Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #73

[cecilita]

Casey had alot of opportunities in life. She didn't have any obstacles to overcome like many girls her age. She could have left home if things were too much for her. She could have married Jesse, but oh wait, she messed around with someone else and blew that chance. She and Jesse, according to Richard Grund had another go at it in Novemeber 2007.  Didn't work, same reasons.
She just doesn't have any regard for anyone else. She lives in the moment and the hell with the consequences.

Yesterday I wanted to punch the screen of my Tv when I was watching dateline and i heard Jessy saying" I do not recognized the Casey is now in Tv" what? is not the same Casey lied to him about caylees paternity, is not the same Casey that cheating on him  or the girl left him after being a good man..? and when the interviewer asked Cindy why did Casey lied to the FBI? and she said the only time that Casey will lie is only if caylee is in danger...? so this is the reason that she said after 31 days that Casey was kidnapped

[klaasend]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8061343&version=12&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1



Authorities still searching Orlando crime scene 
 
Last Edited: Saturday, 13 Dec 2008, 11:13 AM EST 
Created: Friday, 12 Dec 2008, 2:00 PM EST 
 
ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) -- For a third day, authorities are searching the wooded area in Orlando where a child's skull was found in hopes of discovering more clues to solve the case of a missing girl.

Orange County Sheriff's officials say evidence is mounting that the skull belongs to toddler Caylee Anthony. Caylee's mother,
22-year-old Casey Anthony, reported the girl missing in July and was charged with first-degree murder before the remains were found.

A utility worker found the remains Thursday, about a half-mile from Anthony's home.

One of Anthony's attorneys said Friday that "anthropological measurements and hair color" of the remains matched Caylee.

The Orange County Medical Examiner's office and FBI forensics experts say it could be a week before conclusive DNA results are released.

An Orange County judge denied a motion to preserve and protect the body of a small child found in a wooded area of East Orange County on Thursday.

Meanwhile investigators continued to collect evidence at the scene where 24 hours before a utility worker had found a small skull.

In court Ninth Circuit Judge Stan Strickland based the ruling on the grounds that the body of the child has yet to be identified.

Shortly after Judge Strickland called to order the emergency hearing on the motion filed by Jose Baez, attorney for Casey Anthony, Baez deferred to a new member of the defense team, Linda Kenney-Baden.   

 

[Monken]

This is a bit OT, but I will take some license. Actually in the larger picture of life it might be spot on topic. What creates the mindset like Casey that would become so dissociative and uncaring? What makes one think that partying like a HO is more important than caring for a child?

I have recently provided many posts regarding the war on Christmas on the FP. The following one is especially offensive. The acceptance of porn as mainstream has created many issues with today's youth. See what Playboy thinks was acceptable and then covers their A$$ and apologizes. How much damage does this stuff do societally in the development of kids? Party like a rock star, party like a ho with no boundaries or rules.

How Offensive, Nothing Says Merry Christmas Like Playboy and a Nude Virgin Mary Cover Controversy

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/13/how-offensive-nothing-says-merry-christmas-like-playboy-and-a-nude-virgin-mary-cover-controversy/

Would be very interested in people's thoughts.

Red, there has been an ongoing war on Christmas & has become more pronounced over the past several years. Remember a few years ago when businesses stopped using Merry Christmas opting for Happy Holidays, instead! That made it all the way to my small town & my entire family was furious & openly protested some of the signs. Right now, we all have "WE SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS" bumpers stickers on our cars! I remember very well what Christmas was like when I was a child & it really hasn't been THAT long ago  Those Christmases were so special & have remained so throughout the years. Our Christmas traditions are being carried through the generations.   

Unfortunately, it's not just a war on Christmas, but a war on our dominant culture, all the things that our law and culture are based on, our Judeo-Christian heritage. When conservatives ceded our schools to the socialist teachers' unions, we've allowed our children to be brought up with no morals, no values, except for what parents teach in the home. And face it, many parents have never had the structure to pass on to their children, so now there is no one to teach them right from wrong. The situation becomes worse with each successive generation as more and more are amoral. Our jails are filled to capacity with criminals who have been taught that there are no rules except the ones they choose, or don't choose, to abide by. They are simply "housed" and most are convinced that they are being unfairly punished for being unfortunate enough to be caught by "the man" (the evil dominant culture of those dead white guys who founded this unfair country.)

