Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #88

[Today]

This is a long post, but I wanted to cite the sources that I used to draw my conclusion. These are my thoughts only. I have no ‘inside’ information. I may be wrong.  I would be very happy to be wrong.

OzInterest posted these things about her husband…

December 22, 2008, 06:14:56 AM
“My Hubby is in LE here and is in the MIG group, which covers only major crime. He has had some "official" contact with LE involved in this case and let me tell you that there will be some explosions "if" it goes to trial.”

And

December 22, 2008, 07:01:03 AM
“He is, very good at his job and is definately one of the good cops.
This is not the first time he has had input into a case in the US, being in the group his talents are sought after world wide. Some of the things he has seen and dealt with are sickening. I can't really tell you why he is involved but sufficed to say that he hasn't told me everything he knows either.”

I wondered why Australian LE would be involved in a Florida murder case. It’s a ghastly case to be sure, but ‘american slut murders her baby’ wouldn’t normally merit international LE involvement. And then I found this…       

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is involved in international activities in the following categories: Terrorism, Natural Disasters, Human Trafficking, and Child Protection Operations.   

http://www.afp.gov.au/international/child_protection_operations.html
“Child Protection Operations -- The AFP has a significant role to play in ensuring children and young people are safe, no matter what environment they are in. In fulfilling this role, the AFP has forged strong partnerships with all Australian law enforcement agencies as well as many international agencies. The AFP, through its High Tech Crime Operations unit, is responsible for the investigation of crimes associated with Online Child Sex Exploitation and Child Sex Tourism. The AFP is also a member of the Virtual Global Taskforce, an alliance made up of law enforcement agencies around the world who are working together to fight online child abuse.”

Furthermore, I noticed the following international child porn joint-investigations all made a large number of arrests in November and December of 2008.

Australia “Operation Resistance”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/retired-qc-among-19-men-in-child-porn-arrests-20081211-6wsb.html

Canada & Europe “Operation Koala”
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/01/16/koala-follo.html

United States “Operation Joint Hammer”
http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0812/081212washington.htm

With Desdemona’s help, I found this transcript.  It mentions the 1,200 pictures that Sergeant John Allen refers to when interviewing George on July 24th 2008.  This is the same interview that made George so ill he left the room and vomited. These pictures have not been released to the media/public. 
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

And then I saw this post from luckycharmsprincess

January 09, 2009, 11:06:26 PM
“And lastly, let's not forget that there was a SEX CRIME unit that went to the Anthony house in August. I'm not sure if this is standard practice. And there were two men from out of state who had mentioned some sort of sexual photos. I don't believe anyone has followed up on this.”

I have not been able to find another source that reports the presence of a Sex Crime unit at the Anthony’s home. But I’m sure that’s a reflection of my ability to research and not a problem with luckycharmsprincess' memory.

So, taking all that information into consideration, I believe that while investigating Caylee’s murder, LE found a connection to child pornography.  And is investigating this as a separate case from the murder.     

Anybody else have any thoughts about this? I would be happy to be wrong.

Brachiate

Anything is possible with this case. If you haven't listened to Wendy Murphy when she was on the Dana show on Dec. 21, you might find it very enlightening as she discussed child porn as a real possiblity. I certainly wouldn't rule it out myself. Great investigating on your part!!

Is it possible that this is the MIG group involved:

http://tango01.cit.nih.gov/sig/home.taf?_function=main&SIGInfo_SIGID=60

Indexed in the ISI Web of Knowledge  The Mitochondria Interest Group (MIG) is an Inter-Institute Interest Group at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with members worldwide! MIG is concerned with all aspects of the mitochondrion and diseases in which the mitochondrion is involved.

  D@mn, have to edit my OWN post..........I meant to c/p this link:

http://www.australianpolicecars.com/abbreviations.htm

The MIG group in Australia is the Major Incident Group.........any ideas???

MIG is a pretty common acronym for -  Military Intelligence Group 

[Russ]

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"As a result of that confrontation, I was arrested based on false allegations that I had kidnapped my former girlfriend," Kronk said. "I chose to disclose this arrest and the expungement of the records because I had nothing to hide, and (I) have a personal policy of openness and honesty about events in my life."

