Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #85

[BooMonkey]

It is possible that anyone can use any name in creating a MySpace and/or Website.  That being said.

Roy Kronk MySpace

This is the reason for my disclaimer
Roy Kronk Website
After a month long hunt for missing Caylee Marie Anthonhy, her body was finally found in a wooded area less than a mile away from where she was reported missing, by Mr. Roy Kronk.

Roy Kronk is the Orlando, FL utility worker who discover the remains of Caylee on December 10th, 2008.

 Was it the 10th Caylee was discovered or the 11th?

Caylee was found on the 11th

[NO1ZMONKEY]

Monkeys, before I get back to being obsessed with school, I have promised myself I will make the ultimate timeline..Wayyyy better than NG's..maybe i can send it to her. haha. but before mine is complete im taking pointers from other fellow investigators..and i found this....i liked it..so here you go monkeys!
This is just a preliminary test to see how this comes out...More info soon!

Phone Log and Ping Information


 June 16th Ping trace detail

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Start 00:20 tower 22292 (NW of Anthony home) -80 minute call TO Tony L.

Next call placed 03:03 (3:03 AM) - 14.3 Minute call FROM Tony.


At 07:45 someone inside the Anthony home called Casey's cell (also inside the home) for 1 minute.


At 11:47 Am Tony called her for just under 19m.


At 13:00 (1PM) Tony called her back for 14m.


At 13:44 she called Amy H. for 36 minutes.


At 14:42 Jessie G calls her for 11m


At 15:04 George calls her for 26 seconds. (Toweer indicates she is in or near the Anthony home)


At 15:35 she calls Tony for 22 seconds.


At 16:10 she calls Lexus of Orlando for 34 seconds


At 16:11 Casey calls Cindy's cell for 3 seconds


At 16:16 she calls back to Lexus of Orlando for 98 seconds


At 16:19 she calls Tony for 58 seconds. This call pings off of tower 21712 (she is moving)


At 16:22 she calls Tony for 75 seconds (This again pings the same 21712 tower, different antenna)


At 16:25 she calls back to Cindy's cell for 3 seconds (pings 20342, 2 miles from Tony's house)


At 18:32 she cqalls back to Cindy's cell for 3 seconds. (pings 20723, .6 miles from Tony's place)


At 18:32 she tries the Anthony home for 17 seconds (pings 21512, .6 miles from Tony's place)


At 18:33 she checks her voicemail for 51 seconds. Pings 21512


At 19:21 she calls Amy H for 42 seconds. Ping tower 20723, .6 miles from Tony's place.


At 20:03 Mark Hawkins calls her for 6 seconds. (assumes Mark's number is 623-209-4511) No tower info available, however 1 hour later her phone pings 20341, 2 miles from Tony's house. Phone could have been off for that hour as there are no location pings for that hour.


At 23:17 her phone pings the 20341 tower (location ping, no calls thru midnight.)

June 17th Calls and tracks

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Start, Tower 20341 2 miles from Tony's home. @10:52 AM Phone was possibly off from Midnight till 10:52 AM (that, or data was removed before release)


At 10:59 Casey calls he voice mail for 37 seconds. Pings 20341


At 11:05 She calls Amy H for 7.5 minutes Pings 21512


At 14:40 Casey calls Lexus of Orlando for 150 seconds Pings 21512


At 14:18 Casey calls Amy H for 542 seconds (9minutes) Pings 20342


*******Here she Left Tony's house and made a quick trip to theAnthony Home...No cell pings between the locations*****


At 14:29 Casey calls Ricardo Morales for 73 Seconds. Pings 22292 (near Anthony home)


At 14:30 Don Reid Ford calls her for 460 Seconds (7.6 minutes) Pings 21781 (near Anthony home)


At 14:44. there is a 0 second call from Tony with no ping data, yet 42 seconds later he calls her back for 15 seconds with a ping on Tower 21781 so 21781 can be assumed for this call.


At 14:45 She calls him back for 4 seconds, then he calls her back at 14:49 for 50 seconds. All these calls ping tower 22292 which is 2 miles from the Anthony home.


