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« Reply #820 on: January 13, 2009, 05:39:58 PM »

Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs



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« Reply #821 on: January 13, 2009, 05:40:16 PM »

My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
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The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
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Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.
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« Reply #822 on: January 13, 2009, 05:42:12 PM »

I just can't figure out why anyone connected with the Ants would have given LP any inside information after November 15th or 16th??? He was a really sore spot with the Ants and if Hoover and DC were working for and/or helping the Ants, why would Hoover have told LP, of all people about the tape?  I really have to wonder if LP was in on this little "search" of theirs.  Remember the conversation he had with TM about how much money a picture showing retrieving the remains would be worth???

If LP had the remains, he'd have come up from the river and gotten that photo op.
I really doubt he was working with Hoover or DC, although he might have been watching them.

I think if he'd known where the remains were, he would not have kept it a secret. And that convo with TM bothers me more and more the more I go over it. He doesn't say, "we'll find Caylee together," he talks as if she's already been found, and as if the main disagreement is how to present the remains. TM says she's unfindable, but he talks as if coming up from the river with Caylee's skull in his hands was an actual possibility.  How could that be, unless someone already had the remains?

And if that someone were LP, then why didn't he do his little photo op? It really bugs me that both LP and TM talk as if TM refused to do a "money shot" for the cameras, when they didn't even have the body, so how could the shot even have been an option? Did someone already have the skull? Is that the deal? Was the skull in someone's possession already?

Looks to me like they're searching the wrong side of the street. But what if they weren't? What if the remains really weren't there, in November? Does that mean that someone had them, and then re-planted them? Would that harm the investigation a great deal?


interesting that the SCULL was what fell out...supposedly... just the SCULL fell out...
so actually... who ever FOUND it ... could have HELD the tiny scull up and gotten the BIG SHOT ....

sick..

so how would they KNOW that they COULD hold up the tiny scull... i mean.. how would they KNOW that the scull wouldnt be right with the rest of the skeleton... and WAS IT? i hear differering things... skull fell out of BLACK bag (which D.CASEY WAS poking around in black bags) .... meterreaderdude says it was WHITE bag that caught his eye? ... ive heard the skeleton was scattered bones...???

who knows... all i know is that this ALL stinks... and i dont trust ANYone...

sorry..

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« Reply #823 on: January 13, 2009, 05:42:15 PM »

Monkeys join this site primarily for One reason and that is
To Join others in Compassion, Sanctity and Value of Human Life
This why I joined SM.
You know that I can not mention Caylee to any one of my Friends at all - except BOO cuz I met her here.

Everyone that I speak to or try to attempt Conversation about Caylee they all have the same response - OH that little girl from Florida ... I don't want to talk about it or why do you want to be involved in all of that ? As if she were to be just dismissed as News Media Hype and or never to be a REAL as a child and or they just don't CARE.

And all the Efforts that come from Each and Every Monkey whether they contribute in the Cages or are daily,weekly readers *lurkers .. it just proves Morals, Values, Honor still exists today.
It's just desponding that NOT ONE ANT has ever Showed Caylee one ounce of CARE, Concern within physical action .. or Emotions ..and you can come here at hour and find true People with intent to bring Caylee to peace.

Yet, Every ANT has a team of Atty's - and want to be " Protected"
And for Team Bastards Baez to disclose that Casey is hurting and is Caylee's Mom is all BS and we know it. And that He and his Experts are going to try to get the Sympathy Plea going for Casey perfect Mommy ... that she is a Pretty Girl and needs to be protected and all that Blah yah hah  and all the Crap about the people sending Money to Casey's Commissary ... is BS too. The Video of Caylee that Nut posted I wish that they would put a flat screen behind glass in Casey's Cell and play it over and over 24 hours a day ...so she can stare at Her Daughter every minute of her waking, napping, cheeto eating life.

Since all of this - I will never use the word Absolutely, I will grimace at Every Shamrock and I never want to see endless pictures of the Pout Lip faces ...or the Fingers twanged ... Just shows Casey's immaturity having numerous photos of her Daughter with the Same face over and over and over  - Striving for attention of Men making Pout lip faces.  Why would one do that IN every photo with your baby girl. That is just wrong.
Those photo's have no feeling within them. They are strictly posed for one reason - Attention. They offer no Beauty or Identity as a Mother and Daughter. That's what Casey is a Attention monger and She has the Entire world looking at her Now -
Caylee paid for Casey's lack of Identity.

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« Reply #824 on: January 13, 2009, 05:42:26 PM »

Lucky, Casey is the closest thing to an emotionless cold fish that I have ever seen.  So you may be right that she felt not one ounce of remorse or guilt over Caylee. 

The posts about the various plants growing around and even through the remains were gruesome but also interesting.  It is not as if Lee or a PI could have gone to that site strolled into the woods and just picked up the bag and walked away.  It was very very full of all kinds of undergrowth, brush, sawgrass, whatever as well as mud, snakes, debris, etc.  It is very possible that vines, limbes, little new bushes, etc. had tangled the skeletal remains all up.  It probably took knives and others things to get the bag and its total contents out of there. 

Also, the skeleton was scattered, and it would have been impossible for Lee or anyone else to pick up everything from the bag and sheet and all the remains.  But they may have tried to do it.  If they really wanted to help Casey, they could have taken the bag and whatever remains they could get and thrown it somewhere else and then had someone find it and claim that Zanny threw it there.


