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« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2009, 08:12:43 PM »

Well as long as I'm logged in the picture is posted. As you can see a little higher up and I wouldn't have been inside the dome. Still there are no bad seats, except for that guy standing in front of me.
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« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2009, 08:42:35 PM »

Ok I went into the test section. Thanks None! So here it goes again!


Cool!  So I have to ask.. did you root for your Big 10 brethren or for Texas?     Loaded question huh...

I was at the Fiesta Bowl the year we beat the crap out of Florida (Tommy Frazier) and won the Natl Champ game.  My sis lives there.  My bro flew up from FL and the 3 of us went and had a blast.  We didn't have tickets til we got to Phoenix and boy did we luck out.  We got them for FACE value on the 45 yard line lower level from a season ticket holder who was ill.  L U C K.

Tomorrow night is the dance.  Who's everyone pulling for?

Course I have to go w/OK but I think it will be a close game.  As always, defense will win it.  And turnovers.  Why do they play this game mid week for crying out loud?

PDH... I am starting to get very worried about you.  Long time no see.  I hope you are OK.  Is your daughter doing better?  Let us know you are OK when you are up to it.  Hugs.
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« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2009, 08:49:27 PM »

Well as long as I'm logged in the picture is posted. As you can see a little higher up and I wouldn't have been inside the dome. Still there are no bad seats, except for that guy standing in front of me.

  you did it Kiwi ! Love the photo and we almost always have someone in front of us who's blocking our view don't we? 
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« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2009, 08:51:06 PM »

Bean I'm not picking sides for the game tomorrow night, don't want to jinx it 

I'm worried about pdh too, I'm going to send her an email tonight.
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« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2009, 10:59:19 PM »

PDH we miss you......

Well this game seemed to be a stand-off until the 3rd Q and Tebow appears to be a man on a mission but as we saw with our bowl game.......it ain't over yet.

we shall see........anyone else watching?
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« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2009, 07:51:56 AM »

Yes None I watched it.  It was actually a very close game.  Lots of talent on both sides of the ball.  Really have to question some of Stoops' play calling on the 2 failed TD drives.  I say the lost due to coaching.

HOWEVER I have to say that FL had 2 players that were the main difference.  What talent.

So season over.. guess it's time to talk recruiting and coaching shuffles huh. LOL
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« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2009, 10:26:14 AM »

Bean I agree, did you see Stoop's face during the last few minutes? It was almost painful to watch his expression. I agree Harvin and Tebow were stellar last night and it was a very close game, neck and neck for much of the game.

Sports Illustrated is now asking the question, I'm interested to see what ESPN says however, since they are the largest media outlet on the take with the BCS dollars......

here's the link to SI's piece on who deserves the nat'l championship

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/the_sweep/posts/39221-who-really-deserves-the-no-1-ranking?cnn=yes
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« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2009, 06:49:18 PM »

I'm already looking forward to next year!!!

That's because you guys ROCKED this year!  Did someone overturn that dang ruling so you can play for all the marbles next year?  Geez.  Hope so!!

As of right now the rules are the same!  I doubt they will change but we can hope.  Son felt good about the season so I am ok although it does not seem fair that they could not be the "official" Southland Conference champions.
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« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2009, 07:21:28 PM »

I'm already looking forward to next year!!!

That's because you guys ROCKED this year!  Did someone overturn that dang ruling so you can play for all the marbles next year?  Geez.  Hope so!!

As of right now the rules are the same!  I doubt they will change but we can hope.  Son felt good about the season so I am ok although it does not seem fair that they could not be the "official" Southland Conference champions.

OK... when you can I'd like the details of why they weren't champions again.  It just seems so unfair.  Can we help?   
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« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2009, 01:12:18 AM »

