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« Reply #140 on: January 02, 2009, 08:24:37 AM »

Kermit

7A Catiri

Here are some of many posts referencing 7A Catiri. Kermit posts that this is Freddy Zedan's address. She also posts that Frederick Arends is Freddy Zedan's father.



Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
« Reply #2765 on: February 26, 2008, 07:17:21 PM » Kermit 



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T. J. Ward stated that Freddy lives behind Joran.
http://www.immob.biz/afdrukken.php?id=927〈=NL

http://www.arubachamber.com/DISKKLEINBEDRIJF31JULI2004.htm
The picture of Freddy's house, the address for the pic is 39F
but that is his mom's address on the chamber list for 2004.
Her address on the list as of 05/06/05 is Montanja 62.


19 Montanja Joran van der Sloot
232 Montanja Jaime Carrasquilla
7A Catiri Freddy Zedan Arambatziz

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg355900#msg355900

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #1724 on: April 09, 2008, 01:34:44 PM » Kermit
 

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LaLa,

THINKING ABOUT THAT CATIRI APARTMENT:


MARTINA, Karen Theresa Paulina   – Allegedly was in porn video taped by Freddy.  Joran admits to having sex with her multiple times.  Was named by JQK as a date rape victim of Joran, but Tacopina claims she has said it was consensual


"I took the camera to Freddy’s house.
We delivered the camera to Freddy, and afterwards all four of us ate Chinese in the area of Freddy’s house. Freddy also lives in Montanja." (Satish Kalpoe Suspect Statement June 24, 2005.)

Name: Karen Martina
Date: 23 June 2005113:55
Pages: 6
Writer/Initiator: Dennis Jacobs / Juan Boezem
Description: witness statement by a friend of Van der Sloot and Arrambatzis

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg372441#msg372441

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #290 on: April 19, 2008, 12:25:24 AM » Kermit


CAPS,

Atan Lee's residence
converted to “ The Silvia Residence.”
the beautiful home of Arubas former Chief of Protocol, Mr. Atan Lee.

The Lee’s family invites guests to their home in Catiri,

During these decades the coordination of these pageants passed through different organizers however since 1992 Star Promotion, founded by Mr. Atan Lee

Remember I said I think that Knockout Model Agency is a front for something else.
And these pageants seem to have the hoteliers and Chief of Protocol involved.

DVDLand & CD,
Catiri 7-A
Noord
Aruba
It's about 5 minutes from the high rise hotels



from the Bug Tour that leads to Atan Lee House there is this Rental House
which is located in the Malmok area on L.G Smith Blvd., one mile from the high-rise hotels.


Now add to this:
Satish took a camera to Freddy
Joran said in his book they would get a room to have sex and videotape girls.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg375066#msg375066


Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 07:23:00 PM » Kermit 


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old info from my files, don't know if it is of any use for ya'll


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http://www.planethuff.com/darkside/archives/cat_the_vanishing_of_natalee_holloway.html
Official Charges on Freddy:
Intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor
Intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious

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http://www.planethuff.com/darkside/archives/cat_the_vanishing_of_natalee_holloway.html


Geraldo: Tell me about the young woman

Helen: She is a minor, so I won’t say anything about her. She has been involved in whatever the young man is being accused of right now sexual harassment..assault, whatever you want to call it. She is not the only one, the news we are getting right now is there are sex films and they have been selling them. I think it is a little bigger than even we expect as far as information I am getting right now.

Geraldo: Helen, do you know whether the authorities have seized the DVDs?

Helen: I don’t know that, they do have something, otherwise they would not have made these charges
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/08/28/transcripts-from-geraldo-sat-night-official-charges-against-freddie/
http://www.exposetheleft.com/2005/08/28/helenvinda/

Here is a fox news story about Freddy Arambatzis, note that photos are mentioned and not video. the girl was a minor, and I heard several comments about a video tape being sold around their circle of friends of this girl. Tickle site is down, he was locoman pimp.
http://tinyurl.com/gb627
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/04/28/aruba-natalee-holloway-comment-post-26/#comments

Simian Says:
June 29th, 2005 at 4:18 pm
4:29 post
JVDS and Kalpoes are involved in prostitution/drugs ring themselves, not just getting dope from the dealers



Sillymonkey Freddy and Jaime were listed on Joran's sites as his "best friends." Jaime is the one who some of the MB kids emailed after. When they asked about Natalee, he unleased a bunch of vile garbage and said she got what she deserved. I think the kids then read him the riot act and passed his emails along to the FBI.