Relax.  It is public knowledge and being reported.  I didn't report it.  Kronk did.  It is not good news.  Geraldo was wrong to say arrested on rape, but I think kidnapping is even worse.  If you don't think this is the news of the next week for the defense, I don't know what to tell you.  I am just letting you know.

hmmmmm well if you ask ME,... and clearly no one did... I THINK that when you RAPE someone, you ARE holding them against their will.... which is LIKE kidnapping... but with an added BONUS ...*puke*.....

I agree, but the arrest is the key: Kidnapping.  It is what the defense said happened to Caylee.

[no rose colored glasses]

Klaas or someone I have a question. Is Yuri with the Sex crimes division?

Would they be in the same division that investigates child abuse and that could be the reason the sex crimes unit is investigating. Because they are the same division?

TIA JSM

Anyone know this answer? TIA

I don't, but I don't think Yuri is with the sex crimes division. I love Joe's new picture.

[Russ]

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"As a result of that confrontation, I was arrested based on false allegations that I had kidnapped my former girlfriend," Kronk said. "I chose to disclose this arrest and the expungement of the records because I had nothing to hide, and (I) have a personal policy of openness and honesty about events in my life."

Relax.  It is public knowledge and being reported.  I didn't report it.  Kronk did.  It is not good news.  Geraldo was wrong to say arrested on rape, but I think kidnapping is even worse.  If you don't think this is the news of the next week for the defense, I don't know what to tell you.  I am just letting you know.

Whoa telling me to relax, this is outrageous - this man was EXONERATED of this charge due to a domestic dispute - that means that past should be moot & not even having to be part of this case, its a dang shame he knew he had to disclose it because of people like Geraldo that want to spin dirty laundry instead focusing on this babygirl being murdered by her mother

No wonder why so many people dont come forward as witnesses & Tim Miller has to now fight so hard to protect private citizens that chose to volunteer in a search so that their life isnt put to this scruntity, pre judgement & invasion of privacy -its a sad day for people that would be willing to help find justice for a precious babygirl that was murdered & other cases is what it is

I agree with everything you said. It doesn't seem right, but it was bound to come out and it is all over the airwaves and reporting now.  Kronk had no choice but to come forward I guess, based on his attorney's advice.  This sucks big time imo.  I only meant relax toward me because I am just giving the facts and lowdown on what I see.  Kronk would have to sue himself.

[islandmonkey]

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I still dont see what this has to do with him finding Caylees body.  I know there's something going on in the background on how he knew to look where he did, but whatever went on in his past , at least to me, has nothing to do with finding a missing childs body.....boy, You would have to be sqeeky clean not ot be talking about in this case, Im glad I wasnt involved with any of them, I would hate to see them look back in my past, because they would be bored as HEll, but I bet they would find the Trespassing charge I recieved when I was 22 and was walking my dog on someone elses land and got busted.......LOL.....

ITA~I don't care is a crackhead with 3 arms from Pluto found Caylee-just that she was found. That is what is important Whorealdo, now the Bozo can't go on and on about Caylee sitings, and FTLOG Bozo, release her and let her have the proper burial she deserves

[JodyO]

Anyone else watching Fox News? Whorealdo was just on there saying that the MR, Kronk, was going to be a tainted witness causing all sorts of trouble for the prosecution, claiming that he had been arrested for RAPE in NC previously. When the anchor asked what happened with the rape case, Whorealdo said the charges were later dropped as it was a domestic dispute of some sort, but that wouldn't stop the defense from using it in any trial. A couple of minutes later, the anchor said he had a correction to Whorealdo's previous report, said the case was not rape, but kidnapping.

  he's such a sack of chit and too close to Bozo to be responsible reporting on this case...also, IF Kronk was involved in bounty hunting couldn't anyone accuse him of kidnapping?? You know he detained them and they could scream he kidnapped me? any ideas

I NEVER listen to Whorealdo because nobody should believe a word he ever says. My hubby listens to Fox News and happened to have it on when Whorealdo appeared on the screen. Normally, if hubby is not clutching the clicker, I jump up and grab the thing and change the channel at the mention of Whorelaldo's name or the sight of his face. GAG! He is the most disreputable "journalist" in the business IMO. At least he's at the very tip top of the list of my vast list of disreputable "jounalists." And yes, I believe that Whorealdo is "working" for Baez or whoever is paying Baez. I know this won't be a popular idea around here, but I suspect that Padilla also "works" for Baez, or is a conduit for info from Baez.

