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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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January 01, 2009, 08:11:32 PM »
Quote from: truthseeker2 on January 01, 2009, 08:07:49 PM
Quote from: SS on January 01, 2009, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: Kermit on January 01, 2009, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on January 01, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: SS on January 01, 2009, 07:39:51 PM
I have had a very interesting thought, but maybe some of you might think I've lost it. Kermit said that she had IPs for Caps from Aruba, NY, and Paris. This seems unusual to me for someone who John Silvetti claimed was unemployed. Do you suppose that Caps could be some kind of an agent, like CIA or something?
So Caps had IP addresses from all of those locations? Did not know that. I don't spend that much time at the sitemeter.
He has different IPs, but he also uses more then one computer.
Could he be some kind of a special agent?
I guess anything is possible. Remember, there was a DEA agent there the very first day. I think we were told he was 'vacationing'. Who knows what we have down there, considering we have the FOB.
I don't know anything about Interpol, but do they have agents?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Long ago and far away, I did a lot of reverses on IP addresses especially when my computer would get hacked. Routinely there was a connection through France for Aruba.
Don't remember ever getting NY as one, however. I think the France one came about through Setar from what I remember. Lost it all when computer was crashed.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: SS on January 01, 2009, 07:39:51 PM
I have had a very interesting thought, but maybe some of you might think I've lost it. Kermit said that she had IPs for Caps from Aruba, NY, and Paris. This seems unusual to me for someone who John Silvetti claimed was unemployed. Do you suppose that Caps could be some kind of an agent, like CIA or something?
Miss you SS,
My thoughts are he was using a hide the IP program.
I can come in her now looking like I live in China
I had this program and used it often a few years back.
I could pick anywhere but some ran faster then others
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Misc__Utilities/Hide_IP.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: bastibro on January 01, 2009, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: nimrod on January 01, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 01, 2009, 05:59:10 PM
Quote from: nimrod on January 01, 2009, 05:52:18 PM
Quote from: iris44 on January 01, 2009, 04:26:52 PM
Johan's post on the previous thread regarding the dive company from Rotterdam's analysis of the ROV pictures seems pretty convincing, but there has not been much discussion about it. Does anyone else find their analysis fairly convincing that there was no skull in the cage? Maybe Kyle was scamming
everyone
and just trying to make money off selling the pics (which he knew were not a body) to the networks. If that is true, that could be why he did not send the info to the family and the FBI. Maybe the networks wouldn't buy the pics because they also new it was not a body.
Bingo!!
I've never seen one thing in that cage that looks like human remains to me.. I agree with you that "someone" could be trying to capitalize on a failed mission in the search for Natalee.
Well, what do you think this is?
I don't know what it is. Do you?
I think it looks a lot like a human ischium . .
If the cage is really only 2 1/2 feet tall, wouldn't the ischium be too small to be human, too, just like the skull?
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 08:04:36 PM
I believe it was in regards to ldstlou and Kyle's communication?
possibly
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: blah on January 01, 2009, 08:13:26 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 08:04:36 PM
I believe it was in regards to ldstlou and Kyle's communication?
possibly
Happy New Year's Blah!
Just read back the last couple of threads and you are sure to find it, lol!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: Kermit on January 01, 2009, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 07:41:58 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 07:32:20 PM
Did the Freebirds come up with an opinion based on their research of how the cage,and or Natalee got out there.I think you started to touch on it Kermit but don't remember if it was followed up on.The Gottenbo's??
Bump
I think the FACES of EVIL document lays out the timeline, which was if I remember correctly used by the RV Persistence at some point.
Faces of Evil - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDSSvwsGCGM
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4hqxDr38U
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8HcDGFWYsY
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eda9a3RJrww
Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiVPbvOK9aU
Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrB18h9OkXE
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: Blonde on January 01, 2009, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: SS on January 01, 2009, 07:39:51 PM
I have had a very interesting thought, but maybe some of you might think I've lost it. Kermit said that she had IPs for Caps from Aruba, NY, and Paris. This seems unusual to me for someone who John Silvetti claimed was unemployed. Do you suppose that Caps could be some kind of an agent, like CIA or something?
Miss you SS,
My thoughts are he was using a hide the IP program.
I can come in her now looking like I live in China
I had this program and used it often a few years back.
I could pick anywhere but some ran faster then others
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Misc__Utilities/Hide_IP.html
Thanks Blonde, I've missed you, too. I don't know anything about sitemeters or IPs. I tries to find myself on the SM meter once and I couldn't do it. If he appeared about the same time as the first Peter de Vries program, do you think that he's working for someone or a government other than Aruba?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: Kermit on January 01, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
yes, but I'm sure it's either pages back or in the last thread.
Could you repeat it or give a cliff notes version?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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January 01, 2009, 08:27:42 PM »
Quote from: blah on January 01, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: Kermit on January 01, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
yes, but I'm sure it's either pages back or in the last thread.
Could you repeat it or give a cliff notes version?
Kermit said that she would come back last night and burst a bubble.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: MumInOhio on January 01, 2009, 08:23:28 AM
Quote from: finngirl on January 01, 2009, 05:18:19 AM
the glorification of Caps
(including providing protection for him)
by members of our community
was an orchestrated event lasting 12 months
and requires explanation
so, yah, a big frickin' deal
Hi Finn... Tibro and I questioned Caps' English in Shango along time ago. I asked many questions and was told to stop questioning everything that he posted. IIRC, I was even told to back up my posts...which in itself was a joke.
Hi Mum - Happy New Year. At least we can beat you to that LOL as I am always hours behind in reading here.
I remember our questioning many times Caps use of English.
