Natalee Case Discussion #789 1/1/09 - 1/3/09

[ldstlou]

LDSTLOU - if Joran van der Sloot emailed me and confessed to Natalee dying and his disposing of her body, would it bother you if I posted the jest of that email in the forum?  Just so people could have a good idea what was sent to me?  Or would you think it more important to honor a private email and not tell anyone about it?

I don't see that Caps was posting any confession. Kermit says she is not allowed to post it and yet she posts it. And no, if I had an e-mail from Joran confessing I would not post it at SM, I would turn it over to the FBI who I am sure would tell me to keep my mouth shut about it and I would keep my mouth shut about it.

Which Kyle DID NOT do.  He posted on a private forum his concerns instead of giving the information to the FBI.

that is not true. All footage was turned over to the FBI. Do you wonder why JQK, Tim Miller, Dateline the FBI and the Family are not speaking out about the Persistence? Could it be because it was all done on the up and up? Kyle also asked that his posts not be made public. I believe Jen's letter said they sought legal advice and were told not to publish his posts...am I wrong?

[Kermit]

Forgive me, but these same questions go on for pages...where is the Ignore button? 

 

I was going to ask earlier if we had an ignore button but I didn't want to sound crude.

Doesn't sound crude at all.

[Anna]

Are we as posters now required to submit a resume complete with photos?

Neither Kermit nor anyone else's credibility with me hinges on past employment.

Posters live or die by the credibility of their posts.  I don't recall ever seeing anyone say they only believe Kermit because of past employment record.

[Tamikosmom]

I do not need an ignore option.  I just read/scan and scroll by.

However ... the edit option is another topic that I believe should be persued.

 

Janet

[hotping]

Why don't We just ignore these distraction posters then maybe they will just go away....

[Keepthefaith]

LDSTLOU - if Joran van der Sloot emailed me and confessed to Natalee dying and his disposing of her body, would it bother you if I posted the jest of that email in the forum?  Just so people could have a good idea what was sent to me?  Or would you think it more important to honor a private email and not tell anyone about it?

I don't see that Caps was posting any confession. Kermit says she is not allowed to post it and yet she posts it. And no, if I had an e-mail from Joran confessing I would not post it at SM, I would turn it over to the FBI who I am sure would tell me to keep my mouth shut about it and I would keep my mouth shut about it.

Which Kyle DID NOT do.  He posted on a private forum his concerns instead of giving the information to the FBI.

that is not true. All footage was turned over to the FBI. Do you wonder why JQK, Tim Miller, Dateline the FBI and the Family are not speaking out about the Persistence? Could it be because it was all done on the up and up? Kyle also asked that his posts not be made public. I believe Jen's letter said they sought legal advice and were told not to publish his posts...am I wrong?

From what i understand  it was about obstruction of justice.Correct me if i'm wrong Kermit!

[Kermit]

* Arlene Ellis-Schipper is a board of directors for CMB bank http://www.cmbnv.com/directors.php
* Paulus van der Sloot went to the CMB bank twice the day after Natalee was kidnapped by his son
* Lincoln Gomez and Nilo Swean are financial guys on the boards of these banks
(I'm going to add to this original post that the banks are significant to follow the money)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.520


Anita's email was SETAR

Anita van der Sloot email:
> > > > >(i edited) @setarnet.aw

SO IS Gottenbos
Email: ica@setarnet.aw

The 100 million dollars that Croes is talking about is the tax exemption or tax holiday that the refinery currently has. “Setar pays every year 75 million florins in taxes”, said Croes.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
« Reply #489 on: December 04, 2008, 12:49:24 PM »
Pardon me for not getting back to you quickly Mum, had some work to do. There was a photo posted here, maybe by the frog, that showed the phone company and bank right next to each other. If someone can find that it should help us clear this up.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg566433#msg566433

[ldstlou]

Posts and posters rise and fall on the credibility of their posting only.  I don't believe that personal biographical information about a particular poster is necessary for people to determine the validity of what they post.

