Caylee Marie Anthony #90 1/12/09 - 1/14/09

[Kat_Gram]

Before Caylee was found, the Ants were probably trying to find another phantom person to blame it on.  The lady told Dom to drive to the abandoned house. If the place is kept up and furniture is there and all the rest of it, what made it abandoned ? How did Dom know which house it was ? How did Joy know that name ?
With the Ants having that website or two, ppl contacting them, maybe that's what they were up to .. investigating other possible suspects and developing information for Baez to use in court. ie LE not following other leads as they LE and Yuri deciding who did it in the first few days.
Aren't you glad the meter reader found the remains ? Rather than Dom Casey ?
Or that the remains were found ?
This tape of Dom Casey's would have been a good one for Baez IF she had not been found. LE wasn't responding to any tips in mid November. Or chasing their tails trying to find other suspects or possibilities.
It got us all going and wondering, it would have done the same thing to a jury.
...
Where did the PAVER thing come from ? Why were ppl thinking that the pavers were a marker ? Another " tip " ??

[pharlap]

thanks boo, noone ever makes me feel invisible here, its my own self paranoia that I have.  lets say a shy monkey coming out her shell, and the best thing about this group, is I have made friends in here, and getting over my shyness.  I have a lot of insights to add, I know i miss heaps on the case, you all talk so much, and adding updates, and I miss a lot.  I just hope some things I can add too.  I have some knowledge on decomp, only last year I left my job as a mortuary worker.  I wanted to get into embalming, but I suffer from chemical sensitivities.  All my job entailed, was pick up the deceased from their point of death, and take them to the funeral home (morgue)  some times, my job entailed picking up body pieces from car accidents, sometimes, that involved searching in tree tops for body pieces, they flew that high from impact.  Pick up a head in a paddock, all part of my job.  And, as much as every body thinks, a mortuary worker is the one left to deal with the body , and pieces, unless its a crime scene, but then, we still sat around for hours waiting for the Ds to give us the all clear to take the body to the coroner.  Usually tho, accidental deaths, car wrecks, kids drowning, the elderly, was my job.  I just picked up the body, and take it to the funeral home.  In USA you call the morgue.  I am not doing this work any more.  However, I havent been too well, but my ambition is to get right back into it, and even more so, is become a profiler.  Thats my dream.  I tell you, I can sit face to face with anyone, and read them like a book. 

Lucinda - that sounds like a job that you would be well suited for, profiler.   

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

Scary but very interesting profession.......
Do you think casey did this on purpose?
I do, but would like your input on this.

[JuJu]

Im gonna say one thing.  All our posts in here by the thousands, that I cant keep up with, I did see sleuthing monkeys, and im proud of those involved.  Has nancy mentioned monkey sleuthing on her show yet?
Also, I want to thank all my monkeys who report the media shows I cant see in Australia.
Now, Im gonna say, the defense is all piss and wind, we cant get our monkey nickers in a twist.  From all i read, its laughable the defense attempts.  Wait till the trial yall, you need a break from this current crap, cos thats all it is, nonsense crap. 
Have a breather, at least a break for a few days.  When the court case comes, we will be here 24/7.  And we wont be able to sleep.  trust me, rest up now as much as you can. 

what is this?

[SunnyinTX]

Good morning Monkeys..

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted...

Hi Tate!  Yep...they have so much more than we are aware of.....I too have faith in the LE and the case against her!!  All this other stuff is a smoke screen .......BJ better start thinking about his next career

[Dolce]

Niters Lucinda!

[flamom]

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone in jail?

I don't know. I wouldn't think so but who knows. People in jail figure out way's to get all kinds of things. It is possible that JB let her use his phone during one of their meetings since their conversations are private.

KitKat, That's it!!! That is why the Scamthonys haven't visited!! They talk to her when JB goes to the jail... 

[klaasend]

Russ - thanks, I created that map 

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

[Tater]

Hi Dearheart!!I hope you and the twins are doing so well... That is a good idea Dolce! A pick me up reminder for sure.Ya know what?If Le had said something vague like *good*,*enough*,or *plenty*,I'd be more concerned then I am.As soon as I read the word *overwhelming*,I was immediatly at rest about all that is coming down the pike for Casey.We can listen and hear all sorts of things on a daily basis that causes us angst but when the end comes,I just know it is us that will be overwhelmed at the evidence they have against her.We all must remember that we are not insiders and privy to all the information.Casey will be convicted and I am 100 percent sure of it.Like I said,keep the faith and know that when doubt rises up against you,the devil is a LIAR..Hugs to you and the babies...

