Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #88

[Ono]

Imo, it really makes sense that Casey was certainly familiar with the names Zanaida and Gonzalez/s and just through it all together - later adding Fernandez in the middle for good measure, when things began to close in a bit.

Oops! I meant "THREW...it all together" !   

[kitkat53]

I found this while searching for more information about those pictures.

During one interview, George Anthony says another investigator told him that as many as 1,200 photos of Casey Anthony "are out there -- she's done some bad things.

That is an interesting way of putting things. Here is a link to the article.
http://www.wesh.com/news/18032901/detail.html

[BooMonkey]

4701 HOPESPRING DRIVE  (Gonzales)

FROM THE TAX ASSESSORS WEBSITE:



FROM THE WHITE PAGES:



4709 HOPESPRING DRIVE  (Zenaida)

FROM THE TAX ASSESSORS WEBSITE:



FROM THE WHITE PAGES:

Thanks Klaas, I sent this to John Morgan so he has his ducks in a row in case he decides to use MONKEY WORK!!

[Today]

Yes, and a few pages back someone posted the connection of him to other players as well.

I think that person might have been thinking about Ziff Davis, even though he does a magazine.  I can find nothing to connect Skip Davis to Inside Edition. 

[N2WISHN]

This is a long post, but I wanted to cite the sources that I used to draw my conclusion. These are my thoughts only. I have no ‘inside’ information. I may be wrong.  I would be very happy to be wrong.

OzInterest posted these things about her husband…

December 22, 2008, 06:14:56 AM
“My Hubby is in LE here and is in the MIG group, which covers only major crime. He has had some "official" contact with LE involved in this case and let me tell you that there will be some explosions "if" it goes to trial.”

And

December 22, 2008, 07:01:03 AM
“He is, very good at his job and is definately one of the good cops.
This is not the first time he has had input into a case in the US, being in the group his talents are sought after world wide. Some of the things he has seen and dealt with are sickening. I can't really tell you why he is involved but sufficed to say that he hasn't told me everything he knows either.”

I wondered why Australian LE would be involved in a Florida murder case. It’s a ghastly case to be sure, but ‘american slut murders her baby’ wouldn’t normally merit international LE involvement. And then I found this…       

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is involved in international activities in the following categories: Terrorism, Natural Disasters, Human Trafficking, and Child Protection Operations.   

http://www.afp.gov.au/international/child_protection_operations.html
“Child Protection Operations -- The AFP has a significant role to play in ensuring children and young people are safe, no matter what environment they are in. In fulfilling this role, the AFP has forged strong partnerships with all Australian law enforcement agencies as well as many international agencies. The AFP, through its High Tech Crime Operations unit, is responsible for the investigation of crimes associated with Online Child Sex Exploitation and Child Sex Tourism. The AFP is also a member of the Virtual Global Taskforce, an alliance made up of law enforcement agencies around the world who are working together to fight online child abuse.”

Furthermore, I noticed the following international child porn joint-investigations all made a large number of arrests in November and December of 2008.

Australia “Operation Resistance”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/retired-qc-among-19-men-in-child-porn-arrests-20081211-6wsb.html

Canada & Europe “Operation Koala”
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/01/16/koala-follo.html

United States “Operation Joint Hammer”
http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0812/081212washington.htm

With Desdemona’s help, I found this transcript.  It mentions the 1,200 pictures that Sergeant John Allen refers to when interviewing George on July 24th 2008.  This is the same interview that made George so ill he left the room and vomited. These pictures have not been released to the media/public. 
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

And then I saw this post from luckycharmsprincess

January 09, 2009, 11:06:26 PM
“And lastly, let's not forget that there was a SEX CRIME unit that went to the Anthony house in August. I'm not sure if this is standard practice. And there were two men from out of state who had mentioned some sort of sexual photos. I don't believe anyone has followed up on this.”

I have not been able to find another source that reports the presence of a Sex Crime unit at the Anthony’s home. But I’m sure that’s a reflection of my ability to research and not a problem with luckycharmsprincess' memory.

So, taking all that information into consideration, I believe that while investigating Caylee’s murder, LE found a connection to child pornography.  And is investigating this as a separate case from the murder.     

Anybody else have any thoughts about this? I would be happy to be wrong.

Brachiate

Anything is possible with this case. If you haven't listened to Wendy Murphy when she was on the Dana show on Dec. 21, you might find it very enlightening as she discussed child porn as a real possiblity. I certainly wouldn't rule it out myself. Great investigating on your part!!

