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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 - 1/9/09 (Read 252754 times)
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #320 on:
January 07, 2009, 03:26:06 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on January 07, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 07, 2009, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on January 07, 2009, 03:13:24 PM
5 out of the 10 million:
Briesen
: Among all challenges we’ve faced, including airlift, US economy slowdown, gas prices etc, this particularly has taken up
our time and resources
. Everybody got involved in this case. [b
]People from the tourism department have been moved to the justice department
[/b]to help solve the disappearance. This incident has kept us ‘hostage’ for more than a year. In 2006, we even launched an
ad campaign worth $5 M in the US
to counter the negative broadcast.
http://www.eturbonews.com/865/us-still-drives-business-aruba-after-holloway-case-closed
Tourism people moved to the justice department!
Yup!! And that happened within the first week! I wonder how much more of their $10 million dollars was spent on the salaries of these folks?
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/2007/03/task-force-fueled-negative-postings.html
TASK FORCE FUELED NEGATIVE POSTINGS
Aruba Pledged to Help the Family - Instead, They Did All They Could to Bury Them With Their Daughter
The apparent corruption and collusion within the Aruban government and tourism industry began very early in the case of missing Natalee Holloway. The following will show these forces at work a mere 6 days after Natalee fell victim to her perpetrators on the island of Aruba
.
Do you know what Serge Mansur's relationship is to Jossy Jen?TIA
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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KTF - No, I sure don't. I personally haven't spent much time researching anything about the Mansur's.
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Quote from: jen3560 on January 07, 2009, 03:30:43 PM
KTF - No, I sure don't. I personally haven't spent much time researching anything about the Mansur's.
Thanx!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #323 on:
January 07, 2009, 03:32:02 PM »
Quote from: Buckeye on January 07, 2009, 03:13:24 PM
5 out of the 10 million:
Briesen
: Among all challenges we’ve faced, including airlift, US economy slowdown, gas prices etc, this particularly has taken up
our time and resources
. Everybody got involved in this case.
People from the tourism department have been moved to the justice department
to help solve the disappearance. This incident has kept us ‘hostage’ for more than a year. In 2006, we even launched an
ad campaign worth $5 M in the US
to counter the negative broadcast.
http://www.eturbonews.com/865/us-still-drives-business-aruba-after-holloway-case-closed
Thanks Buckeye.
I have been looking for that article for a long time but ... could not remember any of the key words that could apply to my trusty search engine or ... the SM search engine.
Take note ... the days of the article of admission was only one year ago.
Thanks again.
Janet
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Aruba
US still drives business to Aruba after Holloway case closed
By Hazel Heyer | Jan 16, 2008
Nassau, Bahamas (eTN) -
http://www.eturbonews.com/865/us-still-drives-business-aruba-after-holloway-case-closed
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
caesu
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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January 07, 2009, 03:35:10 PM »
just keep the pressure on Aruba, Dutch politicians (especially the ones
dis
agreeing with Brinkman!)
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/index.jsp
it IS having an effect.
just listening to Rudy Croes this week, i feel the pressure is working.
Rudy Croes fled to the USA these days because he wouldn't face Brinkman.
but he said from a distance he 'would have punched Brinkman in the head'.
he is a scared coward who knows the truth will finally meet up with him.
and Greta should also ever increase the pressure.
on Aruba they do fear her.
and donate Brinkman a language course in English. although he did a little better in his 2nd interview.
i expect some more from Brinkman/JQK/Greta? on Aruba before the end of the week.
a response to that useless press conference of Mos and that pathetic accusation of Brinkman stealing wine glass.
Brinkman is on Aruba till Saturday.
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Keepthefaith
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #325 on:
January 07, 2009, 03:38:25 PM »
Quote from: caesu on January 07, 2009, 03:35:10 PM
just keep the pressure on Aruba, Dutch politicians (especially the ones
dis
agreeing with Brinkman!)
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/index.jsp
it IS having an effect.
just listening to Rudy Croes this week, i feel the pressure is working.
