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« Reply #100 on: December 26, 2008, 10:12:11 PM »

My New Year's Resolutions are the same as last year and ... the year before.

1.  No more off topic.
2.  No more striving to be afforded that edit icon.
3.  Be more compromising.
4.  Refrain from posting quotes.
5.  Two hour daily limit on the SM Site.
6.  Be nice to trolls.
7.  Never bother Klaas or mods to edit my typos.
8.  Encourage to Dana to invite Steve Cohen and Joe Tacopina back to his show.

 

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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #101 on: December 26, 2008, 10:51:37 PM »

I read about the dive accident on an Aruba Bulletin board- not much info. but in looking at the pics, all I can say is I wouldn't want to count on any of the three guys on that boat to do CPR on me. Hell they don't look terribly upset-just throw the towel over her head- feet and fingers starting to show signs of cyanosis, wonder if they tried CPR? no police around ( would you think they would radio someone?). Maybe I am reading to much into the pics.....very sorry for the lady- looks like she is wearing an all inclusive band on her left wrist.

I agree bb, I felt very sorry for the lady.   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #102 on: December 26, 2008, 10:52:52 PM »

Janet, I would be honoured to fix your typos. 
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« Reply #103 on: December 26, 2008, 10:59:45 PM »

Janet, I would be honoured to fix your typos. 

Typos what typos 
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« Reply #104 on: December 26, 2008, 11:18:54 PM »

Janet, I would be honoured to fix your typos. 

Typos what typos 

San and Nut

Hugs!

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« Reply #105 on: December 26, 2008, 11:21:44 PM »

Janet, I would be honoured to fix your typos. 

Typos what typos 

San and Nut

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Have a good night Janet.
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« Reply #106 on: December 27, 2008, 12:03:40 AM »

12/27/2008 Awe Mainta Pg 2

http://awemainta.com/home/



Papiamentu translation:

fiscal is confisca curpa of muher canades cu owing to die during diving

police of oranjestad, tuesday 11.15 of afternoon, is achieve informacion cu one tourist will owing to hoga. owing to resulta cu one are of tourist owing to bay dive y during this, the tourist helen antoinette buchmir, casa cu hussey, of 54 year, owing to become bad, y owing to tell the diveinstructeur for lever cune. hour cu past owing to arrive in boat, past owing to cay in another y owing to cay in sea. the was bleed for nose. ambulance owing to come n’e sitio y dune first help, but not can owing to haci mucho. for 12.15 dr. van der broek owing to constata dead of the victima. the curpa wordo take in beslag for more investigacion. informacion adicional cu we of awemainta owing to achieve is, cu one lady tourist here n’e instant cu past owing to bay dive, the was cu his 2 yiunan. they owing to bay scuba cu the boat my amigo, cu is opera for casonan so. till now is tell cu past owing to hoga, but autopsia will determina kico owing to cause his dead exactly, cu is motibo cu ministerio publico owing to let confisca the cadaver.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #107 on: December 27, 2008, 01:55:53 AM »



Hoping and praying that the answers come soon! 
Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #108 on: December 27, 2008, 11:41:54 AM »

The world is a bigger nastier place then most can even understand.
The answers are not simple. So people better dig deeper in understanding to get to the bottom of WHY Natalee was disappeared. Why Paulus exists, untouched. Why Joran is such a lure, FREE,Untouched. Why the Dutch play the game of "Help" "Concern" Yet show passive resistance in doing ANYTHING of true value.
Natalee is far more then just a case of a girl who was gang raped and disposed of.
Good luck in 2009 in finding eye opening revelations. I doubt we will find the real answers without opening up Pandora's box. It is probably more info then most sit at home moms with bleeding hearts can comprehend. It is all relative in the end.
Natalee was a pawn in a very Big Game.
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« Reply #109 on: December 27, 2008, 12:21:33 PM »

Good Morning johan and Magnolia.

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #110 on: December 27, 2008, 01:55:13 PM »

The world is a bigger nastier place then most can even understand.
The answers are not simple. So people better dig deeper in understanding to get to the bottom of WHY Natalee was disappeared. Why Paulus exists, untouched. Why Joran is such a lure, FREE,Untouched. Why the Dutch play the game of "Help" "Concern" Yet show passive resistance in doing ANYTHING of true value.
Natalee is far more then just a case of a girl who was gang raped and disposed of.
Good luck in 2009 in finding eye opening revelations. I doubt we will find the real answers without opening up Pandora's box. It is probably more info then most sit at home moms with bleeding hearts can comprehend. It is all relative in the end.
Natalee was a pawn in a very Big Game.
jmho

I agree.
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« Reply #111 on: December 27, 2008, 01:59:16 PM »

The world is a bigger nastier place then most can even understand.

