Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 - 12/24/08

[Tamikosmom]

EDWIN COMEMENCIA

1.  Security Guards' Detainment
2.  Official Search.
3.  Mariott Pond Search.
4.  Duct Tape/Blond Hair Discovery
5.  Racquet Ball Club Pond Search.
6.  Landfill search
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1. SECURITY GUARDS DETAINMENT

Aruba's Government Asks for Help in Search
Tuesday, June 07, 2005

Aruban police in unmarked cars accompanied by FBI agents made a pre-dawn raid at 5 a.m. Sunday, rousting two suspects aged 28 and 30 from their beds.

An AP photographer watched as the rumpled men — one from the De Vuiyst housing project for poorer islanders and another from an average home in southeast San Nicolas — emerged without resistance, hands cuffed behind their backs.

Police searched the homes and emerged with what looked like a metal safe deposit box and a garbage bag of clothing.

Police spokesman Edwin Comemencia said that authorities had not ruled out the possibility that other people were involved. The two men in custody were not among three others described Saturday by police as "persons of interest."

"I think there are more suspects ... we're going to arrest more" people in connection with the case, Comemencia told FOX News on Monday.

Authorities declined to comment whether there was a relationship between the suspects and other three, earlier described as students — two Surinamese and a native of the Netherlands — who told police they dropped off Holloway at her hotel around 2 a.m. on May 30. Hotel employees, however, say that security cameras did not record her return.

Comemencia also said that he didn't believe Holloway ever returned to her hotel. "The investigation looks like, that night, she never returned to her hotel," Comemencia told FOX News.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158666,00.html


2.  OFFICIAL SEARCH

Aruban PM Seeks Answers
Saturday , June 11, 2005

Police and volunteer land searches continued Wednesday with no results, while water searches, also unsuccessful, had been suspended "at this time," police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159006,00.html


3.  MARRIOT POND SEARCH

Aruba Cops Search Dutch Suspect's Home
Wednesday, June 15, 2005

A couple of Holloway's family members arrived on the scene Tuesday afternoon as police cordoned off several streets in front of the Marriott and investigators descended upon the swampy terrain next door.

Asked why police searched the area, Comemencia replied, "We got some information we needed to check." He would not say if authorities were acting on what John said. He also declined to comment on whether any of the three young men still in custody had changed their versions of what happened the night the teen disappeared.

There is a small pond, perhaps four to six feet deep, in the underbrush that was being searched. A large fire truck pumper truck was parked on the road. Earlier, what appeared to be a generator was dropped off by a flatbed truck. Reporters said they saw the pond being slowly drained.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159601,00.html


Posted 6/14/2005 2:51 PM     Updated 6/15/2005 10:09 AM
Aruban police come up empty-handed in search for teen

Police converged on a mangrove swamp near the Marriott Tuesday, a secluded area behind the beach dotted with fishermen's huts, to search for Natalee Holloway after being told that the young men who were last seen with her had lied about where they dropped her off. Workers used a firetruck to drain a pond in the middle of the swamp.(Map: Inside Aruba)

"We didn't find anything," police spokesman Edwin Comemencia told the Associated Press. He said the search would not continue in the same area today but declined to say where police would go next.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-06-14-aruba-search_x.htm


4.  DUCT TAPE/BLOND HAIR DISCOVERY

Blond Hair On Tape Found In Aruba
DNA Testing To Be Done In The Netherlands, FBI Lab In Virginia
ORANJESTAD, Aruba, July 18, 2005

(AP) Investigators said Monday they will conduct DNA tests on blond hair attached to duct tape that was found along Aruba's coast to see if it came from Natalee Holloway in a possible break to the six-week-old mystery.

A park ranger found the duct tape while collecting trash Sunday on rocks at Boca Tortuga, an inlet near a series of caves on Aruba's northeast coast, said National Park Ranger Service spokeswoman Dilma Arends.

Boca Tortuga is on the opposite side of Aruba from where the 18-year-old was last seen in public, and her father expressed little hope that the find would yield an important clue.

"We've had a lot of information that turned out false," David Holloway said as he prepared to leave Aruba and return home to Meridian, Miss.

The ranger who made the find, Mario Rasmijn, said there were several strands, each about 12 inches long, and that some were light blond and others were dark.