Jamie is Columbian
Freddy is Venezulean

Frederick Jacinthus Arends of DVD Land & CD is his father?

The picture of Freddy's house, I know the address for the pic is 39F
but that is his mom's address on the chamber list for 2004.
Her address on the list as of 05/06/05 is Montanja 62.
So where was he residing when Natalee went missing and where does he currently live?


Arambatzis
ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT     LILIAN REGINA     MONTANJA     39-F
http://www.arubachamber.com/DISKKLEINBEDRIJF31JULI2004.htm


#39-F Montana (Montanja), Noord

Freddy’s house:
7A Catiri (apartment)


MOm's address is: 62 Montana is ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ address in NOORD

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-backroom/1471591/posts

http://www.immob.biz/?p=alles&id=927&lang=NL
http://www.google.com/search?q=ARAMBATZIS+aruba&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-33,GGLG:en&tab=nw&ie=UTF-8&sa=N

T. J. Ward stated that Freddy lives behind Joran.

Adres: Montana 39F en 39G
MONTANA, ARUBA (ARUBA) Vraagprijs: € 221.000

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg386608;topicseen#msg386608


Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 05:46:58 PM » Kermit 


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"I took the camera to Freddy’s house.
We delivered the camera to Freddy, and afterwards all four of us ate Chinese in the area of Freddy’s house. Freddy also lives in Montanja." (Satish Kalpoe Suspect Statement June 24, 2005.)

Zedan Arambatzis – age 21 in 2005
Joran met Freddy Zedan Arambatzis when Freddy was 19, they met during a tournament at the racquetball club. (source:p. 1 Jorans book)
Freddy is a light colored latino from Venezuela that only spoke papi. (source: p. 1 Joran's book)
Freddy's English sucked (source p. 5 Joran's book)
I am the best friend and neighbor of Joran. We got to know each other about two years ago.(source: June 12 Freddy's statement as written in Joran's book)
Freddy lives behind Joran.( D-6/11)

19 Montanja Joran van der Sloot
232 Montanja Jaime Carrasquilla
7A Catiri Freddy Zedan Arambatziz

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg386884#msg386884

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
« Reply #400 on: June 25, 2008, 06:38:31 AM » Lalas 


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Freddy, Freddy, Freddy...I think the Montanja address was more his mother's address than his. Kermit keeps leading us to the Catiri address anytime we venture to the Montanja address.   I may not have very good instincts about Shango but Kermit is usually right on target when he says something.  Freddy was supposed to be at Joran's that night.  The only reason he would have been there was to make a video.  Freddy was way too old to be having a sleepover with Joran...unless sleeping with someone was involved. JMO

Right Mum!

Simian protects Steve.
Shango protects Freddy.
Now put it together and you have your answers. Albeit, that involves a whole host of other people down the line.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg393231#msg393231

Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #4
« Reply #398 on: June 25, 2008, 05:48:34 AM » Finngirl


so what happened to Freddy's Montanja 39-F addy ...
listed in the buki di during august 2005?

sometimes I feel like someone has re-arranged the furniture
while I was sleeping and I wake up/head for the light switch
and stumble into something that wasn't in the way last night

we had real estate/for sale photos at one time
showing the Montanja townhouses numbered 39A thru G or H

couldn't find/didn't want to find: two different things

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2886.msg393222;topicseen#msg393222


Kermit...You do remember where this all led, don't you? Pages of discussions on DVDLand, Freddy Zedan, Frederick Arends culminating in a revelation by Caps?

Kermit...You planted this seed.

Now please show me the connection of Freddy Zedan to Frederick Arends. I want back up. I want proof. I want absolutely no questions left that Frederick Arends is Freddy Zedan's father, otherwise all you have is speculation.



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« Reply #141 on: January 02, 2009, 08:31:48 AM »

Thank You Bastibro...I will and You do the same.
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« Reply #142 on: January 02, 2009, 08:49:40 AM »


blonde:

when you come back
could you post the photo of finbar
w/ his bro?

