Natalee Case Discussion #789 1/1/09 - 1/3/09

[San]

LDSTLOU - if Joran van der Sloot emailed me and confessed to Natalee dying and his disposing of her body, would it bother you if I posted the jest of that email in the forum?  Just so people could have a good idea what was sent to me?  Or would you think it more important to honor a private email and not tell anyone about it?

I don't see that Caps was posting any confession. Kermit says she is not allowed to post it and yet she posts it. And no, if I had an e-mail from Joran confessing I would not post it at SM, I would turn it over to the FBI who I am sure would tell me to keep my mouth shut about it and I would keep my mouth shut about it.

Which Kyle DID NOT do.  He posted on a private forum his concerns instead of giving the information to the FBI.

that is not true. All footage was turned over to the FBI. Do you wonder why JQK, Tim Miller, Dateline the FBI and the Family are not speaking out about the Persistence? Could it be because it was all done on the up and up? Kyle also asked that his posts not be made public. I believe Jen's letter said they sought legal advice and were told not to publish his posts...am I wrong?

Yes, I believe you are WRONG:

1.  From Kermit's and Kyle's posts the information was turned over to the FBI and JQK because neither Kyle or John Silvetti did.

2.  I believe Jen stated they were told to stay away from Kyle, nothing about NOT publishing his posts.  I think it was Kyle that threatened people if they published them.

The footage WAS turned over to the FBI immediately. You do our FBI a disservice imho by thinking they walked away without it.

Jen also stated I believe, that they had compiled their findings, when Kyle came back he asked that they not post the piece they had put together because they had taken speculation and turned it into facts and had taken his words out of context. So why haven't the Freebirds published the material that Kermit brought here to SM? Why the need to leave the Freebirds to post the material? Am I wrong and the Freebirds are publishing their findings on the Persistence?

Define immediately.  When was the footage/pictures turned over.  Do you know this answer.  Can you provide a factual date.

I don't want to hear Kyle said immediately.  I want a date.

[Keepthefaith]

GOODNIGHT EVERYONE

Goodnight Bastibro..

[wreck]

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Will there be justice in Aruba?

LOL....

Congratulations on your "work release"!! 

[MuffyBee]

Good night bastibro 

[truthseeker2]

GOODNIGHT EVERYONE

Goodnight, bastibro.  Thanks for the artwork!

[Keepthefaith]

Yeah, and I keep waiting to hear those tapes.

You are aware that Jaime made a trip over to the Wyndham around 11:00 pm on 5/30/05...just as Andre says Joran and Guido walked 'outside'?????????

And Jaime lineage is from where?

Jaime says he went to pick up his dad?Did his dad work that night?

Why, Colombia, of course.

[Lifesong]

http://www.magic8ball.midnightfun.co.uk/8ball.php

Will there be justice in Aruba?

LOL....

heh heh heh

* If Betim is still in love with Lena, he shouldn't be marrying Laura! *

    

[Keepthefaith]

Yeah, and I keep waiting to hear those tapes.

You are aware that Jaime made a trip over to the Wyndham around 11:00 pm on 5/30/05...just as Andre says Joran and Guido walked 'outside'?????????

And Jaime lineage is from where?

Jaime says he went to pick up his dad?Did his dad work that night?

Why, Colombia, of course.

Jaime says he went to pick up his dad?Did his dad work that night?

[ldstlou]

LDSTLOU - if Joran van der Sloot emailed me and confessed to Natalee dying and his disposing of her body, would it bother you if I posted the jest of that email in the forum?  Just so people could have a good idea what was sent to me?  Or would you think it more important to honor a private email and not tell anyone about it?

I don't see that Caps was posting any confession. Kermit says she is not allowed to post it and yet she posts it. And no, if I had an e-mail from Joran confessing I would not post it at SM, I would turn it over to the FBI who I am sure would tell me to keep my mouth shut about it and I would keep my mouth shut about it.

Which Kyle DID NOT do.  He posted on a private forum his concerns instead of giving the information to the FBI.

that is not true. All footage was turned over to the FBI. Do you wonder why JQK, Tim Miller, Dateline the FBI and the Family are not speaking out about the Persistence? Could it be because it was all done on the up and up? Kyle also asked that his posts not be made public. I believe Jen's letter said they sought legal advice and were told not to publish his posts...am I wrong?

Yes, I believe you are WRONG:

1.  From Kermit's and Kyle's posts the information was turned over to the FBI and JQK because neither Kyle or John Silvetti did.

2.  I believe Jen stated they were told to stay away from Kyle, nothing about NOT publishing his posts.  I think it was Kyle that threatened people if they published them.

The footage WAS turned over to the FBI immediately. You do our FBI a disservice imho by thinking they walked away without it.

Jen also stated I believe, that they had compiled their findings, when Kyle came back he asked that they not post the piece they had put together because they had taken speculation and turned it into facts and had taken his words out of context. So why haven't the Freebirds published the material that Kermit brought here to SM? Why the need to leave the Freebirds to post the material? Am I wrong and the Freebirds are publishing their findings on the Persistence?

Define immediately.  When was the footage/pictures turned over.  Do you know this answer.  Can you provide a factual date.

I don't want to hear Kyle said immediately.  I want a date.

the day they were created!!!!

