Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #84

[Leroy]

HH brought up this morning the angle of money, and maybe JP Chatt's family who are millionaries are financing Casey's defense, if JP is the father of Caylee. I am even wondering about those pictures of Casey that we have only heard about, though saw one of the pics. Maybe there is some connection money wise for paying Casey's defense. The hush, hush of where the money is coming from is very questionable.

I think a major media outlet is financing the defense.    Someone who is planning to make a lot of money off the rights to the story.  Hopefully, we will find out who it is, eventually.

Sassy - I think you are spot on with that theory.

[SunnyinTX]

I am not going down the incest road either   

I was just lurking in the NH thread and believe it or not there is a frog over there double-dog daring       

I'm sitting tight over here for a while   

hahahaha...that frog ROCKS!!

[Fuzzball]

Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill.
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore.
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face.
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him.
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content.
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death.

8. LP is sexy.

All interesting observations...thanks JJ.  I can totally see Casey being the agressor in sexual situations.  Remember what the fired OCSO officer said...he felt like the "girl".  I can see Casey using sex for power and given the dynamics of this family, I wonder if GA has a substance abuse problem, hence his inability to sustain employment, seemingly total lack of respect from his wife and children and ultimately clouding his judgement in a compromising (and sick) situation with his daughter.   

I can't help but think I'll log on one day and find out you've run off to CA with your Sexy LP! 

While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I thought they were very interesting observations, particularly the bucket list and the idea that the pet graveyard might actually contain serial victims not just beloved pets that had died.

But it sounded like an attempt to let George off the hook for sexually abusing his daughter, because it's Casey, after all, and so it must actually have been her fault.

Like Casey had to be the aggressor simply because she's "more evil" than George. But actually the typical profile for women who kill their kids, is that they are sexually abused by their fathers, and therefore when a boyfriend dumps them it's the end of the world. Having been treated as things by their own parents, these women of course don't see their own children as anything more than things. And since everything in the world revolved around Daddy's satisfaction, their adult world revolves around being accepted by some man they're obsessed with.

It would fit quite well if George did have sex with Casey starting when she was 17, because she lost interest in school around that time. But given Cindy's behavior, it's more likely Lee. I think she'd have thrown Casey out if she knew the father was George, but when Casey came to her and said Lee had been trying to molest her, Cindy for ONCE didn't believe her. (which means she probably was telling the truth for once.)

[Sea Searcher]

Don't worry, Boo!  I am a one woman man.

 

No more tea for you, are we cross gendering now? If so, you are the prettiest little man in the cage!!
All is forgiven, it's the drugs man, they are kicking my butt!!

Oops!  Too much sick child!  I need a vacay!

I am a one man woman!!!   

I totally missed this...

You know I'm not laughing at your sick little one.. 

[Hudsunn]

Just when I think we have thought of everything about Casey and this case, along comes something new and interesting.  I found JJays post very interesting to read.  My comments and questions are in parentheses.
JJay posted this below:

Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill. (Have we established that Casey was a serial killer?  Not really, but I do think she planned to off her parents.  At least, I did until I read this post, and now I think she may have wanted Cindy dead and planned to handle George -- no pun intended -- some other way.  He is by far the dumber of the two parents.)
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore. (I am not sure he used to babysit for her, but he may have.  It is also possible he and Casey agreed that he would babysit and not tell Cindy.)
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face. (This actually makes sense to me.  A psychologist would pick up on these things quickly.  Casey does cry much more easily when she sees George.  And she told Amy the parents were divorcing.  Was that as much a hope or wish as anything else?)
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him. (I think she sees all authority figures as a threat to her freedom.  Makes sense to me.)
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content. (This is most interesting of all.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  She got rid of Caylee and felt extremely free and set about doing all the things she wanted to do.  I wonder if Cindy disapproved of tattoos.  She would party until she got caught, however long that was.)
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death. (There is no doubt a confession would make her more sympathetic, especially if she claimed she snapped because of abuse, etc.  But everyone wants to know what happened and when.  Would her confession be believable or would she embellish it?  That I do not know.  One other thing.  If she killed Caylee at least in part to spite or punish Cindy, she will want to punish her further.  Perhaps the confession will include, "I did it because of Mom.")

