Natalee Case Discussion #793 1/13/09 - 1/18/09

[Blonde]

Morning Johan!

Edward...Two Luis Mansurs - The son and the brother. No three, another around Joran's age!

Sorry, no notes, again, but there is a lot of info on the internet on the Mansur family relationships. Will tell you whom is related to whom and how.

I did find the picture of the young one last night.. But without a doubt Luis Mansur is the brother of Jossy Mansur and he must have a son >jr
 The judge in the court case was very clear on who he is and what he has done in his past..
He is not a nice guy and people fear him. That is the kind of person you are looking for..

A family picture

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hi, None.....my comment last night was intended as humor....your sig line made me do it.   

To clarify....sig line then, not currently. 

[Blonde]

I contend that CAPS is deception personified.

Also ... logic dictates that in January, 2008 ... almost three years into the investigation ... somebody who is going to be revered as in the know should be aware of the role that Jug Twitty played in the life of Natalee Holloway.

It appears that Dave Holloway's friends (according to Robin) ... Reality and/or Mark Purcell (MIP6) ... may be directly involved or ... lurking somewhere behind the scenes pulling some strings.  Take note that CAPS addresses Julia Renfro ... a friend of Mark Purcell ... a friend that is thisclose.

IMO

Janet
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JANUARY, 2008

CapsLockWizard
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #715 1/25 -
« Reply #384 on: January 27, 2008, 02:51:39 PM »

need to know 2 things

Did Natalee travel somewhere before he come to Aruba

and

and the parents tree   Natalee is the doughter of  -----  and --------- etc.

I know that probably Dave Holloway has notting to do with this Case but the Twitty

Wat is twitty to natalee?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2539.msg332978;topicseen#msg332978


APRIL 1, 2008

CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #609 on: April 01, 2008, 03:15:49 AM »

my first question this morning around 9:30 was:

Why would beth lie about her being a virgin and who run with the story was fox news. where did they got the news from? I will answer Julia.

Why why would I lhype up something that was not true and now i need some one to run with it. that can colorabrorate and sustain my lie. My friend. who walk with me. both know it is not the true and that makes it like we say in Logic world,  NOT = NOT and that makes it a logic sense.

it can not be OR and can not be AND OR logic. do not compute.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg369749#msg369749

And wasn't Mark Purcell the former director of the Mariott?  Working with ROB SMITH?

Jen read here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.0

[jen3560]

LOL Blonde!

I just couldn't remember his exact position with the Mariott.

I see you are catching up on the thread - could you try to get those cage pictures off of Silvetti's site?

[Blonde]

Here is just one example of what Dave's (via Robin Holloway) good pal Mark Purcell has to say about him.  Posted by Mark Purcell aka Doc Holladay aka MIP6 at RU:

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:43 am

Are the pages from Dave’s work of fiction soft when you wipe with them?
------------

Dave Holloway (hopefully unwittingly) to Mark Purcell, to Rob Smith

Dave Holloway to John Silvetti to Rob Smith

Capslockwizard...............Julia Renfro...............Mark Purcell............Rob Smith...........John Silvetti

Can someone say circle jerk?

Can someone say circle jerk?

I posted the same thing on that site a while back about Dave not sharing in the funds raised after someone else posted that Dave had set up a trust for his use and I wondered why the home page had that information on it as is was misleading, all the BHT followers blew it off as no big deal.
I felt it was/is a big deal as it leads one to believe that all the Twitty / Holloway efforts would benefit from your generous donation to the Amsouth trust. More spinning and deception.

10-20-2005, 03:01 PM
MIP6
New Member Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 16

[Blonde]

LOL Blonde!

I just couldn't remember his exact position with the Mariott.

I see you are catching up on the thread - could you try to get those cage pictures off of Silvetti's site?

Jen I made a whole thread on it here, http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4145.0

[2NJSons_Mom]

I just captured 3 of those cage pics.  I'm just slow with skills that need brushing up a bit, and this computer is a clunker.  If Blonde or someone gets them here first, I'm used to that!   

[jen3560]

LOL Blonde!

I just couldn't remember his exact position with the Mariott.

I see you are catching up on the thread - could you try to get those cage pictures off of Silvetti's site?

Jen I made a whole thread on it here, http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4145.0

I don't see those particular pics on your thread though?

The ones of the cage sitting in the boat?

[Anna]

I think the test trap photos are interesting.  These are from Silvetti's site, not Kyle's blog, correct?

There are some in Blond's thread that are not on that site and some on that site we don't have copies of but would be hard to know which ones are missing.

Some of crew not seen before.  I wonder if that matters as maybe is a cook or something unrelated to any searches.

