Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 - 12/24/08

[Magnolia]

It helps me if I run it through the Pap translator and
then through the Portuguese to English.

Yes, that does help some.  Still, Dutch is much easier don't you think?

Dutch is much easier.  I think Pap is terrible because so many
languages are involved.  I always admired Getagrip!

[Hotshot]

I am bringing this forward:

    
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
« Reply #973 on: Today at 05:29:25 PM »
   
I just sat down and throughly read Kermits post.  Very disturbing.  I am going to ask a question and it may not be very popular.  Hotshot if you are reading would you try to answer this question for me?  Did hotshot say she personally knew John Silvetti?  Did hotshot put John in touch with Dave?  How was John S. have so much knowledge that he could observe and declare that there were no remains in the cage and it was a post office?  Is this where Caps got his info from on the cage being a post office?

Natalee cannot win for losing.  She is caught in a caught 22.  USA cannot help her and Aruba will not help her.

I know john only in speaking with him twice about the case.  No I did not get him in touch with Dave, Schafer did that i do believe.  Some of the Monkeys have all the right in believing what they want to believe, however, I refuse to believe that they are bad guys.  I have a theory, i have stated it, and i dont want to get into it again.  For people to pounce on kyle for something that wasnt even his job to do, is very poor.  I have explained that also.  I have talked with Kyle for quite some time now, and believe when he tells me that words were taken out of context.  i believe in Tim miller whole heartedly, and can't fathom him being involved with anyone who wouldnt want to find natalee.  Silvetti is now working on the gulf cost with Tim, are people going to say now that he is scanning for oil there too? We all have a reason for being here, and doing what we do, just because it doesn't fit in some peoples agendas, doesnt mean we are not here for natalee.  we wouldnt be here if we were not here for natalee.  Everything that pops up doesnt have to be a diversion.  I sent Caps out to find Silvetti, and I have said that before.  Why???  Caps needed help with the pond. I cant say for sure why Silvetti would call Tim a liability, but I am pretty sure Tim wanted to see for himself what was in the trap, as he didnt believe it wasn't a skull.......I dont think Tim got the chance to see for himself, and thats too bad.  i think that was a chance of a lifetime.  Mansure was on the boat, why?  I dont know, that what I was told by his dad.....He did NOT do the dive...
I am off to sleep now.  the new job has me wanting my pillow..GN all.

[texasmom]

I agree with Klaas, the Dutch articles are much easier to get translations for.  I usually use Google translate too.  

One problem I have with the Bondia articles is that I don't know if there's a way to grab the text from the articles (in the flipping book) that aren't included on the front page of the website.  I have been typing out and running through the translator the ones that I'm really interested in.  That's too much work for most of them.

[texasmom]

It helps me if I run it through the Pap translator and
then through the Portuguese to English.

Yes, that does help some.  Still, Dutch is much easier don't you think?

Dutch is much easier.  I think Pap is terrible because so many
languages are involved.  I always admired Getagrip!

Me too!  I miss the translations!

[San]

It helps me if I run it through the Pap translator and
then through the Portuguese to English.

Yes, that does help some.  Still, Dutch is much easier don't you think?

Dutch is much easier.  I think Pap is terrible because so many
languages are involved.  I always admired Getagrip!

Getagrip has a great sense of humor and she is so bright.

[Magnolia]

I am bringing this forward:

    
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
« Reply #973 on: Today at 05:29:25 PM »
   
I just sat down and throughly read Kermits post.  Very disturbing.  I am going to ask a question and it may not be very popular.  Hotshot if you are reading would you try to answer this question for me?  Did hotshot say she personally knew John Silvetti?  Did hotshot put John in touch with Dave?  How was John S. have so much knowledge that he could observe and declare that there were no remains in the cage and it was a post office?  Is this where Caps got his info from on the cage being a post office?

Natalee cannot win for losing.  She is caught in a caught 22.  USA cannot help her and Aruba will not help her.

