Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 - 1/9/09

[wreck]

Why would anyone ASK to be banned?? Just go away on your own if you don't like it. Nothing but drama.

[BUCKSHOT]

Witnesses approach everybody, except the prosecution. This was stated in the press release that Greta read from. Paraphrasing - "Witness approached Dave Holloway..." Something wrong with that picture, huh?

[texasmom]

Any news from Jossy?

Haven't heard anything.  Hotshot was suppose to get back with us on why Eduardo Mansur was on that ship the whole time they were in Aruba.  But haven't heard back from her on it.  Maybe later.

I would imagine that those answers may be very hard to get!  

[Blue Moon]

Why would anyone ASK to be banned?? Just go away on your own if you don't like it. Nothing but drama.

I agree Wreck.  NOW my drama for the night----------I have to call it a night.  I am paying for being off 2 weeks at work, they are killing me.  Been told not to expect any time off for the next 2 months until our project is completed.  Yuk, Yuk.

[Keepthefaith]

Any news from Jossy?

Haven't heard anything.  Hotshot was suppose to get back with us on why Eduardo Mansur was on that ship the whole time they were in Aruba.  But haven't heard back from her on it.  Maybe later.

For some reason i don't think we'll get the Truth,as to why,Eduardo was on the Persistence everyday!

Maybe not but Hotshot will at some point come back with an answer to that question.  She is pretty good about answering questions.

I'm definitly interested in the response.Nothing against Hotshot!

The problem is Hotshot is claiming she can't get into SM.  She wanted to know if she was banned, I told her NO.  It seems a few of the ChatnGrumble members are trying to say they are banned from SM when they aren't.  Hotshot and Lala's as an example.  Neither is banned yet they are implying to others they are.  Go figure.  Some people just love the drama I guess.

Thanx Klaas!We're waiting HotShot.We'll be starting on Day 3 of arrest week tomorrow.Will a Major player be arrested?We're still waiting.I would like to think they will but the press conference tells me otherwise.Do you have a day CapsLockWizard?

KEEPTHEFAITH

[klaasend]

Why would anyone ASK to be banned?? Just go away on your own if you don't like it. Nothing but drama.

Exactly my point Wreck

[Tamikosmom]

Any news from Jossy?

Haven't heard anything.  Hotshot was suppose to get back with us on why Eduardo Mansur was on that ship the whole time they were in Aruba.  But haven't heard back from her on it.  Maybe later.

For some reason i don't think we'll get the Truth,as to why,Eduardo was on the Persistence everyday!

OPPS!

Considering Eduardo Mansur position was leader of the Aruban dive team ... it makes sense why he had a presence on board the Persistence.

Maybe Dana could invite Eduardo as a guest and ... ask the hard questions regarding the John Silvetti/ALE connection.

Janet

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klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
« Reply #173 on: January 04, 2009, 02:37:49 PM »

Hotshot just emailed this to me from Jossy.  Hotshot is having problems logging in, I have no idea why as she is not banned. 


Quote
From Jossy

No, my son was not on the dive team, but he was on board the ship every day. What he told me is that the cage is of an industrial type and not similar to the one that went missing the same morning Natalee disappeared. The ship did map a vast area and was able to pinpoint close to 100 items of interest on the bottom of the ocean along the coast. Just when they were about to examine them, they ran out of money because it is an expensive venture.
Take care
 
Jossy 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.msg611967#msg611967

[Keepthefaith]

Any news from Jossy?

Haven't heard anything.  Hotshot was suppose to get back with us on why Eduardo Mansur was on that ship the whole time they were in Aruba.  But haven't heard back from her on it.  Maybe later.

For some reason i don't think we'll get the Truth,as to why,Eduardo was on the Persistence everyday!

Maybe not but Hotshot will at some point come back with an answer to that question.  She is pretty good about answering questions.

I'm definitly interested in the response.Nothing against Hotshot!

The problem is Hotshot is claiming she can't get into SM.  She wanted to know if she was banned, I told her NO.  It seems a few of the ChatnGrumble members are trying to say they are banned from SM when they aren't.  Hotshot and Lala's as an example.  Neither is banned yet they are implying to others they are.  Go figure.  Some people just love the drama I guess.

Well they keep telling you to ban them.  Then they run. ChatnGrumble must be a happening place. 

