Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #83

[flamom]

IMO Crazy was taking Caylee with her everywhere because Cindy started putting her foot down and ceased being a built in babysitter hoping it would force Crazy to take more responsibiltiy.. It didn't work out and I believe that may be a small part of the driving force behind whatever guilt she has...Caylee was a child, not a pet that need3ed to be walked. It just shows how big a chip Crazy is missing. 

[NO1ZMONKEY]

I re-watched the first bond hearing a few minutes ago and finally found the testimony of Yuri very interesting where he said they got a tip from a hairdresser that said she saw Caylee with bruises all over her arms and legs and a mark under her eye...Yuri said he then found a photo of Caylee that had been posted online showing a mark under her eye which substantiated the hairdresser's claims and that in turn led him to question the A's about the kind of mother casey is, how she would discipline Caylee, how she got bruised, etc.

I believe that precious child had been abused for a long time. The question now is HOW and by WHOM in my mind. I am just hoping it is not what I have suspected for a while. The duct tape brought all those fears back, because that is so common in child pornography.

That is very interesting, whats even more interesting is that casey adamently denied having been to a hair dressers. But im positive she did because caylee did have a bruise. but it wasnt from abuse, ricardo was present when it happened remember? I should go back and see how defensive she gets when Cindy asks her about the hairdresser

[Sassycat]

I re-watched the first bond hearing a few minutes ago and finally found the testimony of Yuri very interesting where he said they got a tip from a hairdresser that said she saw Caylee with bruises all over her arms and legs and a mark under her eye...Yuri said he then found a photo of Caylee that had been posted online showing a mark under her eye which substantiated the hairdresser's claims and that in turn led him to question the A's about the kind of mother casey is, how she would discipline Caylee, how she got bruised, etc.

I believe that precious child had been abused for a long time. The question now is HOW and by WHOM in my mind. I am just hoping it is not what I have suspected for a while. The duct tape brought all those fears back, because that is so common in child pornography.

So sad.     

[Puzzler]

On NG tonight, LP said a couple of other things, too:

LP said that Caylee was supposed to be found in August "while Casey was in jail".  It was a daisy chain of information from Casey to Lee to others.  But when they found out that LP was going to get Casey out on bail, the finding of Caylee had to be stopped.

That truly sounds like someone (maybee Lee) could be in really hot water if he tried to manipulate to this degree.

LP also said that the video the PI took was about 600 yards from where Caylee's body was found according to Rob Dick. 

In other words, the talk about Caylee not being there in November is bunk!  600 yards is quite a distance from where the remains were found.

[mgoblue]

I re-watched the first bond hearing a few minutes ago and finally found the testimony of Yuri very interesting where he said they got a tip from a hairdresser that said she saw Caylee with bruises all over her arms and legs and a mark under her eye...Yuri said he then found a photo of Caylee that had been posted online showing a mark under her eye which substantiated the hairdresser's claims and that in turn led him to question the A's about the kind of mother casey is, how she would discipline Caylee, how she got bruised, etc.

I believe that precious child had been abused for a long time. The question now is HOW and by WHOM in my mind. I am just hoping it is not what I have suspected for a while. The duct tape brought all those fears back, because that is so common in child pornography.

That just makes me ill. I ust admit I missed that entire conversation and I'm thankful I didi.

[mgoblue]

IMO Crazy was taking Caylee with her everywhere because Cindy started putting her foot down and ceased being a built in babysitter hoping it would force Crazy to take more responsibiltiy.. It didn't work out and I believe that may be a small part of the driving force behind whatever guilt she has...Caylee was a child, not a pet that need3ed to be walked. It just shows how big a chip Crazy is missing. 

I agree. Cindy has got to be beside herself with guilt.

[Babybear]

Grandma2Maddie, sure does sound like they were suspicious of being bugged.  Betcha they wrote notes and shredded whatever possible. 

And Newfie, I agree!  Am thinking that Cindy (calling from Cali), or Lee, tipped Mallory off to get over to the house and grab something.  Had to have been something small, as you said, like CDs or something.  Pehaps Mallory was trying to wipe something off the computer, shred papers/notes?, something very likely was keeping her very busy.  It was reported that whoever went in there and got her out was "reprimanding" her.  Would lovvvvvvvvve to know how that lil convo went.  heh. 