I know john only in speaking with him twice about the case.  No I did not get him in touch with Dave, Schafer did that i do believe.  Some of the Monkeys have all the right in believing what they want to believe, however, I refuse to believe that they are bad guys.  I have a theory, i have stated it, and i dont want to get into it again.  For people to pounce on kyle for something that wasnt even his job to do, is very poor.  I have explained that also.  I have talked with Kyle for quite some time now, and believe when he tells me that words were taken out of context.  i believe in Tim miller whole heartedly, and can't fathom him being involved with anyone who wouldnt want to find natalee.  Silvetti is now working on the gulf cost with Tim, are people going to say now that he is scanning for oil there too? We all have a reason for being here, and doing what we do, just because it doesn't fit in some peoples agendas, doesnt mean we are not here for natalee.  we wouldnt be here if we were not here for natalee.  Everything that pops up doesnt have to be a diversion.  I sent Caps out to find Silvetti, and I have said that before.  Why???  Caps needed help with the pond. I cant say for sure why Silvetti would call Tim a liability, but I am pretty sure Tim wanted to see for himself what was in the trap, as he didnt believe it wasn't a skull.......I dont think Tim got the chance to see for himself, and thats too bad.  i think that was a chance of a lifetime.  Mansure was on the boat, why?  I dont know, that what I was told by his dad.....He did NOT do the dive...
I am off to sleep now.  the new job has me wanting my pillow..GN all.

What would it profit Kermit to quote Kyle out of context?

[Magnolia]

It helps me if I run it through the Pap translator and
then through the Portuguese to English.

Yes, that does help some.  Still, Dutch is much easier don't you think?

Dutch is much easier.  I think Pap is terrible because so many
languages are involved.  I always admired Getagrip!

Getagrip has a great sense of humor and she is so bright.

I agree, San.

[Blue Moon]

I am bringing this forward:

    
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 -
« Reply #973 on: Today at 05:29:25 PM »
   
I just sat down and throughly read Kermits post.  Very disturbing.  I am going to ask a question and it may not be very popular.  Hotshot if you are reading would you try to answer this question for me?  Did hotshot say she personally knew John Silvetti?  Did hotshot put John in touch with Dave?  How was John S. have so much knowledge that he could observe and declare that there were no remains in the cage and it was a post office?  Is this where Caps got his info from on the cage being a post office?

Natalee cannot win for losing.  She is caught in a caught 22.  USA cannot help her and Aruba will not help her.

I know john only in speaking with him twice about the case.  No I did not get him in touch with Dave, Schafer did that i do believe.  Some of the Monkeys have all the right in believing what they want to believe, however, I refuse to believe that they are bad guys.  I have a theory, i have stated it, and i dont want to get into it again.  For people to pounce on kyle for something that wasnt even his job to do, is very poor.  I have explained that also.  I have talked with Kyle for quite some time now, and believe when he tells me that words were taken out of context.  i believe in Tim miller whole heartedly, and can't fathom him being involved with anyone who wouldnt want to find natalee.  Silvetti is now working on the gulf cost with Tim, are people going to say now that he is scanning for oil there too? We all have a reason for being here, and doing what we do, just because it doesn't fit in some peoples agendas, doesnt mean we are not here for natalee.  we wouldnt be here if we were not here for natalee.  Everything that pops up doesnt have to be a diversion.  I sent Caps out to find Silvetti, and I have said that before.  Why???  Caps needed help with the pond. I cant say for sure why Silvetti would call Tim a liability, but I am pretty sure Tim wanted to see for himself what was in the trap, as he didnt believe it wasn't a skull.......I dont think Tim got the chance to see for himself, and thats too bad.  i think that was a chance of a lifetime.  Mansure was on the boat, why?  I dont know, that what I was told by his dad.....He did NOT do the dive...
I am off to sleep now.  the new job has me wanting my pillow..GN all.

thanks hotshot for responding.

[Tamikosmom]

I just thought you had a Translator from your computer?

Janet..

I don't think so.

Klaas?

Janet

For translating many languages (other than Pap) the Google translator is pretty darn good.  You can even translate the entire page.  Unfortunately, the only news publication in Aruba NOT in Pap is Amigoe. 

Google translator:

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

Thanks Klaas.

Janet

[Keepthefaith]

So what's your take HotShot.Just some boat guys in over their head?I've asked this before.If they were not briefed before going into
aruban waters their not very smart.JMOO.The problem with that is there business is about being in water!One would assume after speaking with Dave Holloway John silvetti would NEVER trust the ALE,but from Kyle's own words the is quite the contrary!Not Logical to me!"IF" she was in that cage?Again.We may never know.Why?It's all in Kyle's own words.He tell's the story..Correct me if i'm wrong.As well i've always appreciated your responses as well as honesty.We don't have to all agree but continue to seek JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!Still waiting on those witnesses..KEEPTHEFAITH

[Rob]

ooohhh cripes already - those WERE Kyle's own words. Let's knock it off already - this is getting to be a huge pain in the arse and I'm starting to get really pissed that someone here is impugning Kermit. Knock it off Kath.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Always1

Yes Natalee is a real person and the only reason I am here as Admin of SM is because I made a promise to do my best to find justice for HER.  I agreed to help Red with the site October 2005 after there was a problem with some of the Admin's and Mod's at the time.  Same kind of problems we had with some that have been banned from SM and have started an invite only site.