[Sam]

Klaas can you work your magic on this photo map. 4701 is on the right hand side of the map as well as 4709. They are side by side. The first one where the Gozalas lived is a much larger lot .It is defined by those black lines you can see behind it closer to where Caylee's body was found. So if you were driving down Suburban and turned on Hopespring the even numbers would be on your right and odd numbers on left. Make sense?

Sam

[Bud's Girl]

Reading Kiomarie's whole interview again at this point was really interesting to me.  I had forgotten a lot of what she said.   

She talked about how different Casey was after Caylee was born.  In particular she said that they would talk and Casey would ask her questions about something for instance on a Monday and Kio would say let me get back to you.  Then when Kio would get back to her with the answers a couple of days later, Casey would deny that they had even talked on Monday.   Apparently that happened several times, which is very weird.   She told the officer it drove her insane because she knew Casey really well and she was never like that before.

Also Kio stated that years ago when they both worked at Universal, she told Casey she needed to get help - medical attention -   but the officer taking her statement didn't press her as to why she thought that, and ended the interview there.

[Nut44x4]

This is why I do not post at other forums...I would be banned for telling off people!

Hey.....that happened to me at Court TV a very longgg time ago 

[Russ]

Klaas can you work your magic on this photo map. 4701 is on the right hand side of the map as well as 4709. They are side by side. The first one where the Gozalas lived is a much larger lot .It is defined by those black lines you can see behind it closer to where Caylee's body was found. So if you were driving down Suburban and turned on Hopespring the even numbers would be on your right and odd numbers on left. Make sense?

Sam

That is correct.  Kind of confusing on this map.  I would love for the parcel listing to have the names listed too.

[no rose colored glasses]

Ok Monkeys my siblings have just come over for our Saturday BBQ and pool fun.  So now I am off to put on my suit and hit the back yard!  Its fun as they like to have diving board competitions with themselves...and of course they all think they are Michael Phelps...even the dog!

So laterz!!

Have fun.

[no rose colored glasses]

Early this morning I did more cross referencing to other lookup services and posted the information here.  Superpages does not list the Zanaida and lists the Gonzalez person as Fred and a female too.  Zabasearch did not list the Zanaida at that address.  Phonebook.com did however.  It indicates it is either a person that rented there at some time, or has little ss activity and court activity.  The Anthony family would have good cause, more importantly Casey, to know the people in the neighborhood that have lived there or live there now.

Score another one for Russ.

Come on Topix....damn we need a baseball league for our forums.  We would be smackin ass and takin names!

Is this possible ?:
Remember how Casey went out of her way to exclaim profusely to Cin Cin [ perhaps upon que ??? ] that she didn't know the names of who lived in their neighborhood ??  Was this a coverup mode for the benefit of the camera ? 

In my opinion, it seemed at the time, to be a very deliberate denial...of not knowing who they ALL were...not just the Kio Marie girl.  She was just thrown in there as a pretense, imo.   

That did seem very strange, and wasn't there talk from Cindy that one of the people had said something about Cindy had been in a mental hospital?

[islandmonkey]

This is a long post, but I wanted to cite the sources that I used to draw my conclusion. These are my thoughts only. I have no ‘inside’ information. I may be wrong.  I would be very happy to be wrong.

OzInterest posted these things about her husband…

December 22, 2008, 06:14:56 AM
“My Hubby is in LE here and is in the MIG group, which covers only major crime. He has had some "official" contact with LE involved in this case and let me tell you that there will be some explosions "if" it goes to trial.”

And

December 22, 2008, 07:01:03 AM
“He is, very good at his job and is definately one of the good cops.
This is not the first time he has had input into a case in the US, being in the group his talents are sought after world wide. Some of the things he has seen and dealt with are sickening. I can't really tell you why he is involved but sufficed to say that he hasn't told me everything he knows either.”

I wondered why Australian LE would be involved in a Florida murder case. It’s a ghastly case to be sure, but ‘american slut murders her baby’ wouldn’t normally merit international LE involvement. And then I found this…       

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is involved in international activities in the following categories: Terrorism, Natural Disasters, Human Trafficking, and Child Protection Operations.   

http://www.afp.gov.au/international/child_protection_operations.html
“Child Protection Operations -- The AFP has a significant role to play in ensuring children and young people are safe, no matter what environment they are in. In fulfilling this role, the AFP has forged strong partnerships with all Australian law enforcement agencies as well as many international agencies. The AFP, through its High Tech Crime Operations unit, is responsible for the investigation of crimes associated with Online Child Sex Exploitation and Child Sex Tourism. The AFP is also a member of the Virtual Global Taskforce, an alliance made up of law enforcement agencies around the world who are working together to fight online child abuse.”