At 16:05 a 3 second call is made from Casey to Tony which pings 22292, Near the Anthony home


At 17:20 and at 17:23 two pings are made to tower 20951which is located 3 miles from Tony's house, and 3/4 miles from Blanchard park. SInce the next tower pings are near Tony's home, it is assumed that Casey was driving to his home.
All remaining pings for this date are location pings by the system and in the area of Tony's apartment. The 17th closes out at Tony's apartment. Only 4 calls of greater than one minute were made on the 17th either to or from Casey....odd...

 June 18th Ping tracks

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At 00:10 Casey calls Papa John's Pizza 11775 East Colonial Drive Orlando FL ... Orlando FL 32817 for 52 seconds. Then she calls back one miute later for 4 seconds. I'm guessing she didn't get an order placed....

At 00:17 she dial 407-447-9999 and then at 00:19 she dials 407-478-9999 each for around 75 seconds and both calls ping tower 21512 (near Ton'y home). I can't find results for either number. Maybe a miss dial....


From 00:31 thru 07:55 there is no ping activity. Possibly phone is off but pings prior to and after this time laps suggest the phone is still in or near Tony's apartment.....Ping 21512
There are several SMS pings to and from the phone between 07:55 and 12:33 which look like or suggest possible text messages between Cindy & Casey, and a text service using the number 1697724. Most of these messages happen between 9:00 and 10:52 AM. Ping 21512


At 12:33 Casey calls the Lexus dealer again. I've been informed that this is probably a call to George and that he worked security at the Lexus dealer during this time. Ping 20341


At 12:34 Casey called Cindy's cell number for 3 seconds. Ping 20341


At 12:36 Casey calls George's cel for three seconds. Pings 20341 south of Tony's place. This is consistant with Casey calling to see who is home at the Anthony house before she goes there. Within 1 hour of these calls, she arrives at the Anthony home.


At 13:09 Casey calls Cindy's cell for 88 seconds. Pings 20735 still at Tony's place.


At 13:11 Casey calls the Anthony home for 30 seconds (again checkng to see who is home...) Pings 21512


At 14:05 Casey Text(?) Tony's cel ping 20723


At 14:42 her phone pings the tower 22292 (within 2 miles of Anthony home....


At 15:16 Casey calls Tony for 3 seconds. Pings 22292, Tower north of Anthony home.


At 15:42 Casey calls Tony for 115 seconds. Pings tower 21781 south of Anthony home.


At 16:11 Casey Calls Amy H cell for 95 seconds. Pings tower 20133 3 miles from the Anthony home, near Fusion night club (she is moving away from Anthony home)


At 16:13 Casey calls Lexus (George) for 81 seconds. Pings 21712 .6 miles from Tony's home.


At 16:27 unknown cell phone 904-614-3687 out of Jacksonville calls Casey for 75 seconds. Pings 21512 (near tony's place)


At 18:39 CAsey calls Cindy's cell for 456 seconds. Pings 21512 near Tony's home.


At 18:57 Casey calls Cindy's cell for 157 seconds. Pings 21512 near Tony's home.
*****this is the last call logged on the 18th. Phone does not ping any tower until 08:32 on the 19th....Maybe phone is off, may be records withheld...don't know.

june 19th Call trace and ping info

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08:32 Text Casey - Tony

11:03 Text Tony - Casey


11:57 Text 407-754-4058 to Casey


12:06 Text Casey to 4058# above


12:07 Text Casey to Tony


12:09 Text Tony - Casey


12:09 Text Casey - Tony


12:11 Call to Anthony home not answered


12:12 Call from Casey to Amy H. for 33 minutes. Ping 21512 near Tony's home.


12:14 Text 407-754-4058 to Casey


13:06 Text from Casey to Amy H.


13:07 Text Amy H to Casey


13:14 Text to Casey from 11 ? number is displayed as simply 11...