So please, no lectures.

I for one thank you for making that promise.  We would not be here because of that promise.

Thank you Klaasend for all your time and effort.  It is hard work and I don't know how you do it day in and day out.

 

[Keepthefaith]

ooohhh cripes already - those WERE Kyle's own words. Let's knock it off already - this is getting to be a huge pain in the arse and I'm starting to get really pissed that someone here is impugning Kermit. Knock it off Kath.

Rob.You are a Pirate of EPIC proportions.. You and Capt.Sparrow on the open seas..Great visual..

[Magnolia]

ooohhh cripes already - those WERE Kyle's own words. Let's knock it off already - this is getting to be a huge pain in the arse and I'm starting to get really pissed that someone here is impugning Kermit. Knock it off Kath.

Thank you, Rob.

[klaasend]

Here's the deal.  Neither Kyle or Capslock have been banned.  They are welcome to post rebuttles to anything Kermit is posting.  I'm all for hearing both sides of the story.  It's not like it's going to harm the investigation.  After this long I doubt anything can hurt the investigation.

[Tamikosmom]

So what's your take HotShot.Just some boat guys in over their head?I've asked this before.If they were not briefed before going into
aruban waters their not very smart.JMOO.The problem with that is there business is about being in water!One would assume after speaking with Dave Holloway John silvetti would NEVER trust the ALE,but from Kyle's own words the is quite the contrary!Not Logical to me!"IF" she was in that cage?Again.We may never know.Why?It's all in Kyle's own words.He tell's the story..Correct me if i'm wrong.As well i've always appreciated your responses as well as honesty.We don't have to all agree but continue to seek JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!Still waiting on those witnesses..KEEPTHEFAITH

The following words of Kyle kingman are not taken out of context.

I knew when this post was submitted to SM ... a public forum ... SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT and ... the search effort had yet to begin.  Logic dictated that a joint venture with the enemy to recover Natalee Holloway's remains could only be furthering the coverup agenda of Aruba.

Janet

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KYLE KINGMAN'S POSTS TO THE SCARED MONKEYS FORUM

oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #715 1/25 -
« Reply #103 on: January 26, 2008, 12:38:25 PM »

Thought you all may find this interesting if you're willing to accept it-

To date, the Aruban police and dive team has been a tremendous help.  They've honestly done a great job. Over the last month we've established a very good working relationship based on openness and trust.  Most of the relationship success was due to getting the media out of the way and working together shoulder to shoulder over time.  We've helped each other however and whenever we can.  They've treated us with decency and respect and we have treated them as friends and allies, which they are. Most of the police and divers are new since this case started and both eager and careful to do things right.  I wish we had a month ahead of the project just to establish the relationships and trust. I know many of you would likely doubt this view, but it's based on the experiences in the field of the entire search team. I too was extremely worried, paranoid, and suspecting in the beginning.  Now, it's clear we're all working towards a common goal."

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2539.msg332457;topicseen#msg332457

[BUCKSHOT]

Quote from: Kermit on Today at 03:19:47 PM
I hope the information helps in some way to bring Natalee home to her mother and father.
G_d bless you all.
G_d bless Natalee.

Are the missing o's a cryptic message?

[SS]

Quote from: Kermit on Today at 03:19:47 PM
I hope the information helps in some way to bring Natalee home to her mother and father.
G_d bless you all.
G_d bless Natalee.

Are the missing o's a cryptic message?

Good eyes!!!

[Rob]

Quote from: Kermit on Today at 03:19:47 PM
I hope the information helps in some way to bring Natalee home to her mother and father.
G_d bless you all.
G_d bless Natalee.

Are the missing o's a cryptic message?

some people don't spell the word God out completely... only certain people do that 

[snoopy]

Quote from: Kermit on Today at 03:19:47 PM
I hope the information helps in some way to bring Natalee home to her mother and father.
G_d bless you all.
G_d bless Natalee.

Are the missing o's a cryptic message?

I think he always spells God like that.  Don't know why.

It's all good.