Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 - 1/9/09

[hotping]

Hello, iris44, texasmom, pinetucky, klaasend, Anna and guests!

Keep up the good work! Good night!

Hi IBE...I was a guest just lurking but I wanted to sign on and say Hello and Good Night to You! 

[iris44]

Hotshot

I sincerely desire to know how you, Lou, Iris and other Monkeys who have been staunch supporters of the family's contention that an Aruban coverup has preventing justice from prevailing for Natalee from the getgo ... can defend Kyle Kingman's actions or ... lack of action..

Hotshot ... if Kyle had exposed to the FBI all that he has shared on the Natalee's Freebirds' and the Scared Monkey sites IMMEDIATELY upon arriving on American soil ... maybe ... just maybe pressure could have been brought upon the Aruban "powers that be" to reveal the contents of that cage/trap ... contents that were retrived by the enemy unchallenged by John Silvetti ... contents that Kyle believe could be the remains of Natalee Holloway.

Hotshot ... Kyle's lack of action makes me sooo angry.  It was such a moral betrayal to the family of Natalee Holloway.  They deserve so much more.

Think about.  Would you be defending Kyle Kingman lack of action and John Silvetti's actions if Natalee Holloway was your loved one?

Janet

 

You are misunderstanding me.  I DO NOT BELIEVE KYLE!!!  I think he is a goof and is either stretching the truth or making up stories for reasons of his own (most likely to try to make money).  I am not defending him.  I also didn't say ALL the smart monkeys left.  I have noticed that some very interesting monkeys are not saying much lately.  No bash intended to the rest of the smart monkeys.  I just flat out don't believe there was a Persistence conspiracy or DeVries would be all over it by now.

[IBE]

Why does Steve Croes always have that same expression on his face.  My he is souch a tough guy!

Steve Croes and Lorenzo van Teflon absolutely give me the creeps.

stupid question here, who is Lorenzo van Teflon?

   I call Lorenzo van Rijn, Lorenzo van Teflon because nothing sticks to him.

Is there the same mark on both of them at the same fingers? or do I need new glasses?

[hotping]

Why does Steve Croes always have that same expression on his face.  My he is souch a tough guy!

Steve Croes and Lorenzo van Teflon absolutely give me the creeps.

stupid question here, who is Lorenzo van Teflon?

   I call Lorenzo van Rijn, Lorenzo van Teflon because nothing sticks to him.

Is there the same mark on both of them at the same fingers? or do I need new glasses?

No need for new glasses...I also see marks on both of their hands at the same spot....or maybe I need new glasses too...lol!


Good Night All!

[texasmom]

hmmm, I better not even start speculating on the marks on the hands but that is interesting!

[texasmom]

Goodnight monkeys!   

[texasmom]

             JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!!!!

[bleachedblack]

The marks look like some one might get from punching someone/something? Just a thought......

[caesu]

Dutch MPs slam colleague's remarks in Caribbean

Published: Friday 09 January 2009 07:42 UTC
Last updated: Friday 09 January 2009 07:42 UTC

Dutch MPs, holding talks in Aruba with their counterparts from the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba, have distanced themselves from comments made by one of their delegation. Hero Brinkman, of the right-wing Freedom Party, and one of the Dutch MPs in Aruba, this week again described the administrations of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba as corrupt. His fellow Dutch delegates have now issued a statement stressing they do not share his views.

At the moment, Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles are separate autonomous regions within the kingdom of the Netherlands, enjoying different degrees of self-government. The Dutch MPs and their Antillean and Aruban counterparts are discussing future state reforms in the Caribbean islands.

Mr Brinkman's comments have caused the discussions to be strained, with Wednesday's session being delayed, and Thursday's being suspended for a number of hours. The Dutch government is considering introducing registration for Caribbean youths who emigrate to the Netherlands and repeatedly get into trouble with the police. During a debate on the issue, Mr Brinkman accused the Antilles and Aruba of "sending your rubbish to the Netherlands".

http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/zijlijn/6127640/Dutch-MPs-slam-colleagues-remarks-in-Caribbean

[San]

[blah]

This is totally over the top and these drivebys getting out of hand.

