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Magnolia
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Quote from: Blue Moon on January 05, 2009, 04:59:32 PM
Kermit
Any idea why Eduardo Mansur was on the ship the whole time yet they kicked Tim Miller off cause he was a liability? Did Kyle ever bring this up before? Seems strange Eduardo got to stay the whole time yet Tim could not. Thanks (thanks for all you do for this good nation of ours.)
I am certainly not the frog, but I can think of two reasons for
Eduardo Mansur to be aboard the Persistence.
1. To look after his father's interest in the endeavor.
2. Because he knew the waters
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
Ah, so you say but how are we to know!
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Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 05, 2009, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
I love this pic but . . but . . where is Peter?
YUM!
I swear he's winking at me!
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Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
Shhh. Don't tell the other Monkeys ... they may think that Tamikosmom is being led astray but ... I think Peter Devries is very handsome too. However ... I think George Clooney is even better looking.
I feel justified in "just" looking. My husband once told me many years ago ... if Cindy Crawford gave him "the look" ... I would be history.
Janet
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 05:34:19 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
Shhh. Don't tell the other Monkeys ... they may think that Tamikosmom is being led astray but ... I think Peter Devries is very handsome too. However ... I think George Clooney is even better looking.
I feel justified in "just" looking. My husband once told me many years ago ... if Cindy Crawford gave him "the look" ... I would be history.
Janet
Stay Focused Janet.Jussss kiddin..
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Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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January 05, 2009, 05:36:44 PM »
Quote from: truthseeker2 on January 05, 2009, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 05, 2009, 03:23:40 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on January 05, 2009, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 03:15:21 PM
STRATEGIC TASK FORCE
Mr. Olindo Koolman (Senior Advisor)
Mr. Jaap Beaujon (Advisor)
Mr. Serge Mansur (ATIA)
Mr. Greg Peterson (ATIA)
Mr. Jorge Pesquera (AHATA)
Mr. Jeff Lesker (AHATA)
Mr. Alfonso Riveroll (AHATA)
Ms. Myrna Jansen (ATA)
Mr. Rob Smith (Aruba Hospitality & Security Foundation)
Mr. Bill Carson (Banking Sector/AHATA)
Mr. Edwin Roos (Chamber of Commerce)
Mr. Ruben Trappenberg (Aruba Government)
Mr. Eric Brete
(Aruba Government)
This is SUCH an interesting list of people.
The Mansur family!
Serge Mansur/Strategic task force
Eduardo Mansur/Search and Rescue
Jossy Mansur/Diario
Is it just me or is there a problem with this?Throw a Banana at me monkey's if i'm crazy....
Well the name does keep cropping up doesn't it.
I need a refresher on the Aruban law (?) about any information that is publicly disclosed becomes ineligible for use in trial....
err.... or something like that.
I keep thinking about that when I think of Jossy.
Can anyone go back over that for me?
TIA!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
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Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 05, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 04:59:17 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 04:45:27 PM
Here Hero Brinkman being threatened at Aruba in Dutch Spitsnieuws:
http://tinyurl.com/7aybyz
BTW: I was wondering... Last Thursday (1 January) Steve Holloway posted a Newyearswish on the SM Blog and concluding with this sentence: "I will say this about Natalee….the story is not over..things are in the works…I can’t say no more.."
Has anyone any idea what he meant by that? Any developments?
I remember that later that day I thought: I hope he's not going to do anything unwise.
1. Steve Holloway on January 1st, 2009 10:56 am
Happy New Year to everyone.
I hope this year will be the return of our Lord. I pray many will turn to Him before He comes and if I can help in any small way, I will.
I hope to have been an example of how a Christain person should live for Jesus.
I hope I have never been a stumbling block to anyone. I pray you will forgive me for my sins as I pray God will forgive me.
I will say this about Natalee….the story is not over..things are in the works…I can’t say no more..
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/01/happy-new-years-2009/
It almost reads a bit as a goodbye letter don't you agree?
Not at all Robert. I can see you`re not a religious person
Yes, maybe that's it.