8. LP is sexy. (No comment.)

[islandmonkey]

JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt.

LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

Amen to that, and the bright idea of his to try and have Tim search the little ECON again so he could hold up Caylee's skull for all the media to see , and HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DENY IT????? That is the lowest of the low IMO

To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!

At the time, Tim had been going on and on about how much money he was losing. It's pretty much all he talked about for several months. So you can hardly blame LP for assuming he was about the money.

But since then, I've wondered if their "feud" was staged to maybe get the Ants to talk to one or the other of them. Kind of a "good cop, bad cop" thing.

I cannot square LP dredging little Econ river with knowing the body was already found, unless he was asked to create some kind of diversion. I can all too easily picture LE leaving the body there & doing surveillance in hopes of catching any accomplices who showed up to move the body.

???????? I never heard Tim go on and on FOR MONTHS ABOUT MONEY????? He did mention it on NG a couple of times because he was pissed at Casey ......he was out there spending sh!tloads of money he didn't have, when if she really handed off her kid or knew where she was, others who really wanted their child found would be upset that he spent more time in Orlando and not on the other cases. No good deed goes unpunished, and I damn well can blame LP for assuming Tim was all about money, LP has the corner on that market. Secondly, do you really believe that LE knew where Caylee was, left her their to do surveillance and would risk losing all the evidence that soft tissue could provide or any anthropological studies~there is not a chance in hell they LE would let that baby lay there one extra day to rot more, my God that is absurd beyond belief.

[Wyks]

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 

[Leroy]

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 

      

Yikes, think i'll go check back in on that double-dog daring frog!

[Wyks]

Hey everybody.....just and ideal but I wonder if there isnt more to the JP Chatt rumor than what we thought and if this could be where the money for Casey's dream team is coming from......YOU NEVER KNOW.......
JP Chatts family is very wealthy… His father is Joseph Chatt and he is the Chairman of CaribEx worldwide…(In Puerto Rico) Joseph chatt Jr is the President of Caribbean.. Madeline Chatt (JP’s sister) is the Business Development and DR ops manager in Florida…I heard this is the Chatt’s business… I think I reqad that gross sales or profit was 87 million (need to find that link)
Also please note: there is a Cyndy Baez that also works there as a Billing/Inventory Control Specialist….. could she be kin to Jose?

This is all very interesting HH, thank you.  Am thinking there is MUCH more to the JP Chatt story.  Whatever it may be, it certainly was hushed up in a fast hurry!!  That just makes me think there's something that somebody doesn't want known publically, which makes me even more suspicious.  It seems to me that they've tiptoed around the whole thing with JP Chatt, whatever it may be.
 

[Fuzzball]

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.

No, just sayin that George wasn't the evil aggressor. Sure he's guilty of participating. Maybe Casey drugged him. Who knows. I just always thought that incest was man against woman, and never considered that Casey could have been woman against man in this instance.

Usually the aggressor is the older party. I'm curious why your friend thought Casey would be the aggressor here. MOST of the time it is the man initiating it, and always it's the younger party submitting to the older because they think they have to. It rolls downhill.

When women initiate incest, it's usually consensual incest between same-age siblings, cousins, or it's child abuse. Sorry, but daughters don't seduce fathers. You'll find loads of porn that says they do, but very little in the way of actual statistics.

And there is no drug in the world that would make a man unable to recognize his own daughter but somehow still able to perform in bed. I don't think that will fly as an excuse. If he screwed his own daughter, he's simply not a good father, and definitely Caylee should not have grown up with him around. 

[BooMonkey]

there is no proof of incest on anyone's part.....and I just don't even get in the discussion about it. Until I see  some proof....not supposition or theory or plain old bullcrap I am not going down that road.

ITA Sunny. We are forgetting what a sociopath is. They lie about everything to their advantage. They read people and become what they need in order to take something from that person. They are sexually promiscuous. Sex for KC was just another tool in her arsenal. She used it to her advantage to make people do things for her and give her what she needed. If she was feeling that the guy might be pulling away, bring out one of the big guns, incest, yes that will make them feel sorry for me and not abandon me, at least for now until I have found a suitable replacement for them!    Never, did she ever think it would get back to Lee or George that she said that. Even if it did she would lie. I for one am not giving her one damn inch of an excuse for her behavior. She is who she is and has always been that way.