13:20 4 second call to AmyH ping 20723


13:20 Call 276 seconds to Amy H. Ping 21512


14:09 unanswered call to 321-948-0081 ? whodat? Pinged 21512


14:10 Text to 407-701-7965 Unknown number


14:10 Call from 407-701-7965 for 84 seconds. Ping 20723


14:27 Text from 132665132 ? odd numbers. Maybe something missing here...Same last 4 digits as Lee A.


14:58 Text from the 407-701-7965 ? Pings tower 20951 3 miles from Tony's and near Blanchard park


14:58 Casey calls voice mail


14:59 Text from "0" Pings 20851 tower again


15:07 Text from 407-701-7965 ? pings 55085 tower near Tony's home


16:20 128 second to George at the Lexus dealership. Ping 20341


16:23 214 second call to Amy H. Ping 20723 near Tony's home


16:52 text from Amy H. three more thru 17:45 between these two people
No pings between 17:45 and 21:02 Phone off?


21:13 332 Second call from Casey to Anthony home Ping 21512 Near Tony's home.


21:35 4 second call from 623-209-4511 ...I have ow seen this number associated with both Annie D and Mark Hawkins....I don't know which is

right....


23:28 text from 16977522 is last text message and activity for this date.

JUlY 1st

All of the following calls and text messages ping on antena 24375, 20952, until 02:25 am. Both these antennas are on the same tower


00:08 Text message to 407-754-4058


Between 00:07 and 00:11 Tony and Casey exchange 9 Text messages


00:11 Text message to 407-754-4058


Between 00:11 and 00:14 T&C exchange 7 Text


00:14 call to 407-312-9587 - not answered 0 seconds


Between 00:14 and 00:15 T&C exchange 3 text


00:15 Text message to 407-754-4058


00:16 Text from Tony


00:16 Text from 407-754-4058


00:19 Call to voice mail


00:20 - 00:23 3 text between Casey and 407-754-4058


00:24 - 00:33 5 text between Tony and Casey


00:59 - 01:06 3 text between Casey and 407-754-4058


01:07 - 01:08 2 CALLS TO 407-312-9587 4 and 8 seconds


01:09 - 01:10 3 text between Casey and 407-754-4058


01:10 - One (1) second CALL to 407-312-9587


01:10 - 01:12 4 text between Casey and 407-754-4058


01:13 - Text to 407-252-3633


01:13 - 01:15 4 text between casey and 407-754-4058


01:16 One text tp tony


01:16 & 01:37 Several text to and from 407-701-4771 and 407-754-4058


01:43 Cindevil calls, leaves message a then Casevil calls voice mail and then 57 seconds each.


Between 01:43 and 02:26 There are text between 407-701-4771 and Casey (to and from) and three times Cindy leaves voice mails, and Csey calls VM right after the message is left.


*****this seems ot be a pattern for Casey. Cindy leaves message and Csey calls VM right after (call screening)******
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At 02:25 Casey's cell pings 23091 (east of airport) and then 20061(still further east of airport) @ 02:26 when texting this 4058 number listed above. This is some 10 miles east of Tony's apt where the last 50 or more pings were.********************


After this tower is pinged, there is a 1 hour 58 min. gap until 04:24 AM in the data. Again, this could be the phone turned OFF, or the data may have not been released by LE. No way of knowing for sure at this time.


At 04:24 Casey's cell pings tower 21701, then does not ping anywhere until 06:56 AM, but that tower data is missing. Left out by LE? Phone Off? who knows.....




*********************Calls from 07:33 Thru 07:50 are from Cindevil to Casey VM and Csey checking VM and all the tower data is missing again. I believe this has been removed by LE prior to release. The first ping after this time is 07:51 on tower 24045 and then several pings to 23091 both east of Fusion night club. The next ping is *****************













