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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Reply #460 on:
January 05, 2009, 04:17:32 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:07:49 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 05, 2009, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: texasmom on January 05, 2009, 02:43:46 PM
They just think they want to fight! My money would be on Hero Brinkman, taking any of those cowards on (with one hand tied behind his back!)!
Cowards, that's all they are....corrupt cowards!
I don't ever recall Rudy Croes visiting family in the USA! Did he escort Val and Maki back to school or something? Pale faced coward! He probably knew that Hero would pull that wig off and shove it down his throat!
(Sorry, bad attitude I didn't want to go back to work today...)
They all cancelled their speeches so they wouldn't have to look anyone in the eye.
If a MAJOR players is to be arrested would Rudy Croes not know?
In the USA to save face to all his corrupt buddies??Just thoughts
GREAT CATCH!!!
I would love to know what power a well intended politician possesses to investigate a corrupt Aruban investigation.
Hey ... when Rudy Croes turned the investigation over to the Dutch investigators ... the outcome was zilch and ... apparently the Dutch investigators had the full cooperation of Aruba and ... freedom of access to all documentation in the Natalee Holloway case.
Who is going to assist Hero Brinkman in this investigation? The Aruban and Dutch "powers that be" who ... through a coverup agenda for almost four years ... have denied justice to an 18 year old American citizen and ... put her family through a H--- on Earth.
Janet
If the House of Cards were to collapse as a result of the domino effect of accountability ...
the Dutch investigators
are going to fall along with those who played a role in the events that encompassed the morning of May 30, 2005 ... those in the Dutch/Aruban administrations who participated in the ensuing coverup ... the judiciary and ... the major players in Aruba's underground economy.
I firmly believe that an Aruban outcome has been negotiated ... an outcome that will prevent the house of cards from collapsing ... an outcome that dictates that a measure of accountability will start and end with only one person ... maybe a few people.
Janet
Sounds very likely to me!But ohh how wonderful it would be to drop the hammer "On the Record",of the actions that transpired,out in the oceans off of Aruba pertaining to The Persistence.Got one eye on the potential arrest but the other eye still hasn't left what transpired with the Persistence.ACCOUNTABILITY for the Persistence..
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Reply #461 on:
January 05, 2009, 04:19:57 PM »
AMIGOE.COM USES PROPAGANDA AND VICTIMIZES FAMILIES
While searching for information in the cases of those missing on Aruba, I come across all kinds of information. Some real and some totally FABRICATED.
Recently I came across a piece of info that I had somehow forgotten about. Amigoe.com got itself involved in the purposeful spreading of dis-information.
A 14-year-old boy was "lost at sea" in Aruba a year ago. No body was recovered. Amigoe.com now reports that there was a siting of the boy in Brazil.
http://aruba101.blogspot.com/2005/07/amigoecom-max-de-vries-alive-in-brazil.html
" The hotel employee has again confirmed to the Amigoe today that the police had informed the hotel that Max de Vries is probably alive. The boy is supposedly in Brazil. The American Insurance Company had asked the Aruban police for more information. "
Apparently that link no longer works, but I remembered the story as if it was yesterday. The Story originally ran in the online version of Amigoe.com and was used as a piece of propaganda to reach the intended audience in America.
Several questions immediately leap to mind.
1. Why is Amigoe.com using Hotel Workers as investigative sources? Are they not part of the AHATA? Hardly seems like a reliable source for a missing person.
2. This story ran on or about 7-14-2005. Why did Aruban Authorities feel it was important to distance themselves from the Max DeVries incident? Questions were now being asked about others missing on Aruba and the response from the Aruban Authorities was hardly reassuring. This could spiral out of control fast. They decided to begin to blame the VICTIMS for their own MISFORTUNE, otherwise known as CRIMINAL ACTS.
3. In an effort to make it appear that the story is REAL, the story implies that the Aruban Law Enforcement are actively pursuing information requested by an American Insurance Company. Why? This one is easy to answer. They shift the blame to someone other than themselves.