Seems that LE did not search Mallory.  And why is that?  Seems they didn't ever search Lee's place or even his car.  Why didn't they?  Never heard if LE searched Tony's place or his car either.  Why not?  Casey had just come from there.  Think they could have and it just wasn't reported?  And how about the stuff that Cindy got her hands on (going thru Casey's purse, etc) while LE stood around and let her?  And the computer that 'someone' tried to wipe before LE got ahold of it.  And God only knows what was done with Casey's stuff before Lee even brought it back from Tony's to the A's house.

Do any of you think that between what seems to have been the botched three 911 calls from the meter reader, the above mentioned stuff, and the things that LE *should have* done but appears they didn't........ could the defense at some point after the trial begins, declare a mistrial, for what seems to be a whole LOT of mistakes made by LE???    

The cops can't just search any place they want.  They have to have probable cause and present it to a judge who then agrees and signs a search warrant.  Maybe they couldn't establish probable cause to search Lee's  place. Actually they did search Tony's place.  They didn't need a warrant.  He gave them permission.  They could get a warrant for the Anthony's because that's where Caylee lived

They certainly did botch the 911 calls in August, but I think with hundreds, maybe thousands of tips coming in, they just got tired of following up every call.  Also, they might not have had a system in place to alert them that the meter reader called three times.  No excuse, just maybe a reason.

The defense can't declare a "Mistrial."  They can ask the judge to do so, but not on a whim.  They have to have darn good reason to do it.  A jury, as the Trier of Fact will determine whether or not LE botched it.

Thanks Babybear!  What you've written here along with answers from other monkeys, I'm learning a lot about this stuff.  Each case I learn more! 

I love your doxie avatar.  My fur-baby is a black n tan doxie, and his tail goes just like that for much of the day.  lol

Maybe I can sneak this in before anyone realizes it is OT.  I loved the pic of the doxies although my dog is a mutt someone threw out by the side of the road.  I love him to death.

[Brandi]

About the meter reader guy--wouldnt LE/or FBI ask him to take a lie detector test? Im thinking this might have already happened as LE says hes under no suspicion at all.

I mean they asked LP to do a test,so why not the meter reader?

bumping cause i think it got missed.

I think they probably did have him take a polygraph and he passed. That's why they eliminated him as a suspect. ---IMO

I am not so sure they have eliminated him as a suspect in this mess. They did come out and say that he is NOT a suspect, but LE does that all the time, even when they ARE suspects.

Just sayin.

ahhh but have they called him a person of interest yet? Thats when you got to worry you might be a suspect.

I think there are quite a few "persons of interest" in this case. And a lot of people worrying right now.

[TURBOTHINK]

I re-watched the first bond hearing a few minutes ago and finally found the testimony of Yuri very interesting where he said they got a tip from a hairdresser that said she saw Caylee with bruises all over her arms and legs and a mark under her eye...Yuri said he then found a photo of Caylee that had been posted online showing a mark under her eye which substantiated the hairdresser's claims and that in turn led him to question the A's about the kind of mother casey is, how she would discipline Caylee, how she got bruised, etc.

I believe that precious child had been abused for a long time. The question now is HOW and by WHOM in my mind. I am just hoping it is not what I have suspected for a while. The duct tape brought all those fears back, because that is so common in child pornography.

That is very interesting, whats even more interesting is that casey adamently denied having been to a hair dressers. But im positive she did because caylee did have a bruise. but it wasnt from abuse, ricardo was present when it happened remember? I should go back and see how defensive she gets when Cindy asks her about the hairdresser

IIRC, Amy said Caylee was flirting beyond what a 2 year old would do. (What does a child that age know about "flirting?")

There were also a few friends who said that Caylee would say things to men that wasn't what a 2 1/2 yr old would be saying and they considered  them inappropriate - I have to find it, but I remembered it because I thought, WHAT WOULD a child that age say that would be considered "inappropriate?"

[NO1ZMONKEY]

About the meter reader guy--wouldnt LE/or FBI ask him to take a lie detector test? Im thinking this might have already happened as LE says hes under no suspicion at all.

I mean they asked LP to do a test,so why not the meter reader?

bumping cause i think it got missed.

I think they probably did have him take a polygraph and he passed. That's why they eliminated him as a suspect. ---IMO

I am not so sure they have eliminated him as a suspect in this mess. They did come out and say that he is NOT a suspect, but LE does that all the time, even when they ARE suspects.