Furthermore, I noticed the following international child porn joint-investigations all made a large number of arrests in November and December of 2008.

Australia “Operation Resistance”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/retired-qc-among-19-men-in-child-porn-arrests-20081211-6wsb.html

Canada & Europe “Operation Koala”
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/01/16/koala-follo.html

United States “Operation Joint Hammer”
http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0812/081212washington.htm

With Desdemona’s help, I found this transcript.  It mentions the 1,200 pictures that Sergeant John Allen refers to when interviewing George on July 24th 2008.  This is the same interview that made George so ill he left the room and vomited. These pictures have not been released to the media/public. 
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

And then I saw this post from luckycharmsprincess

January 09, 2009, 11:06:26 PM
“And lastly, let's not forget that there was a SEX CRIME unit that went to the Anthony house in August. I'm not sure if this is standard practice. And there were two men from out of state who had mentioned some sort of sexual photos. I don't believe anyone has followed up on this.”

I have not been able to find another source that reports the presence of a Sex Crime unit at the Anthony’s home. But I’m sure that’s a reflection of my ability to research and not a problem with luckycharmsprincess' memory.

So, taking all that information into consideration, I believe that while investigating Caylee’s murder, LE found a connection to child pornography.  And is investigating this as a separate case from the murder.     

Anybody else have any thoughts about this? I would be happy to be wrong.

Brachiate

Anything is possible with this case. If you haven't listened to Wendy Murphy when she was on the Dana show on Dec. 21, you might find it very enlightening as she discussed child porn as a real possiblity. I certainly wouldn't rule it out myself. Great investigating on your part!!

Is it possible that this is the MIG group involved:

http://tango01.cit.nih.gov/sig/home.taf?_function=main&SIGInfo_SIGID=60

Indexed in the ISI Web of Knowledge  The Mitochondria Interest Group (MIG) is an Inter-Institute Interest Group at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with members worldwide! MIG is concerned with all aspects of the mitochondrion and diseases in which the mitochondrion is involved.

[joesamas mama]

Okay Monkeys.

I gotta go get ready to go to the rink  It's cold and windy and I wanna stay here where it is warm. See ya in a bit! JSM

Hey JSM - you can come skate in Indiana today ... and you don't even need a rink! 

Aww that was sweet Newfie.

[no rose colored glasses]

In Kio's first interview with LE, she mentions that there is a Zenaida in her and Casey's neighborhood; that Zenaida subsequently got married and moved away. This is explained somewhere in the Casey documents from LE. I will find it. So, there was a Zenaida living there. I believe her full name WAS actually Zenaida Gonzalez before she got married. I just need to find this. Basically, I think Casey left Caylee in the former backyard of the ZG she knew from her neighborhood, who no longer lives there. I was going to post this last night, but we had guests and I did not have time.

Yes it was something like that, I'm glad you are going to find it. Did you ever find the post on WS about that probe, that someone's husband who is in LE thought was in that evidence bag coming out of the Anthony's house?

Hi, everyone! I just want to APOLOGIZE for dropping bombs and then leaving. I keep having to leave my laptop. My baby daughter is sick (her first cold!), plus we had those guests last night. I __AM___ going to find both things -- the link that mentions the probe and the stuff about the 2nd Zenaida. I promise you I am not making things up (I am not like CASEY!!!!).

Baby is napping now, so I am going to start my mad search right now. I have spent many late nights reading documents but forgetting to bookmark them. So, it's like starting from scratch.

Take your time, hope your baby feels better soon.

[no rose colored glasses]

I found this while searching for more information about those pictures.

During one interview, George Anthony says another investigator told him that as many as 1,200 photos of Casey Anthony "are out there -- she's done some bad things.

That is an interesting way of putting things. Here is a link to the article.
http://www.wesh.com/news/18032901/detail.html

Very interesting way of wording that, I still can't believe those pictures have not surfaced.

[Brachiate]

I found this while searching for more information about those pictures.

During one interview, George Anthony says another investigator told him that as many as 1,200 photos of Casey Anthony "are out there -- she's done some bad things.

That is an interesting way of putting things. Here is a link to the article.
http://www.wesh.com/news/18032901/detail.html

Good find!
From the same article:

"George Anthony admits hiding from his wife and son the fact that sheriff’s detectives had found over 1,000 provocative photos of Casey retrieved from the family's computers, cameras and online."

[no rose colored glasses]

Yes, and a few pages back someone posted the connection of him to other players as well.

I think that person might have been thinking about Ziff Davis, even though he does a magazine.  I can find nothing to connect Skip Davis to Inside Edition. 

Thanks, I've never heard of Ziff Davis before, and never heard of Skip either until this case.