IIRC the only straight answer I ever got from Caps was when I asked him if he was on Aruba at the time of Natalee's disappearance and he answered NO.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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January 01, 2009, 08:30:03 PM »
Quote from: blah on January 01, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: Kermit on January 01, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
yes, but I'm sure it's either pages back or in the last thread.
Could you repeat it or give a cliff notes version?
I think this may be it blah:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.700
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Kermit got the information together quicker than anticipated.
It was posted night before last.
You can find it.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: SS on January 01, 2009, 08:27:42 PM
Quote from: blah on January 01, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: Kermit on January 01, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
yes, but I'm sure it's either pages back or in the last thread.
Could you repeat it or give a cliff notes version?
Kermit said that she would come back last night and burst a bubble.
No.
I'll put it all together so it will open everyone's eyes as to why Idstlou is behaving and asking what she is.
Believe me, it's all because of the information she has been fed.
I do not know Idstlou and certainly have no intention to hurt her feelings when I burst the bubble.
That's my disclaimer so she knows ahead of time. She said she wanted to know the truth and she is only getting what someone wants her to know.
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Quote from: Magnolia on January 01, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Kermit got the information together quicker than anticipated.
It was posted night before last.
You can find it.
So who is feeding Ldstlou her information Mags?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: Anna on January 01, 2009, 08:15:22 PM
Happy New Year's Blah!
Just read back the last couple of threads and you are sure to find it, lol!
Happy New Year Anna!!!
Guess i'll never know as I aint reading back and that damn frog left!!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Was the trap something the crew of the ship had NOT intended to come upon? Seems to me if they were there under the guise of oil then coming upon the cage was not on their agenda. This would put them in an awful situation when Tim Miller had already seen what he thought was a skull and ABC being onboard. Would this have sent them reeling when it all unfolded?
Was Caps sent to SM to get us off the subject of the pictures and the contents of the trap? Personally I believe he was. I think Kyle couldn't control us from the questions we were asking and had to do something (or better yet John Silvetti) to stop the focus and questions on the cage. It does appear to have worked at the time as we were all reluctant to continue with the discussion.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: blah on January 01, 2009, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 01, 2009, 08:15:22 PM
Happy New Year's Blah!
Just read back the last couple of threads and you are sure to find it, lol!
I posted a link for you blah up above, here it is again...
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.700
Happy New Year Anna!!!
Guess i'll never know as I aint reading back and that damn frog left!!!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on January 01, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Kermit got the information together quicker than anticipated.
It was posted night before last.
You can find it.
So who is feeding Ldstlou her information Mags?
Here is an excerpt from kermit's post:
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WHO IS DEFENDING KYLE AND CAPS?/b]
Now, if we remember Kathy Drenga (Hotshot) - she is the one that went to Aruba with BestBuddy & uploaded the Aru-bay videos to her website and the photos of the Lions Den. THEN she is the one that felt Natalee was buried in the cometary. THEN she thought she was in the BAG that Blonde found and that photo was seen in National Enquirer. THEN Kathy Drenga (Hotshot) started talking with Kyle and also CAPS.
as I'm reading back through ALL her posts, I'm see a picture. She is FEEDING CAPS information.That is why we see CAPS post she is in the MOKO (Kathy posted about the MOKO too), then he changes it to Montajan then the cemetery etc etc.
She sets it up for CAPS to go meet John Silvetti after contacting Kyle and from there CAPS story changes like the wind just like hers.
#902 on: July 11, 2006, 05:39:05 PM Hotshot:
I just feel those ponds that "WONT" be searched is a place that needs to be. They know they cant drain them, too much water, and they know they cant dive them, too murky. They are not dumb, but like to play dumb. Don't forget they got a hit with the dogs at one, but couldn't do anything about it
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=63.msg13147#msg13147
REMEMBER THIS:
CAPS CLAIMS THIS POND CONTAINS A TENNIS SHOE AND HUMAN REMAINS SPECIAL NOTE - ACCORDING TO DAVE HOLLOWAY, CAPS WITNESS HAS MET WITH JOHN SILVETTI OF THE PERSISTENCE BY NOW
Hotshot:
Don't know, but that mud would eat his shoes for sure.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=164.msg31737#msg31737
Hotshot: “You guys are going to look really silly in the end for downing the people like silvetti, and Kyle, and CAPS.”
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg565899#msg565899
Idstlou
213 on: September 22, 2008, 10:04:02 AM ldstlou
Lalas!!! Our friend just called you back and you didn't answer!!! lol
Can you call him back now.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3390.200
lalasmom
#231 on: September 22, 2008, 11:25:48 AM lalasmom
Sorry!! So sorry!! LOL Will do...give me a minute...I was talking to my kid. Sorry!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3390.220
#410 on: September 23, 2008, 08:56:12 AM ldstlou
Lalas!! your phone is ringing!!
trying to caaaaall you!!! lol
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3390.msg467158#msg467158
413 on: September 23, 2008, 09:03:27 AM lalassmom
No it's not! LOL Try again.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3390.msg467158#msg467158
#344 on: September 22, 2008, 09:20:45 PM lalasmom
So Tim Miller and John Silvetti are the ones that made arrangements for Caps witness to come to the USA and take the polygraph. Mos was a bit upset. Why am I not surprised?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3390.340
lalas here/attachment/don't delete
Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:16 AM
Capslockwizard info.
[Note: This was the email to Dave Holloway]
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Yap ... do you have information to the contrary.
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Janet, actually I do. I would rather not go in to it here. You are welcome to get my email address from Klaas.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #788 12/31/08 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 01, 2009, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on January 01, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Kermit got the information together quicker than anticipated.
It was posted night before last.
You can find it.
So who is feeding Ldstlou her information Mags?
IMO it is Kyle.
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===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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