IIRC fin is the good-looking one

(tried search function but couldn't find photo)

TIA



Finngirl I miss his so much.
He use to make me laugh so hard.
Remember he the good looking one, in this picture.


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« Reply #143 on: January 02, 2009, 09:16:33 AM »

Please Caps, I WANT to understand. Are you saying there were 2 different traps? Are you saying that what Tim Miller saw on the 29th was different than what was retrieved on Jan. 7th? Are you saying that evidence was found in the pond FIRST -- then moved to the cage(s)?
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« Reply #144 on: January 02, 2009, 09:52:39 AM »

Thank you Caps.
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« Reply #145 on: January 02, 2009, 10:03:15 AM »

The largest "poster vs. poster" issue has been to "call out" Kermit.

What is wrong with just posting info, if it is different than what has been posted? 

I read Kermit posting Kyle's words.  If Kyle posted other words or different words, than just post those.

There may be good and differing opinions.  It is hard to get to them because instead of the "ideas" being posted, there is accusations regarding the "person" posting the idea.

A post about setar vs. digicel is interesting.  The psychological analysis of the original post is distasteful.  That is the poster vs. poster issue.  The posting of quotes and statements is not poster vs. poster.  If the problem is Kyle or Silvetti, just post something they said that contradicts the quotes posted.

I have been here a long time. Please give some credit.  I don't know of many here that would just believe what was said simply because of who said it. It isn't Kermit wins, you lose. 

I agree Buckeye.  It is not like most of us had not had serious questions of what was going on with the crew of the Persistence when this was all unraveling.  It was all a "WTF" moment with how it all came down and we were left standing with our mouths wide open.  Kyle's silence in all of this says it all to me.  I have lots of questions for a lot of people and right now they are not giving out answers.  Imagine what Natalee's family is questioning right now.  Their daughter is gone and now it appears the last change to bring her back has been lost.  It should NOT have gone down that way. (JMO)
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« Reply #146 on: January 02, 2009, 10:09:43 AM »

Isn't it tomorrow that JQK and Hero Brinkman and Greta are
to descend on Aruba?

the Dutch Members of Parliament (including Brinkman) are travelling first to Curaçao today (January 2nd).

then on to Aruba, with meetings from January 5th until January 9th.
on January 11th they travel back to The Netherlands.
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« Reply #147 on: January 02, 2009, 10:11:19 AM »

Isn't it tomorrow that JQK and Hero Brinkman and Greta are
to descend on Aruba?

the Dutch Members of Parliament (including Brinkman) are travelling first to Curaçao today (January 2nd).

then on to Aruba, with meetings from January 5th until January 9th.
on January 11th they travel back to The Netherlands.

Caesu, what is Hero's agenda in Aruba?  We are thinking John Q. Kelly/Greta-Fox News will be in Aruba with him.  Thanks.
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« Reply #148 on: January 02, 2009, 10:15:45 AM »

The largest "poster vs. poster" issue has been to "call out" Kermit.

What is wrong with just posting info, if it is different than what has been posted? 

I read Kermit posting Kyle's words.  If Kyle posted other words or different words, than just post those.

There may be good and differing opinions.  It is hard to get to them because instead of the "ideas" being posted, there is accusations regarding the "person" posting the idea.


A post about setar vs. digicel is interesting.  The psychological analysis of the original post is distasteful.  That is the poster vs. poster issue.  The posting of quotes and statements is not poster vs. poster.  If the problem is Kyle or Silvetti, just post something they said that contradicts the quotes posted.

I have been here a long time. Please give some credit.  I don't know of many here that would just believe what was said simply because of who said it. It isn't Kermit wins, you lose. 

I agree Buckeye.  There is nothing wrong with different opinions.  We can't all agree that just isn't going to happen.  All we can do is read what a poster has given us and come to our own conclusion.

A particular poster chose to post on two different boards.  This has caused a tremendous amount of doubt with what he said.  His words are being compared to what he wrote and said on both sites.  So now in our minds we are trying to sort it out and see what the truth is.

We would have never known what he said if Kermit didn't bring that information here to show everyone.

So until I see further proof of what he said is being manipulated to fit someone agenda then I will have to say I still stand with the frog.

