Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #88

[Hudsunn]

I don't discount the possibility of Casey using Caylee for kiddie porn.  Yes, she loves attention for herself, but she also loves money.  And I think she wanted to save enough money to go to California or maybe even leave the country.  I doubt she had been doing it for long, if she was doing it.  I also think she was into something of that nature herself, and maybe the people she worked with told her a kid was a valuable asset.  It is sickening, but anything is possible with her.

[Pebbles]

What Geraldo doesn't realize is that most of us do not like the person who is in jail for killing their baby being paid for interviews or " fees" to pay for their defense. Or ppl who want immunity ?? even tho they did nothing wrong.
Kronk is not a criminal, his record was EXPUNGED. Means it is gone as if it never happened. Not sealed.

ITA with your post!  Also I'm not a lawyer but I wouldn't think Kronk's records would be allowed to be in KC's trial since it was expunged. Here is info from Wikipedia on it:
Florida law allows for expungement of criminal records that do not include a conviction, and permits the sealing or expungement of records where adjudication was withheld.[4] To be eligible for sealing or expungement, the defendant must not have been convicted of or have pled guilty to any criminal offense, and must not have previously received an expungement or sealing. Some criminal records are ineligible for expungement or sealing if they resulted in a final disposition of Adjudication Withheld.[5][6] A Certificate of Eligibility from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is required prior to petitioning the court for an order to seal or expunge a record. There is a $75.00 charge for the Certificate of Eligibility. A successful sealing will limit disclosure of the record to only the Florida Bar, the Florida Department of Children and Families, the Florida Board of Education, law enforcement and in a few other circumstances. An expunged record will be unavailable for dissemination to any private or public entity, though the four agencies that can see a sealed record will be informed only that a record has been expunged
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expungement#Florida

It just sounded like a domestic boyfriend-girlfriend+another guy friend "he said, she said" argument to me. I think the defense media is blowing it up. JMO though.

Yes I agree.  I think Geraldo is using his show to try and help the defense to try and taint the jury.  I don't like the fact that Fox allows this. 

[Hudsunn]

Another thing that makes me think the worst about Casey is that her own mother was threatening to get custody of Caylee.  It would take some pretty bad stuff for a court to award custody to the grandparents, a lot more than just being out of work and liking to party.

[Cappuccino]

Okie dokie now I know Geraldo is ignoring evidence to help Baez for certain

He claims the tape is not confirmed to have been on Caylee,  YES IT WAS in open court & by the new police source news of yesterday.  In open court the State specifically stated in the motion to obtain fingerprint info of the Anthony family was if fingerprints and other materials would be found on the duct tape and bag.  The report stated that the duct tape was indeed over Caylee's mouth - Jessica D'Onofiro confirming same last night on NG[

My new mission is to get this weathered bloviator off the airwaves/color]

Do you have an email for Fox to complain to?  Or a link?  Fox really needs to get rid of Geraldo. 
Thanks!

CONTACT US info for FOXNEWS....OPERATION WHORALDO MUST GO!http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html

[islandmonkey]

Another thing that makes me think the worst about Casey is that her own mother was threatening to get custody of Caylee.  It would take some pretty bad stuff for a court to award custody to the grandparents, a lot more than just being out of work and liking to party.

Excellent point Hudsunn

[NewfieMonkey]

Hi, Monkeys!  Coming out of lurking mode to ask what ITA stands for.  I keep seeing it in some posts and get stuck trying to figure it out.  Thanks.

I totally agree 

Thank you Brandi and Newfie.  It was one of those things where I was stuck on stupid trying to figure it out and it was slowing me down.  I appreciate your help.

It's not stuck on stupid ... just a new generation of slang!  I use this site ... to keep track of what young people (like my son and his friends) are IMing and texting to one another!   
http://searchunifiedcommunications.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid186_gci1128082,00.html#T

[no rose colored glasses]

Just an FYI, it's a full moon tonight and that usually means a messy cage by the end of the night!!! 

Boo, you ready for some more tea? I'm the one who is ailing, however. You could make me some, with muscle relaxants (got in an accident yesterday...darn old men drivers!) and painkillers.

I'll come up with a trivia question for ya later! Oh, wait, drat! I don't have any insider info (just that Whorealdo is an ass, but you knew that, right?)

I'm sorry to hear that, the tea might work for that, hope you feel better soon.

[Pebbles]

Okie dokie now I know Geraldo is ignoring evidence to help Baez for certain

He claims the tape is not confirmed to have been on Caylee,  YES IT WAS in open court & by the new police source news of yesterday.  In open court the State specifically stated in the motion to obtain fingerprint info of the Anthony family was if fingerprints and other materials would be found on the duct tape and bag.  The report stated that the duct tape was indeed over Caylee's mouth - Jessica D'Onofiro confirming same last night on NG[

My new mission is to get this weathered bloviator off the airwaves/color]

Do you have an email for Fox to complain to?  Or a link?  Fox really needs to get rid of Geraldo. 
Thanks!