The hair will be sent to the Netherlands for DNA analysis, said police spokesman Edwin Comemencia. Aruba, a Dutch protectorate, doesn't have a lab to conduct the genetic testing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/18/world/main709813.shtml


5.  RACQUET CLUB POND SEARCH

Firefighters Drain Lake in Search for Natalee
Tuesday, July 26, 2005
Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba  —

Aruban firefighters were draining a lake Tuesday in the search for an Alabama teenager who vanished nearly two months ago while vacationing in the island.

Edwin Comemencia, a police spokesman, confirmed that the draining of the lake across from the Marriott Hotel was part of the investigation into Natalee Holloway's (search) disappearance but would not comment further. A jailed Dutch youth has said he was with Holloway in the area the night she disappeared.

The draining was expected to take up to 24 hours.

Earlier Tuesday, Holloway's stepfather, George Twitty (search), said two new witnesses had come forward with information about the night she disappeared.

One witness told investigators that he saw Joran van der Sloot (search), the 17-year-old who has been detained as the main suspect, driving to a nightclub across the road from the Marriott Hotel around 2:30 a.m. the night Holloway disappeared, Twitty said.

The witness said van der Sloot tried to hide his face with his hands as he drove to the Racquet Club with two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, Twitty said. The Kalpoe brothers were detained as suspects and later released.

The stepfather said the account places the three individuals near the hotel beach where van der Sloot says he left 18-year-old Holloway alone the last night she was seen in public.

"What's interesting is the time — 2:30 a.m. — when the three were supposedly on their way home," said Twitty, referring to their previous accounts to investigators.

The witness, a gardener whose name was not disclosed, gave his account to investigators on Friday, Twitty said.

The Kalpoe brothers first told police that they and van der Sloot dropped Holloway at her hotel around 2 a.m. the morning of May 30. Later, they said they had lied to protect their friend and that they had dropped the Dutch youth and American teen at a beach near the hotel.

A second new witness told a private investigator hired by Holloway's family that she saw van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers drive into the Racquet Club three times that same night. The woman, who lives near the nightclub, has not yet spoken with investigators, he said.

Aruban authorities did not comment on the stepfather's statements.

An attorney for van der Sloot, Richie Kock, said authorities had not told him about the new witnesses. Lawyers for the Kalpoe brothers were not immediately available for comment.

No one has been charged in the case, and van der Sloot is the only suspect still detained.

Holloway vanished after an evening of eating, drinking and dancing at a nightclub which she left with the three young men, hours before she was to catch a flight home to Mountain Brook, Ala., at the end of a graduation trip with 124 classmates.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,163750,00.html


6. LANDFILL SEARCH

Aruba Missing Teen
Posted: 8:38 AM Aug 1, 2005
Last Updated: 8:38 AM Aug 1, 2005
Reporter: Associated Press

A volunteer group searching for a missing Alabama teenager dug through a landfill in Aruba for a third day today (Sunday) but found no clues.

The search resumes tomorrow.

An Aruban man said he was at the landfill dropping off trash when he saw men dump and cover the body of a blonde female, two days after Natalee Holloway disappeared.

Police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said police searched the landfill after receiving the tip days after Holloway's disappearance May 30th, but found nothing.

He said the witness recently approached Holloway's family, who asked for another search.

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1756907.html


CNN Larry King Live
Latest in Natalee Holloway Investigation
Aired July 29, 2005 - 21:00   ET

TIM MILLER, DIRECTOR, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH:  I -- I don't think he has anything to gain, for number one. I think he truly does fear. I think, you know, he's stuck to a story that he -- you know, I talked to the police commissioner this morning. The police commissioner says, you know, he's not one of the guys you'd probably want to hire to go to work for you or something like that, but he's sticking to that story. And we've interviewed him. We sent the FBI out there, you know, and no matter what his mental condition is or his IQ is, a lot of times, it's these type of people that see something that help solve cases.

So anyhow, again, we've got a big task ahead of us. I think tomorrow also, we're going to be bringing in that gas detection device that we've got, to go back into the pond, and then we're using the ground penetration radar systems to be in another area. So we're going to be spread real thin tomorrow, but I think the area that we're focused on the very most, where we're going to have most of our people is at the dump.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/lkl.01.html

[bleachedblack]

Even if Paulus is in Bed with the Mafia that does business on the island wouldn't they have handle this themselves by now?As we know the foundation of this Island is Corruption,drugs,prostitution,as well as money laundering i don't think their to concerned with tourism.The only way that tourism will affect them is if the "REAL" worker's on the island start to lose their jobs in masses due to tourism dollars dropping off.The Mafia will not pay for this out of their own pocket..