4. Who initiated this piece of PROGAGANDA? Prime Minister Nelson Oduber. He controls all communications on Aruba. When you control all communications, the BUCK STOPS THERE. He has no choice but to hold the ultimate responsibility even if others acted without his knowledge.
5. What was the story's ultimate purpose? The purpose is easily identified. It is again to make it appear as if Aruba did all it could to get a conclusion to Max's case even though they did nothing and in fact obfuscated the ISSUES.
6. According to the Aruban Authorities, Max was 'lost' in a tragic accident. Why the need to add this malicious act? Only on Aruba could someone come up with this 'extra' bit of pain already heaped on a grieving Family. Truly Heartless.
Apparently this piece got the attention of everyone on the NET, and got people talking about things other than Natalee Holloway.
SCUBAJAP Helps Out -
Re: the Max De Vries story-
This broke just around the time the brothers were released from jail, and had people thinking along different lines.
Max de Vries was not alone when he went out on a jet ski, he was with a family friend David Stacy, 56. Max's father had died 14 months before, and it could have been Mom's boyfriend, but I think that was kind of quick, so I don't know.
David Stacy reported that Max's jet ski stalled, and when he went to help Max, his stalled too.
David then claimed the jet ski's capsized and the two hung on. Max eventually tired, fell away and drifted off. Search and Rescue found David Stacy hanging on to the Jet skis I don't know how many hours later. Max could not be found.
Now supposedly, but this is rumor as far as I have been able to see, I haven't found anything to confirm it on the net anywhere,
David was arrested in the states on suspicion of murder because there was a very big life insurance policy on Max. Then it turns out that they brought the boy out of hiding in Brazil because it was all an insurance scam.
I was told by someone that they saw it being reported on CNN, I have not been able to find any reference to it anywhere, but maybe some of you have more time and experience with that.
This got a few people here thinking, but the police tell me there are no big insurance policies on Natalee.
Posted by: scubajap | Tuesday, August 09, 2005 at 06:32 PM
Scubajap lies and confuses the real issue, searching for the TRUTH in the cases of those that became CRIME VICTIMS on Aruba.
Guess who is scubajab Bassie
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
http://www.nataleeholloway.smfnew.com/index.php
johan555
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Reply #462 on:
January 05, 2009, 04:21:23 PM »
Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 04:19:57 PM
AMIGOE.COM USES PROPAGANDA AND VICTIMIZES FAMILIES
While searching for information in the cases of those missing on Aruba, I come across all kinds of information. Some real and some totally FABRICATED.
Recently I came across a piece of info that I had somehow forgotten about. Amigoe.com got itself involved in the purposeful spreading of dis-information.
A 14-year-old boy was "lost at sea" in Aruba a year ago. No body was recovered. Amigoe.com now reports that there was a siting of the boy in Brazil.
http://aruba101.blogspot.com/2005/07/amigoecom-max-de-vries-alive-in-brazil.html
" The hotel employee has again confirmed to the Amigoe today that the police had informed the hotel that Max de Vries is probably alive. The boy is supposedly in Brazil. The American Insurance Company had asked the Aruban police for more information. "
Apparently that link no longer works, but I remembered the story as if it was yesterday. The Story originally ran in the online version of Amigoe.com and was used as a piece of propaganda to reach the intended audience in America.
Several questions immediately leap to mind.
1. Why is Amigoe.com using Hotel Workers as investigative sources? Are they not part of the AHATA? Hardly seems like a reliable source for a missing person.
2. This story ran on or about 7-14-2005. Why did Aruban Authorities feel it was important to distance themselves from the Max DeVries incident? Questions were now being asked about others missing on Aruba and the response from the Aruban Authorities was hardly reassuring. This could spiral out of control fast. They decided to begin to blame the VICTIMS for their own MISFORTUNE, otherwise known as CRIMINAL ACTS.
3. In an effort to make it appear that the story is REAL, the story implies that the Aruban Law Enforcement are actively pursuing information requested by an American Insurance Company. Why? This one is easy to answer. They shift the blame to someone other than themselves.