Why'd they call it ChatnGrumble?Why not ChatnRun.OK,OK.Sorry klaas!!

[texasmom]

Why would anyone ASK to be banned?? Just go away on your own if you don't like it. Nothing but drama.

I agree Wreck.  NOW my drama for the night----------I have to call it a night.  I am paying for being off 2 weeks at work, they are killing me.  Been told not to expect any time off for the next 2 months until our project is completed.  Yuk, Yuk.

I know how you feel Blue Moon, I'm paying for my time off too.   

Goodnight!   

[2NJSons_Mom]

Any news from Jossy?

Haven't heard anything.  Hotshot was suppose to get back with us on why Eduardo Mansur was on that ship the whole time they were in Aruba.  But haven't heard back from her on it.  Maybe later.

For some reason i don't think we'll get the Truth,as to why,Eduardo was on the Persistence everyday!

Maybe not but Hotshot will at some point come back with an answer to that question.  She is pretty good about answering questions.

I'm definitly interested in the response.Nothing against Hotshot!

The problem is Hotshot is claiming she can't get into SM.  She wanted to know if she was banned, I told her NO.  It seems a few of the ChatnGrumble members are trying to say they are banned from SM when they aren't.  Hotshot and Lala's as an example.  Neither is banned yet they are implying to others they are.  Go figure.  Some people just love the drama I guess.

Maybe it helps them fit in better over there.   

Hotshot was last active here last night...Lala's 12/30/08.....imo that would mean they were logged in at that time...W

[Keepthefaith]

Why would anyone ASK to be banned?? Just go away on your own if you don't like it. Nothing but drama.

I agree Wreck.  NOW my drama for the night----------I have to call it a night.  I am paying for being off 2 weeks at work, they are killing me.  Been told not to expect any time off for the next 2 months until our project is completed.  Yuk, Yuk.

Goodnight BlueMoon!

[texasmom]

We REALLY do need a drive by smiley!!!  

[Helen Back]

For those who didn't see Greta tonight, this was my favorite part:

Snipped from Mos' press release:

Finally Fox broadcasts a so-called telephone conversation between Joran and his father. The contents of that phone call are supposed to corroborate Joran´s new story. The taped conversation between Joran and his father recently has been downloaded from the Internet by the Police and handed over to the Dutch Forensic Institute. This independent institute, the NFI, has been requested by the Police and my Office to conduct a voice-comparing investigation between the voice on that tape and earlier recordings of Paul van der Sloot. Within a few months we will know whether the material can be investigated and if so, what the results will be.

 

So funny!  The lawyers were howling about this one!  Greta has offered the original recording to Mos so many times, but instead the police download it and send it for analysis.  Chain of custody nightmare!  I guess that's how they do things in Aruba. 

MOS is an ASSCLOWN!

 

[klaasend]

2NJ - Hotshot was emailing me telling me she couldn't get in while she was online SM.  I have no idea what Lala's problem is.  Lala's has my email address and hasn't emailed me once saying she has a problem yet she has told people at CnG she has been put on a 30 day timeout.  That is a lie.

[klaasend]

We REALLY do need a drive by smiley!!!  

Hmmmm, I might be able to do that..hold on

[Helen Back]

Well, I'll just entertain myself.......


Two posts from the front page about MOS:

#  Steve Holloway on January 6th, 2009 5:52 pm

“There was no indication whatsoever that Joran had been at the dam. For that reason the Police were not ordered to conduct that search.”

OK what would indication someone was at a dam? Maybe just maybe, being wet from the chest down.

Or maybe holding a sign saying I came from the dam.

God help them
# allank on January 6th, 2009 8:27 pm

Why is he holding a pocketbook-purse?   

Too funny, Klaas.  I love it.

[Tamikosmom]

Witnesses approach everybody, except the prosecution. This was stated in the press release that Greta read from. Paraphrasing - "Witness approached Dave Holloway..." Something wrong with that picture, huh?

Considering some of his connections with some on that Island who obviously have an Aruban agenda ... I do not know if I would approach Dave Holloway.  I believe that Dave Holloway and Tim Miller's gentle natures get in the way of their discernment in regards to relationships they can trust.  My hubby is inclined that way to some extent.  However ... I set him straight.

