Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #79

[Russ]

Trust me.....Casey will spent the better part of 30 years or more in prison, I dont doubt that at all, hell Charles Manson is still in prison and he never killed anybody, just told others to do the deed for him, but seriously, she aint getting out for a long long time!

Considering the the Charles Manson analogy, the overwhelming evidence skews the defense strategy in this case.  I smell plea.

[cheerio]

I just hope and pray that LE has something, anything, that definitely ties Casey to the crime scene and Caylee's body.  Like fingerprints, fibers, etc.  Otherwise, am thinking that the defense will likely just spin this forever, just as they did the DNA in the trunk.  Saying something like, 'yeah there's decomp in the trunk.  yeah it's the car casey was driving.  but prove that casey had anything to do with the decomp'.  they may just do the same with all that was found at the crime scene.  'yeah it is Caylee's body, yeah there's items from the house, etc... but prove that casey had anything to do with any of that.'  Can't you just hear Baez saying this?   Without fingerprints, fibers, SOMETHING that definitely connects Casey to Caylee's dead body, am thinking we'll all have whiplash from the spin from the defense.   

I wouldn't worry.  I think there is plenty.   

Seeing the stuffed animals today reminds me of when George and Cindy threw in the trash all those toys given a few months ago on the pretense they were used. That was always odd. I think they had plenty of opportunity to get rid of evidence. So whatever LE took was something they were not expecting at all. Maybe they were looking in Cindy's medicine cabinet not for something they gave Caylee, but some meds for Cindy. Anti-psychotic...?

[cheerio]

I just hope and pray that LE has something, anything, that definitely ties Casey to the crime scene and Caylee's body.  Like fingerprints, fibers, etc.  Otherwise, am thinking that the defense will likely just spin this forever, just as they did the DNA in the trunk.  Saying something like, 'yeah there's decomp in the trunk.  yeah it's the car casey was driving.  but prove that casey had anything to do with the decomp'.  they may just do the same with all that was found at the crime scene.  'yeah it is Caylee's body, yeah there's items from the house, etc... but prove that casey had anything to do with any of that.'  Can't you just hear Baez saying this?   Without fingerprints, fibers, SOMETHING that definitely connects Casey to Caylee's dead body, am thinking we'll all have whiplash from the spin from the defense.   

I wouldn't worry.  I think there is plenty.   

Seeing the stuffed animals today reminds me of when George and Cindy threw in the trash all those toys given a few months ago on the pretense they were used. That was always odd. I think they had plenty of opportunity to get rid of evidence. So whatever LE took was something they were not expecting at all. Maybe they were looking in Cindy's medicine cabinet not for something they gave Caylee, but some meds for Cindy. Anti-psychotic...?

Viagra....for Cindy I mean

[Anna]

I can see her getting sixty years to life and serving most of that.  Don't think she will be paroled as I don't think it is automatic in cases of homicide or even a lesser charge and think is done on a case by case basis.

Public outcry has been too great.  Judges and sheriffs are elected.  Casey is not a sympathetic figure and I don't think inspires much in most people who would sit on a jury or parole board. 

JMO but I think she is going down for a very, very long time.

[Russ]

It's not as simple as Baez deciding to take another route for a defense. Even if Casey doesn't take the stand, the whole Zanny thing will come in through George and Cindy and Lee, and Casey will still be measured against the lies she told. There will still be no apartment, no Zanny, and since Caylee is dead, no ridiculous reason not to tell it.

She can't put that toothpaste back in the tube once she decided to squeeze it out.

Finding Caylee was a Godsend for both the prosecution and for decency for that little girl.

Finding Caylee is a Godsend for all people concerned about "America's Girl".  She has the luxury as charged with first degree murder of creating any defense that punches holes in the prosecution's forensic and other evidence as well as mitigating damage to her own words.  She is not locked into her parents words, her lawyer's words, or any other person's words but her own.  She can come to trial and say she lied to protect this that and the other thing.  She can throw Lee, Cindy, or anybody under the bus, but she has to have reasonable doubt in her bank account.

She has nothing.  Baez has nothing.  I smell plea.

[crazybabyborg]

IMO, unless Baez leads them down the path of a plea, and thus admitting Caylee died at Casey's hand, Cindy will never believe Casey is guilty. If anyone gives her a thread to hang on to, like a defense strategy, she'll stay in denial.

[Brandi]

It's not as simple as Baez deciding to take another route for a defense. Even if Casey doesn't take the stand, the whole Zanny thing will come in through George and Cindy and Lee, and Casey will still be measured against the lies she told. There will still be no apartment, no Zanny, and since Caylee is dead, no ridiculous reason not to tell it.

She can't put that toothpaste back in the tube once she decided to squeeze it out.

Finding Caylee was a Godsend for both the prosecution and for decency for that little girl.

AMEN to that!

