updated 8:24 a.m. PT, Tues., April. 4, 2006

JOHN Q. KELLY, HOLLOWAY FAMILY ATTORNEY: Well, if you look at the surveillance video footage, it appears that he’s the one sitting directly next to her and tries to engage her in conversation a couple of times.  And it’s sort of ironic that it’s his father who brought his underage son to a casino and left him there after he left, with access to his line of credit, to put this unfortunate chain of events in process.

You know, if Joran had never been there, not been allowed in there, because he’s underage and wasn’t accompanied by his father, the whole rest of the night wouldn’t have happened.

COSBY: You know, and, John, also, why would that be a significant—why is that in conflict to something else we’ve heard maybe from Paulus before?

KELLY: Well, he’s just claiming that, you know, he’s kept an eye on his son, you know, he’s kept him on a short leash, and, you know, his son is very well-behaved. And it turns out that he’s, you know, got him at casinos. If you’re under 18, you’re not legally even allowed in casinos, so his son was breaking the law with him enabling it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12150698/


Beth Holloway
LOVING NATALEE

Page 39:  Following our brief conversation, we all walk immediately to the fron desk to ask about someone named Joran who is staying in the hotel and plays in the casino here.  The Holiday Inn night manager, Brenda, knows him by name.  "Oh! yes ... yes ... Joran.  He gambles in the Excelsior Casino here.  He likes to prey on young female tourists.  Especially the blonds.   He is tall.  Good-looking boy.  Like a Dutch marine."   My mouth drops wide open.  "Where is he from?" I ask her.  She replies.  "He lives in Aruba."  I stutter.  "He's ... he's not a tourist just here for the summer?"  "Non, non," she says.

It takes a few moments to absorb this information.  The supposed tourist who befriended some of Natalee's classmates and who told them he was staying at their hotel lied tothem.  He isn't a tourist.  He isn't staying here.

[Tamikosmom]

Just an interesting aside to the NH saga... I was always interested in Mike Posner, the owner of the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn and former bookie and mob member from the 'burbs of Chicago. Always curious about what, if any, role he might have played in the disappearance or disposal of NH since that was apparently the initial meeting place of JVDS and NH (and perhaps Paulus and NH from those stills from the observation tape at the BlackJack table.) Hubby is listening to Rush Limbaugh while I read on here, and just heard that the Gov. of Illinois, "Blago" who is under investigation was a former bookie from Chicago suburbs prior to entering politics. I've also wondered exactly what role politics might have played in the investigation on our end since the day that the Congressman from the AL district where NH's family lived met with the Aruba group who came here. He did a 180 as far as interest in the case after conferring with them. What could they have told him? Just another co-inky-dink I suppose.

J-O,
Have you been reading "Kermit's" posts here lately about Posner?? It seems you may be on the mark!

Is Posner hiding in plain sight??

Do we have a timeline of his where abouts during the first 10days?What really occured at the Hotel?Where are all the security tapes??

Does posner have some sick fetishes??One would believe the FBI,CIA,as well as the DEA is all over this character?Why is he still walking FREE??

Why is a known felon from the U.S. allowed to own a caisino??? (don't answer, I know!! -- it's Aruba)

Wreck ... Jossy Mansur also questioned "WHY?".

Jossy Mansur is Beth's hero and ... he is a hero to me .  This man loves Aruba with all his heart but ... he is not blind to the corruption that abounds and ... through the means of his publication as well as American/Canadian talk shows ... he has done his upmost to expose the corruption that has denied justice to an 18 year old American citizen.

Janet

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DIARIO Aruba
11/21/2005

ORANJESTAD (AAN) The case of Natalee is taking other unexpected twists and very negative ones that are going to tarnish Aruba’s image as a safe destination for tourists and investors.

Joe Mammana has a very impressive criminal past in the U.S. but for one reason or another he has found publicity with different cases which have set his image straight and in the case of Natalee, he is trying to find national attention in the US by using sensationalism via the American media.

The government of Aruba recently declared that they will not permit Joe Mammana to enter Aruba.

Related to his past and criminal record, the government took the decision via the Minister of Justice that they cannot let such a person enter Aruba and about this there was information circulating that this Joe person sent a threatening letter to those who were detained in Aruba related to the case of Natalee.

The government’s actions in this case were correct because they cannot let this type of person come to Aruba and believe that they can come do what they see fit on our island, and to boot, Mammana is one of those who is trying, body and soul, to organize an unjust and unjustifiable boycott against Aruba.

What is strange is that the government refuses to let this ex-criminal (Mammana)  enter Aruba, but on the other hand, permits another ex-criminal, Mike Posner who is going soon to the U.S. for cases of law violations, to be able to have a business in Aruba, and enter and leave Aruba whenever he wants.

To make matters worse, the person in question, Mike Posner, has been able to obtain a permit to operate a casino, where anyone who wants to have a casino in Aruba and the majority of other countries in the world have to have a clean criminal record.

Recently, this information has started to circulate in the U.S. as well, and seeing that it hasn’t been many days since via the American media false information was given that Aruba is a sort of den for criminals and even terrorists, the matter of the Aruba casino owner with a criminal past in the US, is going to help those who want to implement a total boycott against Aruba.

Wasn’t it in Mike Posner’s casino that the principal suspect in Natalee’s case, Joran van der Sloot, was sitting gambling, despite the fact that he was underage and that never should he have been permitted to enter the casino?

Some weeks back, other media in Aruba came out in vanguard of the ex-criminal Mike Posner and wrote and article that praised Mike Posner for his supposed achievements in Aruba and what interest they had with him, nobody knows.