Is that such a bad thing to do.  Some think he is wrong and some think he is right.  Let the chips fall where they may and when the dust clears let's see who is still standing.
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« Reply #149 on: January 02, 2009, 10:16:33 AM »

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« Reply #150 on: January 02, 2009, 10:47:30 AM »

Isn't it tomorrow that JQK and Hero Brinkman and Greta are
to descend on Aruba?

the Dutch Members of Parliament (including Brinkman) are travelling first to Curaçao today (January 2nd).

then on to Aruba, with meetings from January 5th until January 9th.
on January 11th they travel back to The Netherlands.

Caesu, what is Hero's agenda in Aruba?  We are thinking John Q. Kelly/Greta-Fox News will be in Aruba with him.  Thanks.

i hope that's the case, but i don't know.

Aruba sure hasn't forgotten that Brinkman called them 'as corrupt as hell' on FOX last month.
so i expect some fireworks when Brinkman arrives on Aruba on or before January 5th.
when that gets media attention Brinkman can use that to stir things up even more.
if he does that together with JQK/Greta the effect will be even greater.

it's great opportunity for a lot of (international) media attention.
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« Reply #151 on: January 02, 2009, 10:48:56 AM »

Beth Holloway's brother recognized early on that the Aruban connection implies that the Persistence undertaking would come to naught in regards to justice for Natalee Holloway and closure for her family.

Janet

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #686 on: March 13, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »


Unfortunately, those trusted with the evidence of the investigation were not good stewards of the evidence. Evidence has been destroyed, search activities delayed with no site protection accomplished by the authorities, and interrogations have been stopped at key points and the person being interrogated allowed to be counseled by parents and attorneys, and interrogations have been stopped just short of key questions being asked when the flow of good information was beginning to come out.

Prisoners being isolated have been furnished cell phones and communication has been allowed to occur between locked up and the free.

Do I think psychics are the answer? No.

But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine. What kills this investigation is people having to come into it, wanting to apply basic investigatory protocols into place, and then having those channels sabotage the new evidence that the new players discover. Of course, as is happened everytime in this case, the new people eventually come to a point where the manipulation of the evidence is undeniable, but by then the fruits of their work are gone, and there is simply another member of the believers of the cover up group. What I pray that Kyle and the crew of the Persistence will determine, is that  regardless of how hard working the man that they are working with appears to work, his work belongs to Rudy, and Rudy belongs to the local dutch.

We are not hysterical, ignorant, paranoid people. We have seen the cover up in action, in broad daylight, with impunity, and if you disregard our warnings, you will become the next chump in a series of chumps, no matter how sophisticated your equipment, the level of your educational achievement, or the extent of your job skills and work history.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750


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« Reply #767 on: March 14, 2008, 01:07:35 AM »


PI ... those who are on a quest for the truth regarding what happened to Natalee Holloway should read Dave Holloway's book "Corruption in Paradise" and Beth Holloway's book "Loving Natalee" prior to being deceived that "Aruban authories" are about to assist them in their quest.

Janet

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364881#msg364881


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« Reply #152 on: January 02, 2009, 10:51:49 AM »

Isn't it tomorrow that JQK and Hero Brinkman and Greta are
to descend on Aruba?

the Dutch Members of Parliament (including Brinkman) are travelling first to Curaçao today (January 2nd).

then on to Aruba, with meetings from January 5th until January 9th.
on January 11th they travel back to The Netherlands.

Caesu, what is Hero's agenda in Aruba?  We are thinking John Q. Kelly/Greta-Fox News will be in Aruba with him.  Thanks.

i hope that's the case, but i don't know.

Aruba sure hasn't forgotten that Brinkman called them 'as corrupt as hell' on FOX last month.
so i expect some fireworks when Brinkman arrives on Aruba on or before January 5th.
when that gets media attention Brinkman can use that to stir things up even more.
if he does that together with JQK/Greta the effect will be even greater.

it's great opportunity for a lot of (international) media attention.

I agree about international media attention.  That would be great.  Everyone needs a hero, I hope Hero is Natalee's hero.  She and her family need one.
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« Reply #153 on: January 02, 2009, 11:07:54 AM »

Beth Holloway's brother recognized early on that the Aruban connection implies that the Persistence undertaking would come to naught in regards to justice for Natalee Holloway and closure for her family.

