Natalee Case Discussion #789 1/1/09 - 1/3/09

[Keepthefaith]

Conspiracy? The whole friggin thing since 5-30-2005 has been one giant conspiracy cloak behind the mask of sovereignty.

I thought everyone knew that.

Paulus at CMB -> ask Armin Solongier - he WORKS THERE.

Jossy - when his story is told, jaws will drop. I kid you not. And he even told YOU all most of it. Who owns three islands? Who needs Aruba when a pipeline can juss as easily go to an off shore island?

Who is owed 7.4 million florins by the MEP / Aruban Authorities for over taxation? He told - IT'S HIM.

Who bides his time? He told you - it's him.

Is Jossy very,very bad???Ohh geez...

[jen3560]

 

LOL Texasmom!  great minds and all!!

[2NJSons_Mom]

Folks, I left early last night, but catching up gives me reason to be a little suspicious this morning.  We got somewhat good news from CAPS, Kermie and Red.  Then an interesting discussion begins about Columbian connections and following the money.  In the middle of that LDStLou shows up again to defend Kyle some more the the topic of discussion is completely forgotten.

Thanks to Kermit for coming back and backing up everything that was said concerning Kyle.

Ree...KeepTheFaith and I started the discussion about following the money.  I assure you it was to do nothing other than have a discussion.  The issue of Kyle seems to be the only thing allowed in here anymore.   I would like to discuss other topics as well.  No conspiracy...

This is not true and I also think Ree was disappointed the discussion was interrupted.

[Rob]

Conspiracy? The whole friggin thing since 5-30-2005 has been one giant conspiracy cloak behind the mask of sovereignty.

I thought everyone knew that.

Paulus at CMB -> ask Armin Solongier - he WORKS THERE.

Jossy - when his story is told, jaws will drop. I kid you not. And he even told YOU all most of it. Who owns three islands? Who needs Aruba when a pipeline can juss as easily go to an off shore island?

Who is owed 7.4 million florins by the MEP / Aruban Authorities for over taxation? He told - IT'S HIM.

Who bides his time? He told you - it's him.

Is Jossy very,very bad???Ohh geez...

according Jamie Skeeters - he's the head of the cartel. that's Jamie's answer.

[klaasend]

Truthseeker2 - one line of discussion here?  Really?  Makes me wonder why you bother.

[texasmom]

Must be a slow day at CnG  

 

Apparently everyday's a slow day there, they are all here lurking!  Then they draw straws for the next drive by! 

[truthseeker2]

The problem for some here is that they take ONE sentence and analyze it to death. In order to comprehend what Kermit, Jen etc. are telling us, you need to step back and look at the whole picture. Each statement by Kyle alone is "defensible" -- NOT, however when you look at the whole picture and in the proper time table.

Excuse me, wreck, but the whole picture has not been presented.  With all due respect, I am just as capable of comprehending as any other monkey.  That one sentence appears without the full context of the question that elicited the response.  I prefer to have more information and I hope you do not mind of I ask for it.  If it cannot be provided, then I will still question the conclusions.  Not agree or disagee, just question. 

Stepping back is good advice, maybe, for all of us.

I'm sorry if you took offense -- what I said was not necessiarly aimed at you, it was meant for everyone. That said, did you read jen's and kermits replies late last night. The "bigger picture" and time frames are more clearly defined.

Yeahg, I got all that.    For me, the "bigger picture" needs a frame.  And having not been a Freebird I cannot know the FULL scope of the conversations.

Not big deal.  I think if monkeys believe this about Kyle and the Persistence then they just do.

It has ocurred to me that if someone is involved with giving information to the FBI, they may just not tell everything they gave to the FBI if the FBI does not want them to.  I think I am just going to trust the FBI.  If Kyle and the Persistence did anything wrong here I am sure they will handle it without my help.

[Keepthefaith]

Conspiracy? The whole friggin thing since 5-30-2005 has been one giant conspiracy cloak behind the mask of sovereignty.

I thought everyone knew that.

Paulus at CMB -> ask Armin Solongier - he WORKS THERE.

Jossy - when his story is told, jaws will drop. I kid you not. And he even told YOU all most of it. Who owns three islands? Who needs Aruba when a pipeline can juss as easily go to an off shore island?

Who is owed 7.4 million florins by the MEP / Aruban Authorities for over taxation? He told - IT'S HIM.

Who bides his time? He told you - it's him.

Is Jossy very,very bad???Ohh geez...

according Jamie Skeeters - he's the head of the cartel. that's Jamie's answer.

Thanx Rob.Still trying to understand what Eduardo's role is if any?Hope you rang in a Happy New Year.Them damn tapes that Greta has from Tj.She ever gonna play those?

Snowing again in Seattle...

[texasmom]

LOL Texasmom!  great minds and all!!

 

[Anna]

One doesn't have to "do" anything "wrong" if one only stands by and allows ALE to abscond with the contents of the fish trap.

When have we ever seen ALE handled evidence of anything in this entire investigation in a professional and reliable manner?

[truthseeker2]

Truthseeker2 - one line of discussion here?  Really?  Makes me wonder why you bother.

Hoping, Klaas.  Just hoping.

I have always liked SM, Klaas.  I'm sure you see me lurking everyday.  I have always been here.  I have watched the evolution.

