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Author Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #72  (Read 320713 times)
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« Reply #1600 on: December 12, 2008, 02:05:27 PM »

Let's think this through ... yes they will likely connect dirt, mulch, and/or sand back to the Anthony's yard, same for fibers from the trunk and house, and we have fingerprints and DNA too.

BUT something they found IMMEDIATELY cause LE to connect the remains with the Anthonys' house. Not just that they thought the body was Caylee's. An object. Something had to be there and it had to be glaringly obvious. The fiber evidence etc. will come later.

Yup. The immediately went to secure the house yesterday and to procure that search warrant. Immediately!

They found something.
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« Reply #1601 on: December 12, 2008, 02:05:30 PM »

I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.
Yes, she staged it, I'm sure of it, and no clothes on the remains, to make it look like a sexual predator.
I agree. Leaving the child with no clothes and duct taped is the sign of a staged abduction. I don't think you will find toys or anything "caring".

The problem is Casey is stupid.  The duct tape will hold the fingerprints of the person responsible and IMO it will be Casey and not some mysterious nanny.
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« Reply #1602 on: December 12, 2008, 02:05:41 PM »

still playing catch up had to log off early yesterday Caught NG and greta last night

Not sure if this has been brought up

IIRC someone was saying that LE was sawing down a  tree at the scene does anyone know why? or if thats true?

Am behind in reading, playing catch up.  Sorry if this has already been answered.  It IS confusing, all the info we've gotten so far, and some of it changing.  I did read that they were either sawing a part of a tree near where the remains were found, or branches of a tree.  And remember, there were 'scratches' of some sort on the trunk of Casey's car.  Could be that LE is thinking those scratches may have been made by the branches of a tree.  Maybe she backed the car into this place, and went a bit too close to that tree, scratching the car up. 
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« Reply #1603 on: December 12, 2008, 02:06:15 PM »

they might even find dog hairs that lead back to the anthonys dogs. Everything gets stuck to duck tape and staticky plastic garbage bags.
Very slick idea!

I agree, it's a very good point.  Dog hair, human hair...lots of stuff in 4 vacuums...big possibility.
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« Reply #1604 on: December 12, 2008, 02:06:25 PM »

Consider the amateurish method of disposal regarding Caylee Marie's remains ... I no longer believe that George or Lee were involved.  I believe that Casey acted alone.

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TAMIKOSMOM'S UPDATED THEORY IN A NUTSHELL

JUNE 16TH

1.  Caylee Marie meets her demise.
2.  Caylee Marie is put in a plastic bag.
3.  Caylee Marie is placed inside the trunk of Casey's vehicle.

JUNE 18TH
1.  Casey backs her vehicle up the driveway of the Anthony home.
2.  Casey removes Caylee Marie from inside the trunk of her vehicle.
3.  Casey takes Caylee Marie to the backyard.
4.  Casey discovers the shed locked.
5.  Casey borrows a shovel from the neighbour.
6.  Casey buries Caylee Marie near the playhouse.

JUNE (?)
1.  Casey retrieves Caylee from the backyard.
2.  Casey places Caylee inside the trunk of her vehicle.
3.  The compromised plastic bag leaks and permenates the trunk with decomposition fluid.
4.  Casey drives a short distance to a wooded area.
5.  Casey removes Caylee from the inside of her trunk.
6.  Casey places Caylee on the ground a short distance inside the wooded area.
7.  Casey covers the plastic bag holding Caylee with brush.

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TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: You know what? The bag was not put there later, Nancy. I was actually out there at that scene today. It wasn`t buried. It didn`t float up. You can see where the bag was actually laying on the ground. The weeds are very thick there so it didn`t float. It would have got caught up in something.

Whoever put that bag there pulled up alongside the road, threw the bag out there in that little weeded area. So there was no digging, there was no nothing. You can actually see in the grassy area where someone had sat there for a long period of time. So it was set there. It wasn`t buried. Trust me.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/11/ng.01.html
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« Reply #1605 on: December 12, 2008, 02:06:47 PM »

THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS
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« Reply #1606 on: December 12, 2008, 02:07:30 PM »

Don't slam me for this, but as to Casey having to be sedated.... she has not been convicted yet, and by law they have to do whatever is necessary to keep her healthy until the trial... even if they don't believe she deserves it. If they had refused to give her the sedative, her defense attorney would be screaming to the media about "cruel and unusual punishment" and it would have caused a big uproar. It's a technicality... and I'm sure they had no choice.
I've heard of an inmate trying to commit suicide right before he is scheduled to be executed... they discover him, take him to the hospital... and then execute him a few days later. They cannot sanction an inmate doing harm to him/herself, BEFORE the state gets the chance to do it legally.