Janet

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #686 on: March 13, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »


Unfortunately, those trusted with the evidence of the investigation were not good stewards of the evidence. Evidence has been destroyed, search activities delayed with no site protection accomplished by the authorities, and interrogations have been stopped at key points and the person being interrogated allowed to be counseled by parents and attorneys, and interrogations have been stopped just short of key questions being asked when the flow of good information was beginning to come out.

Prisoners being isolated have been furnished cell phones and communication has been allowed to occur between locked up and the free.

Do I think psychics are the answer? No.

But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine. What kills this investigation is people having to come into it, wanting to apply basic investigatory protocols into place, and then having those channels sabotage the new evidence that the new players discover. Of course, as is happened everytime in this case, the new people eventually come to a point where the manipulation of the evidence is undeniable, but by then the fruits of their work are gone, and there is simply another member of the believers of the cover up group. What I pray that Kyle and the crew of the Persistence will determine, is that  regardless of how hard working the man that they are working with appears to work, his work belongs to Rudy, and Rudy belongs to the local dutch.

We are not hysterical, ignorant, paranoid people. We have seen the cover up in action, in broad daylight, with impunity, and if you disregard our warnings, you will become the next chump in a series of chumps, no matter how sophisticated your equipment, the level of your educational achievement, or the extent of your job skills and work history.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364750#msg364750


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 -
« Reply #767 on: March 14, 2008, 01:07:35 AM »


PI ... those who are on a quest for the truth regarding what happened to Natalee Holloway should read Dave Holloway's book "Corruption in Paradise" and Beth Holloway's book "Loving Natalee" prior to being deceived that "Aruban authories" are about to assist them in their quest.

Janet

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2689.msg364881#msg364881




Tomikosmom Thank you for bringing this over again.  Anyone who doubts what was going on in the search of the Persistence needs to read the words of PI again.  I think he states it quite clearly.  And anyone who thinks they are in the know, maybe you are and maybe you are not, but I believe that the family knows more.

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« Reply #154 on: January 02, 2009, 11:10:09 AM »


Hi Caps.  Got anything to add regarding Kyle or John Silvetti?  Clyde Burke?  Jossy Mansur?  Eduardo Mansur? 

 



The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.  It has been almost 4 years and it looks like it is no closer to being solved-We do feel we know who is corrupt.

Just watch this week for the arrest of a major player of the game...and probably a big strike in the making and uproar in the house of Babylon. Believe me I will be watching.  Hope you are right on this one.

Question: how many years did the USA took to get Gotti Convicted.? Natalee was an American girl only on her high school graduation, not a Mob boss. This is a simple crime by simple Pimps who had help from people in the government of Aruba. Nothing more, nothing less.

So like a said: in colombia they call those that make information up to confuse the issues of this case a SAPO.

How can we hunt for lions while those on this net is working against the work at hand. Watch a movie is not like reading the book of the movie. Natalee's story HAS to stay in the minds of the American people or she will fade away and we DO NOT want that to happen

In the state the only thing that can be done right now is to pray...since those that scream the loudest are not in the field...but is try to confuse the world.

Things has happend but like I said before. A Sapo war is a lost war....  What is a Sapo war? clarification please

Remeber 911 ....the first attempt was that the basement, but then the media did give a whole information on how the building was done and how strong it was and where the weakest link were.....where is it now...

if we want to win we have to investigate and not pointing finger to those that are at work...

What ever kyle did and the OE did, I do not know, I was not there. I work alone with a group that can not be put at risk  Hotshot put you in touch with Kyle, WHY?

What I hate the most of this site now is the way the information is twisted, but it is the same method that was use by those that made Natalee desapear, they twist the info.

If anyone to work on the case work on the case. but all that was said is said, we are not working in the future but with info that has been twisted in 2005 and need to be put back straight...

Investigate, but never assume and make thing up or cut and paste and reassamble what people said to proof your own view without knowing the real context in which that particular text was written or no even knowing what was the question to the origin of the text.  Asking questions will only get answers if people are willing to do it.

Every event in 2005 had a flow and when the truth is change, we allways will have a paradox. and I see it happend here in this forum also or should I call it SM Paradox.

