Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #88

[Desdemona]

So how are they planning on keeping anyone out of a public memorial?   Are they selling tickets? 

Shhhh...don't give them any ideas 

Maybe if Lenny showed up without his hat...they wouldn't recognize him 

Hi Searcher, did you have donuts and coffee at your meeting tonite???

Hi...my name is Sea Searcher, I'm addicted to pretty kitty's

It's been 9 hours and 21 minutes since I scratched a pretty kitty behind the ears..

Hi Elvis, er, I mean, Sea Searcher!  Congratulations, it would be over 10 hours now, right?

Oh, wait a minute!  ... ("behind the ears...")

So if not behind the ears, where HAVE you been scratching the pretty kitties all this time?!   

[NewfieMonkey]

In my neighborhood, we have the "association" .  We have meetings and parties and a man to sand the streets and someone to decorate the entry, etc.  So each person has a book with everyones name and address and kids, etc. in it.  Do you think it is possible that the Anthonys had that and that is how Casey came up with the name???

It all sounds much to complicated for KC to be bothered with... JMO pretty kitty

Do you really think she has more smarts than the monkey collective ??? look how much work (good work) that was put into the ZG theory..she wanted a quick answer and got one before it interfeared with her nights on the town... IMO

Okay - so no one else thinks this ZG is just a scammer?  Woe is me ...

And on to more important matters ... what time is coffee in the AM Sea?  I'll be up bright and early waiting for you! 

Night!

[Kat_Gram]

Those beads that Padilla was on about ? Those beads are everywhere in Orlando in kids stuff at Disney & Universal. Must get boxcars full of them. GD ( 2 year old ) came home with same plastic junky beady stuff from there last month. 

[heykim]

the thing that bothers me (and believe me there are ALOT of them)... is just WHAT DID casey spend all of her free time DOING? IF SHE WASNT WORKING ... where WAS she? what DID she do? will the computers tell us that? did she just drive around? did ANYONE ever SEE her anywhere (besides the guy who THOUGHT he saw her joggiing) and the TARGET stores and such.. WHERE WAS SHE?

didnt ANYONE ever see her? now that it is so high profile, didnt ANYONE come forward to say..oh yeah..i saw her  with or without the baby HERE, or THERE, or parked  or AT the park..or ANYWHERE?

did she always go back after friends or family went to work and sneak back to hang out?

where WAS she.. what was she DOING???

I am willing to bet she did a lot of this. At her house and at Lee's, when he was at work. Where else she spent time, is anyone's guess.

i recall george saying that casey told lee ALOT OF THINGS they didnt know..
i wonder IF lee allowed her to be at his house.. if he KNEW she didnt have a JOB, and she didnt NEED a nanny or sitter..(yanno that NANNY CRAP really ticks me off.. i always think of a NANNY as a LIVE IN sitter.. not someone who you drop your child off with at the STORE or at a STEP or at the PARK as casey said she did...)

[wendiw8780]

Did Kronk mention the T where Suburban met another street in one of his 911 calls?  I seem to recall that he did, but I may be mistaken.

I keep thinking of Cindy saying that there is "truth" in things that Casey says but you have to really look for it, as if she had been doing that for a while.

Does Casey talk in a kind of code that other people find hard to understand?  Did Cindy know that Casey was prone to do this, and is that why she kept telling the cops that there was always some truth in what she said?

The Zenaida  and Gonzalez names on their very street -- well, if that is coincidence, it is a strange one.  Those two names are very common among Hispanics, but still...that is intriguing to say the least.

Cindy clearly knew Casey had problems.  The "look at the camera so I can see your eyes" during one visit was so telling.  She felt by looking into Casey's eyes she could tell if the girl was lying.  Of course, the girl was always lying, it seems.

