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« Reply #880 on: January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion
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« Reply #881 on: January 18, 2009, 08:42:34 PM »
Quote from: KYcat on January 18, 2009, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 18, 2009, 08:29:23 PM
OK.I'll ask the question.How did Jossy and John become such fast friends?

Makes you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm,  don't it

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« Reply #882 on: January 18, 2009, 08:43:18 PM »
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« Reply #883 on: January 18, 2009, 08:44:48 PM »
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

I have not seen Kermit bash Kyle.  But I have seen YOU bash Kermit with a very childish cartoon intimating she's a drug user.  NOT ALLOWED!
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« Reply #884 on: January 18, 2009, 08:45:37 PM »
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

Bastibro - after nearly 4 years I doubt if ANYTHING will lead to ANYTHING.  One thing for certain from the posts of Kyle, he certainly wasn't going to help either.
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« Reply #885 on: January 18, 2009, 08:47:33 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2009, 08:42:34 PM
Quote from: KYcat on January 18, 2009, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 18, 2009, 08:29:23 PM
OK.I'll ask the question.How did Jossy and John become such fast friends?

Makes you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm,  don't it

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I know how you feel Janet, but we need to look at this connection.  I had faith in Jossy too. 

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #886 on: January 18, 2009, 08:50:03 PM »
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

Tell us why we shouldn't question Kyle,as well as the Persistence Bastibro?Kyle said the things he did.KYLE OPENED THE DOOR WIDE OPEN TO BE QUESTIONED BASTIBRO!I know ,or think your intelligent enough to understand that!
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« Reply #887 on: January 18, 2009, 08:52:44 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on January 18, 2009, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2009, 08:42:34 PM
Quote from: KYcat on January 18, 2009, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 18, 2009, 08:29:23 PM
OK.I'll ask the question.How did Jossy and John become such fast friends?

Makes you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm,  don't it

Got to be an oil connection MOO



 

I know how you feel Janet, but we need to look at this connection.  I had faith in Jossy too. 

 

Ditto.The Mansur's are to much of a fixture on that island to not be attached somewhere.

1.Jossy
2.Eduardo
3.Serge
4.Luis
5.Eric
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« Reply #888 on: January 18, 2009, 08:55:23 PM »
Lots of shoveling to do tomorrow    Night all.
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« Reply #889 on: January 18, 2009, 08:55:26 PM »
I can accept that Kyle does not feel the need to defend himself here.  But he needs to be man enough to defend himself to Beth Holloway.  He spouted out those comments on an internet website (which is NO guarantee of being secure) that he wanted the information put together so Beth would know what happened.  He couldn't put the words together by himself yet he could do it on a forum with total strangers.  Man up and own up to what happened on that ship is all anyone is asking.  The old saying:  If it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck, ....................   (sorry Janet, no offense to your duck)
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« Reply #890 on: January 18, 2009, 08:56:39 PM »
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Lots of shoveling to do tomorrow    Night all.

Night Nut.Better you then me! The Sun was shining in godd ol' Seattle!
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« Reply #891 on: January 18, 2009, 08:57:03 PM »
Quote from: Nut44x4 on January 18, 2009, 08:55:23 PM
Lots of shoveling to do tomorrow    Night all.

Sorry you've got that to look forward to tomorrow.  I know that's hard work!

Goodnight Nut!  
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #892 on: January 18, 2009, 08:59:42 PM »
Good Night Nut! It was 72 degrees today here in South Central Texas with Blue Skies! First Blue Skies We've seen in awhile.... 
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« Reply #893 on: January 18, 2009, 09:03:27 PM »
DANA PRETZER - ON NOW

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« Reply #894 on: January 18, 2009, 09:03:34 PM »
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

bastibro,

Kermit is not bashing Kyle!  She/he has revealed Kyle Kingmans own word's which expose the deception of the John Silvetti in regards to his participation in the finale' to the great Aruban coverup ... the finale' to the great Aruban coverup that implies that the opportunity to bring Natalee Holloway home to rest on American soil may have been lost forever.

Think about it bastibro.  Just try to put yourself in the place of Natalee Holloway's family.  I do believe that Kyle Kingman's own words would be devasting?  I also believe that you would be angry at Kyle for not immediately reporting the obstruction of justice to the proper authorties as well as sharing it with you.   

Janet

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KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle:  I took the proportions of the body form from the head, to shoulder, to a 90 degree angle which I believed to be the hem line of Natalee's skirt. I then took those proportions and matched them to the photo of Natalee with what she was last seen wearing. The proportions matched within an inch from head, to shoulder, to skirt line. Based on this comparison and with what we believed we saw in the Dec 29th video, Tim Miller contacted the family and told them the 99.9% comment. I told Tim not to do anything until we have forensic results back after the site is processed. Jan 7th we sampled the contents and in my opinion we found the skirt under the sand along with the other items The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.

Kyle:  I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap. That evening I talked to John asking when we plan on recovering the trap. Previously this was part of the talks and plan, but this time he doesn't seem concerned about ever looking into the trap further. After John verbally BASHED me about the trap for what I said to Tim Miller about the sand body-form and that I believed her skirt was under the sand, John pretty much committed himself to the belief the trap wasn't what we were after. This shocked me because it was exactly what we were looking for- a fish trap lost at sea with human remains.

Kyle:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship.
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« Reply #895 on: January 18, 2009, 09:04:02 PM »
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

Tell me what is worthy of thinking about in that post Bastibro?What do you want to talk about?I'm still patiently waiting.
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« Reply #896 on: January 18, 2009, 09:04:48 PM »
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

Kyle planted his ass at Chat and Grumble with a few other former SM posters.  I guess it is ok for him to discuss it over there.

We understand your opinion and how this might frustrate you and this is why I say skip the posts.  We cannot be forced not to discuss a subject just because someone doesn't agree with it.  There are other people who think otherwise.
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« Reply #897 on: January 18, 2009, 09:05:43 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 18, 2009, 09:04:02 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

Tell me what is worthy of thinking about in that post Bastibro?What do you want to talk about?I'm still patiently waiting.

Maybe i'll have to wait for another day.I just hope Johan and Bastibro aren't part of the Hidey-hole crowd.Now that would be disappointing!
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« Reply #898 on: January 18, 2009, 09:06:44 PM »
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

Okay, you are irritated....Start another course of conversation.  As a member, you are welcome to bring your ideas and research to the forum.  Go for it. 
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« Reply #899 on: January 18, 2009, 09:06:57 PM »
Quote from: San on January 18, 2009, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 18, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 18, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
bastibro or Johan555,

Can you back up your negative posts toward Kermit with something that is worthy of thinking about?   

Yes! I think its time for her to stop bashing Kyle the whole time.
Kyle has chose to not defend himself here at SM and thats his right.
Everything here seems to be about the Kyle and the Persistence issue, thats what irritates me.
I`m convinced this will lead to . . nothing!
I`m sorry, that`s my opinion

Kyle planted his ass at Chat and Grumble with a few other former SM posters.  I guess it is ok for him to discuss it over there.

We understand your opinion and how this might frustrate you and this is why I say skip the posts.  We cannot be forced not to discuss a subject just because someone doesn't agree with it.  There are other people who think otherwise.

Just how many boards has Kyle been on spouting his garbage?
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