[hotping]

Must be a slow day at CnG  

 

Apparently everyday's a slow day there, they are all here lurking!  Then they draw straws for the next drive by! 

[johan555]

I never believed that Paulus went to the bank twice.  Once if at all and think he was just saying he went twice to cover being away from his desk at work for so much of the day.  He must have had some cushy job if he could leave twice for over an hour each time just to make a personal bank deposit for small sum of Joran.

I have always thought it was just an excuse for being away from work especially the time he claimed to have driven half an hour each way and left without even making the deposit.  That makes no sense at all.

JMO

about the bank :



 I can also remember that around 10.00 hours I went
to the C.M.B. bank. There were long cues at the bank so I left without
having made any transaction and went back to work. I left my workplace
at approximately 15.00 hours. I arrived at the bank at approximately 15.30.
I had gone to the C.M.B. bank that is situated in Noord.

To your question whether I went to the bank without stopping
or going anywhere else, I can state the following. I at least cannot
remember having been anywhere else. I think I went directly to the bank.
At the bank I talked to Ruth DIJKHOFF. At the bank I deposited the
money that Joran said that he had won in the “Free Tournament in
the Holiday Inn” on the 29th of May 2005. It was approximately
500 Aruban guilders. Joran had given me 100 guilders because he
had taken over my place in the tournament.
After depositing the money I went home.

Why does he say that Joran won a Tournament  in the Bank ?
what is the legal age for gambling in Aruba ? Is he proud ?
 He use the name Ruth as a kind of witness ?
And why  2 times to the bank to bring 100 guilders ?

[Anna]

I see a large variety of subjects posted on here daily, certainly not just one.

One of major interest is who is going to meet with Hero Brinkman in Aruba this week.

It seems JQK is pretty certain to be there but we are awaiting word from Greta?  They need coverage for sure so hope she will make it.

Otherwise, how will we know what is being said.

And she still has yet to say anything about those tapes from TJ.

Sometimes Greta moves too slowly to suit me.

.

[Buckeye]

Truthseeker2 - one line of discussion here?  Really?  Makes me wonder why you bother.

Hoping, Klaas.  Just hoping.

I have always liked SM, Klaas.  I'm sure you see me lurking everyday.  I have always been here.  I have watched the evolution.

I posted about Guido, today and caesu posted about the Aruba meeting with JQK and all.  Maybe a post regarding what you'd like to discus would be an option.

[Edward]

Conspiracy? The whole friggin thing since 5-30-2005 has been one giant conspiracy cloak behind the mask of sovereignty.

I thought everyone knew that.

Paulus at CMB -> ask Armin Solongier - he WORKS THERE.

Jossy - when his story is told, jaws will drop. I kid you not. And he even told YOU all most of it. Who owns three islands? Who needs Aruba when a pipeline can juss as easily go to an off shore island?

Who is owed 7.4 million florins by the MEP / Aruban Authorities for over taxation? He told - IT'S HIM.

Who bides his time? He told you - it's him.

Is Jossy very,very bad???Ohh geez...

according Jamie Skeeters - he's the head of the cartel. that's Jamie's answer.

He is still my favorite Mobster Lobster.. So smooth So Sleek.. So connected..
He is a spokesman.. I do not know if he is the Big Cheese.. But he is somebody in a Familia.
No doubt about it..
But for all I know.. The Mob could be on our side in this situation. Or they created the situation on 5-30-05
I suppose we wont know until we reach the truth of the matter.
jmho

[Keepthefaith]

I see a large variety of subjects posted on here daily, certainly not just one.

One of major interest is who is going to meet with Hero Brinkman in Aruba this week.

It seems JQK is pretty certain to be there but we are awaiting word from Greta?  They need coverage for sure so hope she will make it.

Otherwise, how will we know what is being said.

And she still has yet to say anything about those tapes from TJ.

Sometimes Greta moves too slowly to suit me.

.

Maybe those are a nail in the coffin?Gonna be an interesting week!

[truthseeker2]

I see a large variety of subjects posted on here daily, certainly not just one.

One of major interest is who is going to meet with Hero Brinkman in Aruba this week.

It seems JQK is pretty certain to be there but we are awaiting word from Greta?  They need coverage for sure so hope she will make it.

Otherwise, how will we know what is being said.

And she still has yet to say anything about those tapes from TJ.

Sometimes Greta moves too slowly to suit me.

.

Yes, Greta does move slowly sometimes.  I do like the Gretawire blogs, though. 

I have been anxiously awaiting to hear about what is on those tapes since Rob posted about them.  The Colombia question has been on my mind for a while now.

 

[klaasend]

One doesn't have to "do" anything "wrong" if one only stands by and allows ALE to abscond with the contents of the fish trap.

When have we ever seen ALE handled evidence of anything in this entire investigation in a professional and reliable manner?

We haven't

[truthseeker2]

Truthseeker2 - one line of discussion here?  Really?  Makes me wonder why you bother.

Hoping, Klaas.  Just hoping.

I have always liked SM, Klaas.  I'm sure you see me lurking everyday.  I have always been here.  I have watched the evolution.

I posted about Guido, today and caesu posted about the Aruba meeting with JQK and all.  Maybe a post regarding what you'd like to discus would be an option.

Yes, and I see them.  (maybe that is why I still "bother" to come?) They do not draw much discussion though.