 

Nevertheless ... I definitely would not approach the prosecutor or ... any official within the Aruban administration if I had any pertenent information to relate in regards to the Natalee Holloway case.

The FBI, John Q. Kelly, Jug Twitty and Beth Holloway would be were it was at.

Obviously ... Deepak's friend must not trust the "powers that be" within Aruba when it is considered that she contacted the FBI.  Also ... the landfill witness approached Natalee's family two month after he reported his observation to ALE and was not satisfied with the response.

Janet

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CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Update on Natalee Holloway Investigation
Aired February 23, 2006 - 21:00 ET

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: ... Deepak panicked. He panicked when the gardener gave that testimony. That very afternoon, he called an Aruban girl to help him establish an alibi. She, in turn, panicked. She called FBI. She dialed the 1-877-NATALEE number and told them that she did not want to be involved in this.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/23/lkl.01.html


Aruba Missing Teen
Posted: 8:38 AM Aug 1, 2005
Last Updated: 8:38 AM Aug 1, 2005
Reporter: Associated Press

A volunteer group searching for a missing Alabama teenager dug through a landfill in Aruba for a third day today (Sunday) but found no clues.

The search resumes tomorrow.

An Aruban man said he was at the landfill dropping off trash when he saw men dump and cover the body of a blonde female, two days after Natalee Holloway disappeared.

Police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said police searched the landfill after receiving the tip days after Holloway's disappearance May 30th, but found nothing.

He said the witness recently approached Holloway's family, who asked for another search.

http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1756907.html

[2NJSons_Mom]

2NJ - Hotshot was emailing me telling me she couldn't get in while she was online SM.  I have no idea what Lala's problem is.  Lala's has my email address and hasn't emailed me once saying she has a problem yet she has told people at CnG she has been put on a 30 day timeout.  That is a lie.

I understand that and I was stating my observation...that's why I posted W for Whatever...it doesn't make sense.           Gets hairy when you have to 'splain' yourself. 

[wreck]

For those who didn't see Greta tonight, this was my favorite part:

Snipped from Mos' press release:

Finally Fox broadcasts a so-called telephone conversation between Joran and his father. The contents of that phone call are supposed to corroborate Joran´s new story. The taped conversation between Joran and his father recently has been downloaded from the Internet by the Police and handed over to the Dutch Forensic Institute. This independent institute, the NFI, has been requested by the Police and my Office to conduct a voice-comparing investigation between the voice on that tape and earlier recordings of Paul van der Sloot. Within a few months we will know whether the material can be investigated and if so, what the results will be.

 

So funny!  The lawyers were howling about this one!  Greta has offered the original recording to Mos so many times, but instead the police download it and send it for analysis.  Chain of custody nightmare!  I guess that's how they do things in Aruba. 

MOS is an ASSCLOWN!

 

Mos: " I have personally downloaded the recording on my Fisher-Price 'My First Tape Recorder' that I got for Christmas. When I am through baking cookies with my new 'Easy Bake Oven' (although the light bulb wasn't hot enough); I will divulge my analysis. That is all. Come Across"

[bleachedblack]

Any news from Jossy?

Haven't heard anything.  Hotshot was suppose to get back with us on why Eduardo Mansur was on that ship the whole time they were in Aruba.  But haven't heard back from her on it.  Maybe later.

For some reason i don't think we'll get the Truth,as to why,Eduardo was on the Persistence everyday!

Maybe not but Hotshot will at some point come back with an answer to that question.  She is pretty good about answering questions.

I'm definitly interested in the response.Nothing against Hotshot!

The problem is Hotshot is claiming she can't get into SM.  She wanted to know if she was banned, I told her NO.  It seems a few of the ChatnGrumble members are trying to say they are banned from SM when they aren't.  Hotshot and Lala's as an example.  Neither is banned yet they are implying to others they are.  Go figure.  Some people just love the drama I guess.

I don't think it is drama. Possibly login problems? but after all this time, I find it hard to believe. I mean maybe once or twice difficulty but......
Lalas said the message she would get when she tried to sign in was that she was on a 30 day timeout. When she tried to sign in yesterday she was apparently able to do so. I can find out possitively and let you know.Yapperz and Katysmom have been banned- or are getting messages that they are banned. Yapperz contributed so much as a birdie and I hate to see long time posters, any poster banned.