Rudy Croes fled to the USA these days because he wouldn't face Brinkman.
but he said from a distance he 'would have punched Brinkman in the head'.
he is a scared coward who knows the truth will finally meet up with him.
and Greta should also ever increase the pressure.
on Aruba they do fear her.
and donate Brinkman a language course in English. although he did a little better in his 2nd interview.
i expect some more from Brinkman/JQK/Greta? on Aruba before the end of the week.
a response to that useless press conference of Mos and that pathetic accusation of Brinkman stealing wine glass.
Brinkman is on Aruba till Saturday.
All Greta has to do is bring up the Persistence and what occured out in the waters off Aruba!Bring that up to Mos at a Press Conference and he'd Sh_t his pants...
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Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #326 on:
January 07, 2009, 03:40:34 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on January 07, 2009, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 07, 2009, 03:23:10 PM
Considering the perception that a corrupt investigation has been behind a coverup in the Natalee Holloway case ... the FBI should be invited to participate in an investigation into the Aruban investigation to clear up any misconception.
If the FBI are not invited ... then it can only be concluded that a coverup in the Natalee Holloway case really does exist and ... the "powers that be" in the Dutch/Aruban Administration are not about
to flush Aruba/Holland down the toilet
when the domino effect of accountability is exposed.
Janet
Janet!!!!!!!!!
I should have followed my own advise and considered my words prior to posting. I am bad ... soooo back.
However ...
Mum
referred to me as a Pitbull the other day and ... you know ... she is right on. Any action by ANYONE that appears to further the Aruban coverup agenda which is preventing justice for Natalee Holloway from prevailing and ... closure for her family ... my immediate response is to growl and show my teeth.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
Anna
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #327 on:
January 07, 2009, 03:45:45 PM »
Quote from: Buckeye on January 07, 2009, 03:13:24 PM
5 out of the 10 million:
Briesen
: Among all challenges weve faced, including airlift, US economy slowdown, gas prices etc, this particularly has taken up
our time and resources
. Everybody got involved in this case.
People from the tourism department have been moved to the justice department
to help solve the disappearance. This incident has kept us hostage for more than a year. In 2006, we even launched an
ad campaign worth $5 M in the US
to counter the negative broadcast.
http://www.eturbonews.com/865/us-still-drives-business-aruba-after-holloway-case-closed
And yet this was not seen as a direct conflict of interest.
Amazing.
And issues of sovereignty usually arise over such things as violation of airspace, border incursions, international concerns.
This is one of the very few times I have ever seen it used as an issue in combating street crime.
Think about it!
Can you imagine the British saying something to the effect that no, we couldn't participate or have access to someone because of national sovereignty?
Once in a while an EU country will refuse to extradite a suspect because they do not respect our system with its death penalty. I think the Dutch are still holding a 9/11 suspect on those grounds.
Yet we were told nightly we HAD to respect their system in Aruba.
Even semi-friendly only Turkey turned over cruise ship investigation to the U.S. Semi-hostile countries like Mexico sometimes try to make it an issue but is seldom done among Western Civ countries.
Street crime does not usually apply to national sovereignty issues. Justice is justice just about everywhere on the globe.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Anna
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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January 07, 2009, 03:53:45 PM »
I thought Brinkman did great with his interview. His English is more than sufficient.
Same for Peter R de Vries. And while Peter is a hottie, Brinkman is no slouch. He is causing Monkeys to spend extra time on our hair and make up as well.
I understand Peter was nervous about interviews in English but we Americans are not at all critical of that. I find both totally understandable.
Unfortunately, Mos also has excellent English. He is not so much of a hottie, however, so he is not forgiven.
When they are a hottie, the accent is just cute as can be, lol. But we can understand exactly what they are saying and they do an excellent job. With de Vries, I might not always be listening anyway, just looking!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #329 on:
January 07, 2009, 04:01:41 PM »
Quote from: Anna on January 07, 2009, 03:53:45 PM
I thought Brinkman did great with his interview. His English is more than sufficient.
Same for Peter R de Vries. And while Peter is a hottie, Brinkman is no slouch. He is causing Monkeys to spend extra time on our hair and make up as well.
I understand Peter was nervous about interviews in English but we Americans are not at all critical of that. I find both totally understandable.
Unfortunately, Mos also has excellent English. He is not so much of a hottie, however, so he is not forgiven.
When they are a hottie, the accent is just cute as can be, lol. But we can understand exactly what they are saying and they do an excellent job.