[crazybabyborg]

Hi Monkeys!! Peeking in from work, but wanted to say hello and shout out to Blonde that I hope she's feeling better!!!

[2NJSons_Mom]

http://www.silvettigroup.com/Arubapix/index.html

[jen3560]

Thanks 2NJ!  Great job!!

[2NJSons_Mom]

I think the test trap photos are interesting.  These are from Silvetti's site, not Kyle's blog, correct?

There are some in Blond's thread that are not on that site and some on that site we don't have copies of but would be hard to know which ones are missing.

Some of crew not seen before.  I wonder if that matters as maybe is a cook or something unrelated to any searches.

Yes, they are from The Silvetti Group Site.  I had forgotten that Blonde posted some of these pics, and there are many so it would be cumbersome to copy all.

I, too, saw many different faces.  I was thinking that the crew may have changed a couple of times, depending on their jobs, as you've mentioned. 

[klaasend]

I just went back and revisited the pictures on Silvetti's Company's site from the search for Natalee.  There are 3 photos of a cage that appears to be on the deck of the Persistence while docked....similar in shape/size to the one in the ROV pics.  This one clean looking and in one of the shots, Kyle and Tim T. are looking at it. 

I was not able to capture them to bring here, but they are about midway in that large group of pics. 

Was there talk of a cage facsimile that I do not recall that they used for comparison during the search? 

http://www.silvettigroup.com/Arubapix/index.html

KYLE

[2NJSons_Mom]

Thanks 2NJ!  Great job!!

They need to be resized.  I don't want to make them too big. 

I'll be back in a bit....have to feed the dog and let her out. 

[Kermit]

Photos from: http://www.silvettigroup.com/Arubapix

[2NJSons_Mom]

   Thanks, Klaas.

[Kermit]

Photos from: http://www.silvettigroup.com/Arubapix

[jen3560]

Thanks everyone!

So if that cage was fashioned after the one from the huts - that would make it, what? 5' 1/2 x 4' x 17"?

And the one found was approx 7' x ? x 24"

3/8 rebar wrapped in chicken wire.

Who was it was telling us it would take a hoist to pick up the cage found? 

I don't think so!

 

[Kermit]

I contend that CAPS is deception personified.

Also ... logic dictates that in January, 2008 ... almost three years into the investigation ... somebody who is going to be revered as in the know should be aware of the role that Jug Twitty played in the life of Natalee Holloway.

It appears that Dave Holloway's friends (according to Robin) ... Reality and/or Mark Purcell (MIP6) ... may be directly involved or ... lurking somewhere behind the scenes pulling some strings.  Take note that CAPS addresses Julia Renfro ... a friend of Mark Purcell ... a friend that is thisclose.

IMO

Janet
______

JANUARY, 2008

CapsLockWizard
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #715 1/25 -
« Reply #384 on: January 27, 2008, 02:51:39 PM »

need to know 2 things

Did Natalee travel somewhere before he come to Aruba

and

and the parents tree   Natalee is the doughter of  -----  and --------- etc.

I know that probably Dave Holloway has notting to do with this Case but the Twitty

Wat is twitty to natalee?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2539.msg332978;topicseen#msg332978


APRIL 1, 2008

CapsLockWizard
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #609 on: April 01, 2008, 03:15:49 AM »

my first question this morning around 9:30 was:

Why would beth lie about her being a virgin and who run with the story was fox news. where did they got the news from? I will answer Julia.

Why why would I lhype up something that was not true and now i need some one to run with it. that can colorabrorate and sustain my lie. My friend. who walk with me. both know it is not the true and that makes it like we say in Logic world,  NOT = NOT and that makes it a logic sense.

it can not be OR and can not be AND OR logic. do not compute.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.msg369749#msg369749

And wasn't Mark Purcell the former director of the Mariott?  Working with ROB SMITH?

General Manager of Aruba Marriott Resort & Casino Richard Zeolla.

Richard Zeolla was the General Manager at Bucharest before coming to Aruba:

says Mark Purcell, the hotel's director of facilities.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NAH/is_6_34/ai_n6181246/pg_4

MIP6 = Mark Purcell
I have been posting over at the Kool-Aid campsite for about month now <snip>
I had this Ringo character spinning after I went to the so-called Lions Den; I had been to this bar before and posted up what I found, nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


* Richard Zeoller is also on the AHATA board as treasurer

* Mark Purcell's wife, Marlene Purcell along with Antonio Carlos are involved in the AHATAboard as well.


Rob Smith was the General Manager of the  Wyndham Aruba Hotel & Casablanca Casino is the chairman of the AH&SF board