June 24
9:58am Pinging at/near Tony’s apt………………11min phone call from Tony L
11:20am Pinging at/near Tony’s apt……………… 6min call to Lexus of Orlando
1:19pm Pinging at/near Tony’s apt………………12min call from Jesse G
2:12pm Pinging at/near Tony’s apt…………………23min call to Amy
2:48pm Pinging at/near Tony’s apt………………1min call to Lexus of Orlando
2:50pm Pinging at/near to Cindy’s……………… 2min call to Cindy(4731)(4tries)
2:55pm Pinging at/near Cindy’s………………………1min call to Tony
2:59pm Pinging at/near Cindy’s………………………13min call to Amy3:12pm Pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………2min call to Jesse
3:15pm Pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………5min call from Cindy
3:20pm Pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………1min call to Tony
3:39pm-3:41 Pinging at/near Tony’s……………… trying to call Amy
5:25pm Pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………11min call to Cindy(4731)
5:36pm Pinging at/near Tony’s………………………1min call to Mark Hawkins? (AZ#)
7:05pm Pinging at/near Tony’s………12min call from then to Cindy’s home(4909)
11:00pm Pinging at/near Tony’s………………………3min call from Tony
11:05pm Pinging at/near Tony’s………………………17min call from Tony
11:52pm Pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………10min call from Tony
12:42am …………information blocked……….call attempt to (407)242-7686
12:42am………….information blocked……call attempt from Mark Hawkins? (AZ #)

No further information/activity until 8:00am 6/25.

*Please note that these pings cover areas approx. 2miles in radius, and are pinging off of a phone, not a person.

JUNE 25
12:42am ……………………………..information blocked……….call attempt to (407)242-7686
12:42am…………….….…………….information blocked……call attempt from Mark Hawkins? (AZ #)
No further information/activity until 8:00am 6/25.
8:04am Pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………………..texting with Cindy Anthony til 8:09am
11:54am Pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………………checked voicemail
12:52pm Pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………..1 min. call to Lexus of Orlando
12:54pm Pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………..……39sec call to Mark Hawkins
12:57pm ……ping info blocked…………………………………..4sec call to voicemail
12:57pm….ping info blocked……………………………………..4 sec call from Mark Hawkins
12:57pm…Pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………….14min call to Mark Hawkins
1:36pm….ping info blocked……………………………………….23 sec call to voicemail
1:36pm…ping info blocked………………………………………..23 sec call from 407 629 5765
1:36pm pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………………text msg/im rec’d from ?
1:36pm pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………………1min call to Lexus of Orlando
1:37pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………..checked voicemail
1:38pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………..text msg/im rec’d from ?
1:38pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………..21min call to Amy
2:07pm pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………………text msg/im rec’d from ?
2:12pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………..3 sec call to Cindy (cell)
2:13pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………….5min call to Lexus Orlando
2:18pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………….2sec call to Lexus Orlando
2:18pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………5min call to Amy
3:04pm pinging at/near Tony’s ……………………………… text to 407 754 4058
3:05pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………….text from 407 754 4058
3:07pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………..text to 407 754 4058
3:08pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………..text from 407 754 4058
3:09m pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………….text to 407 754 4058
3:10pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………..text from 407 754 4058
3:10pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………….text to 4058
3:11pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………….text from 4058
3:12pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………….text to 4058
3:13pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………….text from 4058
3:13pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………text to 4058
3:15pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………text from 4058
4:33pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………text/im from?
4:35pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………text/im from ?
6:26pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………..2min call
6:30pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………..im/text msg
6:30pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………..im/text msg
6:32pm pinging at/near Tonys………………………………1m call to voicemail
6:32pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………im/text msg
6:36pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………15min call to Cindy
9:03pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………text from Amy
9:05pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………text from Amy
9:08pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………….text to Amy
9:08pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………text to Amy
9:11pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………..4min call to Cindy’s House
9:54pm ….ping info blocked…………………………………..7sec call to voicemail
9:54pm….ping info blocked……………………………………7sec call from Mark Hawkins
……………………………NO MORE ACTIVITY UNTIL 8:45AM ON 6/26……………………………………………
JUNE 26
8:45am pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………………….text msg to Tony L
8:56am pinging “ “…………………………………………….29sec call to Mark Hawkins
10:14am pinging “ “…………………………………………….13min call from Tony L
11:36am pinging “ “……………………………………………10min call from Cindy (cell)
1:26pm pinging “ “……………………………………………..im/text msg from ?
1:33pm pinging “ “…………………………………………….im/text msg from ?
1:41pm pinging “ “……………………………………………..text to Amy
1:44pm pinging “ “……………………………………………..im/text msg from ?
1:52pm pinging “ “…………………………………………….im/text msg from ?
1:59pm pinging “ “……………………………………………..text msg from Jesse
2:00pm pinging” “……………………………………………..1.5min call to Jesse
2:43pm pinging “ “ ……………………………………………..25sec call to Mark Hawkins
3:17pm ………….ping info blocked………………………………………11sec call to voicemail
3:17pm……………ping info blocked………………………………………10sec call from Mark Hawkins
3:34pm …………ping info blocked………………………………………..8 sec call to voicemail
3:34pm…………..ping info blocked………………………………………8 sec call from Mark Hawkins
4:39pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………………….text to Cindy(cell)
4:57pm pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………………………13min call from Ryan
5:49pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………………………………….im/text from ?
5:55pm “ “…………………......………………………text from Cindy (cell)
6:50pm “ “…………………......………………………4min call from Mark Hawkins
6:55pm “ “……………………......…………………....text from 9829
6:56pm “ “………………......………………………….text to 9829
6:57pm “ “…………………......………………………..im/text from ?
6:57pm “ “…………………......…………………………im/text from ?
7:25pm pinging at/near Tony’s………………….......….....………………………….im/text from ?
7:26pm “ “……………………………………….3min call to Cindy(cell)
7:29pm “ “…………………………………….16sec call to 0286
7:29pm “ “ …………………………………………im/text from ?
7:29pm …ping info blocked……………………………………………………text to Amy
7:30pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………………………..9min call to Amy
9:35pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………………………..20min call from Amy
9:55pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………………………..2min call to 4909
11:24pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………………………text to Tony L
11:28pm pinging at/near Tony’s…………………………………………..18min call from Mark Hawkins
11:41pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………………………5min call from Tony L
11:47pm pinging at/near Tony’s……………………………………………10 min call to Mark Hawkins