4. Who initiated this piece of PROGAGANDA? Prime Minister Nelson Oduber. He controls all communications on Aruba. When you control all communications, the BUCK STOPS THERE. He has no choice but to hold the ultimate responsibility even if others acted without his knowledge.
5. What was the story's ultimate purpose? The purpose is easily identified. It is again to make it appear as if Aruba did all it could to get a conclusion to Max's case even though they did nothing and in fact obfuscated the ISSUES.
6. According to the Aruban Authorities, Max was 'lost' in a tragic accident. Why the need to add this malicious act? Only on Aruba could someone come up with this 'extra' bit of pain already heaped on a grieving Family. Truly Heartless.
Apparently this piece got the attention of everyone on the NET, and got people talking about things other than Natalee Holloway.
SCUBAJAP Helps Out -
Re: the Max De Vries story-
This broke just around the time the brothers were released from jail, and had people thinking along different lines.
Max de Vries was not alone when he went out on a jet ski, he was with a family friend David Stacy, 56. Max's father had died 14 months before, and it could have been Mom's boyfriend, but I think that was kind of quick, so I don't know.
David Stacy reported that Max's jet ski stalled, and when he went to help Max, his stalled too.
David then claimed the jet ski's capsized and the two hung on. Max eventually tired, fell away and drifted off. Search and Rescue found David Stacy hanging on to the Jet skis I don't know how many hours later. Max could not be found.
Now supposedly, but this is rumor as far as I have been able to see, I haven't found anything to confirm it on the net anywhere,
David was arrested in the states on suspicion of murder because there was a very big life insurance policy on Max. Then it turns out that they brought the boy out of hiding in Brazil because it was all an insurance scam.
I was told by someone that they saw it being reported on CNN, I have not been able to find any reference to it anywhere, but maybe some of you have more time and experience with that.
This got a few people here thinking, but the police tell me there are no big insurance policies on Natalee.
Posted by: scubajap | Tuesday, August 09, 2005 at 06:32 PM
Scubajap lies and confuses the real issue, searching for the TRUTH in the cases of those that became CRIME VICTIMS on Aruba.
Guess who is scubajab Bassie
source:
http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
http://www.nataleeholloway.smfnew.com/index.php
Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:24:07 PM »
Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:07:49 PM
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I firmly believe that an Aruban outcome has been negotiated ... an outcome that will prevent the house of cards from collapsing ... an outcome that dictates that a measure of accountability will start and end with only one person ... maybe a few people.
Janet
This sounds reasonable, Janet. And while absolute and total prosecution of every single soul involved would be best,
it just might do to see a few get it instead of none.
But unless there are SLOOTS involved and prosecuted, I will never see it as justice.
Tossing somebody in the drink when they may still be alive is murder in my book. Joran is NOT qualified to know if somebody was deceased or not. I would never make such a call and I have had training. He has had none and was a 17 yo drunk.
NO SLOOTS, NO JUSTICE in my opinion.
Not for me. Not by a long ways.
Joran van der Sloot
was 17th years old on May 30, 2005. He will receive a slap on the wrist as a consequence for his actions.
Paulus van der Sloot
gets a free pass from the consequences of obstructing the investigation. He is a family member of the main suspect.
Jan Vander Straaten
will get a free pass from a legal perspective for making "wrong decision" in the first ten days of the investigation ... "wrong decisions" that totally compromised the Natalee Holloway investigation.
Janet
+++++++++
‘The Abrams Report’ for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005
ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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johan555
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:24:46 PM »
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
http://www.nataleeholloway.smfnew.com/index.php
Anna
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:27:57 PM »
That was one of the first scams run by ALE, to try to say Max DeVries was an insurance scam and then take that to the next step that so was Natalee Holloway.
This is some serious slander and some Max DeVries' mother certainly did NOT deserve. And that David Stacey person was staying at the same hotel, they never met him before. Certainly no "boyfriend" as we can always depend on TPTB in Aruba to but a salacious spin on any and everything.