[islandmonkey]

This is a long post, but I wanted to cite the sources that I used to draw my conclusion. These are my thoughts only. I have no ‘inside’ information. I may be wrong.  I would be very happy to be wrong.

OzInterest posted these things about her husband…

December 22, 2008, 06:14:56 AM
“My Hubby is in LE here and is in the MIG group, which covers only major crime. He has had some "official" contact with LE involved in this case and let me tell you that there will be some explosions "if" it goes to trial.”

And

December 22, 2008, 07:01:03 AM
“He is, very good at his job and is definately one of the good cops.
This is not the first time he has had input into a case in the US, being in the group his talents are sought after world wide. Some of the things he has seen and dealt with are sickening. I can't really tell you why he is involved but sufficed to say that he hasn't told me everything he knows either.”

I wondered why Australian LE would be involved in a Florida murder case. It’s a ghastly case to be sure, but ‘american slut murders her baby’ wouldn’t normally merit international LE involvement. And then I found this…       

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is involved in international activities in the following categories: Terrorism, Natural Disasters, Human Trafficking, and Child Protection Operations.   

http://www.afp.gov.au/international/child_protection_operations.html
“Child Protection Operations -- The AFP has a significant role to play in ensuring children and young people are safe, no matter what environment they are in. In fulfilling this role, the AFP has forged strong partnerships with all Australian law enforcement agencies as well as many international agencies. The AFP, through its High Tech Crime Operations unit, is responsible for the investigation of crimes associated with Online Child Sex Exploitation and Child Sex Tourism. The AFP is also a member of the Virtual Global Taskforce, an alliance made up of law enforcement agencies around the world who are working together to fight online child abuse.”

Furthermore, I noticed the following international child porn joint-investigations all made a large number of arrests in November and December of 2008.

Australia “Operation Resistance”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/retired-qc-among-19-men-in-child-porn-arrests-20081211-6wsb.html

Canada & Europe “Operation Koala”
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/01/16/koala-follo.html

United States “Operation Joint Hammer”
http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0812/081212washington.htm

With Desdemona’s help, I found this transcript.  It mentions the 1,200 pictures that Sergeant John Allen refers to when interviewing George on July 24th 2008.  This is the same interview that made George so ill he left the room and vomited. These pictures have not been released to the media/public. 
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

And then I saw this post from luckycharmsprincess

January 09, 2009, 11:06:26 PM
“And lastly, let's not forget that there was a SEX CRIME unit that went to the Anthony house in August. I'm not sure if this is standard practice. And there were two men from out of state who had mentioned some sort of sexual photos. I don't believe anyone has followed up on this.”

I have not been able to find another source that reports the presence of a Sex Crime unit at the Anthony’s home. But I’m sure that’s a reflection of my ability to research and not a problem with luckycharmsprincess' memory.

So, taking all that information into consideration, I believe that while investigating Caylee’s murder, LE found a connection to child pornography.  And is investigating this as a separate case from the murder.     

Anybody else have any thoughts about this? I would be happy to be wrong.

Brachiate

Anything is possible with this case. If you haven't listened to Wendy Murphy when she was on the Dana show on Dec. 21, you might find it very enlightening as she discussed child porn as a real possiblity. I certainly wouldn't rule it out myself. Great investigating on your part!!

Is it possible that this is the MIG group involved:

http://tango01.cit.nih.gov/sig/home.taf?_function=main&SIGInfo_SIGID=60

Indexed in the ISI Web of Knowledge  The Mitochondria Interest Group (MIG) is an Inter-Institute Interest Group at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with members worldwide! MIG is concerned with all aspects of the mitochondrion and diseases in which the mitochondrion is involved.

  D@mn, have to edit my OWN post..........I meant to c/p this link:

http://www.australianpolicecars.com/abbreviations.htm

The MIG group in Australia is the Major Incident Group.........any ideas???

[trimmonthelake]

I found this while searching for more information about those pictures.

During one interview, George Anthony says another investigator told him that as many as 1,200 photos of Casey Anthony "are out there -- she's done some bad things.

That is an interesting way of putting things. Here is a link to the article.
http://www.wesh.com/news/18032901/detail.html

Very interesting way of wording that, I still can't believe those pictures have not surfaced.

I'm suprised they haven't surfaced either.Interesting isn't it? 

[mgoblue]

This is a long post, but I wanted to cite the sources that I used to draw my conclusion. These are my thoughts only. I have no ‘inside’ information. I may be wrong.  I would be very happy to be wrong.

