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« Reply #380 on: January 07, 2009, 07:02:05 PM »

Hi texasmom.

Are you packed for your trip to the Fraser Valley of British Columbia for that interrogation of Kermit that will take place over Shoofly pie and sushi rolls at the home of Tamikosmom.

 

Janet

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« Reply #381 on: January 07, 2009, 07:07:53 PM »

http://www.depers.nl/binnenland/275196/Nieuw-onderzoek-Holloway-zaak.html

Landsrecherche is doing the investigation into the initial investigation.


Considering Landrecherche is the Aruba Police Internal Investigations Department (Aruba) ... would this not be a conflict of interest when it is considered that the perception is that the coverup in the Natalee Holloway investigation reached far  beyond Jan Vander Straaten ... it reached to all levels of the Aruban Aministration.

My understanding is the Landrecherche has had an ongoing role in working with the ALE and investigating aspects the Natalee Holloway case and ... for 3 1/2 years has come up with zilch.

Unless the FBI are invited to investigate the Aruban investigation ... I contend it is just another Dog and Pony Show.

Janet

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no sovereign country is ever going to let a foreign bureau from outside their jurisdiction investigate their police force.
imagine for a moment the FBI letting themselves investigated by a foreign bureau.
that only could happen when one country occupies another.

so the FBI is never going to be invited to investigate. maybe a supporting role, but never a leading role.
and the FBI don't even wants that. they've got enough on their hands at home.
because the next day they've got hundreds of demands to investigate other cases in foreign countries.
and rightly so because if foreign bureaus of investigation will start investigating eachother it will result in one big mess without justice ever done. endless lawsuits about jurisdictions, double jeopardy and much more.

Brinkman wants the Rijksrecherche to investigate the investigation.
that's a possible option because it is within the jurisdiction of the Kingdom.
but as of now there is not enough political support for that. but that is shifting slowly in the good direction.

Isn't this one of the main functions of Interpol?  Corruption of police organizations?  They have a whole division devoted to just that.

The Bahamas often turn investigations over to the U.S. when our citizens are involved.  Case in point, the recent death of John Travolta's son Jett.

This has happened many times and with many islands in the Caribbean when there is a death of U.S. citizen.

Aruba is the only one I can remember blocking the FBI from any participation at all.  We have come to expect very different behavior from friends and allies in the region.



I have wondered for quite some time if Caps is connected to Interpol or CIA.

I have wondered for quite some time if Caps is connected to the "powers that be" in Aruba who are behind the coverup that has prevent justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.

 

I do belive the truth will be revealed when the timing is deemed right.

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« Reply #382 on: January 07, 2009, 07:22:51 PM »

Hi texasmom.

Are you packed for your trip to the Fraser Valley of British Columbia for that interrogation of Kermit that will take place over Shoofly pie and sushi rolls at the home of Tamikosmom.

 

Janet

Janet,
My bags are packed.  I can leave in a moments notice!  Considering the distance I will be traveling; I have decided that I will slip one of the son's laptop computers in my bag also.  I don't want to risk withdrawal symptoms due to the lack of my knowledge of the happenings in the SM forum. 

sshhhhh...I haven't told anyone here about my plans yet.  I thought I would mention it on my way out the door.   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #383 on: January 07, 2009, 07:24:51 PM »

Hi texasmom.

Are you packed for your trip to the Fraser Valley of British Columbia for that interrogation of Kermit that will take place over Shoofly pie and sushi rolls at the home of Tamikosmom.

 

Janet



OMG.....I choked on my Rolaids  LOL 
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« Reply #384 on: January 07, 2009, 07:36:23 PM »



The investigation into the girl disappeared in 2005 is one of the most expensive investigation ever into a life offense. "Keep a blow to the arm, but I estimate that the investigation more than 10 million dollars (17.5 million florin) took," said Moss. "I dare the United States to-day with an equally expensive investigation into a life offense for the day to come. This took hands full of money. Netherlands sent F16s and detectives who were here to stay. "

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So was it worth it? Was it worth paying 10 million dollars to protect the individuals responsible for Natalee's disappearance? Did 10 million dollars solve Aruba's problems? Did America forget about Natalee? DID YOU SPEND YOUR FLORINS WISELY?