Not one of those things said about me has one word of truth to it.

Kathy, each and every thing you posted about me is a lie.

Is your real purpose to try to destroy this forum?  Why else would you be attacking ME when I have not said one word to you?

I'm thinking this is whats going on around here latley.

Hell, I do not necessarily believe in the Persistence cover up theory and no one here has bashed me about it.  I don't know why people keep coming here saying that they are being bashed for not agreeing unless they are just trying to disrupt or divide an conquer.

I do think a few people were a little harsh on oceanexplorer though, and thats my opinion.

[Blonde]

You know Kath, I haven't met anyone on any board quite like you. And thats NOT a compliment.  Ditto  So don't think it is, I know you have a reading comprehension problem. I hurt someone? HUH?? like when you spread lies about everyone here to Dave's face? Right....does it matter, you dont like Dave all of a sudden now anyway.

Believe me Kath I know exactly what you said. Keep it up and I'll start posting it all. Post it, Blonde knows what all happened as much as I do.  Take that as a threat or the truth coming yer way.

Hidey Hole? I post here that's it. One more accusation from you and your gonna get what you have coming.  Come get me

One more word about Littleone and you're gonna regret you ever knew my name. TRY ME.

You are formally warned.  By You?? And too bad you didn't get the new phone numbers, I'm sure that must have really kicked your ego right square in the whisker biscuit after all the "help" you have done.. you know LIKE BOOKING A TRIP TO ARUBA AT THE TRAVEL SHOW BOYCOTT-  that was yer classiest moment yet.  Once again you have no IDEA, you were not there.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3030.msg396757#msg396757
See the lies..........Go ahead erase before eveyone can see the truth... You got your wish Rob, See ya!!!!!!  Cant be associated with people like this anymore, it brings out the bad in me.

Shall I post the emails that ******* sent me wanting to know why I banned him?  I have those emails and more.  Or the threatening emails he sent to other people?  Please don't start this.  Yes, ******* in a very RUDE post as a Moderator or poster for that matter, asked to be removed.  Instead of removing his account I banned him.  He wasn't happy he was banned. 

Again there are 2 parts to the story right?  yours and his.  as for the emails you both have some pretty good ones I am sure, but if you show, you'll have to show all.  even the ones where he says he quit right?

i don't want to start up anything but, i have always wanted to know what ever happend to that ARU-BAY video that is missing and why Joe Mammana didn't buy it from Ed Smith the guy who has it. sorry my caps are not working today

[RoxiBalboa]

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/09/corrupt-as-hell/
“Corrupt as hell”
by Greta Van Susteren
On Tuesday night, on  ON THE RECORD at 10pm, Hero Brinkman, a Member of the Dutch Parliament, said that both Aruba and the investigation of Natalee Holloway is “corrupt as hell.”  I received this letter in response (I guess Member of the Dutch Parliament Hero Brinkman hit a nerve):

[Nut44x4]

i don't want to start up anything but, i have always wanted to know what ever happend to that ARU-BAY video that is missing and why Joe Mammana didn't buy it from Ed Smith the guy who has it. sorry my caps are not working today[/b]

1. me neither
2. me too
3. anti-capslock day? 

[klaasend]

i don't want to start up anything but, i have always wanted to know what ever happend to that ARU-BAY video that is missing and why Joe Mammana didn't buy it from Ed Smith the guy who has it. sorry my caps are not working today[/b]

1. me neither
2. me too
3. anti-capslock day? 

All the information I could dig up on the Aru-bay site was sent to the family investigators and the FBI back in aug/sept 2005.  Since the website was hosted out of Australia (host master Utah), maybe there was something our FBI was able to do??