You would think they would have a handle on it by now, wouldn't you?  It seems like the average Aruban has already been hurt by this, not to mention the laundering of money through the casinos.  Maybe the laundering business is still working just fine?

What a crappy place.  Too bad I had never considered going there before.  Kinda makes my boycott of that rock a zero effect.

As we know they launder money.Would it not be even more evident as tourism dollars drop off.You can't continue to operate when a business isn't making money?The mafia is greedy and we all know that.How much money are they willing to lose on behalf of Paulus??His fingerprints must be on every dirty contract.I hope Kermit has the ability to research how many contracts,as well as which ones!I continue to go back to where is Paulus interjected into this Business on the island with his Jobs on the island??

All very good questions.  If this coverup is a result of Paulus being able to bring others down if they let him and/or his son get convicted, then there has to be a very good paper trail some where.  Without a paper trail, they could say everything Paulus would say was a lie.

So who are these people?  Posner? Riveroll?  Both?  Or others?  And how many government officials are getting their cuts?

Who does Paulus bank with in Aruba,The Netherlands,as well as anywhere else in the world?This very well may lead right back to the Hague,as well as "The Queen".You think she's gonna let Aruba wash hundreds of millions of dollars and not get a cut.With the round table is Aruba just asking for Laundered money back?Is the Netherlands not following their under the table aggreement so to speak?Let's think BIG Truthseeker..This has got to be BIG as to not bring down a small few for a horrific crime...

One of his banks is C.M.B. Bank in Noord according to his June 23 2005 statement. But I imagine there are others.

>>>>SNIPPED

   To your question if I tell you all the things I did on that
Monday the 30th of May 2005, I can state the following. I went to work.
The exact time I cannot remember but I think it was approximately
08.00 hours. I can also remember that around 10.00 hours I went
to the C.M.B. bank. There were long cues at the bank so I left without
having made any transaction and went back to work. I left my workplace
at approximately 15.00 hours. I arrived at the bank at approximately 15.30.
 I had gone to the C.M.B. bank that is situated in Noord.

[bastibro]

[caesu]

OM receives new tips about Joran

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2862417/Justitie_krijgt_nieuwe_tips_over_Joran.html

OM on Aruba received recently new tips about Joran's involvement in the 'disappearance' of Natalee.
Mos says due the media attention they are receiving these tips.
no word on the nature of these tips to not interfere with the ongoing investigation.

decision to prosecute is now postponed to February 2009.
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continue contacting US / Dutch media, members of Dutch parliament, FBI, embassies, and more.
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/

[Keepthefaith]

OM receives new tips about Joran

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2862417/Justitie_krijgt_nieuwe_tips_over_Joran.html

OM on Aruba received recently new tips about Joran's involvement in the 'disappearance' of Natalee.
Mos says due the media attention they are receiving these tips.
no word on the nature of these tips to not interfere with the ongoing investigation.

decision to prosecute is now postponed to February 2009.
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continue contacting US / Dutch media, members of Dutch parliament, FBI, embassies, and more.
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/

How many more Tips do they need??We all know who is involved so what else do they need? Another Vacation to try to figure it out...

[Blue Moon]

PRICELESS.

[Tamikosmom]

A REMINDER!!!

The contents of the cage/trap which the Persistence discovered and ... John Silvetti turned over to the enemy in exchange for his self-serving interest must remain a focus..

Kyle Kingsman can attest to this but ... will he do the right thing and reveal to John Kelly ... Natalee's family and ... the FBI what he shared on a private forum.  Kyle's participation in the process has the ability to bring pressure on the ALE to what/who was in that cage/trap.

Janet

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KYLE KINGMAN'S POSTS TO A PRIVATE FORUM

Kyle: I have not given anything to the FBI since the pictures and statements from Dec 29th

Kyle: None of us gave any statements to the authorities after the 29th. It's possible John Silvetti did, because he was the only one conversing with them after Jan 7th.

Kyle: I've talked with Peter Shouten numerous times back in February. He hasn't seen anything but knows about the blue fabrics. DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal.

Kyle: In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric

Kyle: The Aruban divers were on the police boat, dove from their boat, and returned to their boat.

Kyle: They were immediately whisked away by the Aruban police and not seen of again by us on the 7th

Kyle: John stood back and waited and worked with the Aruban Polis

Kyle: John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word

Kyle: John didn't want Tim Miller on board the Persistence because he said Tim wasn't necessary any more and was a liability

Kyle: John told me then he didn't want to hear me ever mention the trap again.

Kyle: Schafer is sue crazy.

