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« Reply #1860 on: January 10, 2009, 05:01:00 PM »

This is a long post, but I wanted to cite the sources that I used to draw my conclusion. These are my thoughts only. I have no ‘inside’ information. I may be wrong.  I would be very happy to be wrong.

OzInterest posted these things about her husband…

December 22, 2008, 06:14:56 AM
“My Hubby is in LE here and is in the MIG group, which covers only major crime. He has had some "official" contact with LE involved in this case and let me tell you that there will be some explosions "if" it goes to trial.”

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December 22, 2008, 07:01:03 AM
“He is, very good at his job and is definately one of the good cops.
This is not the first time he has had input into a case in the US, being in the group his talents are sought after world wide. Some of the things he has seen and dealt with are sickening. I can't really tell you why he is involved but sufficed to say that he hasn't told me everything he knows either.”


I wondered why Australian LE would be involved in a Florida murder case. It’s a ghastly case to be sure, but ‘american slut murders her baby’ wouldn’t normally merit international LE involvement. And then I found this…       

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) is involved in international activities in the following categories: Terrorism, Natural Disasters, Human Trafficking, and Child Protection Operations.   


http://www.afp.gov.au/international/child_protection_operations.html
“Child Protection Operations -- The AFP has a significant role to play in ensuring children and young people are safe, no matter what environment they are in. In fulfilling this role, the AFP has forged strong partnerships with all Australian law enforcement agencies as well as many international agencies. The AFP, through its High Tech Crime Operations unit, is responsible for the investigation of crimes associated with Online Child Sex Exploitation and Child Sex Tourism. The AFP is also a member of the Virtual Global Taskforce, an alliance made up of law enforcement agencies around the world who are working together to fight online child abuse.”


Furthermore, I noticed the following international child porn joint-investigations all made a large number of arrests in November and December of 2008.

Australia “Operation Resistance”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/retired-qc-among-19-men-in-child-porn-arrests-20081211-6wsb.html

Canada & Europe “Operation Koala”
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/01/16/koala-follo.html

United States “Operation Joint Hammer”
http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0812/081212washington.htm


With Desdemona’s help, I found this transcript.  It mentions the 1,200 pictures that Sergeant John Allen refers to when interviewing George on July 24th 2008.  This is the same interview that made George so ill he left the room and vomited. These pictures have not been released to the media/public. 
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

And then I saw this post from luckycharmsprincess

January 09, 2009, 11:06:26 PM
“And lastly, let's not forget that there was a SEX CRIME unit that went to the Anthony house in August. I'm not sure if this is standard practice. And there were two men from out of state who had mentioned some sort of sexual photos. I don't believe anyone has followed up on this.”


I have not been able to find another source that reports the presence of a Sex Crime unit at the Anthony’s home. But I’m sure that’s a reflection of my ability to research and not a problem with luckycharmsprincess' memory.

So, taking all that information into consideration, I believe that while investigating Caylee’s murder, LE found a connection to child pornography.  And is investigating this as a separate case from the murder.     

Anybody else have any thoughts about this? I would be happy to be wrong.

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Anything is possible with this case. If you haven't listened to Wendy Murphy when she was on the Dana show on Dec. 21, you might find it very enlightening as she discussed child porn as a real possiblity. I certainly wouldn't rule it out myself. Great investigating on your part!!



Is it possible that this is the MIG group involved:

http://tango01.cit.nih.gov/sig/home.taf?_function=main&SIGInfo_SIGID=60

Indexed in the ISI Web of Knowledge  The Mitochondria Interest Group (MIG) is an Inter-Institute Interest Group at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with members worldwide! MIG is concerned with all aspects of the mitochondrion and diseases in which the mitochondrion is involved.

  D@mn, have to edit my OWN post..........I meant to c/p this link:

http://www.australianpolicecars.com/abbreviations.htm

The MIG group in Australia is the Major Incident Group.........any ideas???


MIG is a pretty common acronym for -  Military Intelligence Group 

Yes it is, but in THIS case, her hubby is with the Australian LE~and MIG in Western Australia is Major Incident Group.
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« Reply #1861 on: January 10, 2009, 05:01:27 PM »

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    Thanks for the warning.   Maybe I'll go watch the Ravens game and drink a couple of beers so I don't get in trouble.     

