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« Reply #80 on: December 31, 2008, 02:01:31 PM »

Mum,

I wondered how you were able to put names to posters here that Kermit alluded to.  I said I had the equation wrong and mentioned an underground thing I was not privy to...a reference hinting to the private forum. 

The mole question popped into my mind after the underground statement (thinking of the defunct TV show), and not specifically directed at you...., and no insult was intended.     


Thanks 2NJS...I apologize...

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« Reply #81 on: December 31, 2008, 02:02:01 PM »



Sunny, I came here to post a translation of an article last month. Wreck says go read what Kermit posted...so I went and read it. Not knowing about the Freebirds or where she got them I was suspicious of posts that were copied and pasted out of context. So I called Jug, then I IM'ed Kyle and simply asked questions. They answered them for me. Kyle in detail and he answered the "letter" Jen posted to Jug too. I would say the guy has nothing to hide if he line by line posted his answers to the letter Jen wrote to Jug.

On the other hand, yesterday Kermit posts her "burst the bubble" post which claims John Silvetti took shoes and evidence from the cage and moved it to the pond and Lalas and I are in on the whole big conspiracy and it is so rediculous to me I can't believe it!

OK...I am going to have to go back further and read what you are referring to. I will state as far as you and/or Lala's being a willing part of a conspiracy is laughable. I hope what was meant was perhaps Kermit feels you were both mislead and/or given misleading or incorrect information.  I will say that Kyle may have to be covering his ass and you might want to not believe his words as gospel. IIRC you and discussed Kyle early on and I told you then I was leery of him, not understanding WHY he felt the need to go to message boards.  I felt it was improper for him to reveal anything about the search publically. If he had any doubts or was confused about things or events IMO he should take it to the FBI. I still feel that way. I think it is stupid for him to be telling you or anyone, anything via IM or email...he doesn't know you or anyone else from Adam. So I do question why he would do that?
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« Reply #82 on: December 31, 2008, 02:03:21 PM »

Blonde,

You made a post in the last thread about Caps posting, and a lack of Aruban people on the meter.

Just wanted you to know there were others who noticed that as well.  On numerous occasions. 
Thanks, also when this happend Klaas  wasn't on the fourm. hmmm

??  What do you mean?  When did this happen?

I'm thinking when all this went down with kermit. He was loged in and their was NO Aruba on the site meter.
 No Aruba but looking into my notes 2 unknown  IP's
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« Reply #83 on: December 31, 2008, 02:06:00 PM »

Blonde,

You made a post in the last thread about Caps posting, and a lack of Aruban people on the meter.

Just wanted you to know there were others who noticed that as well.  On numerous occasions. 

I have about 20 in my documents. I have even sent klaas one. From Aruba.
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« Reply #84 on: December 31, 2008, 02:08:00 PM »

ldstlou I wish you would re-think everything you have been told.  Search members for Kermit, Kyle, Tamikosmom, wingnut, jen3560.  Read all their posts.  They are not lying.  JMHO  you have been mis-lead.
IMO Jug only know's what he has been told.


ok...so Kermit knows more than Jug and Dave and Tim am I reading this correctly?


And she sure did state she single handily uncover the conspiracy.

The whole family and Tim Miller were all duped by Kyle and John Silvetti correct? But not old Kermit...she uncovered the whole plot. Good lawd. Not bad for a person who wasn't even there.



Um.  Jug, Dave and Tim were not on the board when Kyle revealed all of his information.  The pertinent info (most of it) was sent to BETH by us, along with an invitation to the board.  And then the same to JQK and the FBI.  So yes - I would have to say that those present at the time this information was shared probably do know a bit more about the details than those who were not present.

so you are saying Beth, the FBI and JQK all believe in your conspiracy theory correct?

So now everyone has the info...Dave, Beth, FBI, JQK...so do they agree with Kermit's theory?

See...I am back to where I started from...and still after a month of going round and round I can not get an answer to this question.

It is clear everyone NOW has the information in question. Some think it was "uncovered" by Kermit, I am one of those who believe the FBI was not duped and had the info right way...regardless of which you believe..Jen has stated Beth, JQK and the FBI has all of the information..and have had it all for at the minimum of several months. So do they believe the "conspiracy theory"?
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« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2008, 02:08:25 PM »

Mum,

I wondered how you were able to put names to posters here that Kermit alluded to.  I said I had the equation wrong and mentioned an underground thing I was not privy to...a reference hinting to the private forum. 

The mole question popped into my mind after the underground statement (thinking of the defunct TV show), and not specifically directed at you...., and no insult was intended.     


Thanks 2NJS...I apologize...