I must admit: I haven't seen a church from the inside for a while...
So you think there's nothing to worry about? It sounded a bit dramatic to me.
Steve Holloway is an exceptional human being. His words speak volumes.
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If you ask the wrong question, of course, you get the wrong answer. We find in design it’s much more important and difficult to ask the right question. Once you do that, the right answer becomes obvious.<br />Quote: Amory Lovins
Blue Moon
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Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 05, 2009, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
I love this pic but . . but . . where is Peter?
VERY nice looking man. Yes he really needs in the picture.
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Quote from: Magnolia on January 05, 2009, 05:26:18 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on January 05, 2009, 04:59:32 PM
Kermit
Any idea why Eduardo Mansur was on the ship the whole time yet they kicked Tim Miller off cause he was a liability? Did Kyle ever bring this up before? Seems strange Eduardo got to stay the whole time yet Tim could not. Thanks (thanks for all you do for this good nation of ours.)
I am certainly not the frog, but I can think of two reasons for
Eduardo Mansur to be aboard the Persistence.
1.
To look after his father's interest in the endeavor
.
2. Because he knew the waters
What do you think his father's interest is?
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Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:33:16 PM
Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
Ah, so you say but how are we to know!
You probably won't believe me if I tell you I look like this guy (seeing Tamikosmom talk about Cindy Crawford)
http://tinyurl.com/7phb4g
So let's forget it....
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Quote from: klaasend on January 05, 2009, 05:02:28 PM
Quote from: truthseeker2 on January 05, 2009, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: johan555 on January 05, 2009, 03:45:45 PM
Max was lost on Aruba on 5-12-2004
no investigation ! nothing !
Max Devries would have been 18 years old now
Max and his Dad George
Just over one year later Natalee goes missing. What was going on with the month of May in Aruba? SoulBeach? Or something else?
http://www.aruba.com/calendar/view_entry.php?id=329&date=20040530
SOUL BEACH MUSIC FESTIVAL 2004
Description: SOUL BEACH MUSIC FESTIVAL 2004
Date: Sunday, May 30, 2004
Repeat Type: Wednesday,
May 26, 2004 - Monday, May 31, 2004
(every Day
...follow the music.....
Found a post about a missing girl in a town called Dordrecht. Turned out she had been taken after a concert by a band called
http://www.dicemen.net/
Coincidentally, posts by a Shango seem to refer to this band by name:
http://www.mcharvey.com/shango/shango.html
Unfortunately most search results are in Dutch!
Posted by: COLUMBO | Saturday, December 10, 2005 at 05:14 PM
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Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
Really?
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2009, 04:42:19 PM
I am not sure but ... the way I comprehend ... there are legal issues why the Natalee's Freebirds could not expose the Persistence deception through the usual means of documentation.
Maybe this same legality prevents the family from exposing the truth.
The Persistence undertaking was a private venture and ... the owner Louis Shaeffer owns the copywrite to the ROV images. The legality of publishing Kyle's own words submitted under a confidentiality agreement to an internet forum ... words exposing the suspicious happenings that may have been the finale to the great Aruban coverup ... may be an issue.
In other words ... if the Persistence story is ever to be told ... it will be told by Louis Shaeffer from the perspective of John Silvetti.
IMO.
Maybe one of our Monkey Freebirds could expand.
Janet.
I am hoping that there is a reason for Kermit's timing and expose here on SM. I am hoping that it is just one part of a bigger plan.
Will I be disappointed
Kermit
?
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Quote from: Blue Moon on January 05, 2009, 05:47:18 PM
Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
Really?
Blue Moon!!!!
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
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Quote from: Blue Moon on January 05, 2009, 05:47:18 PM
Quote from: EURobert on January 05, 2009, 05:27:14 PM
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Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
Really?
Blue Moon!!!!
WHAT Janet?
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Quote from: Anna on January 05, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
He's not half as handsome as I am...
I will always think of you as twice as handsome as Peter R. deVries.
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O.K. women, time to settle down.
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