CONTACT US info for FOXNEWS....OPERATION WHORALDO MUST GO!http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html

Thanks! I'm going to email and complain.  IMO Geraldo went over the line when he talked about Kronk.  That should never have been broadcast.  Also he has no business twisting the facts in favor of the defense just to help out his friend Baez. That is unethical.

[JodyO]

Another thing that makes me think the worst about Casey is that her own mother was threatening to get custody of Caylee.  It would take some pretty bad stuff for a court to award custody to the grandparents, a lot more than just being out of work and liking to party.

Yesterday, you asked about the three young girls sitting behind the prosecution in court - I answered you a couple of pages later, but you were already gone. Anyway, I don't have any idea who they were, but one of them looked so familiar I got hung up watching her and trying to figure out where I had seen her before.

[higherhopes]

A hair, which showed signs of decomposition, was also found in the trunk. Sources said the hair matches hair taken from Caylee's remains.

Sources said the time frame coupled with other evidence -- duct tape found over the mouth of Caylee's skull, high levels of chloroform detected in the trunk and cell phone pings from Anthony's phone that place her near the crime scene in mid-June -- points only to Anthony as the killer.<snipped>


    This is what I mean by ....Casey is going down.......if I was on the Jury, I would convict her a$$ on this alone, much less all the other evidence that LE has..........Baez better stop chasing his tail and get busy trying to find something to cause a speck of sympathy for Casey from the jury, after they see this poor childs bones that were left in the woods, hear the ex-cops statement of Casey calling Caylee a little snot head.......see the partying pictures of her after she threw this childs body in those woods..........nothing is gonna keep them from finding her guilty and so instead of trying to raise some doubt and throw poor Kronk and whoever else he can find under the bus, he better just stick to begging the jury to have what ever compassion for Casey he can throw up!

[joesamas mama]

I don't discount the possibility of Casey using Caylee for kiddie porn.  Yes, she loves attention for herself, but she also loves money.  And I think she wanted to save enough money to go to California or maybe even leave the country.  I doubt she had been doing it for long, if she was doing it.  I also think she was into something of that nature herself, and maybe the people she worked with told her a kid was a valuable asset.  It is sickening, but anything is possible with her.

But she never had any money. She stole from her family, friends, etc. They never found any money socked away in a drawer at her home did they? The only money I know she even had was the dough Cindy took when LE rooted through her purse and that money was Amy's.

[Nut44x4]

BUMP Clean cage on the way real soon

[joesamas mama]

Another thing that makes me think the worst about Casey is that her own mother was threatening to get custody of Caylee.  It would take some pretty bad stuff for a court to award custody to the grandparents, a lot more than just being out of work and liking to party.

Did Cindy really try and get custody? Or was she bluffing to make Casey become a "normal" mother.

I believe Cindy was just bs'n Casey about custody. If she wanted custody of Caylee, she could have let her mom turn her in for stealing from the Grandad's account. Cindy didn't do that. KC would be in jail, Caylee with no father becomes Cindy's.

[akmom]

So, I'm open up to the idea that Casey was indeed somehow involved in some type of pornography group. I do remember George stating that she wanted to become a professional photographer and photography was a big hobby of hers. Maybe she was using Caylee and Cindy found something. That would explain the violent fight on June 15th.  It would also tie in the conversation in jail between Cindy and Casey where Cindy made some comment about Casey's involvement and Casey responded along the lines of "What do you mean you don't know what my involvement is??" 

Just thinking out loud....

I'm beginning to believe maybe Casey used Caylee in some type of kiddie porn.....just speculating, but from reading Oz's post regarding her hubby being with MIG in Australia LE, it's starting to look like absolutely anything is possible and Caylee was most likely starting to articulate to others what was going on.......just theories, no nanner throwing

I have been worried about this from  the beginning.  It appeared  that Caylee loved her great grandpa, but I have always thought that she looked fearful when she was sitting on his lap.  It could have set off fears about what she had already been exposed to(by her mother).  Many, many victims of sexual abuse do not tell anyone because of the fear that has been instilled in them

I agree, in that picture she looks scared and so sad IMO. Also refarding victims of sexual abuse you are DEAD ON!!!!!!! My son was a victim at age 3, and he was threatened if he told that I would be eaten by alligators and monsters. To this day (he will be 9 Jan 29th), he has no fear of anything happening to him, but he fears for me, Before we moved away from our old home I had to carry a Glock to make him worry less.....very sad, but true.