No need for that....we've had a mutual respect as posters here, and I read all of your posts and knew when you had questions.  I did not always follow very well (S&S), unfortunately, but it didn't keep me from trying. 
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« Reply #86 on: December 31, 2008, 02:09:43 PM »

Blonde,

You made a post in the last thread about Caps posting, and a lack of Aruban people on the meter.

Just wanted you to know there were others who noticed that as well.  On numerous occasions. 
Thanks, also when this happend Klaas  wasn't on the fourm. hmmm

??  What do you mean?  When did this happen?

Sometimes when CLW was logged in or posting, there was nobody from Aruba on the sitemeter.

I always supposed he could have been using Anonymouse or some sort of cloaking technique but did find it interesting.

I noticed it as well.
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« Reply #87 on: December 31, 2008, 02:10:06 PM »

Blonde,

You made a post in the last thread about Caps posting, and a lack of Aruban people on the meter.

Just wanted you to know there were others who noticed that as well.  On numerous occasions. 
Thanks, also when this happend Klaas  wasn't on the fourm. hmmm

??  What do you mean?  When did this happen?

I'm not sure if Blonde kept the dates or not - but I'm sure I can find them if she didn't.

Caps was here, signed in (and Blonde, I think you're right - he didn't post) but there was not a single person from Aruba showing up on the site meter.

I know of one person who watched for several days that week specifically for that purpose.

I did for a few days also,  if you don't post you IP doesn't show up on you posts to the admins.
I have been an Admin to many Natalee sites one that was  even cripted  PROTECTED

Now he won't even log in, if he's on to this.
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« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2008, 02:10:46 PM »

Blonde,

You made a post in the last thread about Caps posting, and a lack of Aruban people on the meter.

Just wanted you to know there were others who noticed that as well.  On numerous occasions. 
Thanks, also when this happend Klaas  wasn't on the fourm. hmmm

??  What do you mean?  When did this happen?

I'm thinking when all this went down with kermit. He was loged in and their was NO Aruba on the site meter.
 No Aruba but looking into my notes 2 unknown  IP's


The site meter only shows the last 100 people on.  I know for a fact I am on and I know where I live.  I am not showing up on the site meter right now.  You cannot go by that.
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« Reply #89 on: December 31, 2008, 02:10:56 PM »

Well ... life outside the computer room beckons!

As tradition dictates ... dinner, movie and board games with friends is where it is at this evening.  The secret is out.  Mr. and Mrs. Tamikosmom are real party animals.

 

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« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2008, 02:12:57 PM »

Blonde,

You made a post in the last thread about Caps posting, and a lack of Aruban people on the meter.

Just wanted you to know there were others who noticed that as well.  On numerous occasions. 

I have about 20 in my documents. I have even sent klaas one. From Aruba.


You can get a progran hide the IP and it will show everyone your posting from where ever you want. I know this for a fact, because I had it on my old computer.
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« Reply #91 on: December 31, 2008, 02:13:17 PM »


The site meter only shows the last 100 people on.  I know for a fact I am on and I know where I live.  I am not showing up on the site meter right now.  You cannot go by that.

Yes, that is what I was hoping someone would explain.
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« Reply #92 on: December 31, 2008, 02:13:25 PM »

My head is  shaking and shakng2 and it hurts, a lot.  All I want is Justice for Natalee  There are many things posted in the past couple of days that I need to read over again. Perhaps then my head won't hurt.
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« Reply #93 on: December 31, 2008, 02:13:34 PM »

ldstlou I wish you would re-think everything you have been told.  Search members for Kermit, Kyle, Tamikosmom, wingnut, jen3560.  Read all their posts.  They are not lying.  JMHO  you have been mis-lead.
IMO Jug only know's what he has been told.


ok...so Kermit knows more than Jug and Dave and Tim am I reading this correctly?


And she sure did state she single handily uncover the conspiracy.

The whole family and Tim Miller were all duped by Kyle and John Silvetti correct? But not old Kermit...she uncovered the whole plot. Good lawd. Not bad for a person who wasn't even there.



Um.  Jug, Dave and Tim were not on the board when Kyle revealed all of his information.  The pertinent info (most of it) was sent to BETH by us, along with an invitation to the board.  And then the same to JQK and the FBI.  So yes - I would have to say that those present at the time this information was shared probably do know a bit more about the details than those who were not present.

so you are saying Beth, the FBI and JQK all believe in your conspiracy theory correct?

So now everyone has the info...Dave, Beth, FBI, JQK...so do they agree with Kermit's theory?

See...I am back to where I started from...and still after a month of going round and round I can not get an answer to this question.