The answers are not simple. So people better dig deeper in understanding to get to the bottom of WHY Natalee was disappeared. Why Paulus exists, untouched. Why Joran is such a lure, FREE,Untouched. Why the Dutch play the game of "Help" "Concern" Yet show passive resistance in doing ANYTHING of true value.

Natalee is far more then just a case of a girl who was gang raped and disposed of.
Good luck in 2009 in finding eye opening revelations. I doubt we will find the real answers without opening up Pandora's box. It is probably more info then most sit at home moms with bleeding hearts can comprehend. It is all relative in the end.
Natalee was a pawn in a very Big Game.
jmho

 

This "sit at home mom with a bleeding heart" as well as others do comprehend perfectly the far reaching domino effect if Joran or Paulus were to be held accountability for their participation in the the events of the morning of May 30, 2005.

This is the reason that I believe that justice for Natalee Holloway is never going to prevail in either an Aruba or Dutch courtroom.

Accountability will extent from Joran and Paulus to the sons of the elite .... to those within the Aruban/Dutch administration who played a role in the coverup ... to the paid-off witnesses ... to the judiciary ... to the owners of the establishments involved in Aruba's underground economy (drugs, alcohol, pornography, sex trade, gambling, money laundering) ...

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #112 on: December 27, 2008, 02:01:38 PM »

Good Morning San and texasmom.

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« Reply #113 on: December 27, 2008, 02:04:52 PM »

Good Morning San and texasmom.

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Good Morning Tamikosmom.
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« Reply #114 on: December 27, 2008, 02:09:57 PM »

The world is a bigger nastier place then most can even understand.

The answers are not simple. So people better dig deeper in understanding to get to the bottom of WHY Natalee was disappeared. Why Paulus exists, untouched. Why Joran is such a lure, FREE,Untouched. Why the Dutch play the game of "Help" "Concern" Yet show passive resistance in doing ANYTHING of true value.

Natalee is far more then just a case of a girl who was gang raped and disposed of.
Good luck in 2009 in finding eye opening revelations. I doubt we will find the real answers without opening up Pandora's box. It is probably more info then most sit at home moms with bleeding hearts can comprehend. It is all relative in the end.
Natalee was a pawn in a very Big Game.
jmho

 

This "sit at home mom with a bleeding heart" as well as others do comprehend perfectly the far reaching domino effect if Joran or Paulus were to be held accountability for their participation in the the events of the morning of May 30, 2005.

This is the reason that I believe that justice for Natalee Holloway is never going to prevail in either an Aruba or Dutch courtroom.

Accountability will extent from Joran and Paulus to the sons of the elite .... to those within the Aruban/Dutch administration who played a role in the coverup ... to the paid-off witnesses ... to the judiciary ... to the owners of the establishments involved in Aruba's underground economy (drugs, alcohol, pornography, sex trade, gambling, money laundering) ...

Janet

I will take Justice anyway I can get it.  I have said this once so I will say it again.  It is time to start fighting dirty.  Aruba/Holland from day one has never fought a fair fight.  They caused the damage.  So now I say fight fire with fire and win at any cost.
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« Reply #115 on: December 27, 2008, 02:24:31 PM »

The world is a bigger nastier place then most can even understand.

The answers are not simple. So people better dig deeper in understanding to get to the bottom of WHY Natalee was disappeared. Why Paulus exists, untouched. Why Joran is such a lure, FREE,Untouched. Why the Dutch play the game of "Help" "Concern" Yet show passive resistance in doing ANYTHING of true value.

Natalee is far more then just a case of a girl who was gang raped and disposed of.
Good luck in 2009 in finding eye opening revelations. I doubt we will find the real answers without opening up Pandora's box. It is probably more info then most sit at home moms with bleeding hearts can comprehend. It is all relative in the end.
Natalee was a pawn in a very Big Game.
jmho

 

This "sit at home mom with a bleeding heart" as well as others do comprehend perfectly the far reaching domino effect if Joran or Paulus were to be held accountability for their participation in the the events of the morning of May 30, 2005.

This is the reason that I believe that justice for Natalee Holloway is never going to prevail in either an Aruba or Dutch courtroom.

Accountability will extent from Joran and Paulus to the sons of the elite .... to those within the Aruban/Dutch administration who played a role in the coverup ... to the paid-off witnesses ... to the judiciary ... to the owners of the establishments involved in Aruba's underground economy (drugs, alcohol, pornography, sex trade, gambling, money laundering) ...