Now that the government refuses an American ex-criminal entry to Aruba, the government has to justify the reason why until today they continue to permit a person with such a police record such as Mike Posner, can come to set up a business in Aruba, continue to operate his business in Aruba and come and go whenever he wants.

What sort of handling of Justice is there in Aruba and what impact will this case have in the US when the American media start to question the government of Aruba about this matter?

This matter is pending because there are more questionable things here and also the role that certain politicians in Aruba play and continue to play in this matter.

[translated by Getagrip]

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/11/aruban-casino-owner-with-criminal-past.html

[wreck]

Just an interesting aside to the NH saga... I was always interested in Mike Posner, the owner of the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn and former bookie and mob member from the 'burbs of Chicago. Always curious about what, if any, role he might have played in the disappearance or disposal of NH since that was apparently the initial meeting place of JVDS and NH (and perhaps Paulus and NH from those stills from the observation tape at the BlackJack table.) Hubby is listening to Rush Limbaugh while I read on here, and just heard that the Gov. of Illinois, "Blago" who is under investigation was a former bookie from Chicago suburbs prior to entering politics. I've also wondered exactly what role politics might have played in the investigation on our end since the day that the Congressman from the AL district where NH's family lived met with the Aruba group who came here. He did a 180 as far as interest in the case after conferring with them. What could they have told him? Just another co-inky-dink I suppose.

J-O,
Have you been reading "Kermit's" posts here lately about Posner?? It seems you may be on the mark!

Is Posner hiding in plain sight??

Do we have a timeline of his where abouts during the first 10days?What really occured at the Hotel?Where are all the security tapes??

Does posner have some sick fetishes??One would believe the FBI,CIA,as well as the DEA is all over this character?Why is he still walking FREE??

Why is a known felon from the U.S. allowed to own a caisino??? (don't answer, I know!! -- it's Aruba)

Wreck ... Jossy Mansur also questioned "WHY?".

Jossy Mansur is Beth's hero and ... he is a hero to me .  This man loves Aruba with all his heart but ... he is not blind to the corruption that abounds and ... through the means of his publication as well as American/Canadian talk shows ... he has done his upmost to expose the corruption that has denied justice to an 18 year old American citizen.

Janet

+++++++++++++++
 
DIARIO Aruba
11/21/2005

ORANJESTAD (AAN) The case of Natalee is taking other unexpected twists and very negative ones that are going to tarnish Aruba’s image as a safe destination for tourists and investors.

Joe Mammana has a very impressive criminal past in the U.S. but for one reason or another he has found publicity with different cases which have set his image straight and in the case of Natalee, he is trying to find national attention in the US by using sensationalism via the American media.

The government of Aruba recently declared that they will not permit Joe Mammana to enter Aruba.

Related to his past and criminal record, the government took the decision via the Minister of Justice that they cannot let such a person enter Aruba and about this there was information circulating that this Joe person sent a threatening letter to those who were detained in Aruba related to the case of Natalee.

The government’s actions in this case were correct because they cannot let this type of person come to Aruba and believe that they can come do what they see fit on our island, and to boot, Mammana is one of those who is trying, body and soul, to organize an unjust and unjustifiable boycott against Aruba.

What is strange is that the government refuses to let this ex-criminal (Mammana)  enter Aruba, but on the other hand, permits another ex-criminal, Mike Posner who is going soon to the U.S. for cases of law violations, to be able to have a business in Aruba, and enter and leave Aruba whenever he wants.

To make matters worse, the person in question, Mike Posner, has been able to obtain a permit to operate a casino, where anyone who wants to have a casino in Aruba and the majority of other countries in the world have to have a clean criminal record.

Recently, this information has started to circulate in the U.S. as well, and seeing that it hasn’t been many days since via the American media false information was given that Aruba is a sort of den for criminals and even terrorists, the matter of the Aruba casino owner with a criminal past in the US, is going to help those who want to implement a total boycott against Aruba.

Wasn’t it in Mike Posner’s casino that the principal suspect in Natalee’s case, Joran van der Sloot, was sitting gambling, despite the fact that he was underage and that never should he have been permitted to enter the casino?

Some weeks back, other media in Aruba came out in vanguard of the ex-criminal Mike Posner and wrote and article that praised Mike Posner for his supposed achievements in Aruba and what interest they had with him, nobody knows.

Now that the government refuses an American ex-criminal entry to Aruba, the government has to justify the reason why until today they continue to permit a person with such a police record such as Mike Posner, can come to set up a business in Aruba, continue to operate his business in Aruba and come and go whenever he wants.

What sort of handling of Justice is there in Aruba and what impact will this case have in the US when the American media start to question the government of Aruba about this matter?

This matter is pending because there are more questionable things here and also the role that certain politicians in Aruba play and continue to play in this matter.

[translated by Getagrip]

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/11/aruban-casino-owner-with-criminal-past.html

I'll give Jossy "kudos" where they are due!

[Keepthefaith]

What was the real Joran/Paulus/Posner connection?

Why was underage Joran permitted entry to the Excelsior Casino?

Why was underage Joran permitted to drink alcohol and gambling at the Excelsior Casino?

Why was underage Joran afforded a line of credit at the Excelsior Casino?

Why did Michael Posner hire American attorney Joe Tacopina to represent Joran?

Why did Michael Posner hire a private investigator to search for Natalee Holloway?

Why did Paulus not face any consequences for accompanying his underage son to a casino for the purpose of gambling and drinking?

Janet

Great questions Janet?We as Monkey's need to shine a brighter light in this direction!

1.What does Jossy know about Posner and his lifestyle??