Natalee Case Discussion #792 1/9/09 - 1/13/09

[Keepthefaith]

Private Eye did stop in not to long ago but didn't post!

I got all excited when I sasw private eye lurking ... gave him a BIG HUG and ... then he left.

 

I must have squeezed him to hard.  I must have hurt him.

 

Janet

It was nice of him to actually let us know that he potentially has been reading!

[Anna]

Well, PI's posts have always been very friendly and favorable of the Monkeys.  I am sure he will post if he has any information to share with us and time permits.

And we don't hug him too hard, lol.

[texasmom]

Private Eye did stop in not to long ago but didn't post!

I got all excited when I sasw private eye lurking ... gave him a BIG HUG and ... then he left.

 

I must have squeezed him to hard.  I must have hurt him.

 

Janet

It was nice of him to actually let us know that he potentially has been reading!

I think so too KTF.  And Janet remember, I thought I skeered him away too; but maybe it was neither of us...maybe there's another reason he didn't post.

 

[Anna]

Speaking of reading, I see Spooky out there in Monkeyland, too!

Big HELLO to SPOOKY!

[Keepthefaith]

Still no luck with Diario.How bout you TM.Hello to A's

No luck for me either, the site is still down.  

Thanx TM.

[Tamikosmom]

What angers me is that Simian, Simian's brother, and many others claim to have inside information about Natalee's demise and choose to speak in riddles.  I've read and read and discussed and discussed till the cows come home, but I have no faith in these riddlers.  It's only my humble opinion, but I do believe they are part of the "misinformation"/"disinformation" campaign intended to befuddle and confuse and obscure any truth.  I have to place Capslock in this category--sorry if I offend.  The truth is there.  If any one person knows the truth, then he/she needs to speak it plainly and clearly to the Holloway family and FBI.  Enough already.

 

   Janet made it home alright!!!! 

Yes I did.

The main roads were clear of snow.  Chinese food is not my favorite but it did hit the spot tonight.  Company was great.  However ... only one quick game of Scabble to pacify me.  Friends had plans tomorrow and ... wanted an early night.

Thanks texasmom.

Janet

[Anna]

Does anyone know when Carnival starts in Aruba?  Lots happens around that time. 

[Keepthefaith]

Well, PI's posts have always been very friendly and favorable of the Monkeys.  I am sure he will post if he has any information to share with us and time permits.

And we don't hug him too hard, lol.

I would also believe if Kermit and what the Freebirds are doing is wrong,as some posters have implied he'd let us know!I stand with the Frog..

[texasmom]

Does anyone know when Carnival starts in Aruba?  Lots happens around that time. 

It's already started and goes through Feb 24th IIRC.

[Tamikosmom]

Private Eye did stop in not to long ago but didn't post!

I got all excited when I sasw private eye lurking ... gave him a BIG HUG and ... then he left.

 

I must have squeezed him to hard.  I must have hurt him.

 

Janet

It was nice of him to actually let us know that he potentially has been reading!

I think so too KTF.  And Janet remember, I thought I skeered him away too; but maybe it was neither of us...maybe there's another reason he didn't post.

 

No.  I do not think so.  Between my hug and your request ... I think he panicked.  Poor guy.

 

Janet

[texasmom]

Private Eye did stop in not to long ago but didn't post!

I got all excited when I sasw private eye lurking ... gave him a BIG HUG and ... then he left.
 
I must have squeezed him to hard.  I must have hurt him.
 
Janet

It was nice of him to actually let us know that he potentially has been reading!

I think so too KTF.  And Janet remember, I thought I skeered him away too; but maybe it was neither of us...maybe there's another reason he didn't post.
 

No.  I do not think so.  Between my hug and your request ... I think he panicked.  Poor guy.
 
Janet

 

[texasmom]

1/10/2009 Bondia

http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2

[Tamikosmom]

Well, PI's posts have always been very friendly and favorable of the Monkeys.  I am sure he will post if he has any information to share with us and time permits.

And we don't hug him too hard, lol.

I would also believe if Kermit and what the Freebirds are doing is wrong,as some posters have implied he'd let us know!I stand with the Frog..

Keepthefaith

The matter has been settled.  You fret too much friend.  Hugs.  I hope you had a good day.

The letter from Jen ... the former administrator of the Natalee's Freebirds ... made it very clear that Beth provided permission to the Natalee's Freebirds to expose Kyle Kingman's posts which exposed the deception of Persistence undertaking.

Janet

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klassend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #787 12/24/08 -
« Reply #411 on: December 30, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »

Sent to me by Natalee's Freebirds:

Please feel free (if you'd like) to post this at your board.
 
During the journey of the Persistence to Aruba, Kyle reached out and emailed with us.  During that time, one of the questions posed to him was regarding protocol if/when Natalee's remains were found.
 