I am sure the Anthonys and Lee are probably worried about what she will say about them.  Her head is so full of random thoughts and associations.  And yet they all connect in weird ways.  It's like the detective said, she picks up ideas from all over the place and then uses them when needed to spin a tale.  The ideas and facts might come from books, movies, names of people on her street, songs, names of schoolmates or co-workers, things that happened to friends or family...just whatever from where ever.  She stores them all in her mind, and when she needs them to explain herself or make an excuse or embellish a story, she pulls them out.

It is bizarre.  It wonder if there is a name for it, besides lying. 

so when KC was being interviewed at universal and the detectives said something like "so everything you've told us is a lie, KC says NOT EVERYTHING" she was being truthful, in a backwards kind of way.

wendi

[crazybabyborg]

In my neighborhood, we have the "association" .  We have meetings and parties and a man to sand the streets and someone to decorate the entry, etc.  So each person has a book with everyones name and address and kids, etc. in it.  Do you think it is possible that the Anthonys had that and that is how Casey came up with the name???

It all sounds much to complicated for KC to be bothered with... JMO pretty kitty

Do you really think she has more smarts than the monkey collective ??? look how much work (good work) that was put into the ZG theory..she wanted a quick answer and got one before it interfeared with her nights on the town... IMO

Okay - so no one else thinks this ZG is just a scammer?  Woe is me ...

And on to more important matters ... what time is coffee in the AM Sea?  I'll be up bright and early waiting for you! 

Night!

I'm not discounting you, Newfie. I just don't know, that's all. It's hard for me to get past how evil Casey is to look very hard at other people's meaness.

[dottie]

While nothing is certain yet, Conway said the Anthony's have made one thing clear; Leonard Padilla, the bounty hunter who was in and out of the case on several occasions, will not be invited or let in.

The Anthony's sure show their preferences don't they.  Why???  because Leonard is honest and straightforward.

All they want is the rest of the liars to attend.

Keep it in the family, I guess.   That is sooooo sad. 

With all that they are dealing with, that should be the last thing on their mind, and frankly making a statement like that just shows how spiteful the whole family is.

Hmmmm....signs of where KC learned her "spiteful b**ch" attitude??   

GUESS THAT'S THE THANKS YOU GET WHEN YOU SPEND 50,000 TO GET THEIR SLORE DAUGHTER OUT OF JAIL!!!!!   CASEY SHOULD BE THE ONE THEY DON'T WANT THERE!!!! [/color]

[Desdemona]

Hello, been reading back a bit. Padiila will probably be in good company with those not wanted at the service. Will any of the Grunds be special guests ? How about the Fox Orlando Blog people who made the litle crosses and signs ? Who spent hours trying to find clues ? The searchers ? Whay about Yuri ? John Allen ? Kathy Bellich ?

  One!

I do remember some FBI guy who Padiila worked with  ( maybe wrong word ) for / or whatever, it was a man from the FBI who had a high professional opion of Padilla. And, I want to add, he did call Nick Savage ( FBI lead investigator ) about the situation between Dom Casey and Houston, else, this information would not have become public record as it did and the possible attempt to again blame the " someone else " for placing the remains in the woods when Casey was in jail. Dom Casey cannot be used by Baez now to further muddy the waters. This was a good thing Padilla did here.
Did Padilla think Cindy & George were going to give him a big thank you for being the thorn in their side, the person in their house who gave us a glimpse of the dynamics in the house ?

    Two!
  

I am dying for the next DOC DUMP !

  Three!

And whazzauppa with the back door of the funeral home being shown on NG ?
They say Wow, those pix could be worth 50,000.00, they show back door and back lane. I almost expected a banner across the screen saying : EASY PEASY bad guys who have crowbar ? and needs money ? 

  Home Run, KatGram!!  Love this post.