With de Vries, I might not always be listening anyway, just looking!
We know
Anna
.
Janet
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #790 1/3/09 -
« Reply #498 on: January 05, 2009, 08:23:16 PM »
Peter R deVries is a very handsome man.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4344.msg613281#msg613281
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
bastibro
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Darned! Lok a m when i talk to ya!
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caesu
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #331 on:
January 07, 2009, 04:14:48 PM »
Quote from: Anna on January 07, 2009, 03:53:45 PM
I thought Brinkman did great with his interview. His English is more than sufficient.
Same for Peter R de Vries. And while Peter is a hottie, Brinkman is no slouch. He is causing Monkeys to spend extra time on our hair and make up as well.
I understand Peter was nervous about interviews in English but we Americans are not at all critical of that. I find both totally understandable.
Unfortunately, Mos also has excellent English. He is not so much of a hottie, however, so he is not forgiven.
When they are a hottie, the accent is just cute as can be, lol. But we can understand exactly what they are saying and they do an excellent job. With de Vries, I might not always be listening anyway, just looking!
he is doing allright. he is getting the message through.
but i am used to listen to Peter R. and Brinkman in Dutch, and then they are able to express themselves much better.
it's only a 4 to 5 minutes segment on Greta. in the native language it's easier to put more information in, in the right words.
i just hope Greta will have Brinkman on every few weeks.
Brinkman can then explain in more detail what he is doing and how Aruba and most Dutch political parties are working against him - and by doing that aiding the corruption / cover-up.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Quote from: bastibro on January 07, 2009, 04:03:06 PM
Darned! Lok a m when i talk to ya!
Brinkman is karate Expert !
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Quote from: bastibro on January 07, 2009, 04:03:06 PM
Darned! Lok a m when i talk to ya!
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Johan, ik wist niet dat John v/d Heuvel zulke dikke maatjes was met Jan v/d Straten
Hij pleite hem aardig schoon in Boulevard vanavond.
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Quote from: bastibro on January 07, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Johan, ik wist niet dat John v/d Heuvel zulke dikke maatjes was met Jan v/d Straten
Hij pleite hem aardig schoon in Boulevard vanavond.
bastibro San
Wakarimasan
Arigatogozamsu
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Quote from: bastibro on January 07, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Johan, ik wist niet dat John v/d Heuvel zulke dikke maatjes was met Jan v/d Straten
Hij pleite hem aardig schoon in Boulevard vanavond.
http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlboulevard/miMedia/197048/197053.public.RTL_Boulevard_s11_a5.xml
Van den Heuvel: "if there is one who wants to solve the case... it is Jan van der Straten".
that opinion of Van den Heuvel is worthless as he is friends with Van der Straten.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Quote from: bastibro on January 07, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Johan, ik wist niet dat John v/d Heuvel zulke dikke maatjes was met Jan v/d Straten
Hij pleite hem aardig schoon in Boulevard vanavond.
John vd heuvel was ook op bonaire remember ! en hoe kan hij hem vrijpleiten ? was hij erbij dan ?
Vd Straten is involved !!
Vd Straten is involved !! since the first day ! And maybe that Night !
Vd Straten is involved !!
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January 07, 2009, 04:28:23 PM »
Quote from: caesu on January 07, 2009, 04:26:15 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 07, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Johan, ik wist niet dat John v/d Heuvel zulke dikke maatjes was met Jan v/d Straten
Hij pleite hem aardig schoon in Boulevard vanavond.
http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlboulevard/miMedia/197048/197053.public.RTL_Boulevard_s11_a5.xml
Van den Heuvel: "if there is one who wants to solve the case... it is Jan van der Straten".
that opinion of Van den Heuvel is worthless as he is friends with Van der Straten.
correct URL (windows media player)
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 07, 2009, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 07, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Johan, ik wist niet dat John v/d Heuvel zulke dikke maatjes was met Jan v/d Straten
Hij pleite hem aardig schoon in Boulevard vanavond.
bastibro San
Wakarimasan
Arigatogozamsu
Janet
LOL I use the google translator a lot C`mon Janet, please gimmie this one . .
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===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
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===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
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=> News of the Day
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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