This says she was never at the Ants on the 24..thats the day GA says she stole the gas cans...hmm
 
 
 


caylee marie is my hero


 June 27, 2008
To Amy
(11:34AM) from Casey Anthony: There was definitely part of a dead animal plastered to the frame of my car
(11:49AM) from Casey Anthony: My car ran out of gas again
(11:58AM) from Casey Anthony: Two weeks in a row..on friday.. my stupid car runs out of gas. Wow.
(11:24PM) from Casey Anthony: No worries. Ill call you in the morning
*******TWO FRIDAYS IN A ROW>>>SO HER CAR RAN OUT OF GAS ON THE 20>>NOT ThE 24..Thats a breakthrough For Me..No one else had caught that...

June 29, 2008
to Amy
(10:25AM) from Casey Anthony: Can i borrow you and your gas can today?
(11:24AM) from Casey Anthony: Shit. I forgot.
(12:38PM) from Casey Anthony: How soon?
(2:46PM) from Casey Anthony: I wasnt sure if it was already done. Have it sent to the house. I have a lot of details to fill you in on. Ill call you later on

July 4, 2008- To AMY

(12:27AM) from Casey Anthony: Jp and i are good
(1:17AM) from Casey Anthony: Are you serious?! Im not joking %-) thats not good at all. Did you check the car just in case?
(1:19AM) from Casey Anthony: Where the hell did you put it? Thats crazy
(1:20AM) from Casey Anthony: Jesus  do you want me to come back and help you look?
(1:22AM) from Casey Anthony: Yeah. We just need to find it. Piece of mind right?
(1:25AM) from Casey Anthony: Hunny  god that sucks. It will turn up. No doubt. You going to be up or are you going to bed?
(1:26AM) from Casey Anthony: %-) i feel bad for not paying more attention
(1:28AM)from Casey Anthony:  Im sorry love. Let me know if i can help
 
 
 
 
 
 

[Today]

Snipped

Can they do that though? Will LE not require them to speak until after the funeral? Or will LE just get tired of waiting & tell them enough already, your time is up! 