My son came by tonight before he goes back to school Monday.  Of course we talked a bit about football.  He said he had lost weight as he had not been in the weight room.  He is about 6 foot 3 and a skinny rail!  He had gained weight over the season but has lost since football season was over.  Wish I could be that dang skinny! haha  I have told him about all of my friends who root for him but I had never told him his nickname, speedy.  I told him tonight and he just grinned from ear to ear!  Y'all have made a good kid so pleased to know that strangers are rooting for him!  There are many lessons that I have tried to teach him but yall have given him such a good example of those lessons.  Thank you all for caring and I promise you that your caring and interest is not lost on him.  He is so pleased and grateful that people that do not know him are pulling for him to do a good job.  He is learning that love and caring has no boundaries!  It transcends race. school, area of the country, etc.  Thank you all for helping me to teach him some important life lessons!
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« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2009, 05:25:02 AM »

casa you must be so proud indeed. I wish speedy and nascar could meet. Son was called 'white boy' when he transferred and it was painful for him, but he just pushed through it to earn some respect through his effort and commitment. He's grinned everytime I told him about his monkey aunts and uncles cheering him on. It does matter doesn't it? For these boys to know that others want good things for them without ever wanting anything in return but for their success. I agree, these are life lessons that make them better men. I'm so glad you got to see him and he made time for his "momma".

Our banquet is tonight so I'll be traveling and the head coach called son into his office yesterday with something special for him - great validation for son and his long siege to make his mark. So God is good today.

I wish Peaches and Rick were here, they would both help us to celebrate.

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« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2009, 09:40:21 AM »

Ah Casa, that gave me chills.  Isn't it amazing how the little things can mean so much?  Sometimes we forget.  We adopt kids in this thread.    Whether they want us to or not.

None we are equally proud of Nascar.  Have fun at the banquet!!!

GO you'll appreciate this - Kevin C (our former DC under Callahan) has been named CO DC at Minnesota.  I am shocked a D1 school would give him a shot after what happened.  The HC is a former player of his I believe. Wish him well but I would suspect your team might be guaranteed some future wins from this move.
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« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2009, 12:00:01 AM »

Well it seems most had a better season than the Vols.   ::MonkeyConfused::I hope we can get things turned around.  Just pull for the YOUNG Lady Vols!
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« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2009, 03:52:24 PM »

Ah Casa, that gave me chills.  Isn't it amazing how the little things can mean so much?  Sometimes we forget.  We adopt kids in this thread.    Whether they want us to or not.

None we are equally proud of Nascar.  Have fun at the banquet!!!

GO you'll appreciate this - Kevin C (our former DC under Callahan) has been named CO DC at Minnesota.  I am shocked a D1 school would give him a shot after what happened.  The HC is a former player of his I believe. Wish him well but I would suspect your team might be guaranteed some future wins from this move.

Interesting..... I doubt we are going to have many wins next year if we can't find a QB.  PJ Hill is not coming back for his senior year which sort of reflects the status of the program.  We will not be short of runningbacks.  Those we always seem to be able to recruit.
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« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2009, 03:56:38 PM »


Cold is Relative……….and a good part of this is true

60 above zero:Floridians turn on the heat. People in Wisconsin plant gardens.

50 above zero:Gulf Coast people shiver uncontrollably. People in Milwaukee sunbathe.

40 above zero:English cars won’t start. People in Wisconsin drive with the windows down.

32 above zero:Distilled water freezes.The water in Green Bay gets thicker.

20 above zero:Floridians don coats, thermal underwear, gloves, and wool hats. People in Wisconsin throw on a flannel shirt.

15 above zero:New York landlords finally turn up the heat. People in Wisconsin have the last cookout before it gets cold.

Zero:People in Miami all die. Wisconsinites close the windows.

10 below zero:Californians fly away to Mexico. People in Wisconsin get out their winter coats.

25 below zero:Hollywood disintegrates. The Girl Scouts in Wisconsin are selling cookies……….door to door.

40 below zero:Washington DC runs out of hot air. People in Wisconsin let the dogs sleep indoors.

100 below zero:Santa Claus abandons the North Pole. Wisconsinites get upset because they can’t start the Mini-Van.

460 (-459.67 F below zero):ALL atomic motion stops (absolute zero, zero on the Kelvin scale.) People in Wisconsin start saying…”Cold ’nuff fer ya?”




 
When it’s winter in Wisconsin

And the gentle breezes blow,

About seventy miles and hour

And it’s fifty-two below,

You can tell you’re in Wisconsin

‘Cause the snow’s up to your butt.

You take a breath of winter air

And your nostrils both freeze shut.

The weather here is wonderful,

So I guess I’ll hang around,

I could never leave Wisconsin

My feet are frozen to the ground!