Kyle's response was that he was unsure, but felt that would be settled before the search began.
 
The cautions were given to him about the lack of integrity on the part of Aruba's law enforcement, prosecutor's office, and its judiciary.
 
Contact with Kyle continued throughout the duration of the search by the Persistence.
 
Once back home, Kyle asked us for our help.  He was very concerned about the activities that transpired during their search - specifically surrounding the find of the fishing cage and its contents.  Kyle wanted our help in presenting this information in a factual way, to then be given to Natalee's family. 
 
This was March 18, 2008.  At that time, Kyle assured us he had just recently sent the images from the Dec 30th and Jan 7th dives to the FBI, but had never received a response from them.
 
We later found that to be false.
 
Also at that time, Beth's brother saw the images Kyle had shared with us - but none of the detail he shared later.

We compiled the images Kyle presented us, along with his opinions and the facts surrounding the sequence of events regarding that fishing cage.  Kyle stated he would be getting in touch with Beth Holloway.
 
We later found out that never happened.

At this time, Kyle shared with us the broadcast networks he had approached in February, in an attempt to sell these images to the highest bidder.
 
This didn't concern us greatly at that time - as we were under the impression US law enforcement and Natalee's family had already been made aware of their find.
 
Approximately May 2008 Kyle began dodging questions for details (we had asked for names of Aruban police and divers to be included in our documentation of these events), hedging on moving forward with this, and then he completely disappeared from our board.
 
During that time, we learned Kyle had never contacted Beth, or Dave, or the FBI with this information.
 
We put our original plan into motion - that of presenting this information in a clear and concise manner, and we sent it to Beth Holloway.
 
Beth was disturbed, needed time to digest the information, and wanted to share it with someone she trusts.
 
When Tim Miller was returning to Aruba this past fall, Beth gave us permission to release this information publicly.
 
At that point, we gave it to John Kelly, Carmen Adams with the FBI, and got it ready for public consumption.
 
The next step was to publish this information at our blog.
 
One of our members felt we were betraying Kyle in doing so, contacted him, and he re-surfaced at our site with threats of litigation against us - stating this was his "intellectual property" and we could not use it.
 
That of course concerned us greatly - as none of us could afford to be sued.
 
He also stated at that time, Luis Shaefer had just recently sold the rights of the video of these images to a broadcast company for the purposes of a documentary.
 
We contacted legal counsel and were advised to keep our distance from any Persistence crew member, in the face of potential obstruction/accessory charges.
 
At this point, one of our members decided to brace for the possibility of civil litigation, resigned from our membership to protect it from same, and posted what he knows to be factual at SM.
 
Kyle did tell us human remains were found in that fish cage.
 
Kyle did tell us about John Silvetti's intent to open an office on the island of Aruba, to enable him ease in conducting business in South America, and Aruba.
 
Kyle also told us of John's absolute refusal to give that fish cage and its contents any credence - before even it was inspected on Jan 7th.
 
Kyle told us in no uncertain terms that Tim Miller and Dateline were abruptly removed from the Persistence on Dec 30, resulting in only Persistence crew being aboard between that date and the Jan 7 dive of the Arubans.
 
Nothing that was posted at SM by kermit was incorrect, out of context, or in any way false.
Regards,
 
Former Natalee's Freebirds Administrator
Natalee and her family deserve justice - and we will not let up until they have it!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.msg603349#msg603349

[Keepthefaith]

Goodnight Monkey's.My energy is still depleted due to arrest week! If anyone talks to CapsLockWizard tell him i'm very disappointed.Also ask him who the hell gave him that information!

[Keepthefaith]

Well, PI's posts have always been very friendly and favorable of the Monkeys.  I am sure he will post if he has any information to share with us and time permits.

And we don't hug him too hard, lol.

I would also believe if Kermit and what the Freebirds are doing is wrong,as some posters have implied he'd let us know!I stand with the Frog..

Keepthefaith

The matter has been settled.  You fret too much friend.  Hugs.  I hope you had a good day.

The letter from Jen ... the former administrator of the Natalee's Freebirds ... made it very clear that Beth provided permission to the Natalee's Freebirds to expose Kyle Kingman's posts which exposed the deception of Persistence undertaking.

Janet

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klassend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #787 12/24/08 -
« Reply #411 on: December 30, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »

Sent to me by Natalee's Freebirds:

Please feel free (if you'd like) to post this at your board.
 
During the journey of the Persistence to Aruba, Kyle reached out and emailed with us.  During that time, one of the questions posed to him was regarding protocol if/when Natalee's remains were found.
 
Kyle's response was that he was unsure, but felt that would be settled before the search began.
 
The cautions were given to him about the lack of integrity on the part of Aruba's law enforcement, prosecutor's office, and its judiciary.
 