What, exactly, is the worth of an entire island's reputation?

All that money and no justice for Natalee.

This is really poor fiscal management, Mr. Mos.


The investigation into the girl disappeared in 2005 is one of the most expensive investigation ever into a life offense. "Keep a blow to the arm, but I estimate that the investigation more than 10 million dollars (17.5 million florin) took," said Moss. "I dare the United States to-day with an equally expensive investigation into a life offense for the day to come. This took hands full of money. Netherlands sent F16s and detectives who were here to stay. " BITE ME

IMO if  the ALE  didn't cover this up this all would have been over in a week they did this to themselfs. Bite Me
Did you think Beth would just go away.hahaha for you aruba
I hope ARUBA sinks.
Ok I'm done.
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« Reply #385 on: January 07, 2009, 07:39:12 PM »

HERO BRINKMAN  -ON THE RECORD - FROM ARUBA - 1/06/09

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/bN4mHzhs2po&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/bN4mHzhs2po&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>

Thank You for posting this, with me still being  sick, I missed it,and fell asleep.
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« Reply #386 on: January 07, 2009, 08:01:24 PM »

9:00pm in Aruba.Day 3 in the week of the arrest of a MAJOR player.Still no arrest!2 days left Caps.Will it be Thursday or Friday?

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« Reply #387 on: January 07, 2009, 08:04:48 PM »

Hi texasmom.

Are you packed for your trip to the Fraser Valley of British Columbia for that interrogation of Kermit that will take place over Shoofly pie and sushi rolls at the home of Tamikosmom.

 

Janet



  For no invite!Me and George will zoom around in his boat at Lake Como in Italy.  As long as we get JUSTICE FOR NATALEE i will cope Janet!
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« Reply #388 on: January 07, 2009, 08:09:32 PM »

Sorry for O/T.
I am having a really bad time with pop-ups that come in
through IE.
I have three pop-up blockers
The IE ones send me to the front page to a mug shot of
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The only way out is to shut down and reboot.
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« Reply #389 on: January 07, 2009, 08:10:29 PM »

Hi texasmom.

Are you packed for your trip to the Fraser Valley of British Columbia for that interrogation of Kermit that will take place over Shoofly pie and sushi rolls at the home of Tamikosmom.

 

Janet



  For no invite!Me and George will zoom around in his boat at Lake Como in Italy.  As long as we get JUSTICE FOR NATALEE i will cope Janet!

 

Hey ... you do not have to be invited ... just come.  It is exactly a four hour drive to God's country from Seattle.  Forget about Italy!!!

Janet
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« Reply #390 on: January 07, 2009, 08:11:19 PM »

Hi texasmom.

Are you packed for your trip to the Fraser Valley of British Columbia for that interrogation of Kermit that will take place over Shoofly pie and sushi rolls at the home of Tamikosmom.

 

Janet



  For no invite!Me and George will zoom around in his boat at Lake Como in Italy.  As long as we get JUSTICE FOR NATALEE i will cope Janet!

 

Hey ... you do not have to be invited ... just come.  It is exactly a four hour drive to God's country from Seattle.  Forget about Italy!!!

Janet

... a three hour drive if you do not take bathroom and coffee breaks.

 

Janet
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« Reply #391 on: January 07, 2009, 08:26:43 PM »

Sorry for O/T.
I am having a really bad time with pop-ups that come in
through IE.
I have three pop-up blockers
The IE ones send me to the front page to a mug shot of
Heather Locklear and then multiply that page repeatedly.
The only way out is to shut down and reboot.
Can anyone help me?
TIA

Magnolia - I get very few popups and I use IE7.  I do have my IE7 popup blocker set but that's it.  One thing I don't do is deleted cookies from SM.   