Kyle: I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He [John Silvetti] was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.

Kyle: We all know it wasn't a blouse, but I believe they were sent some piece of fabric other than the fabric found inside the trap.

Kyle: We're being fed misinformation to keep us searching and out of their way while they cover their asses, destroy evidence, cover their tracks, and keep us out at sea and away from the trap.

Kyle: I've talked with Peter Shouten numerous times back in February. He hasn't seen anything but knows about the blue fabrics. DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal.

Kyle: Louis is currently working with someone who I do not know to put together some documentary on the case, the way it was handled, and what happened during the search. I learned this from Tim T. yesterday. Louis was sold on the idea that it will make him a lot of money.

Kyle: The portion of the discolored blue fabric was presumably on the bottom of the fabric. In my opinion this discoloration is not another type of fabric, but rather biological staining or discoloration from biological growth caused from a high organic carbon content and decay. Basically, during decay a biological mat will form around the organics from remains. This is what I believe it is on the bottom of the fabric.

Kyle: John Silvetti told me today that he may be returning to Aruba very soon for a few days.

Kyle: I couldn't get the logs from the Persistence. All things "Holloway" were stripped from the boat once it got back to Louisiana

Kyle: It was confirmed by the FBI that they received a fabric sample send by Richardson and that it wasn't a match to Natalee's blouse. I think the video can prove or disprove whatever the FBI was sent was the same object or not. I strongly believe it's blue denim. Everyone I show thinks the same thing without being prompted (including senior ABC execs).

Klye: We're being fed misinformation to keep us searching and out of their way while they cover their asses, destroy evidence, cover their tracks, and keep us out at sea and away from the trap.

Kyle: neither Dave, Robin, or Beth has seen any of the ROV footage aside from what was broadcasted on Dateline or the pictures leaked from the FBI to Dave (and Robin H.). Beth has seen nothing in my knowledge.

Kyle: John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship.

Kyle: Notice the end of the skirt is an identical match to the 90 degree angle in the sand. I believe her left arm was outstretched with her legs slightly bent. I did not edit the legs. I believe the tarp was placed over her and tucked around her, or perhaps tied down. I believe there are several rocks laying on the sand which were placed on the tarp, or inside the tarp over her body which explains their unusual location. Either way, the proportions appear promising.

Kyle: I took the proportions of the body form from the head, to shoulder, to a 90 degree angle which I believed to be the hem line of Natalee's skirt. I then took those proportions and matched them to the photo of Natalee with what she was last seen wearing. The proportions matched within an inch from head, to shoulder, to skirt line. Based on this comparison and with what we believed we saw in the Dec 29th video, Tim Miller contacted the family and told them the 99.9% comment. I told Tim not to do anything until we have forensic results back after the site is processed. Jan 7th we sampled the contents and in my opinion we found the skirt under the sand along with the other items The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.

kyle: Richardson was onboard the Persistence several times and attended the meetings on the boat. You may see a glimpse of him on the Dateline video in the survey room along with Mos standing over my shoulder
 
 
KYLE KINGMAN'S POSTS TO THE SCARED MONKEYS FORUM

oceanexploration: "Thought you all may find this interesting if you're willing to accept it-To date, the Aruban police and dive team has been a tremendous help.  They've honestly done a great job. Over the last month we've established a very good working relationship based on openness and trust.  Most of the relationship success was due to getting the media out of the way and working together shoulder to shoulder over time.  We've helped each other however and whenever we can.  They've treated us with decency and respect and we have treated them as friends and allies, which they are. Most of the police and divers are new since this case started and both eager and careful to do things right.  I wish we had a month ahead of the project just to establish the relationships and trust. I know many of you would likely doubt this view, but it's based on the experiences in the field of the entire search team. I too was extremely worried, paranoid, and suspecting in the beginning.  Now, it's clear we're all working towards a common goal." 


oceanexploration: "We had little option other than to have the Aruban dive division recover the samples and bring them back under their care.  Remember we are Americans working in Aruban waters, subject to their laws, invitation, and blessing.  Our hands are tied for the most part. I personally was extremely uncomfortable with the chain of custody, being that we weren't a part of it, but I was powerless to do anything about it.    The samples were photographed in detail by one Aruban diver and the other two investigated the contents of the trap, the dimensions, the rigging, and what surrounded the trap.  From the video, it looked like they did a diligent and careful job with the samples and the underwater photography.  I don't know who has these pictures, but I must assume ALE."

