Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #88

[joesamas mama]

Hey, those Topix ppl are pretty good. I have read there and also Fox Orlando.
One thing that I read there that fizzled with no further info was about the chloroform.
Someone popped in and spoke as if they knew what they were talking bout . They said something to the effect that there was chloroform in a bottle stolen from a house of a " friend " or someone that Casey knew. The person had it so they could do things ( I guess toe nail clipping / teeth brushing  ) to their dogs. Oh it will all come out. We still haven't seen Annie's official statement have we ?     

i read on, i think topix? annie d. worked in a vets office & had access to chloroform. don't know if this is true but i read it yesterday.

wendi

Not saying it isn't possible and I am not a vet, but I've never heard of chloroform being used to sedate an animal - at least not since the time they stopped using it to sedate humans. There are so many tranquilizers and other sedatives for working on animals, I can't see a vet using it today. Very dangerous.

FWIW, I also thought it was a very old practice and not in use, but googled just out of curiousity and apparently vets do use it to euthanize them.   

Never heard of it used for that either. Most vets just use standard IV solution for large and small animals: 1) knock them out; 2) stop the heart. Could be chloroform is cheaper (IV solution goes by weight of animal) and if the owner is not present, they might use it instead although I've never heard of it being used to euthanize.

One more thing, I do know they dope the cats up at Joe's daycare to give them a bath. I didn't know they did that, but I know they don't use chloroform. They give them something, then later on give an antidote to wake them up. Sorry cat people, but it is kind of funny to see a drunken cat in a tub of suds. 

[Shan1628]

It sure appears D Casey was trying to destroy evidence, picking up things and tossing them.

If he was he has Blood on his hands, that will never wash off. What job is worth that? Why would you stick your neck out like that for the Anthonys? How can you sleep at night knowing you were trying to tamper with the crime scene of a 2 yr old girl? It is very troubling to know there is so many willing people to help try and cover up a murder. IMO.

ITA.  MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.  It's sickening.

[heykim]

QUOTE:AMEN I HEAR THAT...they can grasp all they want....bottom line that monster killed Caylee.   Good luck to Baez because he cannot even explain the mere fact that Casey lied that she talked to Caylee "for a moment" on July 15 around noon "HI MOMMY" when the poor precious angel was dead for a month!


yeah... well... it was someone who SOUNDED like caylee... and she only SPOKE for a moment.. and she hadnt HEARD her voice for a month...


bah... gah...

makes me SICK...

[higherhopes]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18448218


Read at your leisure.

READ AND WEEP

What part of this is not comprehensible?

"As a result of that confrontation, I was arrested based on false allegations that I had kidnapped my former girlfriend," Kronk said. "I chose to disclose this arrest and the expungement of the records because I had nothing to hide, and (I) have a personal policy of openness and honesty about events in my life."

Relax.  It is public knowledge and being reported.  I didn't report it.  Kronk did.  It is not good news.  Geraldo was wrong to say arrested on rape, but I think kidnapping is even worse.  If you don't think this is the news of the next week for the defense, I don't know what to tell you.  I am just letting you know.

hmmmmm well if you ask ME,... and clearly no one did... I THINK that when you RAPE someone, you ARE holding them against their will.... which is LIKE kidnapping... but with an added BONUS ...*puke*.....

I agree, but the arrest is the key: Kidnapping.  It is what the defense said happened to Caylee.

yes... kidnapping sounds HORRIBLE for THIS case... no matter WHAT the circumstances were.. or werent... its like GERALDO said... *gag*..  its a place for the defense to start with.... and use...


its amazing what twists and turns REAL life has... all the webs and ties...

Well, it clear that Baez's little b!ot(h, Whoraldo, is trying to help place doubt with the Jury, but I for one think they will be smarter than that, wspecially when all the evidence comes out showing just what LE has on Casey, and showing the Jury that she killed Caylee and no one else, so after this I dont see where a kidnapping story would even make the Jury bat and eye, hell are they gonna say he kidnapped a dead child, please!!!!!!!
    Also I dont doubt that the DP will be put back on just so the Prosecution can get rid of Baez and actually have a real Atourney show up in court and have a real trial!!!!!!!!!!!!At least that way they wont have to try to keep a clear face on for the Judge when they try to keep from laughing at stupid Baez, and his inappropriate way of doing things!!!!

[joesamas mama]

Geraldo just said that Roy Kronk will be on Good Morning America on Monday and that he will be paid for the interview.  He further said that the defense will use this as Kronk wanting attention and money.

HA!  What would you call Baez trying to sell an interview with KC for $500,000???!!!

Or Cindy and George and their LifeTime movie deal? Attention? NOPE. $$$$$$$$$ YEP.