Oh!  Well... dang it, that does make sense! 
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« Reply #1607 on: December 12, 2008, 02:07:48 PM »

Former attorney for George and Cindy Anthony thinks remains are those of Caylee Marie
1:50 p.m. Attorney Mark NeJame, who once represented Cindy and George Anthony, arrived at the Hopespring Drive address this afternoon to comment on the latest developments.

NeJame learned of the discovery of skeletal remains while in Puerto Rico on a one-day business trip. He was shocked when he heard the news.

"Sadly, it was what was expected," NeJame said. "I was hoping at some point that Caylee would be found."


Although the medical examiner has not determined the identity of the remains, NeJame believes they belong to the missing toddler.

"It's more than a hunch," he said. "I have had an opinion for a long time. I absolutely believe that it is [Caylee]."


NeJame resigned as the Anthonys' representative in November because they did not take his advice, he said.

"Everyone hoped that a miracle would occur and that Caylee would show up," NeJame said, adding that he felt more comfortable expressing his opinions about the girl's fate now that a body has been found.

Earlier today a man who identified himself only as a private investigator went inside the home. He entered through the garage door and appeared to be in the back yard near the shed. He did not appear to remove anything from the home.

When asked if he was working for the Anthony family, he declined comment.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story
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« Reply #1608 on: December 12, 2008, 02:08:51 PM »

Casey's reaction in jail could also be more staging ... playing the grieving mommy. It could be ...
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« Reply #1609 on: December 12, 2008, 02:09:01 PM »

I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.
Yes, she staged it, I'm sure of it, and no clothes on the remains, to make it look like a sexual predator.
I agree. Leaving the child with no clothes and duct taped is the sign of a staged abduction. I don't think you will find toys or anything "caring".

I don't think so. I think she dumped her like a bag of garbage and if her mouth was taped, it was to prevent her from screaming. JMO And you can tell that I think VERY little of Casey - no soul is how I would describe her, or sociopath with narcissistic tendencies.
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« Reply #1610 on: December 12, 2008, 02:09:02 PM »

Consider the amateurish method of disposal regarding Caylee Marie's remains ... I no longer believe that George or Lee were involved.  I believe that Casey acted alone.

Janet

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TAMIKOSMOM'S UPDATED THEORY IN A NUTSHELL

JUNE 16TH

1.  Caylee Marie meets her demise.
2.  Caylee Marie is put in a plastic bag.
3.  Caylee Marie is placed inside the trunk of Casey's vehicle.

JUNE 18TH
1.  Casey backs her vehicle up the driveway of the Anthony home.
2.  Casey removes Caylee Marie from inside the trunk of her vehicle.
3.  Casey takes Caylee Marie to the backyard.
4.  Casey discovers the shed locked.
5.  Casey borrows a shovel from the neighbour.
6.  Casey buries Caylee Marie near the playhouse.

JUNE (?)
1.  Casey retrieves Caylee from the backyard.
2.  Casey places Caylee inside the trunk of her vehicle.
3.  The compromised plastic bag leaks and permenates the trunk with decomposition fluid.
4.  Casey drives a short distance to a wooded area.
5.  Casey removes Caylee from the inside of her trunk.
6.  Casey places Caylee on the ground a short distance inside the wooded area.
7.  Casey covers the plastic bag holding Caylee with brush.

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TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: You know what? The bag was not put there later, Nancy. I was actually out there at that scene today. It wasn`t buried. It didn`t float up. You can see where the bag was actually laying on the ground. The weeds are very thick there so it didn`t float. It would have got caught up in something.

Whoever put that bag there pulled up alongside the road, threw the bag out there in that little weeded area. So there was no digging, there was no nothing. You can actually see in the grassy area where someone had sat there for a long period of time. So it was set there. It wasn`t buried. Trust me.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/11/ng.01.html


I have to consider that George was a cop..
He knows how to set up another person to take the fall..
He very well could be the culprit.
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« Reply #1611 on: December 12, 2008, 02:09:08 PM »

I think she staged it to look like a sexual predator did it.
Yes, she staged it, I'm sure of it, and no clothes on the remains, to make it look like a sexual predator.
I agree. Leaving the child with no clothes and duct taped is the sign of a staged abduction. I don't think you will find toys or anything "caring".

The problem is Casey is stupid.  The duct tape will hold the fingerprints of the person responsible and IMO it will be Casey and not some mysterious nanny.
Yeah, throw out anything that makes sense!
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« Reply #1612 on: December 12, 2008, 02:09:41 PM »

Does anyone know an estimated date that this area (where the body was found) would have been covered in water?  Or do you think that water was already there, by the time the body was placed there?
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« Reply #1613 on: December 12, 2008, 02:09:52 PM »

Fox News just said they were taking addition photos in the back yard. They said it was like Paparatzi going on in the back yard.