 
BROTHER OF BETH HOLLOWAY'S POST TO THE SCARED MONKEYS FORUM

Private Eye: "If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. ... The effort was superb, but the game was fixed."

 
THE ROV IMAGES

Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
« Reply #408 on: November 24, 2008, 03:59:08 PM »
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4173.msg555618#msg555618
 
 
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
« Reply #410 on: November 24, 2008, 04:01:55 PM »
Photos given to the FBI sent to Dave and Robin posted on the internet are NOT the
photos posted above.  These were not given to the FBI until recently.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4173.msg555621#msg555621
 
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Kyle Kingman
Senior Geophysical Project Manager at Alpine Ocean Seismic Survey Inc.
Greater New York City Area

Current
Senior Geophysical Operations Manager at Alpine Ocean Seismic Survey Inc.
 
Past
Manager at Kingman Geophysical Solutions
 
Education
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey-New Brunswick
 
Industry
Oil & Energy
 
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/b/65/464

[klaasend]

OM receives new tips about Joran

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2862417/Justitie_krijgt_nieuwe_tips_over_Joran.html

OM on Aruba received recently new tips about Joran's involvement in the 'disappearance' of Natalee.
Mos says due the media attention they are receiving these tips.
no word on the nature of these tips to not interfere with the ongoing investigation.

decision to prosecute is now postponed to February 2009.
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continue contacting US / Dutch media, members of Dutch parliament, FBI, embassies, and more.
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/

New tips? 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Can anyone recall if it was Edwin 'Papito' Commencia who owned Papito's towing as the company that towed the VDS jeep? I seem to recall this as having been discussed, and again puts 'Papito' back in the picture.

I remember the discussion but do not recall it being confirmed. 

[truthseeker2]

OM receives new tips about Joran

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2862417/Justitie_krijgt_nieuwe_tips_over_Joran.html

OM on Aruba received recently new tips about Joran's involvement in the 'disappearance' of Natalee.
Mos says due the media attention they are receiving these tips.
no word on the nature of these tips to not interfere with the ongoing investigation.

decision to prosecute is now postponed to February 2009.
---------------------------------------


continue contacting US / Dutch media, members of Dutch parliament, FBI, embassies, and more.
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/

From reading the article do you get the impression that the 'new tips' are from Gteta's interview with Joran or from the information we have seen regarding the Monsaret pond area?

[bastibro]

The Public Prosecutor (OM) on Aruba has recently received new tips about possible involvement of Joran van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
 
Principal Officer Hans Mos has for that reason the decision on whether Van der Sloot may or may not be prosecuted further postponed to next year. Originally wanted justice around the Christmas already taken a decision on further prosecutions in the infamous disappearance case.



,, We get a result of ever-new media attention still inside tips. To investigate, we need more time. We think in February to have enough vision to be able to take a decision on further prosecution,''explains a spokesperson of the OM.

What the nature of the tips are wants the Public Ministry in the interest of the investigation will not be lost. Recently, new evidence emerged that statements about Joran gave to the police.

The Dutch investigation has recently witnessed a new hearing. This friend of Joran van der Sloot said that he made allusions to his involvement in Natalee's disappearance.

[caesu]

OM receives new tips about Joran

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2862417/Justitie_krijgt_nieuwe_tips_over_Joran.html

OM on Aruba received recently new tips about Joran's involvement in the 'disappearance' of Natalee.
Mos says due the media attention they are receiving these tips.
no word on the nature of these tips to not interfere with the ongoing investigation.

decision to prosecute is now postponed to February 2009.
---------------------------------------


continue contacting US / Dutch media, members of Dutch parliament, FBI, embassies, and more.
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/

From reading the article do you get the impression that the 'new tips' are from Gteta's interview with Joran or from the information we have seen regarding the Monsaret pond area?

i doesn't say anything specific about the 'new tips'.
just that the media attention led to these tips and the OM needs more time to check these.

it does mention the recent information from Greta's interview, a girlfriend of Joran being questioned in the Netherlands, two witnessess who gave the police a statement and the PRdV - Thai trafficking program.
but i doesn't say if that's related to these 'new tips'.