That's their specialty, victim bashing. Doesn't sit well in this country at all but they seem to have yet to figure that one out. We don't ever buy that someone deserved to be murdered or made to disappear no matter what.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:30:42 PM »
Maybe Joran changed his story to trafficking because there are no Aruban laws in place against it as they seem to drag their feet on passing normal legislation to prevent these kinds of things.
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All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Reply #467 on:
January 05, 2009, 04:36:02 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:24:07 PM
Not for me. Not by a long ways.
Joran van der Sloot
was 17th years old on May 30, 2005. He will receive a slap on the wrist as a consequence for his actions.
Paulus van der Sloot
gets a free pass from the consequences of obstructing the investigation. He is a family member of the main suspect.
Jan Vander Straaten
will get a free pass from a legal perspective for making "wrong decision" in the first ten days of the investigation ... "wrong decisions" that totally compromised the Natalee Holloway investigation.
Janet
+++++++++
The Abrams Report for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005
ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777
That business about exonerating family members is about the stupidest law I ever heard of in my life. It just begs for obstruction to take place. Much more concern for the perp than the victim by far.
I sure hope this is not what happens but it is difficult to see much else going down as it would be just about impossible to prove without someone on the inside telling all and don't see that happening.
Does Aruba really want to be the place known as where Natalee disappeared and no one ever went to jail for it? Suspended in time forever as just that place?
Evidently, they do and think they can cause people to forget. Guess it is our job to see that people don't forget.
.
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All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Reply #468 on:
January 05, 2009, 04:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 05, 2009, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:07:49 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 05, 2009, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: texasmom on January 05, 2009, 02:43:46 PM
They just think they want to fight! My money would be on Hero Brinkman, taking any of those cowards on (with one hand tied behind his back!)!
Cowards, that's all they are....corrupt cowards!
I don't ever recall Rudy Croes visiting family in the USA! Did he escort Val and Maki back to school or something? Pale faced coward! He probably knew that Hero would pull that wig off and shove it down his throat!
(Sorry, bad attitude I didn't want to go back to work today...)
They all cancelled their speeches so they wouldn't have to look anyone in the eye.
If a MAJOR players is to be arrested would Rudy Croes not know?
In the USA to save face to all his corrupt buddies??Just thoughts
GREAT CATCH!!!
I would love to know what power a well intended politician possesses to investigate a corrupt Aruban investigation.
Hey ... when Rudy Croes turned the investigation over to the Dutch investigators ... the outcome was zilch and ... apparently the Dutch investigators had the full cooperation of Aruba and ... freedom of access to all documentation in the Natalee Holloway case.
Who is going to assist Hero Brinkman in this investigation? The Aruban and Dutch "powers that be" who ... through a coverup agenda for almost four years ... have denied justice to an 18 year old American citizen and ... put her family through a H--- on Earth.
Janet
If the House of Cards were to collapse as a result of the domino effect of accountability ...
the Dutch investigators
are going to fall along with those who played a role in the events that encompassed the morning of May 30, 2005 ... those in the Dutch/Aruban administrations who participated in the ensuing coverup ... the judiciary and ... the major players in Aruba's underground economy.
I firmly believe that an Aruban outcome has been negotiated ... an outcome that will prevent the house of cards from collapsing ... an outcome that dictates that a measure of accountability will start and end with only one person ... maybe a few people.
Janet
Sounds very likely to me!But ohh how wonderful it would be to drop the hammer "On the Record",of the actions that transpired,out in the oceans off of Aruba pertaining to The Persistence.Got one eye on the potential arrest but the other eye still hasn't left what transpired with the Persistence.ACCOUNTABILITY for the Persistence..
I am not sure but ... the way I comprehend ... there are legal issues why the Natalee's Freebirds could not expose the Persistence deception through the usual means of documentation. Maybe this same legality prevents the family from exposing the truth.
The Persistence undertaking was a private venture and ... the owner Louis Shaeffer owns the copywrite to the ROV images. The legality of publishing Kyle's own words submitted under a confidentiality agreement to an internet forum ... words exposing the suspicious happenings that may have been the finale to the great Aruban coverup ... may be an issue.
