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« Reply #1580 on: January 02, 2009, 06:25:13 PM »

Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

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LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know

   Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
Boo you are funny when you are sick.

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« Reply #1581 on: January 02, 2009, 06:25:33 PM »

1) Casey doesn't have a collection of trophies, does she? Kiomarie would know. She'd also know if the pets they buried there were ever killed for that purpose. The serial killer angle I can buy, but it does point to serious abuse by a father.

2) It's the father who instigates father/daughter incest, most of the time. And it is the evil ADULT who is to blame for any molestation. BTW, her instigating it doesn't mean he's not an evil molester for taking her up on it. Fathers aren't supposed to do that. Usually when a girl wants to kill her father, it's because he had sex with her, not because he stopped. It's the father who kills over being "spurned," in an incestuous relationship. If George is Casey's father, then Casey needs no other motive to want to hurt him than that. This stuff about wanting him to choose her over Cindy is interesting but unlikely. George left Cindy right when Caylee was born, and ran off with a gf and his $60,000 in workman's comp benefits. He didn't come back til he'd spent his money.

Makes sense she wanted to get his attention, but she's George's daughter, not his jilted ex-girlfriend. Her feelings about Cindy are just as intense as those she has about George.

3) Casey killed Caylee because she wanted to hurt Cindy, not George. It was Cindy she fought with. George wasn't that involved with Caylee.

I'm not a psychologist per se, but I do have some background and that psychologist sounds like he's got an axe to grind, and is ignoring mainstream research regarding incest and abuse. Casey's behavior is consistent with a victim of incest and sexual abuse. In fact, you can probably put a date on it. When she lost interest in school, is probably right after the first incident. But I'm not sure whether it was George or Lee.

I think if the "jilted by George" scenario were true, she'd have killed Cindy and George, not Caylee. She may have wanted George's attention, but it's Tony that was on her mind when she killed Caylee.


Thanks for the great reply. Good discussion!
1. Serial killer on a small scale. Usually starts with animals, could be Casey watched at an early age and was inspired. The bedroom of the little girl was all trophies in a way, all over the whole room it was plastered with her. And maybe Casey dumped the trophy and got a tattoo as the trophy instead.

2. If Casey ran off with Jesse at the baby's birth then jilted George could have rebounded and had a crisis by leaving and spending all the money that he promised to Casey (not Cindy). Wonder if he came back to the house when Jesse and Casey split to try and reconcile the relationship?

3. If Casey wanted to hurt Cindy she would have done so by stealing her man George. That's the ultimate hurt. Then to concieve a child with that man is even more pain. Then when Cindy gets so attached to the child Casey kills the child to hurt her even more. All the while toying with George in a little secretive game. Casey was playing a game.

Mainstream incest might not apply here. Because it usually doesn't end up with murder, just runaways and behavior issues. So the twist could be a criminal element with underlying incest that surfaced only because of DNA testing.

Thanks. You have some interesting ideas here.

1) But she didn't think of those things as trophies--she didn't want to sleep in Caylee's room. Those are Caylee's things, not Casey's trophies.
I was wondering if she had like, dog collars or ears or tails of animals that she kept, or if maybe that wooded area was a place to stash both victims and trophies. Because if she is a serial killer type, she'd follow a pattern with all her victims. I'm inclined to think this is more a Diane Downing scenario. Downing was also a sociopath, yet she fit the profile.

2) I'm getting more and more surprised that Casey killed the baby instead of the parents, here. It's feasible, but something about it doesn't work for me. I do remember George saying he wanted to beat up Jesse or something like that.

3) I could see a girl playing a game, but it seems so random and pointless here. Especially since the man in question is her biological father. If it's true, then his part in the game is to exploit both mother and daughter and play them off against one another. I don't see the reason she'd hate Cindy that much before Caylee was born, though.  Ideas?

And if Cindy knew about it, she'd have thrown Casey out, because that's what women like her do when they find out their daughter has slept with their husband. (I think that's why this bugs me--because all too often ignorant women keep the man and lose the daughter, assuming that she seduced him. It's almost never true, even when the girl thinks it is.)

4) How does her obsession with Tony Lazarro fit into all this?


What if??  In the big fight between Cindy and Casey over Caylee on Father's day...the day where supposedly Cindy strangled Casey...that the reason Cindy strangled Casey was because Casey threw it in her face that Cindy would never get custody of Caylee because George is the father...what if Cindy only heard about George being the father on that day??  Just a theory...