Hugs to you and your son.  You have been very brave, and also very giving in relating your families' experience with this.  I wish you and your son all the best in life in the years to come.

[higherhopes]

Another thing that makes me think the worst about Casey is that her own mother was threatening to get custody of Caylee.  It would take some pretty bad stuff for a court to award custody to the grandparents, a lot more than just being out of work and liking to party.

Dont mean to sound indifferent, but just because they were threatening didnt mean that they would get it, but even if they had just think about it, If Casey wasnt allowed to live with them anymore than certainly that would be one thing that would help them obtain custody............no place to live, no job, the stealing of money, the fact that without them she wouldnt even have a vehicle to drive, so no transportation........yea I think that might do it!  Not to mention the fact that they have been the one responcible for Caylee from her birth......
    I dont think she was used in the porn thing though................I see it being only Casey myself!!!!!

[heykim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBG8mIiwoE


if ya want to attach the YOUTUBE of geraldo telling BAEZ that he considers him his FRIEND....

[Lovinlife]

I asked this yesterday but didn't get a response.  Does anyone know when the next doc. dump will be?  I have a feeling it will be soon. 

TYIA, Lovinlife

Oh, and to all that wished me fun and safety while sled riding, we are back in one piece and very tired!   

[islandmonkey]

So, I'm open up to the idea that Casey was indeed somehow involved in some type of pornography group. I do remember George stating that she wanted to become a professional photographer and photography was a big hobby of hers. Maybe she was using Caylee and Cindy found something. That would explain the violent fight on June 15th.  It would also tie in the conversation in jail between Cindy and Casey where Cindy made some comment about Casey's involvement and Casey responded along the lines of "What do you mean you don't know what my involvement is??" 

Just thinking out loud....

I'm beginning to believe maybe Casey used Caylee in some type of kiddie porn.....just speculating, but from reading Oz's post regarding her hubby being with MIG in Australia LE, it's starting to look like absolutely anything is possible and Caylee was most likely starting to articulate to others what was going on.......just theories, no nanner throwing

I have been worried about this from  the beginning.  It appeared  that Caylee loved her great grandpa, but I have always thought that she looked fearful when she was sitting on his lap.  It could have set off fears about what she had already been exposed to(by her mother).  Many, many victims of sexual abuse do not tell anyone because of the fear that has been instilled in them

I agree, in that picture she looks scared and so sad IMO. Also refarding victims of sexual abuse you are DEAD ON!!!!!!! My son was a victim at age 3, and he was threatened if he told that I would be eaten by alligators and monsters. To this day (he will be 9 Jan 29th), he has no fear of anything happening to him, but he fears for me, Before we moved away from our old home I had to carry a Glock to make him worry less.....very sad, but true.

Hugs to you and your son.  You have been very brave, and also very giving in relating your families' experience with this.  I wish you and your son all the best in life in the years to come.

Thanks for your sweet words~ we are doing great since we moved away, and I have always been very open about this because I feel if I can stop just ONE child from this abuse that rips your soul away, I'll talk about it all day. But, my son is thriving now~thanks again for your words.

[heykim]

A hair, which showed signs of decomposition, was also found in the trunk. Sources said the hair matches hair taken from Caylee's remains.

Sources said the time frame coupled with other evidence -- duct tape found over the mouth of Caylee's skull, high levels of chloroform detected in the trunk and cell phone pings from Anthony's phone that place her near the crime scene in mid-June -- points only to Anthony as the killer.<snipped>


    This is what I mean by ....Casey is going down.......if I was on the Jury, I would convict her a$$ on this alone, much less all the other evidence that LE has..........Baez better stop chasing his tail and get busy trying to find something to cause a speck of sympathy for Casey from the jury, after they see this poor childs bones that were left in the woods, hear the ex-cops statement of Casey calling Caylee a little snot head.......see the partying pictures of her after she threw this childs body in those woods..........nothing is gonna keep them from finding her guilty and so instead of trying to raise some doubt and throw poor Kronk and whoever else he can find under the bus, he better just stick to begging the jury to have what ever compassion for Casey he can throw up!

wont the defense just say that OF COURSE her phone pinged near the scene.. SHE LIVES near the SCENE..

not that i LIKE that... but isnt that something that they can say? would the PING be any DIFFERENT from the SCENE to where the ANTHONYS home is?

i hope it would... but i rather doubt it... since it was so freakin close..

[joesamas mama]

I asked this yesterday but didn't get a response.  Does anyone know when the next doc. dump will be?  I have a feeling it will be soon. 

TYIA, Lovinlife

Oh, and to all that wished me fun and safety while sled riding, we are back in one piece and very tired!   

Not sure Lovinlife, may be about 15 days after the last hearing. I think that is the time frame the prosecutors have to release stuff to the defense, then we get it.