That said, isn't posting personal information about other posters against the forum rules?

Yes.  Sometimes posters volunteer personal information and then of course it's OK.  But otherwise personal information about posters is nobody's business.

ok...I have seen it posted several times that kermit took down a president, and that has been part of her credibility for some it seems. Am I then allowed to ask what president and how? jeez.

I don't see where I directed my comment to you but I'll respond anyway.  You can ask all you want but it's inappropriate and don't expect an answer.

Personally, whether a person "took down" a president or not makes no difference to me.  It does not change how I feel about Kermit or Caps or anyone else.

posters keep posting this comment in reference to kermit's credibility. Why can't I ask about it then?

SHE JUST SHOWED YOU 2 PHOTOS OF HER WORKING FOR PRES CLINTON!! WHAT THE HECK ELSE DO YOU WANT?

To distract from the FACTS!  That's what it's all about for her.  IMO

ok...call it distract. I don't agree with what Kermit has done or alleged. I have stated that since I first read her posts. So I voice my disagreement and it is a distraction or I am part of the conspiracy. Why can't I just disagree with what she has said and done? I am not the only one who disagrees.

[Kermit]

Are we as posters now required to submit a resume complete with photos?

Neither Kermit nor anyone else's credibility with me hinges on past employment.

Posters live or die by the credibility of their posts.  I don't recall ever seeing anyone say they only believe Kermit because of past employment record.

Thank you Anna.
I happen to agree with you and not just because Idstlou puts me in the hot seat.
Although I guess I could have said to her, "show me yours and I'll show you mine."
heh heh

[ldstlou]

I have been here awhile too. I disagree with kermit and what she has done and now I am a "distractor' or a conspirator and suddenly the enemy. There is something really wrong with that imho.

off to basketball.

[KYcat]

KLAAS, CAN WE HAVE THE POPCORN KITTY, PLEASE????

 

[klaasend]

LDSTLOU - if Joran van der Sloot emailed me and confessed to Natalee dying and his disposing of her body, would it bother you if I posted the jest of that email in the forum?  Just so people could have a good idea what was sent to me?  Or would you think it more important to honor a private email and not tell anyone about it?

I don't see that Caps was posting any confession. Kermit says she is not allowed to post it and yet she posts it. And no, if I had an e-mail from Joran confessing I would not post it at SM, I would turn it over to the FBI who I am sure would tell me to keep my mouth shut about it and I would keep my mouth shut about it.

Which Kyle DID NOT do.  He posted on a private forum his concerns instead of giving the information to the FBI.

that is not true. All footage was turned over to the FBI. Do you wonder why JQK, Tim Miller, Dateline the FBI and the Family are not speaking out about the Persistence? Could it be because it was all done on the up and up? Kyle also asked that his posts not be made public. I believe Jen's letter said they sought legal advice and were told not to publish his posts...am I wrong?

Yes, I believe you are WRONG:

1.  From Kermit's and Kyle's posts the information was turned over to the FBI and JQK because neither Kyle or John Silvetti did.

2.  I believe Jen stated they were told to stay away from Kyle, nothing about NOT publishing his posts.  I think it was Kyle that threatened people if they published them.

[bastibro]

Caps was deception personified from the getgo.  His posts give the indication that he did not have a grasp of the English languages.  However ... other posts implied just the contrary.

Janet

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JANUARY, 2008




CapsLockWizard
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #715 1/25 -
« Reply #384 on: January 27, 2008, 02:51:39 PM »

need to know 2 things

Did Natalee travel somewhere before he come to Aruba

and

and the parents tree   Natalee is the doughter of  -----  and --------- etc.

I know that probably Dave Holloway has notting to do with this Case but the Twitty

Wat is twitty to natalee?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2539.msg332978;topicseen#msg332978


MARCH 31, 2008

CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #419 on: March 31, 2008, 03:45:31 PM »

To all that believe that the FBI did notting and believe that they have the resource to work on this.

Shango start posting in June 2005 and in June 2008 it will 3 years and that was a lot of time to solve this.