I need something to chill me out, anyway.   Geraldo really pisses me off.   I'm so mad at Fox media.  Gretta is almost as bad - she's been slanting things for the defense lately.     
Then you got topix showing their a$$.   yeah - I need a beer.
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« Reply #1862 on: January 10, 2009, 05:02:04 PM »

WHORALDO is coming back on after the retraction....Julie said hes talking about what the defense will use   SO it is clear he is assisting Baez in tainting the jury pool with smoke and mirrors

Im not worried in the least about Casey getting convicted for murder one, rightfully so - Im just outraged over the muck & ilk the defense team & the Anthony family is willing to muddy the waters with to save that evil tart - Geraldo should be ashamed of himself as a father of daughters if nothing else
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« Reply #1863 on: January 10, 2009, 05:02:46 PM »

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18448218


Read at your leisure.

READ AND WEEP

What part of this is not comprehensible?

"As a result of that confrontation, I was arrested based on false allegations that I had kidnapped my former girlfriend," Kronk said. "I chose to disclose this arrest and the expungement of the records because I had nothing to hide, and (I) have a personal policy of openness and honesty about events in my life."


Relax.  It is public knowledge and being reported.  I didn't report it.  Kronk did.  It is not good news.  Geraldo was wrong to say arrested on rape, but I think kidnapping is even worse.  If you don't think this is the news of the next week for the defense, I don't know what to tell you.  I am just letting you know.


hmmmmm well if you ask ME,... and clearly no one did... I THINK that when you RAPE someone, you ARE holding them against their will.... which is LIKE kidnapping... but with an added BONUS ...*puke*.....


I agree, but the arrest is the key: Kidnapping.  It is what the defense said happened to Caylee.


yes... kidnapping sounds HORRIBLE for THIS case... no matter WHAT the circumstances were.. or werent... its like GERALDO said... *gag*..  its a place for the defense to start with.... and use...


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« Reply #1864 on: January 10, 2009, 05:03:07 PM »

WHORALDO is coming back on after the retraction....Julie said hes talking about what the defense will use   SO it is clear he is assisting Baez in tainting the jury pool with smoke and mirrors

Im not worried in the least about Casey getting convicted for murder one, rightfully so - Im just outraged over the muck & ilk the defense team & the Anthony family is willing to muddy the waters with to save that evil tart - Geraldo should be ashamed of himself as a father of daughters if nothing else


You know, I hate Geraldo with a passion. I wish that hurricane had taken him for a ride out to sea.
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« Reply #1865 on: January 10, 2009, 05:03:11 PM »

WHORALDO is coming back on after the retraction....Julie said hes talking about what the defense will use   SO it is clear he is assisting Baez in tainting the jury pool with smoke and mirrors

Im not worried in the least about Casey getting convicted for murder one, rightfully so - Im just outraged over the muck & ilk the defense team & the Anthony family is willing to muddy the waters with to save that evil tart - Geraldo should be ashamed of himself as a father of daughters if nothing else

The man has NO SOUL.
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« Reply #1866 on: January 10, 2009, 05:03:37 PM »

Hey, those Topix ppl are pretty good. I have read there and also Fox Orlando.
One thing that I read there that fizzled with no further info was about the chloroform.
Someone popped in and spoke as if they knew what they were talking bout . They said something to the effect that there was chloroform in a bottle stolen from a house of a " friend " or someone that Casey knew. The person had it so they could do things ( I guess toe nail clipping / teeth brushing  ) to their dogs. Oh it will all come out. We still haven't seen Annie's official statement have we ?     

i read on, i think topix? annie d. worked in a vets office & had access to chloroform. don't know if this is true but i read it yesterday.

wendi

Not saying it isn't possible and I am not a vet, but I've never heard of chloroform being used to sedate an animal - at least not since the time they stopped using it to sedate humans. There are so many tranquilizers and other sedatives for working on animals, I can't see a vet using it today. Very dangerous.


FWIW, I also thought it was a very old practice and not in use, but googled just out of curiousity and apparently vets do use it to euthanize them.   