I sooooo agree with you, JodyO!   

[ShariVari]

I did not think for a moment that Lee could be the father, or George, until I heard that Casey told friends that both had molested her.  Casey is a liar, but even a liar tells the truth sometimes.  I had to wonder if there was any truth to it or if she just wanted attention and sympathy.  If it is true, it seems that Baez would use that at trial.  How could he not use it unless Casey forbids him to.

Baez said "You will all understand when I give my opening statement"

Maybe we will.

Whoa. wonder if that statement will be sumthin like

Caylee Anthony's father is her uncle, Lee Anthony---


chilling

[Brandi]

Casey had alot of opportunities in life. She didn't have any obstacles to overcome like many girls her age. She could have left home if things were too much for her. She could have married Jesse, but oh wait, she messed around with someone else and blew that chance. She and Jesse, according to Richard Grund had another go at it in Novemeber 2007.  Didn't work, same reasons.
She just doesn't have any regard for anyone else. She lives in the moment and the hell with the consequences.

Yesterday I wanted to punch the screen of my Tv when I was watching dateline and i heard Jessy saying" I do not recognized the Casey is now in Tv" what? is not the same Casey lied to him about caylees paternity, is not the same Casey that cheating on him  or the girl left him after being a good man..? and when the interviewer asked Cindy why did Casey lied to the FBI? and she said the only time that Casey will lie is only if caylee is in danger...? so this is the reason that she said after 31 days that Casey was kidnapped

Celcilita: I agree. I am in the minority here, but there are too many things I have noticed about Jesse that I do not trust him 100% as many monkeys do.

Cheeky: Glad you liked, and you are very welcome!

[trimmonthelake]

Brandi, if you could and if you have time, would you decorate this monkey for Christmas please.  He looks out of the Christmas spirit.   

( http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/cheeky-xmas.gif )

THANK YOU !!!!

You look very nice. 

[cecilita]

I did not think for a moment that Lee could be the father, or George, until I heard that Casey told friends that both had molested her.  Casey is a liar, but even a liar tells the truth sometimes.  I had to wonder if there was any truth to it or if she just wanted attention and sympathy.  If it is true, it seems that Baez would use that at trial.  How could he not use it unless Casey forbids him to.

Baez said "You will all understand when I give my opening statement"

Maybe we will.

so LEE will leave the country to live close to the imaginary kidnappers in puerto rico.
Does Lee own his house?

Lee is a renter.

Thank you brandi...it is very strange that he having a lot of financial problems is renting a house he could live with the parents....maybe for some reason they did not want to be around the girls but anyqay he still leaving very close to the anthonys

[NO1ZMONKEY]

This is a bit OT, but I will take some license. Actually in the larger picture of life it might be spot on topic. What creates the mindset like Casey that would become so dissociative and uncaring? What makes one think that partying like a HO is more important than caring for a child?

I have recently provided many posts regarding the war on Christmas on the FP. The following one is especially offensive. The acceptance of porn as mainstream has created many issues with today's youth. See what Playboy thinks was acceptable and then covers their A$$ and apologizes. How much damage does this stuff do societally in the development of kids? Party like a rock star, party like a ho with no boundaries or rules.

How Offensive, Nothing Says Merry Christmas Like Playboy and a Nude Virgin Mary Cover Controversy

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/12/13/how-offensive-nothing-says-merry-christmas-like-playboy-and-a-nude-virgin-mary-cover-controversy/

Would be very interested in people's thoughts.

I saw a commercial the other day that completely shocked me at about 7:30pm for some jean company with people ripping their clothes off.  I haven't been shocked beyond the damn smiling bob guy, and some other lurid stuff but this commercial was over the top directed to youngins...

I will check the thread out.