How do I came here is that I wrote a logic report bases on the information that I have that prove where they could have drop the body. I did not know that this Shango or
Simian existed.

Only this I ask was in the front page of SM in December 2007 was the email of David or Beth to sent them my report.

And that how I got here after Klaasend read the report. I took a look at the Simian and could read it. I could see patterns in it. and so I came about to interpret this simian post. Shango was more complex and after my 4 week of separating the layers , the patterns were about the Ritz and Merge with the Natalee case.

The some key were easy but some key's were complex.

and so I took it upon me to solve this with the help of some that can provide or lookup the information.

and so today we are almost done. The three mayor keys are solved and now there is a mayor key only left and that is the News.

in time all will be public...but in the right form and ethics.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.400


APRIL 1, 2008

CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #609 on: April 01, 2008, 03:15:49 AM »

my first question this morning around 9:30 was:

Why would beth lie about her being a virgin and who run with the story was fox news. where did they got the news from? I will answer Julia.

Why why would I lhype up something that was not true and now i need some one to run with it. that can colorabrorate and sustain my lie. My friend. who walk with me. both know it is not the true and that makes it like we say in Logic world,  NOT = NOT and that makes it a logic sense.

it can not be OR and can not be AND OR logic. do not compute.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg369749#msg369749

I agree.

In fact CAPS confirmed something today.
CAPS said: "I work alone [b]with a group that can not be put at risk"[/b]

Now, lets refresh our memories, Klassend posted two posts of CAPS and I think several monkeys questioned if it was 2 people, Blonde just posted that too and I agree with you guys.  Janet I recall questioned his posts because his English got better or changed[/b]



Since I can not post the actual proof, I will tell you what Caps emailed to Dave.


On February 10, 2008 10:42:33 PM
Subject: Taking matters in Our oun Hands.

Since January 1st, 2008, Caps tells Dave that he says Natalee was not in the ocean, but in the pond.
He goes on to tell Dave that he has " established a group to retrieve her body.

Then he says he is amazed Dave doesn't returne his emails or phone calls, but he wants Dave to come to Aruba.


Now, start figuring in the cover-up and how this all adds up.

Please Kermit, no more riddles?! Why not give us your honest opinion?

Isn't that a question we should ask Caps.....

Yes sure, why all so vague? Both Kermit and Caps are very vague. This is not a game like: I give you some riddles and leave you for the next 2 days to figure it out . . 

Sorry but this is my humble opinion.

[Kermit]

ok...call it distract. I don't agree with what Kermit has done or alleged. I have stated that since I first read her posts. So I voice my disagreement and it is a distraction or I am part of the conspiracy. Why can't I just disagree with what she has said and done? I am not the only one who disagrees.

I believe the problem is you don't just disagree, you want me to tell you personal information. I'm not going to do that. You can object and discuss your objections with me, I don't have a problem with that, but your constant need to have personal information is quite disturbing.

I'll just skip your posts and you have a good evening.

[wreck]

Posts and posters rise and fall on the credibility of their posting only.  I don't believe that personal biographical information about a particular poster is necessary for people to determine the validity of what they post.

That said, isn't posting personal information about other posters against the forum rules?

Yes.  Sometimes posters volunteer personal information and then of course it's OK.  But otherwise personal information about posters is nobody's business.

ok...I have seen it posted several times that kermit took down a president, and that has been part of her credibility for some it seems. Am I then allowed to ask what president and how? jeez.

I don't see where I directed my comment to you but I'll respond anyway.  You can ask all you want but it's inappropriate and don't expect an answer.

Personally, whether a person "took down" a president or not makes no difference to me.  It does not change how I feel about Kermit or Caps or anyone else.

posters keep posting this comment in reference to kermit's credibility. Why can't I ask about it then?

SHE JUST SHOWED YOU 2 PHOTOS OF HER WORKING FOR PRES CLINTON!! WHAT THE HECK ELSE DO YOU WANT?