In other words ... if the Persistence story is ever to be told ... it will be told by Louis Shaeffer from the perspective of John Silvetti.
IMO.
Maybe one of our Monkey Freebirds could expand.
Janet.
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
bastibro
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:43:14 PM »
Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
I love this pic but . . but . . where is Peter?
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EURobert
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:45:27 PM »
Here Hero Brinkman being threatened at Aruba in Dutch Spitsnieuws:
http://tinyurl.com/7aybyz
BTW: I was wondering... Last Thursday (1 January) Steve Holloway posted a Newyearswish on the SM Blog and concluding with this sentence: "I will say this about Natalee….the story is not over..things are in the works…I can’t say no more.."
Has anyone any idea what he meant by that? Any developments?
I remember that later that day I thought: I hope he's not going to do anything unwise.
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Reply #471 on:
January 05, 2009, 04:46:09 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 05, 2009, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:07:49 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 05, 2009, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: texasmom on January 05, 2009, 02:43:46 PM
They just think they want to fight! My money would be on Hero Brinkman, taking any of those cowards on (with one hand tied behind his back!)!
Cowards, that's all they are....corrupt cowards!
I don't ever recall Rudy Croes visiting family in the USA! Did he escort Val and Maki back to school or something? Pale faced coward! He probably knew that Hero would pull that wig off and shove it down his throat!
(Sorry, bad attitude I didn't want to go back to work today...)
They all cancelled their speeches so they wouldn't have to look anyone in the eye.
If a MAJOR players is to be arrested would Rudy Croes not know?
In the USA to save face to all his corrupt buddies??Just thoughts
GREAT CATCH!!!
I would love to know what power a well intended politician possesses to investigate a corrupt Aruban investigation.
Hey ... when Rudy Croes turned the investigation over to the Dutch investigators ... the outcome was zilch and ... apparently the Dutch investigators had the full cooperation of Aruba and ... freedom of access to all documentation in the Natalee Holloway case.
Who is going to assist Hero Brinkman in this investigation? The Aruban and Dutch "powers that be" who ... through a coverup agenda for almost four years ... have denied justice to an 18 year old American citizen and ... put her family through a H--- on Earth.
Janet
If the House of Cards were to collapse as a result of the domino effect of accountability ...
the Dutch investigators
are going to fall along with those who played a role in the events that encompassed the morning of May 30, 2005 ... those in the Dutch/Aruban administrations who participated in the ensuing coverup ... the judiciary and ... the major players in Aruba's underground economy.
I firmly believe that an Aruban outcome has been negotiated ... an outcome that will prevent the house of cards from collapsing ... an outcome that dictates that a measure of accountability will start and end with only one person ... maybe a few people.
Janet
Sounds very likely to me!But ohh how wonderful it would be to drop the hammer "On the Record",of the actions that transpired,out in the oceans off of Aruba pertaining to The Persistence.Got one eye on the potential arrest but the other eye still hasn't left what transpired with the Persistence.ACCOUNTABILITY for the Persistence..
I am not sure but ... the way I comprehend ... there are legal issues why the Natalee's Freebirds could not expose the Persistence deception through the usual means of documentation. Maybe this same legality prevents the family from exposing the truth.
The Persistence undertaking was a private venture and ... the owner Louis Shaeffer owns the copywrite to the ROV images. The legality of publishing Kyle's own words submitted under a confidentiality agreement to an internet forum ... words exposing the suspicious happenings that may have been the finale to the great Aruban coverup ... may be an issue.
In other words ... if the Persistence story is ever to be told ... it will be told by Louis Shaeffer from the perspective of John Silvetti.
IMO.
Maybe one of our Monkey Freebirds could expand.
Janet.
Bring it on Schaeffer!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:50:27 PM »
The desperation of the Arubans is usually in direct proportion to the number of empty rooms at any given time.
If they are threatening to punch members of Parliament in the head, it would indicate a larger than normal number of vacancies, IMO.