WHOIS information for: aru-bay.com:

[whois.melbourneit.com]

Domain Name.......... aru-bay.com
  Creation Date........ 2004-08-06
  Registration Date.... 2004-08-06
  Expiry Date.......... 2009-08-06
  Organisation Name.... INWW Cancelled Domains
  Organisation Address. Level 2
  Organisation Address. 120 King Street
  Organisation Address. Melbourne
  Organisation Address. 3000
  Organisation Address. VIC
  Organisation Address. AUSTRALIA

Admin Name........... Domain Administration Services
  Admin Address........ Level 2
  Admin Address........ 120 King Street
  Admin Address........ Melbourne
  Admin Address........ 3000
  Admin Address........ VIC
  Admin Address........ AUSTRALIA
  Admin Email.......... das@melbourneit.com.au
  Admin Phone.......... +61.3 86242400
  Admin Fax............ +61.3 96202250

Tech Name............ Host Master
  Tech Address......... 1253 N Research Way
  Tech Address......... Suite Q-2500
  Tech Address......... Orem
  Tech Address......... 84097
  Tech Address......... UT
  Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
  Tech Email........... hostmaster@uolwebservices.com
  Tech Phone........... +1.8014376199
  Tech Fax............. +1.8014376020
  Name Server.......... ns3.freeservers.com
  Name Server.......... ns4.freeservers.com

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[Edward]

The marks look like some one might get from punching someone/something? Just a thought......

That is exactly WHAT that is...
He is using the photo opportunity as bragging rights for his abused hands and is why he has the tough guy look on his sour puss face.
For all anyone knows he punched the bathroom door at his home. One way or the other his knuckles are damaged. I am positive it is not from working with his hands like a real man.
They all appear the be Less Then Men on the rock called Aruba.

[Edward]

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/09/corrupt-as-hell/
“Corrupt as hell”
by Greta Van Susteren
On Tuesday night, on  ON THE RECORD at 10pm, Hero Brinkman, a Member of the Dutch Parliament, said that both Aruba and the investigation of Natalee Holloway is “corrupt as hell.”  I received this letter in response (I guess Member of the Dutch Parliament Hero Brinkman hit a nerve):

He needs a lot of American Media Support to Protect Him..NOW.
Everyone should ask Greta to Fully Support him or the Corrupt group will do him in with words and downplay .. They will crucify him politically in there ass-kissing socialist system.
 jmho

[LilPuma]

Ed, there seems to be a gangsta-wannbe mentality among Joran and his "associates".  Where the real men are in Aruba, we don't know, although I'm sure there are a few.  Joran has always shown a need to be the bad guy, tough guy.  Except with Mama Sloot and Joe Tacopina I guess, where he was just a sweet boy.     I would have passed up this Steve Croes discussion except I heard this song on the radio the other day and thought "listen up guys". 

http://www.myspace.com/jackingram

It's the first song that came up when I pulled it the page. 

[Tamikosmom]

Anyone watch the History channel? It's about 2012 etc. and has many new stories this week.

Bring Natalee home!!!!!!!!!

My hubby's favorite channel!!

Janet

[LilPuma]

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/09/corrupt-as-hell/
“Corrupt as hell”
by Greta Van Susteren
On Tuesday night, on  ON THE RECORD at 10pm, Hero Brinkman, a Member of the Dutch Parliament, said that both Aruba and the investigation of Natalee Holloway is “corrupt as hell.”  I received this letter in response (I guess Member of the Dutch Parliament Hero Brinkman hit a nerve):

He needs a lot of American Media Support to Protect Him..NOW.
Everyone should ask Greta to Fully Support him or the Corrupt group will do him in with words and downplay .. They will crucify him politically in there ass-kissing socialist system.
 jmho

I've always wondered if the corruption in Aruba goes deep into the political structure of The Netherlands.  While Aruba is autonomous, the police are trained in The Netherlands, the Judges and prosecutors come from The Netherlands.  I also never was clear about what The Netherlands has the legal-constitutional authority to do about it all.