I am thinking they found more than one thing that linked to that body. JMHO on that. There had to be more than just one thing since they have taken all this shit.
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« Reply #1614 on: December 12, 2008, 02:10:05 PM »

It just makes me sick to think that they are going to stand hard that Casey didn't do it...someone else did. 
Are the A's still set to go spread their lies on LK tonight?
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« Reply #1615 on: December 12, 2008, 02:10:13 PM »

I am going through and re-watching the video's from Jail

This One with Lee part two

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206946/index.html

comparing Casey's expressions and her tone of voice is so Obvious she changes persona - between Lee and her parents.

Casey shows herself stronger and more matter of fact while talking to Lee and at the same time she is more in control with her emotions. ( And does not Run her Mouth as she Does with Her Parents) Lee has more control over her and it is shown in these tapes.
Yet the faces she makes are almost as if she is " Playing Him"

The  other video of her and her Parents " Quote You have always Been the Protective Mommy" Cindy to Casey

http://www.wftv.com/video/18206542/index.html

Casey's Faces and Expressions are All Over the Place - the audio is mixed up off the exact Video. But if you watch KC talking about Caylee she keeps Raising her Eyebrows and making facial gestures that are almost clownish and or animated.

In the later end of the video - Casey and Cindy talk about Larry King Show.

Casey reminds Cindy that she can Defer Questions relative to the initial 911 Calls.

Who's on first in this Wack Job of a family?

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   2. Words do not match the body language. A person might nod their head while saying, "No."5
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« Reply #1616 on: December 12, 2008, 02:10:14 PM »

headline news just showed a picture of the bag and it looked like bedding or a pillow!!!

Eyewitness News has learned a vacuum cleaner and a pillow were among the items removed from the house. The pillow and vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and the vacuum could contain Caylee's hair and fibers and also any residue from any chemicals that might have been used. Investigators also removed pesticides and pool chemicals from the Anthonys' house, which is less than a half-mile from the discovery scene.


http://www.wftv.com/news/18264817/detail.html
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« Reply #1617 on: December 12, 2008, 02:10:35 PM »

Oh no I didn't mean the meater reader guy waited...sorry!  I meant the cops may have waited b4 announcing it until after they confirmed that Jose was granted the continuence...thus giving the prosecution as much time as they need.  If Jose had known this b4 court...he would not have waive her right to a speedy trial...

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Uhh  no I dont think so, it doesnt matter what Jose' was gonna do today, he would have been allowed more time after this hit the air anyway because this is a whole new ball game now...........and I doubt the LE would have allowed a body to lay out in the woods and evedence to be destroyed any longer than was neccesary........

Hi HigherHopes...I was just wondering if I did anything to offend you?  I am just a Grandma that has been following this case.  I don't post much but I read all of the posts and love this site.  I was just wondering why you answered my posts with "Uhh  no" each time and checking back you don't use this when replying to others?  If I asked a question that offended you, or if the question I asked was not asked in the correct manner or had already been asked...please accept my apologies.


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« Reply #1618 on: December 12, 2008, 02:10:53 PM »

THEY HAVE CAYLEE'S FINGER PRINTS


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« Reply #1619 on: December 12, 2008, 02:11:09 PM »

Former attorney for George and Cindy Anthony thinks remains are those of Caylee Marie
1:50 p.m. Attorney Mark NeJame, who once represented Cindy and George Anthony, arrived at the Hopespring Drive address this afternoon to comment on the latest developments.

NeJame learned of the discovery of skeletal remains while in Puerto Rico on a one-day business trip. He was shocked when he heard the news.

"Sadly, it was what was expected," NeJame said. "I was hoping at some point that Caylee would be found."


Although the medical examiner has not determined the identity of the remains, NeJame believes they belong to the missing toddler.

"It's more than a hunch," he said. "I have had an opinion for a long time. I absolutely believe that it is [Caylee]."


NeJame resigned as the Anthonys' representative in November because they did not take his advice, he said.

"Everyone hoped that a miracle would occur and that Caylee would show up," NeJame said, adding that he felt more comfortable expressing his opinions about the girl's fate now that a body has been found.

Earlier today a man who identified himself only as a private investigator went inside the home. He entered through the garage door and appeared to be in the back yard near the shed. He did not appear to remove anything from the home.

When asked if he was working for the Anthony family, he declined comment.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-121208,0,1812243.story

I wonder who sent him to see if the cops took whatever it was the Anthony's feared them finding?
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