 
Have a great weekend!
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« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2009, 10:56:58 AM »

Casa and None- Yes we have some great young men there! We do appreciate the connection and pull for them every chance we get. I hope to see more of them in the coming seasons.
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« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2009, 12:40:52 PM »


Cold is Relative……….and a good part of this is true

60 above zero:Floridians turn on the heat. People in Wisconsin plant gardens.

50 above zero:Gulf Coast people shiver uncontrollably. People in Milwaukee sunbathe.

40 above zero:English cars won’t start. People in Wisconsin drive with the windows down.

32 above zero:Distilled water freezes.The water in Green Bay gets thicker.

20 above zero:Floridians don coats, thermal underwear, gloves, and wool hats. People in Wisconsin throw on a flannel shirt.

15 above zero:New York landlords finally turn up the heat. People in Wisconsin have the last cookout before it gets cold.

Zero:People in Miami all die. Wisconsinites close the windows.

10 below zero:Californians fly away to Mexico. People in Wisconsin get out their winter coats.

25 below zero:Hollywood disintegrates. The Girl Scouts in Wisconsin are selling cookies……….door to door.

40 below zero:Washington DC runs out of hot air. People in Wisconsin let the dogs sleep indoors.

100 below zero:Santa Claus abandons the North Pole. Wisconsinites get upset because they can’t start the Mini-Van.

460 (-459.67 F below zero):ALL atomic motion stops (absolute zero, zero on the Kelvin scale.) People in Wisconsin start saying…”Cold ’nuff fer ya?”




 
When it’s winter in Wisconsin

And the gentle breezes blow,

About seventy miles and hour

And it’s fifty-two below,

You can tell you’re in Wisconsin

‘Cause the snow’s up to your butt.

You take a breath of winter air

And your nostrils both freeze shut.

The weather here is wonderful,

So I guess I’ll hang around,

I could never leave Wisconsin

My feet are frozen to the ground!

 
Have a great weekend!


 

btw -- we would NEVER make it to zero here in Miami. 20 would kill us    We consider 76 a 'cold front'. 
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« Reply #77 on: January 12, 2009, 02:21:27 PM »

GO I could never live up your way... where I am is plenty cold and snowy.  We are having yet another snow storm today... I didn't know it was forecasted.  Didn't bring my gloves dang it.  Roads were icy again this a.m.  This is getting old.  Please come spring!!!
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« Reply #78 on: January 12, 2009, 06:54:06 PM »

Well the Cardinals come back to Phoenix this weekend to play the Eagle's. Win or lose they had a fine season. Too bad it will be 72 deg in the stadium with the roof on, or off and no chance of snow or rain. All though there are those that feel its not a real game unless its below zero and snowing. There are times that I enjoy watching a game without the elements deciding like a flip of a coin.
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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2009, 03:14:26 PM »

GO should we chip in for a snow blower for you?

pdh I am worried, please email me or post so we'll know you're okay!

kiwi - thank you, I really appreciate all the support from the monkey uncles and aunts as does son

A friend at work who is a manic Tebow fan pinged this link to me a short while ago, don't have time to read it in detail due to work but skimmed it and wanted to post it for others, it looks interesting. Leave it to Tebow to change the complexion of the NFL....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/tim_layden/01/13/tebow/index.html?bcnn=yes

Tim Layden > INSIDE THE NFL

The Tebow experiment is inevitable

Nice of Tim Tebow to end the suspense early. But the debate on his future will continue unabated, and not just on blog posts and sports talk radio.

This debate has nothing to do with his place in college football history or fast-tracking his path to sainthood. Without taking another snap for the Gators, Tebow is already on the short list of the best to play the college game.

The commentary on his impeccable character is tiresome, but Tebow has already won a Heisman Trophy and two national championships. (If not for some very sketchy voting patterns this year, he would have two Heismans.) He could leave Gainesville next spring with two statues and three national titles, which would be unprecedented. I have no idea if he is a better college player than Doc Blanchard, but he's in the team picture.

Yet there is a far more intriguing argument on the table: Where does Tebow fit in the NFL? Does he fit in the NFL at all? I won't pretend to know the answer but I can guarantee there is no shortage of NFL executives and coaches dying to find out. And anybody who dismisses Tebow on the grounds he's just another college athlete who can't play the NFL game is on a different page from the people who will decide his football future.