Never heard of it used for that either. Most vets just use standard IV solution for large and small animals: 1) knock them out; 2) stop the heart. Could be chloroform is cheaper (IV solution goes by weight of animal) and if the owner is not present, they might use it instead although I've never heard of it being used to euthanize.
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« Reply #1867 on: January 10, 2009, 05:03:58 PM »

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« Reply #1870 on: January 10, 2009, 05:05:33 PM »

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« Reply #1871 on: January 10, 2009, 05:06:01 PM »

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The defense team is saying they found......Geraldo you better apologize
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« Reply #1872 on: January 10, 2009, 05:06:12 PM »

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« Reply #1873 on: January 10, 2009, 05:06:46 PM »

It sure appears D Casey was trying to destroy evidence, picking up things and tossing them.
If he was he has Blood on his hands, that will never wash off. What job is worth that? Why would you stick your neck out like that for the Anthonys? How can you sleep at night knowing you were trying to tamper with the crime scene of a 2 yr old girl? It is very troubling to know there is so many willing people to help try and cover up a murder. IMO.
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« Reply #1874 on: January 10, 2009, 05:06:48 PM »

Hey, those Topix ppl are pretty good. I have read there and also Fox Orlando.
One thing that I read there that fizzled with no further info was about the chloroform.
Someone popped in and spoke as if they knew what they were talking bout . They said something to the effect that there was chloroform in a bottle stolen from a house of a " friend " or someone that Casey knew. The person had it so they could do things ( I guess toe nail clipping / teeth brushing  ) to their dogs. Oh it will all come out. We still haven't seen Annie's official statement have we ?     

i read on, i think topix? annie d. worked in a vets office & had access to chloroform. don't know if this is true but i read it yesterday.

wendi

Not saying it isn't possible and I am not a vet, but I've never heard of chloroform being used to sedate an animal - at least not since the time they stopped using it to sedate humans. There are so many tranquilizers and other sedatives for working on animals, I can't see a vet using it today. Very dangerous.


FWIW, I also thought it was a very old practice and not in use, but googled just out of curiousity and apparently vets do use it to euthanize them.   



Never heard of it used for that either. Most vets just use standard IV solution for large and small animals: 1) knock them out; 2) stop the heart. Could be chloroform is cheaper (IV solution goes by weight of animal) and if the owner is not present, they might use it instead although I've never heard of it being used to euthanize.
  I've never heard of it being used either. My dad is anesthesiologist and when all the chloroform info came out back in early September, he said they haven't used chloroform in ages (on people). Way before he got his med license and that was early 60's.
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« Reply #1876 on: January 10, 2009, 05:08:59 PM »

Geraldo just said that Roy Kronk will be on Good Morning America on Monday and that he will be paid for the interview.  He further said that the defense will use this as Kronk wanting attention and money.

HA!  What would you call Baez trying to sell an interview with KC for $500,000???!!!

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« Reply #1877 on: January 10, 2009, 05:09:32 PM »

WHORALDO is coming back on after the retraction....Julie said hes talking about what the defense will use   SO it is clear he is assisting Baez in tainting the jury pool with smoke and mirrors

Im not worried in the least about Casey getting convicted for murder one, rightfully so - Im just outraged over the muck & ilk the defense team & the Anthony family is willing to muddy the waters with to save that evil tart - Geraldo should be ashamed of himself as a father of daughters if nothing else

The man has NO SOUL.

If you believe the reports that cops having OVERWHELMING evidence that Casey killed Caylee by herself and NOT by accident, then there are only 2 possibilities for a defense:  1) Make the best deal they can to give Casey the least sentence possible; 2) Smoke and mirrors, throw anything against the wall and hope that something, anything sticks, and there is one moron on the jury who will buy into it.
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« Reply #1878 on: January 10, 2009, 05:09:43 PM »

So, I'm open up to the idea that Casey was indeed somehow involved in some type of pornography group. I do remember George stating that she wanted to become a professional photographer and photography was a big hobby of hers. Maybe she was using Caylee and Cindy found something. That would explain the violent fight on June 15th.  It would also tie in the conversation in jail between Cindy and Casey where Cindy made some comment about Casey's involvement and Casey responded along the lines of "What do you mean you don't know what my involvement is??" 

Just thinking out loud....
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