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« Reply #1582 on: January 02, 2009, 06:25:50 PM »


Major Caylee Anthony Clue Could Be On Mystery Videotape

Friday, January 2, 2009 – updated: 6:10 pm EST January 2, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Brand new evidence could potentially tie Casey Anthony to her daughter's body. A mystery videotape of the crime scene, shot by one of the Anthonys' private investigators weeks before Caylee was found, reportedly shows their other private investigator on the phone. But who is he talking to?

That mystery caller could be a big clue that connects Casey to the crime scene.

Eyewitness News has learned the Anthonys' two private investigators came to the discovery scene on November 15 and 16, a Saturday and Sunday, possibly because they didn't find Caylee's remains right away.

Law enforcement is trying to find out whether inside information led them there.

Eyewitness News has learned that the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, is seen a month before the body was found on the November 15 videotape at the scene on the phone. California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who first sprung Casey out of jail, says he saw Dominic Casey on the videotape, because the person who shot it, private investigator Jim Hoover, showed it to him.

"He's standing there, or somebody's standing there, filming Dominic down the road and Dominic's on a cell phone, and you can see the fence, the signs on the left, the fence is there, everything is there," Padilla told Eyewitness News.

Finding out who Dominic Casey was talking to that day on the phone at the scene could be important to investigators in finding out whether inside information brought him and the other private eye to the area.

Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

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« Reply #1583 on: January 02, 2009, 06:25:58 PM »

Thanks, Trimm and JSM.  I should be picking up on things pretty quickly here.

Don't be sad, JSM.  You may be able to commiserate with me on Tuesday, depending on how the Tulsa/Ball State game goes.  Go TU!
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« Reply #1584 on: January 02, 2009, 06:26:33 PM »

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« Reply #1585 on: January 02, 2009, 06:27:00 PM »

Hmm, my forum searching skills aren't getting me far, but I'm new.  I'll keep trying.  At least I learned how to post quotes today.  Baby steps . . .
You will learn Blurry, I still screw up posts. Ask anyone. You are doing fine!
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« Reply #1586 on: January 02, 2009, 06:27:37 PM »

Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know

   Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???

  

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« Reply #1587 on: January 02, 2009, 06:27:56 PM »


Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-
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« Reply #1588 on: January 02, 2009, 06:28:00 PM »

Well, I want to know who the PI was on the phone with, I thought it was Joy per LP.
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« Reply #1589 on: January 02, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »


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Padilla told Eyewitness News that Hoover claims Dominic Casey told him on November 15 that Caylee's remains had been found and that the two of them were going to look for them. Dominic Casey told Eyewitness News on Friday he was talking to his ill daughter on the phone that day and insists he was only there to rule out a tip from one of Casey's friends.

Padilla said he asked Hoover about Dominic Casey's phone call.

"I even asked him, 'Who's he talking to?' He said, 'I don't know.' 'Could you hear what he was saying?' 'No, I couldn't hear.' He was 100 yards away," Padilla explained.

Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.
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« Reply #1590 on: January 02, 2009, 06:30:43 PM »


Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-
  (to either admit or deny the existence of such tape?) 
More spin. Press conference and we still will not know anything, because it will be, I can't answer this, and I can't answer that.
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« Reply #1591 on: January 02, 2009, 06:31:08 PM »

Rick already shared something very telling. He told us that his own niece pulled a train in December 2005.

This means either: a) he knew first-hand. b) He had the kind of relationship with Casey that she would tell him that, but not that she was pregant? c) for some reason the guys involved would tell this 50-year-old man about the good time they had with his niece...and he believed them.  d) Cindy told him. e) He made it up.

NONE of these things points to a healthy family here.  In fact, all of them point to a family where the men are just casually abusive of the women, and where the women lie to make the family seem normal while the men laugh about it.

For those who aren't sure what "pulled a train" means, it's having sex with one guy right after another.  Could be willingly or forced. 



      

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« Reply #1592 on: January 02, 2009, 06:31:32 PM »

Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know

   Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???

  

Uh-huh, and as long as you're here, they'll always have smartazzy to play with!!
 



 
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« Reply #1593 on: January 02, 2009, 06:32:36 PM »

Boo,

If you wouldn't mind directing me to that message or references to it, that would be great.  If not, ok too--I don't want to get pushy.  For some reason this has grabbed my attention.