[tcumom]

the thing that bothers me (and believe me there are ALOT of them)... is just WHAT DID casey spend all of her free time DOING? IF SHE WASNT WORKING ... where WAS she? what DID she do? will the computers tell us that? did she just drive around? did ANYONE ever SEE her anywhere (besides the guy who THOUGHT he saw her joggiing) and the TARGET stores and such.. WHERE WAS SHE?

didnt ANYONE ever see her? now that it is so high profile, didnt ANYONE come forward to say..oh yeah..i saw her  with or without the baby HERE, or THERE, or parked  or AT the park..or ANYWHERE?

did she always go back after friends or family went to work and sneak back to hang out?

where WAS she.. what was she DOING???

I've wondered and asked months ago if anyone thought she was maybe hanging out at Lee's house . . . . surely, he knew the truth about her.

[heykim]

okey doke yall... i am headin out..

see yall later... and g'nite to all of ya that are leaving as well...

[wendiw8780]

OK, I put together an email stating all this location Zaneida Gonzalez info. I copied scaredmonkey address's of the exact posts and the fricking awesome map! So they should have all the links and information.

I sent this to LP and to John Morgan to help in his case against KC. Actually there was no email listed on his site, but they offer a live chat and this gal comes on How may I assist you? Very cool! Then she gave me Mr. Morgan's email.

So if LP mentions it or Morgan, it's due to you monkeys!!!! 

Just got off the phone with a very nice lady from the CNN Nancy Grace news room.  I gave her the details to read here and what we had found.  They are going to come on to SM per the link I gave to see the maps, the transcrips highlighted, and of course the names coinciding with the addresses.  She said that they always investigate the leads and tips given, so it would not have made tonights episode any way regardless of my calls.
SO now we have LP on it, Yuri in on it, NG's people on it, and Mr. Morgan!!

MONKEYS ROCK!

Thanks Dolce, Boo and all Monkeys. I really hope Yuri gets to this info first. Glad the babies are doing good. JSM

JUST TO ADD....she did ask me..."ARE YOU RESEARCHING THIS AS A PROJECT FOR SCHOOL SWEETY?"

I told her "No I am with a Forum.  We are a Forum of adults of all ages." 
That is when I gave her the info again and she started taking me a bit more seriously.

She apologized!

Dolce, i know how you feel. sometimes when people call my house, they ask me "can i speak to your mommy or daddy?" lol.

wendi

[Orchidwmn]

Did Kronk mention the T where Suburban met another street in one of his 911 calls?  I seem to recall that he did, but I may be mistaken.

I keep thinking of Cindy saying that there is "truth" in things that Casey says but you have to really look for it, as if she had been doing that for a while.

Does Casey talk in a kind of code that other people find hard to understand?  Did Cindy know that Casey was prone to do this, and is that why she kept telling the cops that there was always some truth in what she said?

The Zenaida  and Gonzalez names on their very street -- well, if that is coincidence, it is a strange one.  Those two names are very common among Hispanics, but still...that is intriguing to say the least.

Cindy clearly knew Casey had problems.  The "look at the camera so I can see your eyes" during one visit was so telling.  She felt by looking into Casey's eyes she could tell if the girl was lying.  Of course, the girl was always lying, it seems.

I am sure the Anthonys and Lee are probably worried about what she will say about them.  Her head is so full of random thoughts and associations.  And yet they all connect in weird ways.  It's like the detective said, she picks up ideas from all over the place and then uses them when needed to spin a tale.  The ideas and facts might come from books, movies, names of people on her street, songs, names of schoolmates or co-workers, things that happened to friends or family...just whatever from where ever.  She stores them all in her mind, and when she needs them to explain herself or make an excuse or embellish a story, she pulls them out.

It is bizarre.  It wonder if there is a name for it, besides lying. 

so when KC was being interviewed at universal and the detectives said something like "so everything you've told us is a lie, KC says NOT EVERYTHING" she was being truthful, in a backwards kind of way.

wendi

Yeah, she told them her name honestly.