OzInterest posted these things about her husband…

December 22, 2008, 06:14:56 AM
“My Hubby is in LE here and is in the MIG group, which covers only major crime. He has had some "official" contact with LE involved in this case and let me tell you that there will be some explosions "if" it goes to trial.”

And

December 22, 2008, 07:01:03 AM
“He is, very good at his job and is definately one of the good cops.
This is not the first time he has had input into a case in the US, being in the group his talents are sought after world wide. Some of the things he has seen and dealt with are sickening. I can't really tell you why he is involved but sufficed to say that he hasn't told me everything he knows either.”

I wondered why Australian LE would be involved in a Florida murder case. It’s a ghastly case to be sure, but ‘american slut murders her baby’ wouldn’t normally merit international LE involvement. And then I found this…       

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is involved in international activities in the following categories: Terrorism, Natural Disasters, Human Trafficking, and Child Protection Operations.   

http://www.afp.gov.au/international/child_protection_operations.html
“Child Protection Operations -- The AFP has a significant role to play in ensuring children and young people are safe, no matter what environment they are in. In fulfilling this role, the AFP has forged strong partnerships with all Australian law enforcement agencies as well as many international agencies. The AFP, through its High Tech Crime Operations unit, is responsible for the investigation of crimes associated with Online Child Sex Exploitation and Child Sex Tourism. The AFP is also a member of the Virtual Global Taskforce, an alliance made up of law enforcement agencies around the world who are working together to fight online child abuse.”

Furthermore, I noticed the following international child porn joint-investigations all made a large number of arrests in November and December of 2008.

Australia “Operation Resistance”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/retired-qc-among-19-men-in-child-porn-arrests-20081211-6wsb.html

Canada & Europe “Operation Koala”
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/01/16/koala-follo.html

United States “Operation Joint Hammer”
http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0812/081212washington.htm

With Desdemona’s help, I found this transcript.  It mentions the 1,200 pictures that Sergeant John Allen refers to when interviewing George on July 24th 2008.  This is the same interview that made George so ill he left the room and vomited. These pictures have not been released to the media/public. 
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

And then I saw this post from luckycharmsprincess

January 09, 2009, 11:06:26 PM
“And lastly, let's not forget that there was a SEX CRIME unit that went to the Anthony house in August. I'm not sure if this is standard practice. And there were two men from out of state who had mentioned some sort of sexual photos. I don't believe anyone has followed up on this.”

I have not been able to find another source that reports the presence of a Sex Crime unit at the Anthony’s home. But I’m sure that’s a reflection of my ability to research and not a problem with luckycharmsprincess' memory.

So, taking all that information into consideration, I believe that while investigating Caylee’s murder, LE found a connection to child pornography.  And is investigating this as a separate case from the murder.     

Anybody else have any thoughts about this? I would be happy to be wrong.

Brachiate

Anything is possible with this case. If you haven't listened to Wendy Murphy when she was on the Dana show on Dec. 21, you might find it very enlightening as she discussed child porn as a real possiblity. I certainly wouldn't rule it out myself. Great investigating on your part!!

Is it possible that this is the MIG group involved:

http://tango01.cit.nih.gov/sig/home.taf?_function=main&SIGInfo_SIGID=60

Indexed in the ISI Web of Knowledge  The Mitochondria Interest Group (MIG) is an Inter-Institute Interest Group at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with members worldwide! MIG is concerned with all aspects of the mitochondrion and diseases in which the mitochondrion is involved.

Good Morning Monkeys. I googled and found this info below. "Major Incident Group" makes some sense...but I wonder how they are tied in?

Organisation
 
Western Australia Police attending a minor traffic accidentThe Police Headquarters is located in East Perth overlooking the Causeway, near the WACA Ground. The 1960s curved building also houses the East Perth Lockup and is entered on the State Heritage Register. Recruits are trained at the Western Australian Police Academy at Joondalup. Previously the Academy was located at Maylands, in premises still used by various units including the mounted and K-9 (police dog) sections. The Perth Police Station is located at Curtin House, Beaufort Street.

All police recruits begin their service as uniformed constables and are required to serve time in a country district.

The command structure has the state divided into three regions and sub-divided into fourteen districts. The highest-ranking police officer in the Western Australia Police holds the title of Commissioner of Police. The current Commissioner is Karl O'Callaghan, appointed in June 2004, with two deputy commissioners - Murray Lampard (Operations), and Chris Dawson (Standards and Reform). Politically, the service comes within the portfolio of the Minister for Police.

A number of specialist units have been established, including the Tactical Response Group (TRG), Crime Investigation and Intelligence Services, Major Incident Group, Water Police Branch, Community Safety Branch, Traffic Enforcement Group, Regional Operations Group and Air Support Unit.