[caesu]

OM receives new tips about Joran

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2862417/Justitie_krijgt_nieuwe_tips_over_Joran.html

OM on Aruba received recently new tips about Joran's involvement in the 'disappearance' of Natalee.
Mos says due the media attention they are receiving these tips.
no word on the nature of these tips to not interfere with the ongoing investigation.

decision to prosecute is now postponed to February 2009.
---------------------------------------


continue contacting US / Dutch media, members of Dutch parliament, FBI, embassies, and more.
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/

From reading the article do you get the impression that the 'new tips' are from Gteta's interview with Joran or from the information we have seen regarding the Monsaret pond area?

i doesn't say anything specific about the 'new tips'.
just that the media attention led to these tips and the OM needs more time to check these.

it does mention the recent information from Greta's interview, a girlfriend of Joran being questioned in the Netherlands, two new witnessess who gave the police a statement and the PRdV - Thai trafficking program.
but i doesn't say if that's related to these 'new tips'.

correction

[truthseeker2]

The Public Prosecutor (OM) on Aruba has recently received new tips about possible involvement of Joran van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
 
Principal Officer Hans Mos has for that reason the decision on whether Van der Sloot may or may not be prosecuted further postponed to next year. Originally wanted justice around the Christmas already taken a decision on further prosecutions in the infamous disappearance case.



,, We get a result of ever-new media attention still inside tips. To investigate, we need more time. We think in February to have enough vision to be able to take a decision on further prosecution,''explains a spokesperson of the OM.

What the nature of the tips are wants the Public Ministry in the interest of the investigation will not be lost. Recently, new evidence emerged that statements about Joran gave to the police.

The Dutch investigation has recently witnessed a new hearing. This friend of Joran van der Sloot said that he made allusions to his involvement in Natalee's disappearance.

Thanks to you and caesu for posting this information.

From your translation it sounds as though they could be talking about the girl that was shown on the last DeVries show.

[bastibro]

The Public Prosecutor (OM) on Aruba has recently received new tips about possible involvement of Joran van der Sloot in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
 
Principal Officer Hans Mos has for that reason the decision on whether Van der Sloot may or may not be prosecuted further postponed to next year. Originally wanted justice around the Christmas already taken a decision on further prosecutions in the infamous disappearance case.



,, We get a result of ever-new media attention still inside tips. To investigate, we need more time. We think in February to have enough vision to be able to take a decision on further prosecution,''explains a spokesperson of the OM.

What the nature of the tips are wants the Public Ministry in the interest of the investigation will not be lost. Recently, new evidence emerged that statements about Joran gave to the police.

The Dutch investigation has recently witnessed a new hearing. This friend of Joran van der Sloot said that he made allusions to his involvement in Natalee's disappearance.

Thanks to you and caesu for posting this information.

From your translation it sounds as though they could be talking about the girl that was shown on the last DeVries show.

Yes, this is about this `Celes`

[hotping]

LMAO! Funny! Thanks I think We all need a good laugh these days! 

[hotping]

OM receives new tips about Joran

http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/2862417/Justitie_krijgt_nieuwe_tips_over_Joran.html

OM on Aruba received recently new tips about Joran's involvement in the 'disappearance' of Natalee.
Mos says due the media attention they are receiving these tips.
no word on the nature of these tips to not interfere with the ongoing investigation.

decision to prosecute is now postponed to February 2009.
---------------------------------------


continue contacting US / Dutch media, members of Dutch parliament, FBI, embassies, and more.
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/

I'm praying that these are new witnesses that will blow Aruba away and will get Natalee Home......

[caesu]

can't read where it exactly is about.

but it seems like a secretary for the Minister Plenipotentiary of Aruba is accusing someone in the Aruba House, The Hague of sexual harrasment.

http://awemainta.com

nothing in the Dutch press about this yet.

The Minister Plenipotentiary of Aruba (Dutch: Gevolmachtigd Minister van Aruba) represents the constituent country of Aruba in the Council of Ministers of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. The current Minister Plenipotentiary of Aruba is Frido Croes. The Minister Plenipotentiary and his cabinet are seated in the "Arubahuis" (Aruba House) in The Hague.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_Plenipotentiary_of_Aruba

Aruba House
http://www.arubahuis.nl/index.php

[BUCKSHOT]

There haven't been any announcements about Mos going anywhere.  Pieterz replaced Theresa Croes instead of Mos as we were told. 

Their revolving door of officials certainly keeps things in a constant state of confusion with no one being ultimately responsible for anything.

I agree. Part of the strategy, in my opinion.

[San]

There haven't been any announcements about Mos going anywhere.  Pieterz replaced Theresa Croes instead of Mos as we were told. 

Their revolving door of officials certainly keeps things in a constant state of confusion with no one being ultimately responsible for anything.

I agree. Part of the strategy, in my opinion.

I agree also.  Every move Aruba does is part of their plan.  If they see it isn't working they just switch gears and try something else.