WOW~I also thought Padilla was linked to Baez somehow.......but, I shall keep those feelings to myself for now.......don't want to cage to start rocking again over LP.

It's just my suspicion.

[joesamas mama]

Klaas or someone I have a question. Is Yuri with the Sex crimes division?

Would they be in the same division that investigates child abuse and that could be the reason the sex crimes unit is investigating. Because they are the same division?

TIA JSM

Anyone know this answer? TIA

I don't, but I don't think Yuri is with the sex crimes division. I love Joe's new picture.

Thanks Rose for answering. I thought it said on his email it was Sex Crimes, but I went back and looked and it said Child Abuse Division or something like that. So I was wondering if maybe they were in the same Division. I need to send Joes pic to Brandi or CBB to get it dolled up for Valentine's Day.

[Cappuccino]

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"As a result of that confrontation, I was arrested based on false allegations that I had kidnapped my former girlfriend," Kronk said. "I chose to disclose this arrest and the expungement of the records because I had nothing to hide, and (I) have a personal policy of openness and honesty about events in my life."

Relax.  It is public knowledge and being reported.  I didn't report it.  Kronk did.  It is not good news.  Geraldo was wrong to say arrested on rape, but I think kidnapping is even worse.  If you don't think this is the news of the next week for the defense, I don't know what to tell you.  I am just letting you know.

Whoa telling me to relax, this is outrageous - this man was EXONERATED of this charge due to a domestic dispute - that means that past should be moot & not even having to be part of this case, its a dang shame he knew he had to disclose it because of people like Geraldo that want to spin dirty laundry instead focusing on this babygirl being murdered by her mother

No wonder why so many people dont come forward as witnesses & Tim Miller has to now fight so hard to protect private citizens that chose to volunteer in a search so that their life isnt put to this scruntity, pre judgement & invasion of privacy -its a sad day for people that would be willing to help find justice for a precious babygirl that was murdered & other cases is what it is

I agree with everything you said. It doesn't seem right, but it was bound to come out and it is all over the airwaves and reporting now.  Kronk had no choice but to come forward I guess, based on his attorney's advice.  This sucks big time imo.  I only meant relax toward me because I am just giving the facts and lowdown on what I see.  Kronk would have to sue himself.

OK thanks for clarifying & I was careful not to say YOU specifically....to be clear on my end Im outraged by the situation not by anything anyone said here

Monkey hugs

[higherhopes]

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I still dont see what this has to do with him finding Caylees body.  I know there's something going on in the background on how he knew to look where he did, but whatever went on in his past , at least to me, has nothing to do with finding a missing childs body.....boy, You would have to be sqeeky clean not ot be talking about in this case, Im glad I wasnt involved with any of them, I would hate to see them look back in my past, because they would be bored as HEll, but I bet they would find the Trespassing charge I recieved when I was 22 and was walking my dog on someone elses land and got busted.......LOL.....

I agree it doesn't, but if I were a defense attorney with a situation where a meter reader came to a site many times and reported many times and later it is found out he was arrested on "KIDNAPPING" charges whereby your defense is based on a KIDNAPPING,,,

well

I think it would be manna from heaven.