It is clear everyone NOW has the information in question. Some think it was "uncovered" by Kermit, I am one of those who believe the FBI was not duped and had the info right way...regardless of which you believe..Jen has stated Beth, JQK and the FBI has all of the information..and have had it all for at the minimum of several months. So do they believe the "conspiracy theory"?

ok then...a month of going back and forth and still my initial question is not answered.

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« Reply #94 on: December 31, 2008, 02:14:41 PM »

ldstlou I wish you would re-think everything you have been told.  Search members for Kermit, Kyle, Tamikosmom, wingnut, jen3560.  Read all their posts.  They are not lying.  JMHO  you have been mis-lead.
IMO Jug only know's what he has been told.


ok...so Kermit knows more than Jug and Dave and Tim am I reading this correctly?


And she sure did state she single handily uncover the conspiracy.

The whole family and Tim Miller were all duped by Kyle and John Silvetti correct? But not old Kermit...she uncovered the whole plot. Good lawd. Not bad for a person who wasn't even there.



Um.  Jug, Dave and Tim were not on the board when Kyle revealed all of his information.  The pertinent info (most of it) was sent to BETH by us, along with an invitation to the board.  And then the same to JQK and the FBI.  So yes - I would have to say that those present at the time this information was shared probably do know a bit more about the details than those who were not present.

so you are saying Beth, the FBI and JQK all believe in your conspiracy theory correct?

So now everyone has the info...Dave, Beth, FBI, JQK...so do they agree with Kermit's theory?

See...I am back to where I started from...and still after a month of going round and round I can not get an answer to this question.

It is clear everyone NOW has the information in question. Some think it was "uncovered" by Kermit, I am one of those who believe the FBI was not duped and had the info right way...regardless of which you believe..Jen has stated Beth, JQK and the FBI has all of the information..and have had it all for at the minimum of several months. So do they believe the "conspiracy theory"?

Kermit never said she uncovered anything she simply had the balls to post it in the open here at SM. 
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« Reply #95 on: December 31, 2008, 02:15:08 PM »



Enjoy, Janet & don't over do the partying........Happy New Year 
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« Reply #96 on: December 31, 2008, 02:17:04 PM »

ldstlou I wish you would re-think everything you have been told.  Search members for Kermit, Kyle, Tamikosmom, wingnut, jen3560.  Read all their posts.  They are not lying.  JMHO  you have been mis-lead.
IMO Jug only know's what he has been told.


ok...so Kermit knows more than Jug and Dave and Tim am I reading this correctly?


And she sure did state she single handily uncover the conspiracy.

The whole family and Tim Miller were all duped by Kyle and John Silvetti correct? But not old Kermit...she uncovered the whole plot. Good lawd. Not bad for a person who wasn't even there.



Um.  Jug, Dave and Tim were not on the board when Kyle revealed all of his information.  The pertinent info (most of it) was sent to BETH by us, along with an invitation to the board.  And then the same to JQK and the FBI.  So yes - I would have to say that those present at the time this information was shared probably do know a bit more about the details than those who were not present.

so you are saying Beth, the FBI and JQK all believe in your conspiracy theory correct?

So now everyone has the info...Dave, Beth, FBI, JQK...so do they agree with Kermit's theory?

See...I am back to where I started from...and still after a month of going round and round I can not get an answer to this question.

It is clear everyone NOW has the information in question. Some think it was "uncovered" by Kermit, I am one of those who believe the FBI was not duped and had the info right way...regardless of which you believe..Jen has stated Beth, JQK and the FBI has all of the information..and have had it all for at the minimum of several months. So do they believe the "conspiracy theory"?

Kermit never said she uncovered anything she simply had the balls to post it in the open here at SM. 

her exact words were she "single handily" uncovered the conspiracy, she certainly did say that. I even brought it up yesterday to her...now she claims she was "only joking".
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« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2008, 02:17:22 PM »

If it is true that Kyle did not turn information over in a timely manner(Freebirds did),was attempting to broker with TV networks,as well as mislead people.What is the reasoning of defending him??

To clarify.I believe Kyle did those thing until proven otherwise!I can't defend someone when the foundation of their character is broken.JMOO
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« Reply #98 on: December 31, 2008, 02:17:48 PM »

How can "everyone" have the information now if we don't even know what ALE took from the cage?  There is more than just the photos. 
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« Reply #99 on: December 31, 2008, 02:19:27 PM »

My head is  shaking and shakng2 and it hurts, a lot.  All I want is Justice for Natalee  There are many things posted in the past couple of days that I need to read over again. Perhaps then my head won't hurt.

 

I hope reading it all again does not compund the symptoms!
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