She now can be put to rest where a little child who has died should be.

This is why it has been so bittersweet.

We all are happy her remains have been found and can be provided a decent burial. She so deserves that!

Bless Caylee.

Whether finding her remains helps the prosecution or the defense, IMO has yet to be exposed.

I do hope with all my might and trust that it helps the prosecution.

I have felt from the onset that LE has done an excellent job with this case, and my opinion has not wavered.

[Anna]

Seeing the stuffed animals today reminds me of when George and Cindy threw in the trash all those toys given a few months ago on the pretense they were used. That was always odd. I think they had plenty of opportunity to get rid of evidence. So whatever LE took was something they were not expecting at all. Maybe they were looking in Cindy's medicine cabinet not for something they gave Caylee, but some meds for Cindy. Anti-psychotic...?

Maybe they threw away toys that belonged to Caylee and had traces of chloroform or something on them.

[crazybabyborg]

I'm going to catch Geraldo on the rerun. I missed it earlier! BBL!

[higherhopes]

Trust me.....Casey will spent the better part of 30 years or more in prison, I dont doubt that at all, hell Charles Manson is still in prison and he never killed anybody, just told others to do the deed for him, but seriously, she aint getting out for a long long time!

Considering the the Charles Manson analogy, the overwhelming evidence skews the defense strategy in this case.  I smell plea.

Well if she plea's it might make a little difference in time served, but not alot, and if the Procecution puts the death penalty back on the table, she can only plea down to Murder1.....................still looking at 30 years................

    Oh and lets not forget if the procecution can prove that the Tape was put on the Baby after death, thats a charge in and by itself, disigration of a corpse!

[Russ]

Russ stated:

Baez doesn't need the high priced forensic specialists and medical examiners.  They are killing him.  He doesn't care because he knows his defense has nothing to do with what is going on anyways.  They got a big surprise in store for us.

And I await with baited breath ... NOT  LOL

I know you are being sarcastic, Russ

I guarantee they do based on logic.  They have 3 witnesses on their list.  They have no defense.  The body being found makes it even more difficult.

She is going to plead guilty.

I have had just a "feeling" that Casey would do this since the remains were found.  No logical reason for my thinking it, just feel that this is what she is pondering. 

I think you may be right.  She is totally isolated and knows most of the world hates her, etc.  She has to know that no one is buying the zanny story and it might save her life.  I don't think they ever give the death penalty when they confess but I think she will still try the accident which won't fly either but she will at least try it.

Would be hard to admit to killing a child.

Baez has all the time in the world to do nothing but spew nonsense and absorb the 10 million dollar advertising windfall he is getting.  He will be on TV for decades to come.

He doesn't have to develop and craft a defense for trial until discovery is released, a luxury of defense attorneys in the eye of rule of law.  He can concoct whatever works that infiltrates the prosecution's evidence in the timeframe he see fits.  Welcome to Florida.

The evidence is overwhelming.  Commonsense reigns.  Casey will admit to nothing more than an accidental death and a grieving mother's panic.
we lose.

Justice loses.

BUT, the deal will likely involve a minimum 20 year incarceration.  She will be 43.

I'm confused...are you saying she will plead guilty to Homicide or accidental death? and which is punished by 20 years ?

Doesn't matter in a plea deal.  She can plead guilty to hangnails and accept a 50 year sentence.  The prosecution is in control of what they accept and what they don't accept. 

[Russ]

I just hope and pray that LE has something, anything, that definitely ties Casey to the crime scene and Caylee's body.  Like fingerprints, fibers, etc.  Otherwise, am thinking that the defense will likely just spin this forever, just as they did the DNA in the trunk.  Saying something like, 'yeah there's decomp in the trunk.  yeah it's the car casey was driving.  but prove that casey had anything to do with the decomp'.  they may just do the same with all that was found at the crime scene.  'yeah it is Caylee's body, yeah there's items from the house, etc... but prove that casey had anything to do with any of that.'  Can't you just hear Baez saying this?   Without fingerprints, fibers, SOMETHING that definitely connects Casey to Caylee's dead body, am thinking we'll all have whiplash from the spin from the defense.   

I wouldn't worry.  I think there is plenty.   

Seeing the stuffed animals today reminds me of when George and Cindy threw in the trash all those toys given a few months ago on the pretense they were used. That was always odd. I think they had plenty of opportunity to get rid of evidence. So whatever LE took was something they were not expecting at all. Maybe they were looking in Cindy's medicine cabinet not for something they gave Caylee, but some meds for Cindy. Anti-psychotic...?

Casey is the spawn of Cindy.  She took Cindy's sociopathy to the next step.

[Anna]

I want to know what LE has been taking from the Anthony house!  We must BOLO for release of those search warrants.

Think I will watch Geraldo again and try to see that vid by St John better and listen again to what is said about that.