Contact with Kyle continued throughout the duration of the search by the Persistence.
 
Once back home, Kyle asked us for our help.  He was very concerned about the activities that transpired during their search - specifically surrounding the find of the fishing cage and its contents.  Kyle wanted our help in presenting this information in a factual way, to then be given to Natalee's family. 
 
This was March 18, 2008.  At that time, Kyle assured us he had just recently sent the images from the Dec 30th and Jan 7th dives to the FBI, but had never received a response from them.
 
We later found that to be false.
 
Also at that time, Beth's brother saw the images Kyle had shared with us - but none of the detail he shared later.

We compiled the images Kyle presented us, along with his opinions and the facts surrounding the sequence of events regarding that fishing cage.  Kyle stated he would be getting in touch with Beth Holloway.
 
We later found out that never happened.

At this time, Kyle shared with us the broadcast networks he had approached in February, in an attempt to sell these images to the highest bidder.
 
This didn't concern us greatly at that time - as we were under the impression US law enforcement and Natalee's family had already been made aware of their find.
 
Approximately May 2008 Kyle began dodging questions for details (we had asked for names of Aruban police and divers to be included in our documentation of these events), hedging on moving forward with this, and then he completely disappeared from our board.
 
During that time, we learned Kyle had never contacted Beth, or Dave, or the FBI with this information.
 
We put our original plan into motion - that of presenting this information in a clear and concise manner, and we sent it to Beth Holloway.
 
Beth was disturbed, needed time to digest the information, and wanted to share it with someone she trusts.
 
When Tim Miller was returning to Aruba this past fall, Beth gave us permission to release this information publicly.
 
At that point, we gave it to John Kelly, Carmen Adams with the FBI, and got it ready for public consumption.
 
The next step was to publish this information at our blog.
 
One of our members felt we were betraying Kyle in doing so, contacted him, and he re-surfaced at our site with threats of litigation against us - stating this was his "intellectual property" and we could not use it.
 
That of course concerned us greatly - as none of us could afford to be sued.
 
He also stated at that time, Luis Shaefer had just recently sold the rights of the video of these images to a broadcast company for the purposes of a documentary.
 
We contacted legal counsel and were advised to keep our distance from any Persistence crew member, in the face of potential obstruction/accessory charges.
 
At this point, one of our members decided to brace for the possibility of civil litigation, resigned from our membership to protect it from same, and posted what he knows to be factual at SM.
 
Kyle did tell us human remains were found in that fish cage.
 
Kyle did tell us about John Silvetti's intent to open an office on the island of Aruba, to enable him ease in conducting business in South America, and Aruba.
 
Kyle also told us of John's absolute refusal to give that fish cage and its contents any credence - before even it was inspected on Jan 7th.
 
Kyle told us in no uncertain terms that Tim Miller and Dateline were abruptly removed from the Persistence on Dec 30, resulting in only Persistence crew being aboard between that date and the Jan 7 dive of the Arubans.
 
Nothing that was posted at SM by kermit was incorrect, out of context, or in any way false.
Regards,
 
Former Natalee's Freebirds Administrator
Natalee and her family deserve justice - and we will not let up until they have it!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.msg603349#msg603349

Thanx for bringing be back to Reality.Arrest week really distracted me! I really try to give people the benefit of the doubt but find it harder every day when it comes to the issue of the Persistence.What more does someone need?Those who stand behind Kyle,as well as say that the Persistence is a diversion just confuse me!

[texasmom]

Goodnight Monkey's.My energy is still depleted due to arrest week! If anyone talks to CapsLockWizard tell him i'm very disappointed.Also ask him who the hell gave him that information!

Goodnight Keepthefaith!  

[spooky112483]

Speaking of reading, I see Spooky out there in Monkeyland, too!

Big HELLO to SPOOKY!

Hello Anna!! Can you believe we are still here after all this time? It feels like 2 years ago what with posters being decieving and other anti monkey boards popping up. Just like old times, eh? LOL.
What is this about JQK going to Aruba? I see that Greta going to Aruba didn't pan out so where are we hearing this about JQK? Boy, that Hero Brinkman really came out swinging. My kind of guy.
I agree with AZ. After almost 4 years enough of the puzzles and riddles.
We demand justice everywhere. I am so sickened by the "us vs. them" mentality in regards to Aruba, like you said Anna.
BTW Could somebody change my clothes?  I'm still dressed from last Easter
I love you all!

[Tamikosmom]

Well, PI's posts have always been very friendly and favorable of the Monkeys.  I am sure he will post if he has any information to share with us and time permits.

And we don't hug him too hard, lol.

I would also believe if Kermit and what the Freebirds are doing is wrong,as some posters have implied he'd let us know!I stand with the Frog..