IMHO

So maybe this coming week we'll hear more from LE & they'll get the ball rolling again! 

I don't think it will be Monday.  I think LE will be having send off parties for Sheriff Beary.

[QuietMonkey]

Good Morning Monkeys!

Regarding Roy Kronk, I wonder if it is possible if Nejame in a "backwards sort of way" had Kronk go to the right location?  Nejame quit rather abruptly around the same time Dominic Casey was videotaping in that location.  Nejame couldn't say where the body was, so he has someone find it for him?  I think Nejame is a good man and so is Roy Kronk, but I'm just speculating.

Lisa

I have no clue, but I think that's a possibility. Maybe he heard what area she was in, and somehow found a way for someone to accidentally "find her". If he heard, but couldn't come out and tell someone (not sure if that is true that he "couldn't tell anyone") maybe it was killing him to know she was laying out there somewhere in the woods all alone. Maybe he wanted someone to "go and get her"? Do any monkeys know if either lawyers did find out she was dead and left in the woods somewhere-is there some reason they couldn't tell anyone-like LE? Does attorney client priviledge apply to knowing where a murdered victim is left? Just wondering about this, anymonkey?

[NewfieMonkey]

The whole Lexus dealership # topic has (or had) its own thread (very short) on WS.  The number was actually the number to the office where CA worked.  Something about it being an office - where one main number dials in to an office full of numbers ... and that number also is the number shown when anyone from that office dials out. 

I thought CA was a nurse and worked for a healtcare provider.  The name excapes me.

Sorry - should have clarified.  The number is NOT to a Lexus dealership.  It IS to the medical office where CA work(s)(ed).

[CynInOregon]

Good Morning Monkeys !!
I wanted to chime in on this waiting for the holidays to be over to hold Caylees services. In Oregon you have to bury or cremate within 10 days of death. We had no choice but to have Heathers services 3 days before Christmas, or on Christmas which we did not want to do. I have no idea what the florida rules are, but cant imagine that they are all that different.
Has anyone looked into this?

[NO1ZMONKEY]

The whole Lexus dealership # topic has (or had) its own thread (very short) on WS.  The number was actually the number to the office where CA worked.  Something about it being an office - where one main number dials in to an office full of numbers ... and that number also is the number shown when anyone from that office dials out. 

I thought CA was a nurse and worked for a healtcare provider.  The name excapes me.

publix?

[txlisa]

New song on Caylee's MySpace page:

A Baby Changes Everything lyrics

Faith Hill – A Baby Changes Everythng
Teenage girl, much too young
Unprepared for what’s to come
A baby changes everything

Not a ring
On her hand
All her dreams and all her plans
A baby changes everything
A baby changes everything

The man she loves she’s never touched
How will she Keep his trust
A baby changes everything
A baby changes everything

And she cries, oh she cries

She has to leave, go far away
Heaven knows she can’t stay
A baby changes everything

She can feel it’s coming soon
There’s no place, there’s no room
A baby changes everything
A baby changes everything

And she cries and she cries oh she cries

Shepherds all gather round …
Star shines down…

Choir of Angels say
Glory to the newborn king
A baby changes everything, A baby changes everything, everything,
everything, every day Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah

My whole life is turned around
I was lost and now I’m found
A baby changes everything
A baby changes everything

Could Michelle have used a more innapropriate song?

Lisa

[trimmonthelake]

Sassycat...you're naked. 

 

I know.   I'm having technical difficulties and need klaas's help!     

[SweetMorgan]

 Was it the 10th Caylee was discovered or the 11th?
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Caylee was found on the 11th
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Thank you, that is what I thought! 

[CynInOregon]

Caylee was found on the 11th, I will always remember that because it was my Birthday.

[no rose colored glasses]

Good Morning Monkeys!