[da sparkenator]

"You see your Honor, my hand is like my five
personalities.  My pinkie represents my hard
working event planner personna.  My ring finger
represents the almost wife to Jesse personna.  My
pointer finger represents the low-self image personna
I received from my mother.  The thumb represents
the shot girl at Fusion personna.  And the middle finger
represents the contempt I have for being in this
court house."

And the fingers on my other hand and my toes represent everyone I have slept with in law or law enforcement to get the results that I want . . .

[Sea Searcher]

In my neighborhood, we have the "association" .  We have meetings and parties and a man to sand the streets and someone to decorate the entry, etc.  So each person has a book with everyones name and address and kids, etc. in it.  Do you think it is possible that the Anthonys had that and that is how Casey came up with the name???

It all sounds much to complicated for KC to be bothered with... JMO pretty kitty

Do you really think she has more smarts than the monkey collective ??? look how much work (good work) that was put into the ZG theory..she wanted a quick answer and got one before it interfeared with her nights on the town... IMO

Okay - so no one else thinks this ZG is just a scammer?  Woe is me ...

And on to more important matters ... what time is coffee in the AM Sea?  I'll be up bright and early waiting for you! 

Night!

I was refering to the property name theory developed here...as far as ZG being a scammer.. I think I'm 50/50 on that...really not sure...but having her law suit in the mix is a good thing for the case as a whole..I don't know Mr Morgan but if he's as good as many Florida monkeys have said..then he could really help the overall prosecution which I would be very happy about...
Coffee may be late tomorrow...hoping the kids will sleep late..funny how I have to drag them out of bed to catch the school bus but on Saturday morning they're up at 5 am 

Night Night Newfie   

[Kat_Gram]

See y'all tomorrow. I am going to read a Kathy Reichs book and then give her a bad review. LOL 

[luckycharmsprincess]

I've had many random thoughts but no one's post to attach it to, so I am just going to vent a bit. 

I've been wondering something....about LP and Tim Miller. Cindy seems to make it known LP is not welcome. This is one of the few people in the beginning to be so generous and aiding them in getting her out. When I first started watching this on NG in July and Casey was telling her parents how the cops twisted everything around or that she couldn't help from in the jail. OK, back up. The text message to all of her friends stating Caylee was missing only came out when Cindy tracked her down. Cindy or Lee posted info on her MySpace page to 'get the word out.' So, she gets out and doesn't do anything, just like she didn't do anything since 6-16-08 to look for her daughter.

LP says, put her back in! I'm trying to follow the logic here.
Let's do a short comparison:
LP put up money for her bail. Cindy hates LP.
Casey kills Caylee. Cindy loves Casey.

What about this doesn't make sense????? Cindy didn't ever want Tim Miller out there searching. I mean, it was plainly obvious she had issue with his team searching. Cindy doesn't like anyone. She didn't like Kiomarie, Jesse, Richard Grund, LP, Tim Miller, Casey, George (remember George moved out in 2005), the OSCO, I'm sure there are others.

Casey is a Psychopath, but what is Cindy? Delusional? In Denial? Hiding a secret? Everyone has a motive in life for something. I would like to know what Cindy's motive is for making it abundantly clear she did not want Tim snooping around or LP associated with the case. Maybe Cindy is a spiteful bitch too.

Yesterday, I went back to read George's 7-24-08 interview, he states Baez wanted to get that "Dog Guy." I'm not sure how that relates to Leonard, specifically. Could he have meant, Dog the Bounty Hunter, who has his own show on TV? Seems like he would be in line with a more 'high profile' case since most people have heard of him. George also stated that Baez was in this for other reasons....he implies, perhaps money. That was on 7-24-08. So, on 7-24-08, there were already questions and judgments being formed. George might be the one in the family with Dissociative Personality Disorder as he seems to flip flop based on how the wind blows down in Florida. One day he has 'concerns' over the smell, the next he believes it was a Squirrel or Pizza, one day he has 'concerns' about Casey and the next he supports her 100%.