Email dugge if you are having problems and you can't fix.  dugga@scaredmonkeys.com
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« Reply #392 on: January 07, 2009, 08:34:20 PM »

Sorry for O/T.
I am having a really bad time with pop-ups that come in
through IE.
I have three pop-up blockers
The IE ones send me to the front page to a mug shot of
Heather Locklear and then multiply that page repeatedly.
The only way out is to shut down and reboot.
Can anyone help me?
TIA

I personally use FireFox and I never have any problems with pop-ups.  I just re-installed a computer with Windows XP because my SIL's mother (70 yr old) was getting pop-ups of porn.  I finally had to clean the hard drive and re-install everything.  Put on free antivirus software for her and told her to keep her 50 yr old navy son away from her computer when he was visiting.
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« Reply #393 on: January 07, 2009, 08:59:00 PM »

Sorry for O/T.
I am having a really bad time with pop-ups that come in
through IE.
I have three pop-up blockers
The IE ones send me to the front page to a mug shot of
Heather Locklear and then multiply that page repeatedly.
The only way out is to shut down and reboot.
Can anyone help me?
TIA

Magnolia - I get very few popups and I use IE7.  I do have my IE7 popup blocker set but that's it.  One thing I don't do is deleted cookies from SM.   

Email dugge if you are having problems and you can't fix.  dugga@scaredmonkeys.com

Thank you, Klaas.  I will see what I can do.
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« Reply #394 on: January 07, 2009, 09:01:34 PM »

Hi None.

Hugs

Janet
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« Reply #395 on: January 07, 2009, 09:05:02 PM »

Hi None.

Hugs

Janet

Hi Janet.

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« Reply #396 on: January 07, 2009, 09:08:09 PM »

I hope you can see my koala hug Janet ! Mucho hugs !!
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« Reply #397 on: January 07, 2009, 09:08:42 PM »

'afternoon monks

Jen ~ Can you tell me if the Freebirds are still in existence, or has the entire group folded?

Also, do you and Kermit have additional information that you have not divulged regarding the cage?

Thanks, and if you cannot answer, I understand.

This is somewhat of a driveby, but I'll be back later today.
I've been studying in the Persistence thread. 

Hi memphis.

No - Freebirds have not folded.  There are still people there to protect what needs protecting.

I believe all of the high points surrounding the cage and its contents have been divulged - Kyle posted with us starting last March, so there are lots of posts from him.  Mostly peripheral stuff is all that's left, I believe.

But - as Monkeys start pointing out more and more things that could tie into other information Kyle gave us - I'm sure that will come forward as well.

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle: No one else has access or copies of the photos or footage. All fingers point back to me when this leaks.


'when this leaks'...yet, he protests...    

I've wondered all day if this remark was overlooked or not particularly on topic. 

Nonetheless, I still read on and continue to research.  I am still thinking about Sharon's post about who brokered the Persistence search. 
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« Reply #398 on: January 07, 2009, 09:09:32 PM »



Thank you, Klaas.  I will see what I can do.

Something I would love you to do Magnolia is talk to us.  You have been very quiet lately.  I miss you.  I hope all is well.

Hugs

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« Reply #399 on: January 07, 2009, 09:27:50 PM »

Sorry for O/T.
I am having a really bad time with pop-ups that come in
through IE.
I have three pop-up blockers
The IE ones send me to the front page to a mug shot of
Heather Locklear and then multiply that page repeatedly.
The only way out is to shut down and reboot.
Can anyone help me?
TIA

Magnolia - I get very few popups and I use IE7.  I do have my IE7 popup blocker set but that's it.  One thing I don't do is deleted cookies from SM.   

Email dugge if you are having problems and you can't fix.  dugga@scaredmonkeys.com

Thank you, Klaas.  I will see what I can do.




Hi Mags.  How are you?
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