Would love to see the stats for last year but it always seems to take them at least a quarter to even report. Manana syndrome or something.
But sounds to me as though there are sufficient vacancies or promote public threats of violence. How many that takes I do not know.
Also am hoping Greta will be reporting live even though the rate to do so is very expensive now. I hope she doesn't save all the film, etc. to do a program on this later as she did with Joran and his latest confessions!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:51:22 PM »
Quote from: bastibro on January 05, 2009, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
I love this pic but . . but . . where is Peter?
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Wat kunt u wat Peter R. de Vries niet kan?
,,Ik wil voorkomen dat de zaak in de doofpot raakt. Want dat dreigt nu te gebeuren. Peter R. de Vries heeft mij bijgepraat en ik heb ongeveer alles over de zaak gelezen, zodat ik goed ben voorbereid. En ik heb afgesproken dat ik hem alles vertel wat ik te weten kom.''
http://www.nd.nl/artikelen/2009/januari/02/pvv-er-brinkman-uit-zijn-kritiek-op-zaak-holloway
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 04:45:27 PM
Here Hero Brinkman being threatened at Aruba in Dutch Spitsnieuws:
http://tinyurl.com/7aybyz
BTW: I was wondering... Last Thursday (1 January) Steve Holloway posted a Newyearswish on the SM Blog and concluding with this sentence: "I will say this about Natalee….the story is not over..things are in the works…I can’t say no more.."
Has anyone any idea what he meant by that? Any developments?
I remember that later that day I thought: I hope he's not going to do anything unwise.
1. Steve Holloway on January 1st, 2009 10:56 am
Happy New Year to everyone.
I hope this year will be the return of our Lord. I pray many will turn to Him before He comes and if I can help in any small way, I will.
I hope to have been an example of how a Christain person should live for Jesus.
I hope I have never been a stumbling block to anyone. I pray you will forgive me for my sins as I pray God will forgive me.
I will say this about Natalee….the story is not over..things are in the works…I can’t say no more..
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/01/happy-new-years-2009/
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Reply #475 on:
January 05, 2009, 04:55:03 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 04:45:27 PM
Here Hero Brinkman being threatened at Aruba in Dutch Spitsnieuws:
http://tinyurl.com/7aybyz
BTW: I was wondering... Last Thursday (1 January) Steve Holloway posted a Newyearswish on the SM Blog and concluding with this sentence: "I will say this about Natalee….the story is not over..things are in the works…I can’t say no more.."
Has anyone any idea what he meant by that? Any developments?
I remember that later that day I thought: I hope he's not going to do anything unwise.
1. Steve Holloway on January 1st, 2009 10:56 am
Happy New Year to everyone.
I hope this year will be the return of our Lord. I pray many will turn to Him before He comes and if I can help in any small way, I will.
I hope to have been an example of how a Christain person should live for Jesus.
I hope I have never been a stumbling block to anyone. I pray you will forgive me for my sins as I pray God will forgive me.
I will say this about Natalee….the story is not over..things are in the works…I can’t say no more..
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/01/happy-new-years-2009/
I apologize if I was disrespectful when I did not acknowledge Steve Holloway's heartfelt prayer ... a prayer I sincerely appreciated.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Hero Brinkman did not go empty-handed.
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Quote from: Kermit on January 05, 2009, 04:55:37 PM
Hero Brinkman did not go empty-handed.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Quote from: Kermit on January 05, 2009, 04:55:37 PM
Hero Brinkman did not go empty-handed.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 04:57:16 PM »
Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 04:45:27 PM
Here Hero Brinkman being threatened at Aruba in Dutch Spitsnieuws:
http://tinyurl.com/7aybyz
BTW: I was wondering... Last Thursday (1 January) Steve Holloway posted a Newyearswish on the SM Blog and concluding with this sentence: "I will say this about Natalee….the story is not over..things are in the works…I can’t say no more.."
Has anyone any idea what he meant by that? Any developments?
I remember that later that day I thought: I hope he's not going to do anything unwise.
earlier last year:
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=NfAYDiwvmSM
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