FAST FORWARD to the Larry King interview on 12-10-08. I had not seen this video until yesterday. I was in shock. Complete shock. George and Cindy are sitting there on Larry King telling the caller it was PIZZA, rotten PIZZA in the car that made the smell and on and on about the hot Florida weather, etc. Ummmm, Cindy, George already TOLD the detectives that he told you it was Pizza so you wouldn't get hysterical. That was in July /August 08 but now on 12-10-08 they are back to the Pizza theory. I think by this time, there was already proof no pizza was even in the car.

Cindy told Larry that only one of the photos that had been released of Casey partying was actually taken AFTER Caylee's disappearance. She has proof, she says. Those photos were for PR related work to promote Club Fusion. Ok, I am not Annie Leibowitz, but.....those pictures of Casey dancing with other girls and random guys do NOT look like PR photos. Cindy claims Casey was 'working' and was paid. I am going to assume this is the 'PROOF' she means.

On 12-10-08-they were adamant that Caylee was alive, after being spotted in California 4 days prior. Completely standing behind Casey, casting doubt on the entire OSCO, how they were all victimized by the OSCO......blah blah blah. The next day they ask for Immunity. Now, to hear their attorney say they love her, support her and want to know the truth, well, that's a very mis-leading statement. Ok, I get it they love her. I am a parent, I get it. Support her? Well, supporting her how? Because his next statement is they want to know the truth, which implies they have doubts she is telling the truth.

I get very upset with these Yahoos they call Defense Attorney's on NG....only a few of them seem competent. Ok, so being a liar doesn't make you a murderer, ok fair, that is a true statement. Ok, no phone number for the Nanny, no email for the Nanny, no picture of the Nanny. Hmmm, now things don't really make sense. Ok, decomp in the trunk, prescence of chloroform, a hair that seems to match Caylee's with a death ring on it. Defense says, still means that it could have been someone else. And of course there is Cindy telling the media that maybe someone put a dead body in the car AFTER. Yeah, like this happens all the time in Orlando, those damn dead bodies are always getting shuffled from car to car...you never know when one will turn up. It is not like they are The Sopranos. Give me a freaking break! And then tonight on NG, we have compelling Forensic evidence due to plants and bugs that the body was there for X amount of days. The defense was yammering about how it still doesn't mean Casey did it. OK.....everyone bought Entomology as evidence in Silence of the Lambs, right? WE all thought...WOWIE when the Jodie Foster pulled the moth out of the victim's mouth. We have grass growing through bones YAHOOS and bugs that multiply based on seasons. Add in the computer searches. Add in Tony stating he didn't want children or only male children. Add in the borrowed shovel. Add in the frantic calls on the 16th to Cindy and George. Add in the lies Casey told them during the rest of June and July until she was found with Tony. Add in the crazy PIs. This is what we know. Think about what we don't know. I get very sick to my stomach when a Yahoo (defense attorney) starts talking about how it's not proof to show Casey did it. Ok, so who did? I mean, how does anyone ever get convicted of any crime with their logic? I'm sure Scott Peterson is wondering why he couldn't have this 'DREAM TEAM'....

Speaking of Dream Team, I'm not too impressed. Dr. Henry Lee, NOT Impressive. He makes no sense to me when he speaks. Rarely does he answer questions. And where is KOBE? I haven't seen him on in awhile. Maybe Baez told him to stop going on the show, meanwhile Baez gets to make the rounds on all the shows. Maybe Baez went to one of those ONLINE law schools. Could this be why he looks like a MAROOON?? I'm not bashing online schools but if you are going to be a court room lawyer, you need to have courtroom experience. His smiling and chuckling (whining to the judge) during the hearing yesterday made me dislike him even more. And Strickland, the judge, I didn't care for him. He was LAX in the beginning? HELLO, this is a murder trial. I do not believe the Baez home computer is safe from hackers. TJ MAXX had a very large case where someone hacked into their CC database and ripped off customers big time. So, it happens. Baez can't even get the right documents filed or do any Discovery and we are supposed to believe he can safeguard these photos?