Night all!

[mytime]

Baez may be able to talk her into pleading guilty, but honestly, I can see her denying it to her grave.

Agree.  She will never tell the TRUTH of what happened and may claim she pled guilty to avoid death penalty.

But I think she will get more than twenty years.  I think they will rack up the charges against her.  Felony abuse of a child, etc. and add years by that manner. 

I think in Florida you get twenty years for shoplifting, lol.  Just kidding, just kidding Florida monkeys!  Am a law and order person myself.

Sad thing is that she might accept a 60 year sentence whereby she has the ability to parole out in 10.  You can structure those deals so intricately that she might be able to even bear Baez's next child.  I would like to see his protest if any.

New Florida law - you must serve either 80/85% of sentence now!  (I can't remember which one it is right now!)

[Russ]

IMO, unless Baez leads them down the path of a plea, and thus admitting Caylee died at Casey's hand, Cindy will never believe Casey is guilty. If anyone gives her a thread to hang on to, like a defense strategy, she'll stay in denial.

Cindy will blame OCSO for persecution.  Casey may spend 20 years in jail but Cindy will become rich on rewriting history.

[cheerio]

I want to know what LE has been taking from the Anthony house!  We must BOLO for release of those search warrants.

Think I will watch Geraldo again and try to see that vid by St John better and listen again to what is said about that.

Night all!

Night Night Anna, sleep well!

[Brandi]

Baez may be able to talk her into pleading guilty, but honestly, I can see her denying it to her grave.

Agree.  She will never tell the TRUTH of what happened and may claim she pled guilty to avoid death penalty.

But I think she will get more than twenty years.  I think they will rack up the charges against her.  Felony abuse of a child, etc. and add years by that manner. 

I think in Florida you get twenty years for shoplifting, lol.  Just kidding, just kidding Florida monkeys!  Am a law and order person myself.

Sad thing is that she might accept a 60 year sentence whereby she has the ability to parole out in 10.  You can structure those deals so intricately that she might be able to even bear Baez's next child.  I would like to see his protest if any.

New Florida law - you must serve either 80/85% of sentence now!  (I can't remember which one it is right now!)

Glad to see you are still here, mytime!

[Shell]

I just hope and pray that LE has something, anything, that definitely ties Casey to the crime scene and Caylee's body.  Like fingerprints, fibers, etc.  Otherwise, am thinking that the defense will likely just spin this forever, just as they did the DNA in the trunk.  Saying something like, 'yeah there's decomp in the trunk.  yeah it's the car casey was driving.  but prove that casey had anything to do with the decomp'.  they may just do the same with all that was found at the crime scene.  'yeah it is Caylee's body, yeah there's items from the house, etc... but prove that casey had anything to do with any of that.'  Can't you just hear Baez saying this?   Without fingerprints, fibers, SOMETHING that definitely connects Casey to Caylee's dead body, am thinking we'll all have whiplash from the spin from the defense.   

Just a gut feeling, but I think there is SOMETHING that we are not aware of at this point, and other things (such as computer searches  and circumstances etc) that will tie Casey to Caylee's death.

[Russ]

Baez may be able to talk her into pleading guilty, but honestly, I can see her denying it to her grave.

Agree.  She will never tell the TRUTH of what happened and may claim she pled guilty to avoid death penalty.

But I think she will get more than twenty years.  I think they will rack up the charges against her.  Felony abuse of a child, etc. and add years by that manner. 

I think in Florida you get twenty years for shoplifting, lol.  Just kidding, just kidding Florida monkeys!  Am a law and order person myself.

Sad thing is that she might accept a 60 year sentence whereby she has the ability to parole out in 10.  You can structure those deals so intricately that she might be able to even bear Baez's next child.  I would like to see his protest if any.

New Florida law - you must serve either 80/85% of sentence now!  (I can't remember which one it is right now!)

I would rather have her plea to a 50 year deal ans be eligible for parole in ten years rather than plea out to a 12 year deal whereby she is walking the streets prowling in ten years.

[islandmonkey]

Baez may be able to talk her into pleading guilty, but honestly, I can see her denying it to her grave.

Agree.  She will never tell the TRUTH of what happened and may claim she pled guilty to avoid death penalty.

But I think she will get more than twenty years.  I think they will rack up the charges against her.  Felony abuse of a child, etc. and add years by that manner. 

I think in Florida you get twenty years for shoplifting, lol.  Just kidding, just kidding Florida monkeys!  Am a law and order person myself.

I'm not sure their will be a plea deal.....if there is, the prosecution has to agree to the terms of it, and IMO they have enough to fry her @ss. Not that they will put the DP back on the table-but if they don't LWOP would be ok considering the she will live every day in fear that some guard may "accidentally" turn their back for 1 minute-it happened to Dahmer and John Geoghan (the molesting preist).