Took me a few minutes to find it:

Dec 17, 2008 6:20 PM

RE: Picture question

Hello Janice! Please assure all involved that it is definitely NOT me. If it's the picture that appeared today I do not know who it is but the hug seems overly familiar and the look on George's face makes me wonder if that is the mysterious boyfriend she was living with before George came back in 2006.
The chances of Cindy hugging me at this point are slim to none times infinity! Smile
God bless,
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« Reply #1594 on: January 02, 2009, 06:32:48 PM »

I think Casey wanted to be free of the people who were burdening her and keeping her from enjoying the freedom she craved.  The main two people who did that, in her eyes, were Cindy and Caylee.  She told LE that Cindy put more pressure on her than anyone.  She told her friends that Cindy was controlling and tried to control her life.  Cindy clearly did not approve of the way Casey was raising Caylee.  Caylee was the tie that bound her to Cindy.  Caylee was also a burden who kept her from partying, getting all the guys she wanted, etc.  I think she planned to do away with Caylee first, and then if she got away with that, to go after Cindy.  Maybe she planned to do the opposite.  But the situation and pressures of being out on her own made her go for Caylee first. 

I'm so far behind but would just like to add my two cents for what it is worth.  I think that Casey killed Caylee and she had planned it for a while.  I think her motive(s) were 1) She wanted to hurt Cindy with such pain that she would never get over it; 2) She wanted to be the "victim" thereby getting sympathy and attention for as long as she could.  3) She hated Caylee for all the love and attention she got and finally (4) She wanted her freedom.  I don't know what order these would have fallen under but I do believe these were the motives.

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« Reply #1595 on: January 02, 2009, 06:32:59 PM »

Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


My son is the Marine. Yes we are very proud of him! He has been in for 2 years now and is a Corporal. Stationed in North Carolina. I dont have any tea, bread or cough meds but I did have pain killers. Slipped and fell on the ice the other day down 5 steps and bruised my tailbone. Its been a painful week! Thank you for the welcome!

Honestly, save a few of those pain killers for closer to the trial, you will most definitely need them.  In fact, you might need to share as I anticipate a lot of us are going to be in pain watching KC in action!!
Boo you are bad. I was thinking of going to the rink and trying a double axel before the trial. I broke my tailbone skating before, might as well do it again. They gave me better pain pills with the tailbone than my knee surgery!
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Both Dominic Casey and Padilla said Hoover claims to have recorded over most of the tape he shot at the scene, but Eyewitness News has learned that Hoover is planning a news conference for Monday.

<snipped> http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-
  (to either admit or deny the existence of such tape?) 
More spin. Press conference and we still will not know anything, because it will be, I can't answer this, and I can't answer that.

But I am already so very dizzy!!!
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« Reply #1597 on: January 02, 2009, 06:34:17 PM »

Boo,

If you wouldn't mind directing me to that message or references to it, that would be great.  If not, ok too--I don't want to get pushy.  For some reason this has grabbed my attention.

Took me a few minutes to find it:

Dec 17, 2008 6:20 PM

RE: Picture question

Hello Janice! Please assure all involved that it is definitely NOT me. If it's the picture that appeared today I do not know who it is but the hug seems overly familiar and the look on George's face makes me wonder if that is the mysterious boyfriend she was living with before George came back in 2006.
The chances of Cindy hugging me at this point are slim to none times infinity! Smile
God bless,
RJ

Thanks BOOB...I mean BOO!!!   Would someone please post that picture again!!
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« Reply #1598 on: January 02, 2009, 06:34:18 PM »

http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html


Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains



Sorry if this has already been posted! I just saw it!
Hi Marine Mom, what kind of doggy is that? It looks like a red heeler but my eyes are bad today. TIA


Chihuahua. He is a spoiled brat!
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« Reply #1599 on: January 02, 2009, 06:36:20 PM »

Hello Monkeys!!!! I am new here and this is my first post! I have been reading here for several weeks now and love the Monkey style! Look forward to chatting with all of you about this case!

Welcome MomofaMarine!! Well, good for you, you must be proud of your Marine! Son or daughter? I love the little guy on the steps, so cute!

Did you bring "tea"? Nanner bread? Cough medicine? All new monkeys sit next to me in the beginning since I'm the nicest one!! Watch out for Today, man she bites!! Sunny has multiple personalities too, so if you sit here I will tell you what to watch out for!


LOL...don't believe a word she says....she is on drugs....she calls it tea but we know

   Now now Sunny, be nice! Can you ask "Stormy" to come forward? Or maybe "Cloudy" would like to play on the board for a while???
Boo you are funny when you are sick.

PLEASE do not encourage her!  She just asked MoM for drugs!   
Sorry Sunny I was behind!
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