In November I wrote a story about the re-emergence of single wing-based formations and plays -- a.k.a. the "Wildcat'' -- in the NFL and college football. Tebow's name kept coming up, and without provocation. Example: When I spoke with Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator (and former Miami Dolphins head coach) Cam Cameron, he was talking about playing in the NFL with a full-time single wing-style quarterback. He expressed skepticism and then added, "Maybe Tebow can do it.''

I hadn't asked him about Tebow. But he mentioned Tebow just the same. Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Chan Gailey, who has been a head coach in both the NFL (Dallas Cowboys) and college (Georgia Tech), did the same thing. And so did Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, who introduced Tebow into our interview by saying, "Tebow, obviously, is a special one.''

The NFL is fascinated with Tebow because he represents a potential evolutionary step in offensive professional football. (Emphasis here on potential because it's all a guessing game at this point.)

Belichick says, "To win in the NFL you have to be able to throw the ball.'' And that is unquestioned. However, the complexity and athleticism of NFL defenses challenge the passing game in such ways that smart offensive minds are constantly trying to find a means to make the quarterback a more effective and dangerous player. They all would love to find a quarterback who is a threat to pass or run on every snap. All of them.

The option game has been a staple of college football for decades, whether in the Oklahoma T-formation under Bud Wilkinson in the 1950s or the Texas and Oklahoma wishbones in the 70s or the Vince Young/Pat White zone-read option in this decade. Yet the option has never translated to the NFL on the theory that professional defenses are too fast and too physical. Option reads would be ineffective because NFL players would overwhelm it with speed. And the quarterback would get mauled.

Slowly, however, rigid old rules are loosening. There is no movement afoot to install the Air Force flexbone in the NFL, but there is absolutely an interest in using option principles to complicate defensive preparation. "Somebody, someday is going to run the option in the NFL,'' says Gailey, "and when that happens, all bets are off.''

For now, the goal is more modest. Gradually, over the past several seasons -- culminating in the Miami Wildcat -- NFL teams have experimented with direct snaps to a single wing-style tailback. (With the Dolphins, that was Ronnie Brown). This forces the defense to account for an extra player as a potential ballcarrier and reduces the number of bodies they can commit to the box.

If that player is a threat to pass, the game is fundamentally changed.

Michael Vick proved himself a dangerous runner in the NFL. But he was never a consistently accurate thrower. Likewise Vince Young, albeit with a lesser body of work. Long before either of them, Randall Cunningham was an effective thrower and a dangerous scrambler, but with few designed running plays. The truth is the NFL has never had a player who can consistently threaten defenses equally with his arm and his feet. And the NFL collectively wonders if Tebow is that guy.

As I quoted Belichick in the Dec. 1 issue of Sports Illustrated, "It's going to be very interesting to see what happens when Tebow comes into this league. There aren't many players who can run and throw.''

Yet at lower levels of the game, dual-threat quarterbacks are becoming the norm. In youth and high school games, teams are running spread offenses with zone reads and quarterback off-tackle runs. It's remarkable that Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan were so successful in the NFL as rookies this year, and they are both traditional pocket quarterbacks in the mold of Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. But as Belichick says, "There's a lot of interest in what you could do with a real athlete back there, like an Elway, with his ability to run the ball.''

Said Gailey in SI, "Over the next 10 or 15 years, it's going to evolve because the runner-thrower is the kind of quarterback the college game is producing now.''

Tebow is the prototype of that quarterback. At 6-foot-2½, 238 pounds, he is big, strong and relatively fast. (Not Vick fast, but not Manning slow, either). He has the girth and toughness to withstand hits, although probably not a full season's worth of NFL hits. ("Look at how short the careers are for running backs in the NFL,'' says Belichick.). As a passer, Tebow is no Ryan, but he is a far more accurate thrower than Vick or Young.

The challenge for NFL thinkers is how best to use Tebow. Can he be a full-time quarterback? (Not likely, unless he is re-made as a pocket passer). How many times can he carry the ball, making himself a threat without getting, as Belichick says, "broken in half?'' (Maybe 10 times a week? Maybe only five?). Can an NFL offense function effectively with two quarterbacks. Say, Tyler Thigpen for 40 snaps and Tim Tebow for 20? What would this do to your salary structure? Is a Super Bowl worth paying two quarterbacks NFL-starter money?

No answers here. Not yet. But know this: The questions are being asked by the people who write the checks. The Tebow Experiment is forestalled for a year, but it will absolutely take place.


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