I am the minority here I know on this, but I am a product of this sort of "stuff".  My neice who is 4, her favorite song is "Party Like a Rockstar".  The commercial I believe that Russ is refering to is the Levi's commercial, it did not bother me really....I watch the TV program "The Girls Next Door" which is about Heff's 3 girlfriends living in the Playboy mansion, I thought it was cute.  I DO NOT agree with the December cover nor do I read Playboy or Playgirl (which went bankrupt)  I am just saying though, that while I do think that Casey is a product of her environment, as am I, she had a break down in her family dynamic that played a dramatic role in all of this. I am expecting 2 children, and never could I fathom harming a bug let alone a human.
I do not believe Casey was ever really taught lying is bad, how could she when her role model within her family (the parents) were busy fighting and lying to one another?  Casey learned fast that being the drama queen got her the attention she longed for, most likely learned that from Cindy.  BOTH of them always have to be the center of attention, or in this sort of case "the victim".
I am 1 year older than Casey is, I have a Facebook and a MySpace, was chatting at age 11 in chat rooms.  The sales aproach to my age group was how to be famous.  Well, I think Casey got her wish, its outrageous that Caylee had to pay the cost.

Well put! i am your age, and i know your pulling your answers straight from your understanding of yourself. I grew up on the internet too...i always pretended to be my sisters age.. i was 11 saying i was 15. my sister was the one that when all out and assumed different identites...i bet anything casey was an aol whore...chatrooms, i.m.s. the works... before it was so easy to be someone else on the internet...make a profile..just use a new age,  take a little of your real life and add it on. i forgot what sight i had already seen where she was showing herself as a loving single mother...blah blah. i bet if you check xanga, cpixel, migente, or any other dating page thats a couple years old, you will find casey....now did you read earlier where i asked someone if they could see the resemblance of caseys yahoo account name its kaseyomarie..one of her close friends from high school that she may have been envious of her name is kiomarie..casey with a k? its just one of the billions of little pieces of this girls sociopathic life that we will disect.....

[KarmaRoundUp]

These gas cans stories are truly interesting.  Not only did she have Tony break the lock on the shed so they could drive up to suburban drive to put gas in her car (What guy lets his girlfriend do this?), but he picked her up at Amscott because he car was allegedly out of gas.  She text mailed someone that she ran out of gas two fridays in a row.  She asks Amy to buy a gas can at Target and didn't she buy one from someone else?  Then George says he got them back and on that day he either saw in the trunk as he says or didn't see into the trunk as he has also said.

Strange and perhaps she masked smells as you say.  Nothing else makes much sense because she certainly didn't use any gas to burn the body, burn the car, or burn anything else.  Fits her, since I think she is about as lazy as it gets.

Maybe Tony knows more than he says.  Maybe we haven't seen all his interviews yet.

But this was all between the 16th and 23rd so Caylee was in the trunk the whole time. Where did they put the gas cans? In the back seat? The car seat was back there too right?

We don't know how long she had gas cans in her car if she even ever had them.  You have to believe George and I am not sure I do.

If she got picked up on the 22nd or before by Tony so they could get the gas cans out of the shed and fill up her car I do believe that was when she pulled the bag out of the car and put it in the woods. I want to know exactly where on Suburban drive Tony said her car was at out of gas.  I can bet it was right where the body was found.

I don't remember reading that Tony picked her up and drove her to Surburban Drive?I thought Tony said he drove her to a neighboring subdivision?

[Wyks]

ok, I am offically creeped the hell out and I do not get that way easily.

Someone is extremely twisted.  That's putting it mildly.  It looks to me like the hands holding the dolls are those of a male. 

I have not looked at video, but, this doll looks like one of those sex dolls with that big mouth.......mio

that's exactly what I was thinking mio. 

[ShariVari]

I did not think for a moment that Lee could be the father, or George, until I heard that Casey told friends that both had molested her.  Casey is a liar, but even a liar tells the truth sometimes.  I had to wonder if there was any truth to it or if she just wanted attention and sympathy.  If it is true, it seems that Baez would use that at trial.  How could he not use it unless Casey forbids him to.