Regarding Roy Kronk, I wonder if it is possible if Nejame in a "backwards sort of way" had Kronk go to the right location?  Nejame quit rather abruptly around the same time Dominic Casey was videotaping in that location.  Nejame couldn't say where the body was, so he has someone find it for him?  I think Nejame is a good man and so is Roy Kronk, but I'm just speculating.

Lisa

That seems very possible to me. Also my thoughts and prayers are with all the people marymary, higherhopes, jsm, and all the other monkeys, who have had loved ones pass or are ill, and the posts about their families, which no doubt is hard to share. Take care. Mary

[SweetMorgan]

Caylee was found on the 11th, I will always remember that because it was my Birthday.

How very fitting CynInOregon.  I so love your Avi!

[Orchidwmn]

GOOD MORNING ALL!!

I just can't help but believe one of the reasons for the delay in Caylee's memorial service is the Holidays. I can't imagine myself having to relive my grandchild's funeral at Christmas every year for the rest of my life. If the A's didn't think of this, someone associated with them may have. I just believe they wanted to move it past the Holidays & into the new year as much as possible. Also, the two weeks during the Holidays is basically shut down as far as any work goes & that is probably another delay. I was just thinking about John Travolta's son & his death being on Newyears. Every year from now on Newyears will be associated with this tragedy for them. Something like this is horrible enough on any day, let alone a Holiday where there normally is celebration. JMO!

Monken you are probably right, since it is all about them.  I know we had my grandfathers funeral on Valentines Day, and it has never been a holiday for me since.

[NO1ZMONKEY]

New song on Caylee's MySpace page:

A Baby Changes Everything lyrics

Faith Hill – A Baby Changes Everythng
Teenage girl, much too young
Unprepared for what’s to come
A baby changes everything

Not a ring
On her hand
All her dreams and all her plans
A baby changes everything
A baby changes everything

The man she loves she’s never touched
How will she Keep his trust
A baby changes everything
A baby changes everything

And she cries, oh she cries

She has to leave, go far away
Heaven knows she can’t stay
A baby changes everything

She can feel it’s coming soon
There’s no place, there’s no room
A baby changes everything
A baby changes everything

And she cries and she cries oh she cries

Shepherds all gather round …
Star shines down…

Choir of Angels say
Glory to the newborn king
A baby changes everything, A baby changes everything, everything,
everything, every day Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah

My whole life is turned around
I was lost and now I’m found
A baby changes everything
A baby changes everything

Could Michelle have used a more innapropriate song?

Lisa

i agree lisa. i dont know who michelle is, but i would have applied this song to a lovely, warmhearted mothers page. Not the webpage for an innocently murdered baby, at the hands of her mother. But then again i dont know what song it is i would add to such a page. Maybe heaven by D.J yanou

[trimmonthelake]

Caylee was found on the 11th, I will always remember that because it was my Birthday.

Yes,I remember that Cyn. 

[no rose colored glasses]

Good Morning Monkeys !!
I wanted to chime in on this waiting for the holidays to be over to hold Caylees services. In Oregon you have to bury or cremate within 10 days of death. We had no choice but to have Heathers services 3 days before Christmas, or on Christmas which we did not want to do. I have no idea what the florida rules are, but cant imagine that they are all that different.
Has anyone looked into this?

Thank-you for bringing that up, I have never heard of waiting like this, I am even wondering if they already had a service of some kind secretly, which I know would be hard to do, but something seems off on this. I can't imagine the mortuary can keep Caylee's remain indefinitly.

[Today]

SNIPPED

I have no clue, but I think that's a possibility. Maybe he heard what area she was in, and somehow found a way for someone to accidentally "find her". If he heard, but couldn't come out and tell someone (not sure if that is true that he "couldn't tell anyone") maybe it was killing him to know she was laying out there somewhere in the woods all alone. Maybe he wanted someone to "go and get her"? Do any monkeys know if either lawyers did find out she was dead and left in the woods somewhere-is there some reason they couldn't tell anyone-like LE? Does attorney client priviledge apply to knowing where a murdered victim is left? Just wondering about this, anymonkey?