Love my Taterkinz!! 

And I most certainly love you too!!!!

[Iron Cowgirl]

I must admit that it was me who brought the German Gonzales name over here.  It came from the Joys Angels chat site.  I was very carefull to post warning to take the info for what it is worth.

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up.  Because I started on this forum later than most of you monkeys, I am not really familiar with Joy Wray.  I do, however, totally get it that not many people think very highly of her.  LOL  But I am curious, still.  Doesn't Joy claim to be involved in the case?  Something like a husband that is a PI?  Could it be that she was privy to a defense move to find someone to hang their reasonable doubt on, ie. Hernan "Nanny" Gonzalez and she just heard the name wrong?  Or maybe his name actually did come up during a meter reader discussion and he's this mysterious 3rd reader that LP speaks of. (Wild speculation, obviously with that last one!)

If Joy overheard the information, I could see pretty easily where a "Hernan Gonzalez" was confused with a "German Gonzales" or a "Herman Gonzalez." 

But too, could she have been privy to actual information regarding the case, not just a defense tactic?  Like I said above, I get that people don't hold her in high regard, but I think the info is still worth investigating/thinking about at the very least.

Hernan Gonzalez.  Her Nan Gonzalez. Her Nanny Gonzalez.   

Oooohhhh!  Good one!  I like that!

Me too!

I wonder tho, if the defense tried to use this as reasonable doubt, might it not backfire on them?  It seems like it would be proving one more of Casey's lies.  Just like in the Usual Suspects...  I feel like we're all sitting around looking at that bulletin board in the cop's office and thinking "OMG."

[no rose colored glasses]

Here is an interesting article on Cindy and Lois, another side show of freaks. Very interesting read complete with screenshots of emails between the two of them.. of course Murt is involved
http://beaconhell.com/blog/

thanks for the link....cin-cin and lois are 2 of a kind...they deserve each other....what I can't undersand is why Dakota has not been taken away from this woman....time and time she has exploited her granddaughter and used her ............SICK. And Murt...ohmygawd....SCARY

What I would like to know is Lois and Joy do they not have some kind of life, Joy sucking up to Cindy, and Lois fighting with Cindy, and both of them have kids to take care of.

Rose, it seems to fill some sort of a strange void in their simple lives. I personally think these women should focus on some sort of public service or volunteer work and make a real difference instead of inserting themselves where they dont belong.. 

There is something wrong with Joy mentally, and what really gets me mad is that I'm sure Cindy, because Joy looks to be very easy to manipulate, has used Joy to help with all the dirty work. Joy could be in a lot of trouble, and does not even realize, because she thinks she is helping the family.

[SunnyinTX]

Its Ok, sorry for that.  im never ignored in here.  I am just feeling down.  You all rock, I did not expect an answer, maybe I did, my husband does not want me to go back to the funeral parlour to work anymore.  Its a sore issue here, so maybe I just wanted you all to say wow what a grat job you are doing, I dunno.  We are so broke, and cleaning motels kills me physically, I cant do it nay more. 

I couldn't do the funeral parlor work...but have great respect for those who can. Many years ago my husband lost his job and I cleaned houses...eeekkkk...I think  could take the motel cleaning before some of those bitchyass women who expect me to be a slave.

Also I love your sig about Johnny Cash...he and June were amazing, down to earth people who gave so much of themselves. I knew both of them and they made me a better person just knowing them.

[JuJu]

gonna try and clean this up a bit...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          HI YOU GUYS THIS IS MY VERY 1ST TIME EVER DOING THIS I WAS WANTING TO SHARE SOMETHING I FOUND LAst night..and i really have no idea where to put it down at so this is the only place i could find so HERE GOES!!!                                                                                                                                                      Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!
That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.  The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.  Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.
“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.”

For more details, pick up the latest issue of The ENQUIRER — on newsstands now!

I missed this.....this is IMO a planted story...by the defense....

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.
“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

The above is all BS....I swear they are going to try to use the post partum or something along those lines as a defense....BS

yep, working on an insanity defense

[klaasend]

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.



can she have a cell phone in jail?

No

[TxLady2]

Just trying to figure this out in my little monkey head. How does the video that Hoover & Casey made, create reasonable doubt that KC killed Caylee? Why do I feel stupid because I don't get it?? They could have video taped in any woods in any state and said: "see she wasn't there, she may still be alive". Same with the house, how does searching that abandoned home give reasonable doubt?? Why don't I understand this part. Same with the Kronk thing that I wrote a long reply about on the previous page. How does he being there back in Aug & the officer not looking in the bag (because he didn't want to get wet), how is that good for the defense??? Did anyone read that post I wrote yet?? It was actually a reply to this post by Today:

Deputy Who Checked On Caylee Tip ID'd

Meter Reader: Deputy 'Kind Of Rude'

POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
UPDATED: 7:54 am EST January 14, 2009

Anymonkeys???

