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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 - 12/24/08 (Read 229607 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
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Quote from: wreck on December 23, 2008, 09:09:34 PM
Merry
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to all! I'm heading to Oklahoma, but will be checking in!
Have a safe trip, wreck. Stay safe!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
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Does anyone know where Jaime live(d)(s)?
Caceres Martinez Edgar V (doctor)
Caya Frere Johannes 17
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Tanki Leendert 158 B
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I know it is a little early to wish everyone a Merry Christmas but I also know people will be traveling tomorrow and I might not have a chance to say it to them.
I want to wish all Monkeys and their families a Merry Christmas.
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Quote from: wreck on December 23, 2008, 09:09:34 PM
Merry
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Travel safely, Wreck, and have fun when you get there.
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Quote from: truthseeker2 on December 23, 2008, 09:28:12 PM
Does anyone know where Jaime live(d)(s)?
Caceres Martinez Edgar V (doctor)
Caya Frere Johannes 17
Caceres Mosquera Nubia
Tanki Leendert 158 B
Carrasquilla Acuna Omar
Montanja 232
Carrasquilla Maria Del Pilar (sister?)
Sabana Liber 75 A
According to Jaime's statement in the case Sabana Liber is the correct address. I removed the address before posting the statement.
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Quote from: klaasend on December 23, 2008, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on December 23, 2008, 09:28:12 PM
Does anyone know where Jaime live(d)(s)?
Caceres Martinez Edgar V (doctor)
Caya Frere Johannes 17
Caceres Mosquera Nubia
Tanki Leendert 158 B
Carrasquilla Acuna Omar
Montanja 232
Carrasquilla Maria Del Pilar (sister?)
Sabana Liber 75 A
According to Jaime's statement in the case Sabana Liber is the correct address. I removed the address before posting the statement.
Thanks. Klaas.
I wonder of the one in Mantanja is a relative fo Jaime's? Has that ever been discussed before?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
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Quote from: San on December 23, 2008, 09:28:38 PM
I know it is a little early to wish everyone a Merry Christmas but I also know people will be traveling tomorrow and I might not have a chance to say it to them.
I want to wish all Monkeys and their families a Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas, San. I have never seen the word "Monkeys" on a
Nativity scene before.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
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Quote from: truthseeker2 on December 23, 2008, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 23, 2008, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on December 23, 2008, 09:28:12 PM
Does anyone know where Jaime live(d)(s)?
Caceres Martinez Edgar V (doctor)
Caya Frere Johannes 17
Caceres Mosquera Nubia
Tanki Leendert 158 B
Carrasquilla Acuna Omar
Montanja 232
Carrasquilla Maria Del Pilar (sister?)
Sabana Liber 75 A
According to Jaime's statement in the case Sabana Liber is the correct address. I removed the address before posting the statement.
Thanks. Klaas.
I wonder of the one in Mantanja is a relative fo Jaime's? Has that ever been discussed before?
Not that I know of but anything is possible. If I remember correctly, Jaime's dad was still in Columbia I think.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
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Quote from: Magnolia on December 23, 2008, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: San on December 23, 2008, 09:28:38 PM
I know it is a little early to wish everyone a Merry Christmas but I also know people will be traveling tomorrow and I might not have a chance to say it to them.
I want to wish all Monkeys and their families a Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas, San. I have never seen the word "Monkeys" on a
Nativity scene before.
Well there is a first for everything.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
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Quote from: klaasend on December 23, 2008, 09:55:05 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on December 23, 2008, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: klaasend on December 23, 2008, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on December 23, 2008, 09:28:12 PM
Does anyone know where Jaime live(d)(s)?
Caceres Martinez Edgar V (doctor)
Caya Frere Johannes 17
Caceres Mosquera Nubia
Tanki Leendert 158 B
Carrasquilla Acuna Omar
Montanja 232
Carrasquilla Maria Del Pilar (sister?)
Sabana Liber 75 A
According to Jaime's statement in the case Sabana Liber is the correct address. I removed the address before posting the statement.
Thanks. Klaas.
I wonder of the one in Mantanja is a relative fo Jaime's? Has that ever been discussed before?
Not that I know of but anything is possible. If I remember correctly, Jaime's dad was still in Columbia I think.
He said in his statement that on 5/30 he picked his father up from work at the Wyndham. Which is about the time that Joran said Guido arrived at the Wyndham and they took a "circular walk" and then went to the Aruba Grand.