Well I think that this piece of news, that has been dug up on this guy(only because someone is really reaching, when they should be Thankful that Caylee has been found) is not gonna help the defence in any way, because that case was thrown out and it was  a grown woman not a child in that case, and also with the evidence to show that Casey and only Casey is responsible for this childs death is going down and no one else........Defense can try whatever they want to  but I say this will be a poor response to throw at Kronk when bottom line....................he found Caylee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bud's Girl]

Hey, those Topix ppl are pretty good. I have read there and also Fox Orlando.
One thing that I read there that fizzled with no further info was about the chloroform.
Someone popped in and spoke as if they knew what they were talking bout . They said something to the effect that there was chloroform in a bottle stolen from a house of a " friend " or someone that Casey knew. The person had it so they could do things ( I guess toe nail clipping / teeth brushing  ) to their dogs. Oh it will all come out. We still haven't seen Annie's official statement have we ?     

i read on, i think topix? annie d. worked in a vets office & had access to chloroform. don't know if this is true but i read it yesterday.

wendi

Not saying it isn't possible and I am not a vet, but I've never heard of chloroform being used to sedate an animal - at least not since the time they stopped using it to sedate humans. There are so many tranquilizers and other sedatives for working on animals, I can't see a vet using it today. Very dangerous.

FWIW, I also thought it was a very old practice and not in use, but googled just out of curiousity and apparently vets do use it to euthanize them.   

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ggrrrrr   I hate Whoraldo.          

[Today]

OMG!! Now Geraldo is reporting that the meter reader, Roy Kronk has a "checkered past" and this is what he loosely discloses - that Kronk was accused of rape in 1991...he questions his involvement & then adds BUT THE CHARGES WERE A RESULT OF A DOMESTIC DISPUTE & WERE DROPPED


THIS IS TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO DEFAME THIS MAN'S CHARACTER! He is so in Baez's pocket I am outraged!

What I do know is that Roy Kronks wife died of cancer a year ago & that he has a previous background doing work with bail/bond BUT NO ONE BUT GERALDO has reported this & okay I admit if those charges had a very high probablity of having merit Id say yes that he is a seedy character that got away with something BUT you cant just cast that type of damning info as if he were guilty & capabe of that conduct with NO PROOF. Im not totally positive that Kronk doesnt have a connection that leads back to Lee thru Casey BUT this type of inference is wrong to just blurt out there.

I saw this on a teaser of what this "has been" is going to cover on his show. In his comments he was raising things that the defense can raise, attorney or not he is a journalist where does he think it is his job to provide the defense team of a murderer arguments & ideas of how they can get their client a lesser charge or worse yet acquittal - it isnt!! I want him called out on his "bias for Baez" nationally. Im off to write another fuming letter to Foxnews, I encourage others to do the same.


A headline under him bloviating nonsense not pertinet to the case was something to the effect that over 200 toys were found in the area where the remains were found

At least this is a possible connection to the jail.  Posted last night by Boo.

I called both Yuri and LP and let them know this information!!
LP asked me to email him the info and made me promise to call him on Monday!! I wonder what that is about??
Also he told me:
Scott Sampson, the meter readers supervisor lives 7 houses away from Anthonys.
Roy lives in St. Cloud, with Michele Carpentiere, works at the jail!!
Kronk lived in Kingsport Tenn, worked with Sandra Hensley who owns bail bond company, He knows his way around finding bail jumpers and the whole finding people business
How did KC get word to Roy? KC to Lee to Meter reader supervisor to Roy
Kronk said he was a bounty hunter on Sept 2nd to others in the area.
Very strange!!! Can't wait for Monday!!

 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4367.msg620221#msg620221

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"As a result of that confrontation, I was arrested based on false allegations that I had kidnapped my former girlfriend," Kronk said. "I chose to disclose this arrest and the expungement of the records because I had nothing to hide, and (I) have a personal policy of openness and honesty about events in my life."

Relax.  It is public knowledge and being reported.  I didn't report it.  Kronk did.  It is not good news.  Geraldo was wrong to say arrested on rape, but I think kidnapping is even worse.  If you don't think this is the news of the next week for the defense, I don't know what to tell you.  I am just letting you know.

Whoa telling me to relax, this is outrageous - this man was EXONERATED of this charge due to a domestic dispute - that means that past should be moot & not even having to be part of this case, its a dang shame he knew he had to disclose it because of people like Geraldo that want to spin dirty laundry instead focusing on this babygirl being murdered by her mother

No wonder why so many people dont come forward as witnesses & Tim Miller has to now fight so hard to protect private citizens that chose to volunteer in a search so that their life isnt put to this scruntity, pre judgement & invasion of privacy -its a sad day for people that would be willing to help find justice for a precious babygirl that was murdered & other cases is what it is

I agree with everything you said. It doesn't seem right, but it was bound to come out and it is all over the airwaves and reporting now.  Kronk had no choice but to come forward I guess, based on his attorney's advice.  This sucks big time imo.  I only meant relax toward me because I am just giving the facts and lowdown on what I see.  Kronk would have to sue himself.