I agree with you, I've asked the same thing. And believe me... the TH's on NG and other shows are NOT helping the prosecution by continually saying that DC was "just feet away from the body." If he was that close, he would have found it, doncha think?
Personally, I don't believe it was the same bag that Kronk saw in Aug. But LP said he was also out there later on as well. What kept him going back to that location? And if there were numerous other bags with trash, then did he poke around in all of them? Or did he just luck out to find the exact one the remains were in?
This is just odd to me... I don't think Kronk is involved with it to the extent that he moved the body to that location or anything... but I want to know the details of WHY he was in that particular spot.
As for the video... I don't think it will help the defense that much, but I sure don't think it proves that the A's KNEW where Caylee's body was... unless parts of that video show him actually opening the bag that the remains were in. And if that were the case, then he would be in trouble for not reporting this to LE immediately.

[Lucinda]

thanks klass, thanks everyone.  I love you all, and you all have made me feel so welcome.  Just fighting with my hubby over work, he cant stand me doing mortuary work, he would rather see me busting my guts cleaning motels, he does not understand my passion. Let alone encourage me.  Goodnight, sorry for my outburst. 

My mother is a funeral director, my sister has also worked at a funeral home, and my sister's husband not only works at the funeral home, but he also picks up bodies.. and on the side, he and my sister have their own business doing "bio clean" stuff, including crime scene clean-ups.  They get the dirtiest looks from people when they talk about this kind of work (especially about the business). People actually have called them morbid and think they get off on doing this kind of work.   

It takes a special kind of person to be in this line of work.

thank you so much anothermonkey
you know what im talking about.  Someone has to do it, doesnt make you a morticia adams    Like my hubby thinks of me.  It repulses him so much, also, he hates anything I persue an interest in, re murder cases.  He is a good man, but just does not understand my passions with murder, victims of crime and my obsessive compulsive attitude towards justice for caylee.  Good night, Im really going now, you all cheered me up heaps. 

[no rose colored glasses]

Casey could have been going down that dirt road, and then sneaking into the backyard of the abandoned house. There is so much junk back there, how would even notice. There is more to this house, that we don't know yet.

[Iron Cowgirl]

Russ - thanks, I created that map 

You did good work because it is much better with Zillow and parcels than the google map.  Can you expand that to include the other Gonzalez home too then?  You are the best at these maps.  Did you do the video version of pings too?

Yes, I can do the Zillow on the abandoned home..give me a few.  Yes, I did the video version of the pings from KCJackies maps, there is an option to download the 3d map.  I did that and then uploaded to youtube.

It could more inconspicuously be walked to from the Anthony's...  Isn't Casey seen out jogging and such?  It wouldn't be unusual to see someone jogging around the grassy areas, as it is better than jogging on asphalt or concrete.  She could slip in the back, more than likely and the neighbors may have never known.

[Tater]

Good morning Monkeys..

Let's not forget that LE has* overwhelming evidence* against Casey.Don't lose faith,Casey will be convicted...

Hi Tate!  Yep...they have so much more than we are aware of.....I too have faith in the LE and the case against her!!  All this other stuff is a smoke screen .......BJ better start thinking about his next career

Hi Sunny!!!!!! It's always good to see you! Yep, smoke screen for sure..LE has continually remained focused and I am so grateful and truly believe they are sitting on ready to start the trial and prove they are not the bumbling idiot's they have been portrayed as by the otherside.. We should have a huge Monkey Fest here on the board immediatly after the sentencing..Can anyone say Party?

[SunnyinTX]

I missed this.....this is IMO a planted story...by the defense....

She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.

“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.
“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.

The above is all BS....I swear they are going to try to use the post partum or something along those lines as a defense....BS

It does sound like...  she can shout like this and make people *think* she's crazy, but it's all a very crafted ploy by her and her lawyers to use to her benefit in court.

When I was younger, and had to walk from my friend's house to my own house (at night, just down the very dark street), I would start talking to myself .. I'd say crazy things. I was hoping that any freaks lurking around would want to keep clear of me because I was nuts.      

ahahahaha...now that's funny!! 

[CasuallyCool]

Well spank my monkey, has it ever been reported who the cop was that showed up at the site wehre the meter reader discovered Caylee?