Peter devries tried to put in in a movie but it does not compute, and so a lot is trying to assamble the story.

Read again what I say, how can you hunt lions without a local guide. and put your own magination those all that has tried to build a picture of this case;

and jumb the gun for some momement of sensation, they do not know the real truth, but they do not sit everyday in aruba and continue with the work at hand...all take carefully planning, and all seems to forget one thing, and that is in the question above...to know who (the corrupt Babylons) takes time, but go to war without knowing them is suicidal to all.

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« Reply #155 on: January 02, 2009, 11:12:10 AM »

The largest "poster vs. poster" issue has been to "call out" Kermit.

What is wrong with just posting info, if it is different than what has been posted? 

I read Kermit posting Kyle's words.  If Kyle posted other words or different words, than just post those.

There may be good and differing opinions.  It is hard to get to them because instead of the "ideas" being posted, there is accusations regarding the "person" posting the idea.


A post about setar vs. digicel is interesting.  The psychological analysis of the original post is distasteful.  That is the poster vs. poster issue.  The posting of quotes and statements is not poster vs. poster.  If the problem is Kyle or Silvetti, just post something they said that contradicts the quotes posted.

I have been here a long time. Please give some credit.  I don't know of many here that would just believe what was said simply because of who said it. It isn't Kermit wins, you lose. 

I agree Buckeye.  There is nothing wrong with different opinions.  We can't all agree that just isn't going to happen.  All we can do is read what a poster has given us and come to our own conclusion.

A particular poster chose to post on two different boards.  This has caused a tremendous amount of doubt with what he said.  His words are being compared to what he wrote and said on both sites.  So now in our minds we are trying to sort it out and see what the truth is.

We would have never known what he said if Kermit didn't bring that information here to show everyone.

So until I see further proof of what he said is being manipulated to fit someone agenda then I will have to say I still stand with the frog.

Is that such a bad thing to do.  Some think he is wrong and some think he is right.  Let the chips fall where they may and when the dust clears let's see who is still standing.

Sorry for the quote stacks but these two posts say it all in my opinion. 

Thank You. 

 
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« Reply #156 on: January 02, 2009, 11:13:59 AM »

Please Caps, I WANT to understand. Are you saying there were 2 different traps? Are you saying that what Tim Miller saw on the 29th was different than what was retrieved on Jan. 7th? Are you saying that evidence was found in the pond FIRST -- then moved to the cage(s)?
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« Reply #157 on: January 02, 2009, 11:18:31 AM »

Please Caps, I WANT to understand. Are you saying there were 2 different traps? Are you saying that what Tim Miller saw on the 29th was different than what was retrieved on Jan. 7th? Are you saying that evidence was found in the pond FIRST -- then moved to the cage(s)?
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Sorry but I think he is telling us to BUTT out and mind our own business and Kermit doesn't know what she is talking about.  Riddles at this point does not intrigue me anymore.  Get on with it or butt out.  4 years is too long to give any government/police a change to get it right.  Simple crime, it should have been solved from the very beginning. Give Natalee's body back to her family for a proper burial and do what they need to do to solve this crime AFTER returning her.  Quit holding her hostage.  It is time for her to come home.
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« Reply #158 on: January 02, 2009, 11:18:34 AM »


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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on Today at 02:17:45 AM

Just watch this week for the arrest of a major player of the game...and probably a big strike in the making and uproar in the house of Babylon. Believe me I will be watching.  Hope you are right on this one.


Yes, we will be watching.  There have been so many things promised that never materialized, I hope that this happens.  If it doesn't, do we deserve an explanation as to why it didn't or what happened? 

I, for one, am waiting.


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« Reply #159 on: January 02, 2009, 11:18:35 AM »

Kermit...another thing...You have succeeded in pitting poster against poster.

Those that are for you and those of us that don't see things your way have an Agenda.

There has been nastiness in this cage that I would never have believed I would see.

Kermit...From what I see you are posting Your Opinions...You are entitled to them.

I do Not see things the way you do and I have formed my own opinions.

I have questioned your posts and pointed out your mistakes. I have every right to do this. None of us is right all the time, we all make mistakes. Except Kermit it seems.

 Keepthefaith...I believe I answered your question.

Have a Good Day Everyone...

I gotta start getting up earlier.
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