OK thanks for clarifying & I was careful not to say YOU specifically....to be clear on my end Im outraged by the situation not by anything anyone said here

Monkey hugs

Monkey hugs back at ya.


This sucks for him and for the prosecution.  Sucks for public awareness because most will hear that one word.

It just had to be kidnapping.  Ugh. 

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I still dont see what this has to do with him finding Caylees body.  I know there's something going on in the background on how he knew to look where he did, but whatever went on in his past , at least to me, has nothing to do with finding a missing childs body.....boy, You would have to be sqeeky clean not ot be talking about in this case, Im glad I wasnt involved with any of them, I would hate to see them look back in my past, because they would be bored as HEll, but I bet they would find the Trespassing charge I recieved when I was 22 and was walking my dog on someone elses land and got busted.......LOL.....

I agree it doesn't, but if I were a defense attorney with a situation where a meter reader came to a site many times and reported many times and later it is found out he was arrested on "KIDNAPPING" charges whereby your defense is based on a KIDNAPPING,,,

well

I think it would be manna from heaven.

Well I think that this piece of news, that has been dug up on this guy(only because someone is really reaching, when they should be Thankful that Caylee has been found) is not gonna help the defence in any way, because that case was thrown out and it was  a grown woman not a child in that case, and also with the evidence to show that Casey and only Casey is responsible for this childs death is going down and no one else........Defense can try whatever they want to  but I say this will be a poor response to throw at Kronk when bottom line....................he found Caylee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN I HEAR THAT...they can grasp all they want....bottom line that monster killed Caylee.   Good luck to Baez because he cannot even explain the mere fact that Casey lied that she talked to Caylee "for a moment" on July 15 around noon "HI MOMMY" when the poor precious angel was dead for a month!

[no rose colored glasses]

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ggrrrrr   I hate Whoraldo.          

I do to, but what I'm reading here about what he said about the meter reader, typical Geraldo, and his bs. And lets not get me started on his cockiness.

[Russ]

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I still dont see what this has to do with him finding Caylees body.  I know there's something going on in the background on how he knew to look where he did, but whatever went on in his past , at least to me, has nothing to do with finding a missing childs body.....boy, You would have to be sqeeky clean not ot be talking about in this case, Im glad I wasnt involved with any of them, I would hate to see them look back in my past, because they would be bored as HEll, but I bet they would find the Trespassing charge I recieved when I was 22 and was walking my dog on someone elses land and got busted.......LOL.....

I agree it doesn't, but if I were a defense attorney with a situation where a meter reader came to a site many times and reported many times and later it is found out he was arrested on "KIDNAPPING" charges whereby your defense is based on a KIDNAPPING,,,

well

I think it would be manna from heaven.

Well I think that this piece of news, that has been dug up on this guy(only because someone is really reaching, when they should be Thankful that Caylee has been found) is not gonna help the defence in any way, because that case was thrown out and it was  a grown woman not a child in that case, and also with the evidence to show that Casey and only Casey is responsible for this childs death is going down and no one else........Defense can try whatever they want to  but I say this will be a poor response to throw at Kronk when bottom line....................he found Caylee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if it was dug up on him yet.  He released the information maybe to preempt it coming out later.

[Puzzler]

let me just add another opinion of mine.........

KC probably doesn't even know who or what a tax collector does....she wasn't paying taxes on all the money she was stealing, I can guarantee you that much!

Oooohhhh!  IRS !!

[BooMonkey]

Just an FYI, it's a full moon tonight and that usually means a messy cage by the end of the night!!! 

[higherhopes]

Just an FYI, it's a full moon tonight and that usually means a messy cage by the end of the night!!! 

Yea, never fails to happen........scary!

[Shan1628]

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ggrrrrr   I hate Whoraldo.          

With any luck, the next hurricane will drag his azz out to sea