Just sayin.

ahhh but have they called him a person of interest yet? Thats when you got to worry you might be a suspect.

I think there are quite a few "persons of interest" in this case. And a lot of people worrying right now.

HEY BRANDI!! OK MONKEYS I HAVE A FAVOR TO ASK. CAN ANYONE PLEASE DONATE THE PICTURES THAT THE DEFENSE USED TO KEEP KC FROM GETTING THE DEATH PENALTY????? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE< I CANT SEEM TO FIND THEM>[/color][/size]

[TURBOTHINK]

I think there are quite a few "persons of interest" in this case. And a lot of people worrying right now.

I would say there are some we don't even know about yet "lawyering up" for the New Year. 

[NO1ZMONKEY]

About the meter reader guy--wouldnt LE/or FBI ask him to take a lie detector test? Im thinking this might have already happened as LE says hes under no suspicion at all.

I mean they asked LP to do a test,so why not the meter reader?

bumping cause i think it got missed.

I think they probably did have him take a polygraph and he passed. That's why they eliminated him as a suspect. ---IMO

I am not so sure they have eliminated him as a suspect in this mess. They did come out and say that he is NOT a suspect, but LE does that all the time, even when they ARE suspects.

Just sayin.

ahhh but have they called him a person of interest yet? Thats when you got to worry you might be a suspect.

I think there are quite a few "persons of interest" in this case. And a lot of people worrying right now.

HEY BRANDI!! OK MONKEYS I HAVE A FAVOR TO ASK. CAN ANYONE PLEASE DONATE THE PICTURES THAT THE DEFENSE USED TO KEEP KC FROM GETTING THE DEATH PENALTY????? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE< I CANT SEEM TO FIND THEM>[/color][/size]

HEY BRANDI!! OK MONKEYS I HAVE A FAVOR TO ASK. CAN ANYONE PLEASE DONATE THE PICTURES THAT THE DEFENSE USED TO KEEP KC FROM GETTING THE DEATH PENALTY????? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE< I CANT SEEM TO FIND THEM

[BluesyGram]

I just left crazy Joy's chatroom, I can't believe I was over there reading, but was very interesting. Supposedly George and Cindy are godparents to Joy's kids. One of the people gave out Amy H phone number, said she called her the other night. 

Didn't some smart monkey find us the report where Joy got her charges of running from the cops dismissed because of her mental condition?

And didn't her husband get arrested for child abuse?

PS.  I hope I am remembering this correctly as I wouldn't want to start a rumor like this.  But I think the actual record was posted so we all got to see it for ourselves.

Sorry to mess up your post...........I didn't get to the bottom of the quotes and don't know how to edit a post.

You are remembering correctly. It is available if anyone doubts it.

Thanks so much for confirming that Turbo.  Two more upstanding citizens that have clung to the A's.

Her children still live in that home...sure hope they are being monitored by CPS.  

[flamom]

I have 2 of those pics

[flamom]

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[Brandi]

It's getting late for me. I still have work to do, so I am going to say goodnight here. And thanks to all of you for being here! You keep me informed and entertained!

Just a reminder before I go that if I decorated your Christmas avatar, I probably have a Valentine waiting for you in the link in my signature line below. If not, check it out anyway!

Good night monkeys!

[flamom]

here is a 3rd

[NO1ZMONKEY]

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. I was looking for this picture, the one with the doll i had heard looked like momma. i dont think its her. JMO. THANK YOU !

[Mtnmom]

It's getting late for me. I still have work to do, so I am going to say goodnight here. And thanks to all of you for being here! You keep me informed and entertained!

Just a reminder before I go that if I decorated your Christmas avatar, I probably have a Valentine waiting for you in the link in my signature line below. If not, check it out anyway!

Good night monkeys!

OT Brandi do you think you could do mine? Not sure anything can be done to it?

[flamom]

It's getting late for me. I still have work to do, so I am going to say goodnight here. And thanks to all of you for being here! You keep me informed and entertained!

Just a reminder before I go that if I decorated your Christmas avatar, I probably have a Valentine waiting for you in the link in my signature line below. If not, check it out anyway!

Good night monkeys!

Goodnight Brandi.. I took a peek at the link and I LOVE IT!! Thanks, when its time I will definitely use them .. you are a talented and kind monkey!!