I think so, but its murky.  At least when I read it LMAO

Florida Rules of Professional Conduct
Cornell University Law School

[Wyks]

I just can't understand it. It says something about Cindy as a mother, that Casey's things were still around, and in perfect condition, when Caylee came along. She didn't throw them out or sell them like most parents would have done. She must really have loved having kids that age.

Yes it does, and as much as I hate to admit it, it says something nice. Especially in Florida, where most houses don't have basements, and storage is at a premium. After all that has happened, I have a hard time thinking nice things about Cindy. (I am sorry to say)

My mom saved our favorite toys, and still has a laundry basket full of my brothers toys at her house for his kids to play with. Our favorites she gave to us when we moved out along with our baby book, first Christmas dress etc. She still has my baby bed, even though we have explained that the rails are too far apart and that there were no rules in 1964, but to no avail. But she is the best mom any kid could have ever wanted. (No I am not prejudiced)   

I just try to put myself in Casey's head, and I see her as so mean, selfish and evil, that I can't see her finding joy in what most of us would.

I don't think that is Cindy's doing. It's Casey's. My sister was EXACTLY like Casey. She kept everything. She didn't play with her toys. It was so weird. She would have Easter and Halloween candy stashed away for years. There wasn't one ounce of maternal instinct in her whole body. She lived in a fantasy world and lied through her teeth 24/7. It wasn't my parents fault, they were loving and raised six kids. My sister was born this way. But they never got her any help, I'm know they struggled, making excuses for her, treating her extra special (as she demanded), I guess it was just easier to give into her than face her wrath. She was relentless.

I think the fact that people like this are 'relentless' is one major reason loved ones often seem to do nothing to try and stop them.  Very likely someone may have tried, perhaps again and again, but soon become exhausted and worn out in the face of this relentlessness.  The thing is, the person is relentless with everything. 

My oldest can argue a point til the cows come home, doesn't even matter what point it is.  I have learned very early on to say something such as, 'You may be right'.  Stops him right in his tracks, gives him nothing to continue arguing a point with.  And it isn't saying that he IS right.   

We can see this in the Anthony family.  It's easy for those of us looking on to wonder WTF?  Why do they continue to placate Casey?  My guess is that the A's have already done battle with Casey over what happened with Caylee, in private, away from our watching them, and none of it has worked.  Then Casey is in jail and now we are watching.  The first thing Cindy does is placate her.  "Now sweetheart...."  Doesn't mean that the A's haven't tried, a million times before, without placating.  Could mean that they have exhausted themselves trying anything else.  Not sure without having heard what they may have done and said in private. 

We have heard that Cindy has had her hands around Casey's throat, and we have heard that she would like to beat the sh!t out of her.  Basically what most of us would like to try, not that it would work, because Casey seems to be relentless in what she does/says and doesn't do/say.

That being relentless exhausts and wipes out a good number of folks who have had every intention of turning things around. 

[abbey09]

Good Morning Monkeys!

Regarding Roy Kronk, I wonder if it is possible if Nejame in a "backwards sort of way" had Kronk go to the right location?  Nejame quit rather abruptly around the same time Dominic Casey was videotaping in that location.  Nejame couldn't say where the body was, so he has someone find it for him?  I think Nejame is a good man and so is Roy Kronk, but I'm just speculating.

Lisa

I have no clue, but I think that's a possibility. Maybe he heard what area she was in, and somehow found a way for someone to accidentally "find her". If he heard, but couldn't come out and tell someone (not sure if that is true that he "couldn't tell anyone") maybe it was killing him to know she was laying out there somewhere in the woods all alone. Maybe he wanted someone to "go and get her"? Do any monkeys know if either lawyers did find out she was dead and left in the woods somewhere-is there some reason they couldn't tell anyone-like LE? Does attorney client priviledge apply to knowing where a murdered victim is left? Just wondering about this, anymonkey?

Good morning quiet monkey.  An attorney may not divulge any element of any priviledged conversation including if they knew where a body was located. They would be in big trouble.  The attorney only has an obligation to report a future crime he has knowledge of that will happen.