Janet

I will take Justice anyway I can get it.  I have said this once so I will say it again.  It is time to start fighting dirty.  Aruba/Holland from day one has never fought a fair fight.  They caused the damage.  So now I say fight fire with fire and win at any cost.

I agree, San....but I don't know how to do that except hire a hit man and
I don't have a single hit man in my address book.
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« Reply #116 on: December 27, 2008, 02:34:03 PM »

The world is a bigger nastier place then most can even understand.

The answers are not simple. So people better dig deeper in understanding to get to the bottom of WHY Natalee was disappeared. Why Paulus exists, untouched. Why Joran is such a lure, FREE,Untouched. Why the Dutch play the game of "Help" "Concern" Yet show passive resistance in doing ANYTHING of true value.

Natalee is far more then just a case of a girl who was gang raped and disposed of.
Good luck in 2009 in finding eye opening revelations. I doubt we will find the real answers without opening up Pandora's box. It is probably more info then most sit at home moms with bleeding hearts can comprehend. It is all relative in the end.
Natalee was a pawn in a very Big Game.
jmho

 

This "sit at home mom with a bleeding heart" as well as others do comprehend perfectly the far reaching domino effect if Joran or Paulus were to be held accountability for their participation in the the events of the morning of May 30, 2005.

This is the reason that I believe that justice for Natalee Holloway is never going to prevail in either an Aruba or Dutch courtroom.

Accountability will extent from Joran and Paulus to the sons of the elite .... to those within the Aruban/Dutch administration who played a role in the coverup ... to the paid-off witnesses ... to the judiciary ... to the owners of the establishments involved in Aruba's underground economy (drugs, alcohol, pornography, sex trade, gambling, money laundering) ...

Janet

I will take Justice anyway I can get it.  I have said this once so I will say it again.  It is time to start fighting dirty.  Aruba/Holland from day one has never fought a fair fight.  They caused the damage.  So now I say fight fire with fire and win at any cost.

I agree, San....but I don't know how to do that except hire a hit man and
I don't have a single hit man in my address book.

Wait let me check to see if I have any in my address book. 
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« Reply #117 on: December 27, 2008, 02:36:51 PM »

Aruba had professional hitmen.  Some were law enforcement (Van der Straaten) and others were mafia (Posner).
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« Reply #118 on: December 27, 2008, 02:40:55 PM »

So besides dealing with the corrupt Aruban hitmen we had to deal with the corrupt American Traitors.
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« Reply #119 on: December 27, 2008, 02:41:21 PM »

The world is a bigger nastier place then most can even understand.

The answers are not simple. So people better dig deeper in understanding to get to the bottom of WHY Natalee was disappeared. Why Paulus exists, untouched. Why Joran is such a lure, FREE,Untouched. Why the Dutch play the game of "Help" "Concern" Yet show passive resistance in doing ANYTHING of true value.

Natalee is far more then just a case of a girl who was gang raped and disposed of.
Good luck in 2009 in finding eye opening revelations. I doubt we will find the real answers without opening up Pandora's box. It is probably more info then most sit at home moms with bleeding hearts can comprehend. It is all relative in the end.
Natalee was a pawn in a very Big Game.
jmho

 

This "sit at home mom with a bleeding heart" as well as others do comprehend perfectly the far reaching domino effect if Joran or Paulus were to be held accountability for their participation in the the events of the morning of May 30, 2005.

This is the reason that I believe that justice for Natalee Holloway is never going to prevail in either an Aruba or Dutch courtroom.

Accountability will extent from Joran and Paulus to the sons of the elite .... to those within the Aruban/Dutch administration who played a role in the coverup ... to the paid-off witnesses ... to the judiciary ... to the owners of the establishments involved in Aruba's underground economy (drugs, alcohol, pornography, sex trade, gambling, money laundering) ...

Janet

I will take Justice anyway I can get it.  I have said this once so I will say it again.  It is time to start fighting dirty.  Aruba/Holland from day one has never fought a fair fight.  They caused the damage.  So now I say fight fire with fire and win at any cost.

I agree, San....but I don't know how to do that except hire a hit man and
I don't have a single hit man in my address book.

Wait let me check to see if I have any in my address book. 

I believe America is giving Aruba,as well as The Netherlands every opportunity to do right which they won't due!In time i believe Paulus,as well as Joran's exit from this planet will happen when we least expect it!Maybe from some "Bad" coffee,car accident or something of that nature.Their time will come.Hopefully sooner then later.
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