And lastly, let's not forget that there was a SEX CRIME unit that went to the Anthony house in August. I'm not sure if this is standard practice. And there were two men from out of state who had mentioned some sort of sexual photos. I don't believe anyone has followed up on this. It would be interesting to know what happened.

Ok, I am all vented out, thanks for listening. Night Night, Night Owls. 

PS....STOP putting money in her ACCOUNT. I can't believe we live in a world where cold blooded murderers get such posh treatment. How can you look at Caylee's sweet face and then give this monster 20 bucks??

[Desdemona]

the thing that bothers me (and believe me there are ALOT of them)... is just WHAT DID casey spend all of her free time DOING? IF SHE WASNT WORKING ... where WAS she? what DID she do? will the computers tell us that? did she just drive around? did ANYONE ever SEE her anywhere (besides the guy who THOUGHT he saw her joggiing) and the TARGET stores and such.. WHERE WAS SHE?

didnt ANYONE ever see her? now that it is so high profile, didnt ANYONE come forward to say..oh yeah..i saw her  with or without the baby HERE, or THERE, or parked  or AT the park..or ANYWHERE?

did she always go back after friends or family went to work and sneak back to hang out?

where WAS she.. what was she DOING???

I've wondered and asked months ago if anyone thought she was maybe hanging out at Lee's house . . . . surely, he knew the truth about her.

Me, too.  There are so many indications (as noted here and elsewhere) that Lee's house could have been a hiding place from her parents, or her getaway retreat at times.  Maybe he knew, and maybe he didn't.

Didn't Lee's job take him out of town an awful lot?  What about his roommate, Brian?  Did he maybe work long hours?  Perhaps Lee's house was often empty, and she could have been there without either of them being aware?

[dottie]

the thing that bothers me (and believe me there are ALOT of them)... is just WHAT DID casey spend all of her free time DOING? IF SHE WASNT WORKING ... where WAS she? what DID she do? will the computers tell us that? did she just drive around? did ANYONE ever SEE her anywhere (besides the guy who THOUGHT he saw her joggiing) and the TARGET stores and such.. WHERE WAS SHE?

didnt ANYONE ever see her? now that it is so high profile, didnt ANYONE come forward to say..oh yeah..i saw her  with or without the baby HERE, or THERE, or parked  or AT the park..or ANYWHERE?

did she always go back after friends or family went to work and sneak back to hang out?

where WAS she.. what was she DOING???

I am willing to bet she did a lot of this. At her house and at Lee's, when he was at work. Where else she spent time, is anyone's guess.

i recall george saying that casey told lee ALOT OF THINGS they didnt know..
i wonder IF lee allowed her to be at his house.. if he KNEW she didnt have a JOB, and she didnt NEED a nanny or sitter..(yanno that NANNY CRAP really ticks me off.. i always think of a NANNY as a LIVE IN sitter.. not someone who you drop your child off with at the STORE or at a STEP or at the PARK as casey said she did...)

Heykim you are right and a nanny is also associated with celebrities like Suri Cruz, the Jolie-Pitts kids, Travoltas etc.....She makes me sick! Who does she think she is?

Well, I guess she is famous infamous now!

[Sea Searcher]

okey doke yall... i am headin out..

see yall later... and g'nite to all of ya that are leaving as well...

Good Night heykim... I'm not far behind you 

[Golden Oldie]

Now I know whose fault it is that I'm always behind.  It's YOU MONKEYS.  If you weren't all so interesting and entertaining, I could just skip over pages and catch-up in a heartbeat.     

Right now, I'm 24 pages, translated into six plus hours, behind.  By the time I get caught-up and get some sleep, it will be tomorrow morning.  I got more rest when I was working full-time, but that was not interesting and fun. 

YOU MONKEYS ARE JUST TOO GREAT!!