[no rose colored glasses]

Geraldo just said that Roy Kronk will be on Good Morning America on Monday and that he will be paid for the interview.  He further said that the defense will use this as Kronk wanting attention and money.

HA!  What would you call Baez trying to sell an interview with KC for $500,000???!!!

Is hurricane season coming soon?

[Cappuccino]

Okie dokie now I know Geraldo is ignoring evidence to help Baez for certain

He claims the tape is not confirmed to have been on Caylee,  YES IT WAS in open court & by the new police source news of yesterday.  In open court the State specifically stated in the motion to obtain fingerprint info of the Anthony family was if fingerprints and other materials would be found on the duct tape and bag.  The report stated that the duct tape was indeed over Caylee's mouth - Jessica D'Onofiro confirming same last night on NG[

My new mission is to get this weathered bloviator off the airwaves/color]

[islandmonkey]

So, I'm open up to the idea that Casey was indeed somehow involved in some type of pornography group. I do remember George stating that she wanted to become a professional photographer and photography was a big hobby of hers. Maybe she was using Caylee and Cindy found something. That would explain the violent fight on June 15th.  It would also tie in the conversation in jail between Cindy and Casey where Cindy made some comment about Casey's involvement and Casey responded along the lines of "What do you mean you don't know what my involvement is??" 

Just thinking out loud....

I'm beginning to believe maybe Casey used Caylee in some type of kiddie porn.....just speculating, but from reading Oz's post regarding her hubby being with MIG in Australia LE, it's starting to look like absolutely anything is possible and Caylee was most likely starting to articulate to others what was going on.......just theories, no nanner throwing

[no rose colored glasses]

Okie dokie now I know Geraldo is ignoring evidence to help Baez for certain

He claims the tape is not confirmed to have been on Caylee,  YES IT WAS in open court & by the new police source news of yesterday.  In open court the State specifically stated in the motion to obtain fingerprint info of the Anthony family was if fingerprints and other materials would be found on the duct tape and bag.  The report stated that the duct tape was indeed over Caylee's mouth - Jessica D'Onofiro confirming same last night on NG[

My new mission is to get this weathered bloviator off the airwaves/color]

I'm with you on that.

[Nut44x4]

[joesamas mama]

So, I'm open up to the idea that Casey was indeed somehow involved in some type of pornography group. I do remember George stating that she wanted to become a professional photographer and photography was a big hobby of hers. Maybe she was using Caylee and Cindy found something. That would explain the violent fight on June 15th.  It would also tie in the conversation in jail between Cindy and Casey where Cindy made some comment about Casey's involvement and Casey responded along the lines of "What do you mean you don't know what my involvement is??" 

Just thinking out loud....

I'm open to the porn angle to an extent. I think the fight between Cindy and Casey on father's day was that Cindy told KC she needed to stay home with Caylee, be a mom for once in her life. Cindy had Caylee all day and KC probably had some excuse to go out and Cindy told her Hell no, you stay here. When was the fight about stealing from the Grandad's account happen? Maybe that was what the fight was about. I think if Cindy found porn pictures of Caylee, Cindy would have called the cops then and there. She needed an excuse to get custody. I don't think she found any picture or KC would be dead and Caylee would still be alive. JMO JSM

[JodyO]

It sure appears D Casey was trying to destroy evidence, picking up things and tossing them.

If he was he has Blood on his hands, that will never wash off. What job is worth that? Why would you stick your neck out like that for the Anthonys? How can you sleep at night knowing you were trying to tamper with the crime scene of a 2 yr old girl? It is very troubling to know there is so many willing people to help try and cover up a murder. IMO.

Just a really troubling suggestion on my part, but there are people who regard children, the younger ones more so, as not much more than property. After all, we have the Princeton professor, Peter Singer, who is the leader of the euthanasia movement in this country, who believes that not only is abortion up until delivery fine and dandy, but women should be permitted up to a certain age after the birth to snuff their children should they have a change of heart. This sort of stuff is nothing compared to what is happening in Europe, particularly with the Dutch.

[klaasend]

Klaas can you work your magic on this photo map. 4701 is on the right hand side of the map as well as 4709. They are side by side. The first one where the Gozalas lived is a much larger lot .It is defined by those black lines you can see behind it closer to where Caylee's body was found. So if you were driving down Suburban and turned on Hopespring the even numbers would be on your right and odd numbers on left. Make sense?

Sam

That is correct.  Kind of confusing on this map.  I would love for the parcel listing to have the names listed too.

Actually I know what you mean and have put together a couple of other maps that Red is going to use on a front page post.  Sorry just got back home and just saw this message.

[trimmonthelake]

Just an FYI, it's a full moon tonight and that usually means a messy cage by the end of the night!!! 