Baez said "You will all understand when I give my opening statement"

Maybe we will.

so LEE will leave the country to live close to the imaginary kidnappers in puerto rico.
Does Lee own his house?

Lee does NOT own the house he lives in.  I don't remember the name of the owners, it was a hispanic last name, not Anthony.  He lives in a rental.

[anothermonkey]

Does anyone remember the injuries Casey mentioned that "Zanny" sustained during the car wreck?  My mind is wandering and I thought about how there is a little bit of truth in what Casey says.  My fear is that she was actually describing Caylee's injuries.

Lisa

Wasn't one of them a concussion?

she said that caylee was in the car with the nanny

I don't recall that part? I'll have to go back and re-read Cindy's statement. I think had that been the case, Cindy would have been freaking out. Especially considering Zanny got hurt... (if one person in the car got hurt, you would almost jump to the conclusion that others got hurt as well. But Cindy didn't express any concern about that to LE when giving her statement, that I can remember).

[Brandi]

trimmonthelake:

I see you are using digger in your sig, so I resized the animated one for you if you'd like to use it!

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[Monken]

Casey had alot of opportunities in life. She didn't have any obstacles to overcome like many girls her age. She could have left home if things were too much for her. She could have married Jesse, but oh wait, she messed around with someone else and blew that chance. She and Jesse, according to Richard Grund had another go at it in Novemeber 2007.  Didn't work, same reasons.
She just doesn't have any regard for anyone else. She lives in the moment and the hell with the consequences.

Yesterday I wanted to punch the screen of my Tv when I was watching dateline and i heard Jessy saying" I do not recognized the Casey is now in Tv" what? is not the same Casey lied to him about caylees paternity, is not the same Casey that cheating on him  or the girl left him after being a good man..? and when the interviewer asked Cindy why did Casey lied to the FBI? and she said the only time that Casey will lie is only if caylee is in danger...? so this is the reason that she said after 31 days that Casey was kidnapped

I DID TOO, CECILITA!!! Casey didn't just change overnight, she was just really good at hiding her true nature regardless of what some so-called experts say! And she was a skilled lier even at her young 22 years of age, God only knows what she would have been capable of in the future! There was a guy on yesterday that kept on and on with Casey wasn't a good enough lier to be called a sociopath!!  Well, Gees, she fooled her family, her friends, her men & every one else around her! It only ended when "Thank God" LE became involved. Who else would you have to fool to be considered a skillful lier!   

[Tater]

There just has to be a reason that Cindy and Casey both wanted the real father's identity kept so secret.  I think that Cindy lied about that under oath at the hearing when she said she always thought it was Jesse Grund and later that Casey showed her an obit but she forgot the name of the father who died in a car crash.  Cindy would not forget that.

This case has shown us that in spite of her calls for Casey to "look at the camera so I can see your eyes," Cindy sometimes does not want to know the truth.  In fact, she will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid the truth even when she strongly suspects what it is. 

Maybe Cindy wonders if Lee is the father but does not want to know.  Why else would the denials not be coming from her and Casey and Lee?  I have heard of no denials at all about the fatherhood rumors.

I had an encounter on a chat session and someone that people seemed to believe was Cindy was posting.  Apparently she posted occasionally and was posting at that time.  I asked her the question and she called my a sick stupid child.  I asked her if she could at least answer the question and she refused.  That is the day I really got interested in that angle.

I was certain she was Cindy because she said some things she later said in a brief interview with reporters too.

There has never been a question posed and there has been no refutation whatsoever. 

Do you think possibly the A's stance is"Some questions dont even warrant an answer"?..You know,as in too stupid of a thought? I don't know but I was led to believe that paternity was determined before Lee was forced to give his DNA...I don't think this question has to be answered by anyone unless it is relevant to the case and so far LE doesn't seem to think it is.They haven't picked up Lee yet.. It is illegal,yes? If the Father is dead,he's dead and I don't see why his family members should be sought out at this juncture.They certainly can't love Caylee or gain anything by knowing.They couldn't even write a book because they know nothing....For what purpose should they be told? If the Father is just Joe Blow and is alive,it's obvious he isn't interested if he knows..I have my plate of crow ready in case I'm wrong but I just don't think Lee is the Father...jmo

[ShariVari]

I did not think for a moment that Lee could be the father, or George, until I heard that Casey told friends that both had molested her.  Casey is a liar, but even a liar tells the truth sometimes.  I had to wonder if there was any truth to it or if she just wanted attention and sympathy.  If it is true, it seems that Baez would use that at trial.  How could he not use it unless Casey forbids him to.