[NO1ZMONKEY]

While I see Casey being the aggressor in a sexual situation, whether she "seduced" her father or not, George is STILL sick for falling for her "seduction".  He still is an evil man for molesting his daughter, because he should know better, even if Casey is an adult.

An example of how I come to this deduction...

I know my dad smokes pot occasionally.  I smoke too and I've always wanted to smoke with him.  A few years back, I asked him if he wanted to smoke with me in the garage...I was 25 at the time, by the way.  At first he looked confused, and then he looked embarrassed, and then he said, "No Way!"  He did this because he is my dad and he will not be a party to something that is destructive to my health and well-being because that is the job that he signed up for 27 years ago.

I don't know why, but I'm really bothered by jj's insinuation that George is less evil because he is seduced.  And no nanners because I smoke the occasional j.  thankyouverymuch.

I just got back-on and am trying to catch-up.  I really don't care if a person smokes pot or not.  What I want to know is where is there any substantiation that GA seduced KC?  That's a pretty strong accusation, isn't it?    

1.) My situation was reverse.. my dad WANTED me to smoke out with him. I never did, because it just made me uncomfortable, even thinking about it.    It had nothing to do with sex. It's just weird!!

2.) Are we suggesting there is proof now that Casey was molested? And hold the phone. that SHE seduced her own father? 

uhh.. couldnt let the pot conversation get by me. haha. I have been smoking legally for three years now, but previous to receiving my card i had been smoking since about the age of 13. Everybody knows, including my 80 year old grandma. Who walked outside on Christmas and discovered me smoking my kind of cig. and she begged me for a hit. I had to digress, I COULDNT DO IT. But it sure would have been a funny story to tell my kids.
BTW IMHO- i think anyone who has doubts about George Anthony needs to go back and read his statements to LE, he really dislikes his daughter, and im used to seeing abusive fathers be over protective, especially during and interrogation. IDK as an ex cop i dont think raping his daughter would be his thing. He was way to honest of his feelings for her, read it again. I swear you'll see it!

[Wyks]

Hi guys! 

I just watched the video of Cindy, where there's been discussion of her pupils. At first, I thought that it may be nothing. It appears to be dark out and because Cindy was speakig and looking directly at the interviewer instead of the camera and light source, I just attributed it to that. Our pupils get larger to let in maximum light in the dark.

However, I noticed later in the interview, when she swung her head toward the camera and light source, that her pupils remained the same. No question in my mind, she's taking medication that would cause that. Pupils react quickly to change when the amount of light changes. Cindy's didn't.

She doesn't appear to be slurring words beyond anything unusual or presenting with an unusual affect, so I doubt it's something super depressive. I don't know what it is or where she got it, but I'd bet a lot of money a blood test would show some kind of mood altering drug.

Good observation CBB!!   

[SweetMorgan]

Just when I think we have thought of everything about Casey and this case, along comes something new and interesting.  I found JJays post very interesting to read.  My comments and questions are in parentheses.
JJay posted this below:

Since we are in a lull time I'd like to ask a few lingering questions. I dicussed the case with someone with a psychology background who knew nothing about the case. A few great observations I'd like to share.
1. Serial killers will bury 3 or more pets in a graveyard. I wonder if any of these pets were chloroformed. No way to tell but the idea may have been planted a long time ago. Serial killers regress to the burial site. They will also take a trophy from the creatures they kill. (Have we established that Casey was a serial killer?  Not really, but I do think she planned to off her parents.  At least, I did until I read this post, and now I think she may have wanted Cindy dead and planned to handle George -- no pun intended -- some other way.  He is by far the dumber of the two parents.)
2. The fight on Fathers Day preceeded the first day George was going back to work, right? So Casey didn't have a back up babysitter anymore. (I am not sure he used to babysit for her, but he may have.  It is also possible he and Casey agreed that he would babysit and not tell Cindy.)
3. Casey instigated the incest... with her father, the only one who makes her cry. She stole the gas cans for his attention. She knew he was possessive of his mantools and would notice them gone. She was trying to piss him off because she was now empowered with being on her own and without her lovechild. She was challenging him.
4. She seduced her father, (most people think it's the evil man who does the molesting) in her mind wanted to kill Cindy to be with daddy and forced him to make a choice. When he chose Cindy Casey went bonkos and took away the last connection to George. Then she threw it in his face. (This actually makes sense to me.  A psychologist would pick up on these things quickly.  Casey does cry much more easily when she sees George.  And she told Amy the parents were divorcing.  Was that as much a hope or wish as anything else?)
5. Casey feels the cops are the same level as her parents, neither deserve the truth. She doesn't trust her family, including Lee. She is not emotionally attached to anyone, not even Baez... unless she planned to kill him. (I think she sees all authority figures as a threat to her freedom.  Makes sense to me.)
6. Her post-Caylee binge was a bucket list, she got her partying and tats done because she knew she would not have freedom eventually. She is content in jail and accepts her existence since she has no emotional attachment to her past now. She feels safe there and content. (This is most interesting of all.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  She got rid of Caylee and felt extremely free and set about doing all the things she wanted to do.  I wonder if Cindy disapproved of tattoos.  She would party until she got caught, however long that was.)
7. She does things in monthly incriments. So she will confess on Jan 15th. That will make her a martyr because she planned her own death. (There is no doubt a confession would make her more sympathetic, especially if she claimed she snapped because of abuse, etc.  But everyone wants to know what happened and when.  Would her confession be believable or would she embellish it?  That I do not know.  One other thing.  If she killed Caylee at least in part to spite or punish Cindy, she will want to punish her further.  Perhaps the confession will include, "I did it because of Mom.")

8. LP is sexy. (No comment.)

Hi Hudsunn, Could I make a request that instead of using parenthises that you use, maybe, a different color.  I so very much enjoy your posts but being older I was having a little hard time with the same color.  You know, treat me like a child!  Thank you and please keep posting, I love and agree with your theories.

[Blaze]

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/rick-plesea-and-cindys-emails/

If anyone is interested, here are some email between CA and her brother Rick.

[Sassycat]

For what it's worth -   I like both Tim and LP.   I actually felt sad that there was a rif between the two men.   

I had donated to TES.  Then, LP kept asking people on NG to send donations to TES, so I donated again.   I think LP was sincerely trying to help TES receive more donations.   Fans of LP did donate to TES after he asked!

I never heard LP ask for one dime.   But, I guess he's getting "his" from the media - and the interviews.   As far as his theories, I find his views interesting, but I always decide for myself if I believe what he is saying.  Sometimes I do, sometimes, I don't.

I felt sick when I learned that people were demanding their money back from TES when Tim pulled out of Orlando.  To me, that was just plain WRONG.   I sat in Murt's van and heard people say they wanted TES to refund them for the bottled water and pizzas that were bought.   That was also WRONG.

Both men have their strengths and weaknesses.  They are just men.    I like both of them.

[anothermonkey]

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 

Ok.. this kind of behavior from Casey would not surprise me in the least.. however, why the hell would she share this with Cindy? Lee, maybe.. but would he tell his parents?    I'm curious how Rick would know this, if it's even true.

[rmcalo]

there is no proof of incest on anyone's part.....and I just don't even get in the discussion about it. Until I see  some proof....not supposition or theory or plain old bullcrap I am not going down that road.

ITA Sunny. We are forgetting what a sociopath is. They lie about everything to their advantage. They read people and become what they need in order to take something from that person. They are sexually promiscuous. Sex for KC was just another tool in her arsenal. She used it to her advantage to make people do things for her and give her what she needed. If she was feeling that the guy might be pulling away, bring out one of the big guns, incest, yes that will make them feel sorry for me and not abandon me, at least for now until I have found a suitable replacement for them!    Never, did she ever think it would get back to Lee or George that she said that. Even if it did she would lie. I for one am not giving her one damn inch of an excuse for her behavior. She is who she is and has always been that way.

I think this is a very good assessment of the incest stories.

[Fuzzball]

JJ~ I know you think he's sexy, but IMO he is getting in the way of the investigation, why does he think he has the right to interview Kronk , that should be left to LE and FBI, I don't think LE even wants him involved, but answer this.......why in the hell did he offer money to the meter reader because he had the fortitude to go into the palmetto's and look, then accuse him of being part of the daisy chain, then just this week when he hears Nejame (who actually called Kronk's atty to make the offer) offers a reward, then LP has to jump in again and throw a monkey wrench into the investigation. LE and FBI should interview Kronk, and not a bounty hunter. He's has had way to many theories and IMO and by his own words is a media whore.