Keepthefaith

The matter has been settled.  You fret too much friend.  Hugs.  I hope you had a good day.

The letter from Jen ... the former administrator of the Natalee's Freebirds ... made it very clear that Beth provided permission to the Natalee's Freebirds to expose Kyle Kingman's posts which exposed the deception of Persistence undertaking.

Janet

+++++++


klassend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #787 12/24/08 -
« Reply #411 on: December 30, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »

Sent to me by Natalee's Freebirds:

Please feel free (if you'd like) to post this at your board.
 
During the journey of the Persistence to Aruba, Kyle reached out and emailed with us.  During that time, one of the questions posed to him was regarding protocol if/when Natalee's remains were found.
 
Kyle's response was that he was unsure, but felt that would be settled before the search began.
 
The cautions were given to him about the lack of integrity on the part of Aruba's law enforcement, prosecutor's office, and its judiciary.
 
Contact with Kyle continued throughout the duration of the search by the Persistence.
 
Once back home, Kyle asked us for our help.  He was very concerned about the activities that transpired during their search - specifically surrounding the find of the fishing cage and its contents.  Kyle wanted our help in presenting this information in a factual way, to then be given to Natalee's family. 
 
This was March 18, 2008.  At that time, Kyle assured us he had just recently sent the images from the Dec 30th and Jan 7th dives to the FBI, but had never received a response from them.
 
We later found that to be false.
 
Also at that time, Beth's brother saw the images Kyle had shared with us - but none of the detail he shared later.

We compiled the images Kyle presented us, along with his opinions and the facts surrounding the sequence of events regarding that fishing cage.  Kyle stated he would be getting in touch with Beth Holloway.
 
We later found out that never happened.

At this time, Kyle shared with us the broadcast networks he had approached in February, in an attempt to sell these images to the highest bidder.
 
This didn't concern us greatly at that time - as we were under the impression US law enforcement and Natalee's family had already been made aware of their find.
 
Approximately May 2008 Kyle began dodging questions for details (we had asked for names of Aruban police and divers to be included in our documentation of these events), hedging on moving forward with this, and then he completely disappeared from our board.
 
During that time, we learned Kyle had never contacted Beth, or Dave, or the FBI with this information.
 
We put our original plan into motion - that of presenting this information in a clear and concise manner, and we sent it to Beth Holloway.
 
Beth was disturbed, needed time to digest the information, and wanted to share it with someone she trusts.
 
When Tim Miller was returning to Aruba this past fall, Beth gave us permission to release this information publicly.
 
At that point, we gave it to John Kelly, Carmen Adams with the FBI, and got it ready for public consumption.
 
The next step was to publish this information at our blog.
 
One of our members felt we were betraying Kyle in doing so, contacted him, and he re-surfaced at our site with threats of litigation against us - stating this was his "intellectual property" and we could not use it.
 
That of course concerned us greatly - as none of us could afford to be sued.
 
He also stated at that time, Luis Shaefer had just recently sold the rights of the video of these images to a broadcast company for the purposes of a documentary.
 
We contacted legal counsel and were advised to keep our distance from any Persistence crew member, in the face of potential obstruction/accessory charges.
 
At this point, one of our members decided to brace for the possibility of civil litigation, resigned from our membership to protect it from same, and posted what he knows to be factual at SM.
 
Kyle did tell us human remains were found in that fish cage.
 
Kyle did tell us about John Silvetti's intent to open an office on the island of Aruba, to enable him ease in conducting business in South America, and Aruba.
 
Kyle also told us of John's absolute refusal to give that fish cage and its contents any credence - before even it was inspected on Jan 7th.
 
Kyle told us in no uncertain terms that Tim Miller and Dateline were abruptly removed from the Persistence on Dec 30, resulting in only Persistence crew being aboard between that date and the Jan 7 dive of the Arubans.
 
Nothing that was posted at SM by kermit was incorrect, out of context, or in any way false.
Regards,
 
Former Natalee's Freebirds Administrator
Natalee and her family deserve justice - and we will not let up until they have it!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.msg603349#msg603349

Thanx for bringing be back to Reality.Arrest week really distracted me! I really try to give people the benefit of the doubt but find it harder every day when it comes to the issue of the Persistence.What more does someone need?Those who stand behind Kyle,as well as say that the Persistence is a diversion just confuse me!

Good Night Keepthefaith!!  Good Night Monkeys!!  Good Night Zookeepers!!

Janet
10:30 PM PT

[Keepthefaith]

GOODNIGHT ALL!

Keepthefaith, Tamikosmom, Seamonkey, spooky112483, texasmom, klaasend, Anna, Mere, ospainter, BUCKSHOT

Please call the BIG RED phone if the Major player is arrested!

[texasmom]

Good to see you Spooky!


Goodnight Janet!