Thanks for the warning Boo. I'll fill up on cold meds and put a helmet on.   
Or you could send me some tea. 

[no rose colored glasses]

So, I'm open up to the idea that Casey was indeed somehow involved in some type of pornography group. I do remember George stating that she wanted to become a professional photographer and photography was a big hobby of hers. Maybe she was using Caylee and Cindy found something. That would explain the violent fight on June 15th.  It would also tie in the conversation in jail between Cindy and Casey where Cindy made some comment about Casey's involvement and Casey responded along the lines of "What do you mean you don't know what my involvement is??" 

Just thinking out loud....

I'm beginning to believe maybe Casey used Caylee in some type of kiddie porn.....just speculating, but from reading Oz's post regarding her hubby being with MIG in Australia LE, it's starting to look like absolutely anything is possible and Caylee was most likely starting to articulate to others what was going on.......just theories, no nanner throwing

I'm going down that same path, after reading all the info about MIG, for them to get involved in this country, on a case where a mother killed her child, it doesn't add up, there must be more to the story.

[Brandi]

Geraldo just said that Roy Kronk will be on Good Morning America on Monday and that he will be paid for the interview.  He further said that the defense will use this as Kronk wanting attention and money.

HA!  What would you call Baez trying to sell an interview with KC for $500,000???!!!

Hi Monkeys!

from: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18448218/detail.html#-:

It's customary for networks to pay expenses for its guests -- which Evans said would happen -- but he would not say if Kronk was being paid for the interview.

"Roy Kronk lost his wife to cancer last year, and that battle brought him down to his last dime," said Evans, who added that he would like to find a way to get his client some compensation.

I have no problem with him being compensated for expenses related to the interview. Not sure if Geraldo knows whether he is getting additional compensation or not.

Hi again!
 

[heykim]

It sure appears D Casey was trying to destroy evidence, picking up things and tossing them.

If he was he has Blood on his hands, that will never wash off. What job is worth that? Why would you stick your neck out like that for the Anthonys? How can you sleep at night knowing you were trying to tamper with the crime scene of a 2 yr old girl? It is very troubling to know there is so many willing people to help try and cover up a murder. IMO.

ITA.  MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.  It's sickening.

actually its THE LOVE  of MONEY  that is the root ...... but hey... IT IS sickening... that this LOVE of money would allow them to turn their collective backs on the baby.....

[Brachiate]

Anything is possible with this case. If you haven't listened to Wendy Murphy when she was on the Dana show on Dec. 21, you might find it very enlightening as she discussed child porn as a real possiblity. I certainly wouldn't rule it out myself. Great investigating on your part!!

Thanks for the heads up! I went and listened to the show. Wow. Wendy Murphy suggests that chloroform and xanex are used in child porn to keep the victims compliant and also because those drugs can cause a bit of amnesia.

I hear hoofbeats, I just can't tell if they are a horse or a zebra         

[Searching]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18448218


Read at your leisure.

READ AND WEEP

What part of this is not comprehensible?

"As a result of that confrontation, I was arrested based on false allegations that I had kidnapped my former girlfriend," Kronk said. "I chose to disclose this arrest and the expungement of the records because I had nothing to hide, and (I) have a personal policy of openness and honesty about events in my life."

Relax.  It is public knowledge and being reported.  I didn't report it.  Kronk did.  It is not good news.  Geraldo was wrong to say arrested on rape, but I think kidnapping is even worse. If you don't think this is the news of the next week for the defense, I don't know what to tell you.  I am just letting you know.

To a previous rape victim, that statement is inconsiderate. Obviously you have never been raped before,unless you have,you should not say something is worse then rape. In rape, not only are you held against your will, but your dignity is stripped from you and your feeling of safety is stripped from you as well, not to mention, the feelings linger for long after,so not only are you held against your will during,but after as it leaves you in so much fear.. Just sayin

[no rose colored glasses]

It sure appears D Casey was trying to destroy evidence, picking up things and tossing them.

If he was he has Blood on his hands, that will never wash off. What job is worth that? Why would you stick your neck out like that for the Anthonys? How can you sleep at night knowing you were trying to tamper with the crime scene of a 2 yr old girl? It is very troubling to know there is so many willing people to help try and cover up a murder. IMO.

Just a really troubling suggestion on my part, but there are people who regard children, the younger ones more so, as not much more than property. After all, we have the Princeton professor, Peter Singer, who is the leader of the euthanasia movement in this country, who believes that not only is abortion up until delivery fine and dandy, but women should be permitted up to a certain age after the birth to snuff their children should they have a change of heart. This sort of stuff is nothing compared to what is happening in Europe, particularly with the Dutch.

Thanks for opening my eyes to that, I was not aware, but will be checking on this Peter Singer.