No nanner throwing as I know you love him, but I have problems with him contributing to the confusion that God forbid should turn into reasonable doubt.

LP is doing his job. LE is doing their job. LE has no grounds to investigate Kronk. Unless something of interest pops up. LE cannot make things of interest pop up. Know what I mean?

Yes, LP is sexy but my boyfriend is way hotter so I won't be stealing the bounty hunter anytime soon. I like LP in the media, he's interesting and professional. His style is old school and he knows how LE and FBI work.

How is LP doing his job? He is a bounty hunter! IMO he is mudding the waters.  He may be interesting, but professional???  I don't see him going on NG and other shows spouting off as being professional. I don't dislike him,,,,but since he said he was doing this as vengeance against casey for making a fool of him, I feel he is no asset to the case at all. Had he said he was doing this for Caylee I might be more tolerant. He even admitted his little adventure at the Little Econ was a fiasco. He trashed Tim and TES, He certainly doesn't rank high in my book and I am sure I am not alone in feeling this way.

Amen to that, and the bright idea of his to try and have Tim search the little ECON again so he could hold up Caylee's skull for all the media to see , and HE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DENY IT????? That is the lowest of the low IMO

To say something like that to Tim Miller was more than disgusting...............and you are right he didn't/couldn't deny it. I have never heard Tim talk like he did about LP.....you could tell from his words and his demeanor he was not only angry but reviled!!

At the time, Tim had been going on and on about how much money he was losing. It's pretty much all he talked about for several months. So you can hardly blame LP for assuming he was about the money.

But since then, I've wondered if their "feud" was staged to maybe get the Ants to talk to one or the other of them. Kind of a "good cop, bad cop" thing.

I cannot square LP dredging little Econ river with knowing the body was already found, unless he was asked to create some kind of diversion. I can all too easily picture LE leaving the body there & doing surveillance in hopes of catching any accomplices who showed up to move the body.

???????? I never heard Tim go on and on FOR MONTHS ABOUT MONEY????? He did mention it on NG a couple of times because he was pissed at Casey ......he was out there spending sh!tloads of money he didn't have, when if she really handed off her kid or knew where she was, others who really wanted their child found would be upset that he spent more time in Orlando and not on the other cases. No good deed goes unpunished, and I damn well can blame LP for assuming Tim was all about money, LP has the corner on that market. Secondly, do you really believe that LE knew where Caylee was, left her their to do surveillance and would risk losing all the evidence that soft tissue could provide or any anthropological studies~there is not a chance in hell they LE would let that baby lay there one extra day to rot more, my God that is absurd beyond belief.

You're right--that idea about LE leaving the body there was absurd. I thought maybe they could done those studies on the spot, right where she was, but it's very unlikely. This case is messing with my head.

Re: Tim & LP--I had never heard of him before this case. It seemed to me that he was always calling off searches because of money, and always talking about how much he was losing, etc... Understand I only saw him in this case, and not in any of the hundreds of other cases he's been involved in.

NONE of that fight made any sense to me, because how in the hell could Tim emerge from the river with the skull, if the skull wasn't there in the river? I've always wondered why LP was so certain it was in the river, and Tim was so certain it wasn't, and I think there's way more to that conversation than either man is saying. JMO. 

[Wyks]

Think about it for a minute.    What if Casey didnt let JP know until after Caylee was born that he was the father, and then think about how Jose can just go all out and hire up this dream team to defend Casey like he has, you know someone has to be paying and also  this would be how Jose became Caseys Lawyer, if this family wanted to keep Caseys mouth shut about the baby's father, what better way to ensure that then to pay for the best defense team for her in exchange for her silence........................makes sense to me!

    

Makes sense to me too HH!  And we do know that there is that 'anonymous donor', who may just have a never-ending stack of money available.  We've wondered who would donate such an amount, and why??  We've wondered where the heck the $$ is coming from to pay for such a dream team defense.  This could certainly answer questions for both of those areas.  Hmmmm...