To distract from the FACTS!  That's what it's all about for her.  IMO

ok...call it distract. I don't agree with what Kermit has done or alleged. I have stated that since I first read her posts. So I voice my disagreement and it is a distraction or I am part of the conspiracy. Why can't I just disagree with what she has said and done? I am not the only one who disagrees.

You disagree -- so noted.

[ldstlou]

LDSTLOU - if Joran van der Sloot emailed me and confessed to Natalee dying and his disposing of her body, would it bother you if I posted the jest of that email in the forum?  Just so people could have a good idea what was sent to me?  Or would you think it more important to honor a private email and not tell anyone about it?

I don't see that Caps was posting any confession. Kermit says she is not allowed to post it and yet she posts it. And no, if I had an e-mail from Joran confessing I would not post it at SM, I would turn it over to the FBI who I am sure would tell me to keep my mouth shut about it and I would keep my mouth shut about it.

Which Kyle DID NOT do.  He posted on a private forum his concerns instead of giving the information to the FBI.

that is not true. All footage was turned over to the FBI. Do you wonder why JQK, Tim Miller, Dateline the FBI and the Family are not speaking out about the Persistence? Could it be because it was all done on the up and up? Kyle also asked that his posts not be made public. I believe Jen's letter said they sought legal advice and were told not to publish his posts...am I wrong?

From what i understand  it was about obstruction of justice.Correct me if i'm wrong Kermit!

according to whom? Not the FBI. The FBI do not have a problem with Kyle. In fact, they told him to ignore Kermit she was not important. She once again...posted that e-mail from Kyle to her...you all read it and ignored it.

[Anna]

What a lovely color that building is!  As a Dutch American I can truly say that the Dutch do make the nicest and best paint in the world!

I wonder what the name of that color might be.  Would love to use it sometime.
I know Tylergal has used some Dutch imported paint but is it out of my price range by about $100 per gallon!

Still, that would make a wonderful color for inside as well.


.

[hotping]

Thank Goodness for Basketball! 

[Blue Moon]

LDSTLOU - if Joran van der Sloot emailed me and confessed to Natalee dying and his disposing of her body, would it bother you if I posted the jest of that email in the forum?  Just so people could have a good idea what was sent to me?  Or would you think it more important to honor a private email and not tell anyone about it?

I don't see that Caps was posting any confession. Kermit says she is not allowed to post it and yet she posts it. And no, if I had an e-mail from Joran confessing I would not post it at SM, I would turn it over to the FBI who I am sure would tell me to keep my mouth shut about it and I would keep my mouth shut about it.

Which Kyle DID NOT do.  He posted on a private forum his concerns instead of giving the information to the FBI.

that is not true. All footage was turned over to the FBI. Do you wonder why JQK, Tim Miller, Dateline the FBI and the Family are not speaking out about the Persistence? Could it be because it was all done on the up and up? Kyle also asked that his posts not be made public. I believe Jen's letter said they sought legal advice and were told not to publish his posts...am I wrong?

Yes, I believe you are WRONG:

1.  From Kermit's and Kyle's posts the information was turned over to the FBI and JQK because neither Kyle or John Silvetti did.

2.  I believe Jen stated they were told to stay away from Kyle, nothing about NOT publishing his posts.  I think it was Kyle that threatened people if they published them.

Thanks Klaas, I can't get the hang of attack mode.  Having a hard time understanding the attacks on Kermit when it was Kyle's own words.

[Keepthefaith]

ok...call it distract. I don't agree with what Kermit has done or alleged. I have stated that since I first read her posts. So I voice my disagreement and it is a distraction or I am part of the conspiracy. Why can't I just disagree with what she has said and done? I am not the only one who disagrees.

I believe the problem is you don't just disagree, you want me to tell you personal information. I'm not going to do that. You can object and discuss your objections with me, I don't have a problem with that, but your constant need to have personal information is quite disturbing.

I'll just skip your posts and you have a good evening.

I wanna know which pond you frequent,as well as which lily pad you live on?.Jus kiddin...