[klaasend]

Klaas,

Do you know where this is:

Jaime Alberto CARRASQUILIA CACERES, born in Columbia on April 25 1985, E.P.I.(Sector Economico)

A least is appears they are speaking of a location in Colombia.  From what I understand, in Colombia, sections are called Departments.  Such as Atlantico Department is where Barranquilla is.  But I did not find anything called Sectors.  Maybe they do have internal locations called sectors, but I did not find anything called Economico.  Researching Ecomonico Sector brings up things having to do with the Economic Sector, as in the country's economy.

All I know is that it is in Columbia.  I have not researched anything about that location in Columbia.

[Lifesong]

Define immediately.  When was the footage/pictures turned over.  Do you know this answer.  Can you provide a factual date.

I don't want to hear Kyle said immediately.  I want a date.

the day they were created!!!!

The pics from January 7th ldstlou - not December 30.

[Keepthefaith]

LDSTLOU - if Joran van der Sloot emailed me and confessed to Natalee dying and his disposing of her body, would it bother you if I posted the jest of that email in the forum?  Just so people could have a good idea what was sent to me?  Or would you think it more important to honor a private email and not tell anyone about it?

I don't see that Caps was posting any confession. Kermit says she is not allowed to post it and yet she posts it. And no, if I had an e-mail from Joran confessing I would not post it at SM, I would turn it over to the FBI who I am sure would tell me to keep my mouth shut about it and I would keep my mouth shut about it.

Which Kyle DID NOT do.  He posted on a private forum his concerns instead of giving the information to the FBI.

that is not true. All footage was turned over to the FBI. Do you wonder why JQK, Tim Miller, Dateline the FBI and the Family are not speaking out about the Persistence? Could it be because it was all done on the up and up? Kyle also asked that his posts not be made public. I believe Jen's letter said they sought legal advice and were told not to publish his posts...am I wrong?

Yes, I believe you are WRONG:

1.  From Kermit's and Kyle's posts the information was turned over to the FBI and JQK because neither Kyle or John Silvetti did.

2.  I believe Jen stated they were told to stay away from Kyle, nothing about NOT publishing his posts.  I think it was Kyle that threatened people if they published them.

The footage WAS turned over to the FBI immediately. You do our FBI a disservice imho by thinking they walked away without it.

Jen also stated I believe, that they had compiled their findings, when Kyle came back he asked that they not post the piece they had put together because they had taken speculation and turned it into facts and had taken his words out of context. So why haven't the Freebirds published the material that Kermit brought here to SM? Why the need to leave the Freebirds to post the material? Am I wrong and the Freebirds are publishing their findings on the Persistence?

Define immediately.  When was the footage/pictures turned over.  Do you know this answer.  Can you provide a factual date.

I don't want to hear Kyle said immediately.  I want a date.

the day they were created!!!!

What day were they created?

[klaasend]

LDSTLOU - so you are saying all of those photos of the trap and information about it was turned over to the FBI on January 7th 2008?

[Sleuth]

Congratulations on your "work release"!! 

LOL Wreck.   That work release one was just before Klaas's - there is a high probability it was her, wishing for a "release" from the "he said, she said" postings.   

[San]

Congratulations on your "work release"!! 

LOL Wreck.   That work release one was just before Klaas's - there is a high probability it was her, wishing for a "release" from the "he said, she said" postings.   

Hi Sleuth, Happy New Year to you.

[AZSunny]

Congratulations on your "work release"!! 

LOL Wreck.   That work release one was just before Klaas's - there is a high probability it was her, wishing for a "release" from the "he said, she said" postings.   

Hey Sleuth...good to see you back at it!

[ldstlou]

Define immediately.  When was the footage/pictures turned over.  Do you know this answer.  Can you provide a factual date.

I don't want to hear Kyle said immediately.  I want a date.

the day they were created!!!!

The pics from January 7th ldstlou - not December 30.

Hotshot answered this one a few times i think. These were not Kyle's responsibility to turn over. They were turned over by either John or Tim. Kyle can't say for sure because he was not  there when they were turned over. Any date he gave would be pure speculation.  This does NOT imply a conspiracy, nor that they were not turned over timely, it only says that it wasn't Kyle's responsibility at the time and he was not the one who turned over the footage...but it was turned over.

[Sleuth]

Hi San and AZSunny - Happy New Years to you, and to all the monkeys.

[klaasend]

http://www.magic8ball.midnightfun.co.uk/8ball.php

Will there be justice in Aruba?

LOL....

ROFLMAO 

[truthseeker2]

Yeah, and I keep waiting to hear those tapes.

You are aware that Jaime made a trip over to the Wyndham around 11:00 pm on 5/30/05...just as Andre says Joran and Guido walked 'outside'?????????

And Jaime lineage is from where?

Jaime says he went to pick up his dad?Did his dad work that night?

Why, Colombia, of course.

Jaime says he went to pick up his dad?Did his dad work that night?

Well, according to jaime he did.  To me, the coincidence is less likely that Jaime would be ariving at the Wyndham at the same time Joran and Guido were leaving the casino area.  Joran claims they went over to the Aruba Grand to cash in chips from earlier that night.  They do not go back into the Wyndham.  The migrate over to the Radisson.  Andre joins them there later and then Deepak shows up.

Joran admits to calling Jaime on the 29th, just before he called Deepak.  Jaime says Joran called him between 4 and 7.  Jaime says he may have missed a call from Joran later because he was sleeping.  Maybe....maybe not.