Baez said "You will all understand when I give my opening statement"

Maybe we will.

so LEE will leave the country to live close to the imaginary kidnappers in puerto rico.
Does Lee own his house?

Lee is a renter.

Thank you brandi...it is very strange that he having a lot of financial problems is renting a house he could live with the parents....maybe for some reason they did not want to be around the girls but anyqay he still leaving very close to the anthonys

hey I'm 24 and just wanted to say
I love my parents to death
and I've had financial troubles
but would NEVER EVER EVER EVER
move back in with my parents
NEVER.
I love them dearly, though.

[Russ]

Russ, I have thought about that remark by Baez many times.  What could make anyone understand a mother who does not report her child as missing for 31 days?  It is hard to imagine anything that would do that. 

But if he uses the abuse excuse, that Casey was molested, that her mom was domineering and threatening to take Caylee away, that she is bi-polor and cannot deal with reality, etc., some jurors may at least give her some sympathy.

I know that she felt trapped under Cindy's thumb and that she saw no way out.  Casey was "desperate" to get away from Cindy, imo, and she did not want Cindy to have the child. 

It may have been as simple as a pyschological tug-of-war or as complex as two people having mental and emotional instabilities, but something was very wrong in that relationship between Cindy and Casey and it cannot be sugarcoated.

I think his key word was "understand", but we can't confuse understanding with excusing.  If she was molested and carried a relationship of incest with Lee it would explain how she didn't finish school, didn't acknowledge and tell the truth on the actual pregnancy, and abandoned her dream job.  It would explain the slipperly slope to sociopathy with a marginal mind in a domineering framework when she became saddled with the burden of raising Caylee.  It also explains the strange hold she has over them even today.  If the parents found out when Jesse took the test that Lee was the father, then we know the real reason George moved out and filed for divorce and why Lee moved out.  It might explain how cell phone bills got paid when they ran 500 plus a month.   It would explain her resentment towards her mother and her feeling that her father was useless.

I posit that Lee was her first love, and that is why they had that special bond which was broken when it came to light that she was 8 months pregnant.  Her and Lee's relationship became estranged after that and Lee didn't come around if George was home once George came back.  It explains her complete lack of being able to develop, nurture, and exist in a normal relationship - when perhaps she compared them all to her first love and when that love was broken with Caylee's birth - however sick and unusual it was.  I think it explains her constant need for a backup guy(s) which can derive from a sense of abandonment.

It explains the utter useless continuation of falsehoods by the family and I am curious as to Nejame's peculiar remark that  (paraphrased) "Now that Caylee's body has been found, and her death is verified, much more disturbing information will be coming to light".  What does he know?

What does Annie know?

[Monken]

OKAY THE A'S ARE STARING ALREADY!!!

Statement just released by Todd Black!!!??? WTF???
If this is Caylee's remains it does not mean that Casey Anthony had anything to do with it!!!


OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cheeky monkey]

I think that if George was the father it would explain more than if Lee was.  It is such a different dynamic for the grandfather to be the father versus the brother close in age that she was seen high fiving.  To me it would be some explanation for her anger and her sense of entitilement.  It would also explain why, why, why she didn't just leave the baby w/ George and Cindy.

I just hope that if Lee is the father it doesn't provide an excuse for her.  Because even if George was the father, while that is not an excuse, it would be an explanation.  Lee, not so much.

[Monken]

OKAY THE A'S ARE STARING ALREADY!!!

Statement just released by Todd Black!!!??? WTF???
If this is Caylee's remains it does not mean that Casey Anthony had anything to do with it!!!


OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STARTING!!!! I meant STARTING!!!