Jaime:
"At approximately 23.00, I had to pick up my father where he works. My dad works at the Wyndham Hotel. After I picked up my father from work we drove home."
Joran:
"At approximately 22.30, Guido arrived at the Wyndham Casino. Guido and myself went for a circular walk. After that Guido and myself walked to his car. His car was in the parking lot of the Wyndham Hotel. After that we drove to the Aruba Grant so that I could cash in my chips at the cashier. "
I think Jaime may have more to do with this than we have been able to pin on him.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 -
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Wonder why I thought his father was still in Columbia. One of them, either Freddy or Jaime had a bad homelife (mother or father) and Joran said he felt sorry for him. I don't remember which one it was now. Maybe Jaime and his mom?
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Jaime and Freddy - Joran's best friends for life
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Quote from: klaasend on December 23, 2008, 10:14:16 PM
Wonder why I thought his father was still in Columbia. One of them, either Freddy or Jaime had a bad homelife (mother or father) and Joran said he felt sorry for him. I don't remember which one it was now. Maybe Jaime and his mom?
Jaime.
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Quote from: klaasend on December 23, 2008, 10:14:16 PM
Wonder why I thought his father was still in Columbia. One of them, either Freddy or Jaime had a bad homelife (mother or father) and Joran said he felt sorry for him. I don't remember which one it was now. Maybe Jaime and his mom?
I don't know which one that was. I see on Google Earth that Jaime lives about a mile from Joran and less than two miles from the Holiday Inn. By reading Jaime's statement he seems to indicate he did not know about Natalee's disappearance until 5/31.
I think it's interesting that on 5/30/05 between 10:30 and 11:00 pm you could have found these people at the Wyndham:
Joran
Guido
Andre
Jaime
Only Jaime was not gambling. He says he was there to pick up his father. Joran and Guido were walking around and then without telling any of the others, he and Guido leave and go to the Aruba Grand...for about 45 minutes, then they move to the Radisson.
So within 2 hours there is contact between:
Joran
Guido
Andre
Deepak
and possibly Jaime.
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Quote from: klaasend on December 23, 2008, 10:14:16 PM
Wonder why I thought his father was still in Columbia. One of them, either Freddy or Jaime had a bad homelife (mother or father) and Joran said he felt sorry for him. I don't remember which one it was now. Maybe Jaime and his mom?
One of Joran's friends mother died at a fairly young age, I'm thinking it was Jaime if I remember correctly.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Quote from: wreck on December 23, 2008, 09:09:34 PM
Merry
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Have a safe trip wreck, and
Merry
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1117.msg153794
From Joran's book;
- Jaime's mother died due to an operation for which she needed medications and as a result a blood clot formed and she died
- Joran liked Jaime's mom, always he could eat there, died before turning 50
- Joran says this was the first death he had ever experienced from close around him
- he even went to say goodbye with Anita in the intensive care and all three went to the funeral
- Jaime was 20 when it happened and lived with his mom, his life started to slip, poor grades, quit school, worked in a restaurant but failed there too. Now he lives with his married sister and has started school again
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: San on December 23, 2008, 09:28:38 PM
I know it is a little early to wish everyone a Merry Christmas but I also know people will be traveling tomorrow and I might not have a chance to say it to them.
I want to wish all Monkeys and their families a Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas San!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: truthseeker2 on December 23, 2008, 09:05:20 PM
Quote from: hotping on December 23, 2008, 07:23:37 PM
Thank You Janet for another Fantastic Post.....And Merry Christmas to You and Yours Also! We got an early Christmas Present this Year....a New Grandson who was born three weeks early and is doing fine and is Simply Gorgeous!
Congrats, hotping!!! What a wonderful Christmas gift for your family! Just this time last year our family was celebrating the birth and coming home for our twin grandsons. I know how happy you must be!!!!!!!
Thank You Truthseeker2....This is My Third Grandchild but they are All Unique and Special.....How wonderful to have two Bundles of Joy at the same time and right at Christmas.....Yes I'm A Very Happy Meemaw! Merry Christmas to You and Yours!
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Quote from: truthseeker2 on December 23, 2008, 09:06:39 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on December 23, 2008, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: hotping on December 23, 2008, 08:51:46 PM
Merry Christmas Magnolia! I'm almost up to My elbows in Cornbread...lol...I have Dressing to make and pies to bake......I'll probably be back later to see what's happening!
I love to make dressing.....it is always an adventure.
Same here! But, ya cain't have turkey without cornbread dressin'!
Ain't that the truth!
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