Good posts!

I've only seen KC cry a few times - when she learned she wasn't getting out of jail - and when Baez talked about her being "somebody's little girl".    She cried in front of C&G in jail - but that was when they were addressing her like she was still a little girl, imo.   She only cries for herself. 

I also believe that she wanted C&G gone - so she could inherit the house.


Sassy,I think she wanted her parents gone too.
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« Reply #825 on: January 13, 2009, 05:42:31 PM »

Gee, you guys are putting me on the spot, now !  Pegster, you may be right about her still thinking of the Puerto Rico trip.

As to what she meant by, "It's not my fault" which she screamed at her mom.  I think she meant, "It's not my fault I'm in jail.  It's your fault.  You called the cops."  That is true of course, since Cindy got the ball rolling by dialling 911.  Cindy replies that it IS Casey's fault for lying, but I doubt Casey takes that to heart.

Now, to the computer searches for ways to use household weapons, strangulation or whatever Casey looked up, I think there is a good chance she was toying with the idea of doing away with her parents -- one or both of them -- and that is why she did those searches.  Maybe she intended to knock them out with chloroform and then kill them. 

It is a lot harder to kill a grown up than to kill a little girl.  And Casey had told Amy she would be getting the house and they could live together. That was in her mind, having the house and living there without her parents, especially her mother, breathing down her neck.  But I am no psychologist or detective, so don't give me too much credit.  I could be wrong.

 


Just had to log in and tell you how great I think that your post(s) are.  You have such a great insight and look forward to your logic & reasonings.   I also think that Casey was planning on killing more than just Caylee.  IMO
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« Reply #826 on: January 13, 2009, 05:42:37 PM »

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys



I don't think the Ants owe the general public access to Caylee's gravesite. If their religion says it's okay to have a cremation then that's their right. 

People can and do offer their love and peace without having to have a gravesite.
A lot of crematoriums and cemeteries have beautiful niches where cremated remains can be stored.



I'm sure each state has their own laws regarding burial....but when my parents passed away it was their wish to be cremated.  Their ashes were put in an urn and the urn was burried in our local cemetery and a regular marker placed there.  Our cemetery allows two urns in each plot...it's a very effective way to save space in our local cemetery.
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« Reply #827 on: January 13, 2009, 05:42:55 PM »

Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


Thanks for the link Scatty.

That's interesting.     Can't wait to see if they can back up her claim with the cell phone records.
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« Reply #828 on: January 13, 2009, 05:44:05 PM »

found this at the link listed below:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/26/ng.01.html

re: casey interrogation tapes

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And according to your statement back on August 9 -- I`m sorry -- back on June 9, 2008, you took Casey (SIC) to a baby-sitter`s house.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.

the june 9th again....
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« Reply #829 on: January 13, 2009, 05:48:35 PM »

My Dad was cremated, his wishes. There was a large service after the cremation. He was placed in a large very nice Limoges urn. The urn is buried in a cemetary with a headstone. They constructed a box in the earth for the urn.  My Mum is there too,also cremated. That was what they wanted.
My Dad was a baptised Catholic and this was unheard of, but it was their wishes.
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The ANTS do have to think about the ghouls out there. Whatever they do, there will be people who will disrespect Caylee's remains. Just like she is being disrespected right now. She's in a box while some legal wrangling over money, immunity and Casey's defense happens. Pictures of her remains are going to go to the highest bidder. Her funeral service rights will go to the highest bidder. Quite unbelievable. And the ANTS wish to have some privacy and respect from the media and the public because they are grieving.  They are NEGOTIATING how much, not grieving. 
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Hi there, dragging myself back into the cage when I'm way behind.  What do you mean about unheard of?  I'm not a Catholic but am not far off.

Hi blurry!   

I also think they are negotiating, Kat-Gram.
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« Reply #830 on: January 13, 2009, 05:54:49 PM »

Hey Blurrymonkey.  I see you.
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« Reply #831 on: January 13, 2009, 05:55:05 PM »

Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs

I Googled this woman and nothing, so just how did the Anthony's hear about her.  The Anthony's send her a Teddy Bear but wouldn't give Tim Miller something of Caylee's so a dog could search.  What about all the other psychics that contacted Dominic Casey, did he go follow up on each one? -- Don't think so. 

I hope this woman is lawyered up, because IMHO she is going to need one. 

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« Reply #832 on: January 13, 2009, 05:55:58 PM »

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.



The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.

The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.


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Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.

“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”

Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Oh that is disgraceful ...to have her cremated I feel ... I have nothing against people choice's after life ..but I am sorry that is wrong. So now what the Ant's are going to put Caylee on their fireplace mantel ...

Jmo - I think she deserves more than being cremated and put in a Urn as their Trophy - because that's what she has been all along. Forgive me If I insulted anyone with my comments about cremation.

If anything if she were to be placed in a grave and had a proper tombstone - she would have people from here to endless time visiting her and offering her their love and Peace.

I don't know what to think about that ... I am tired sorry Monkeys


I hate to even think about it and I hope it never happens , but I think they should bury Caylee also because, and I hope Im wrong, but you never know, What if they decide to sell some of the ashes or something....Oh My God,   just the thought makes me sick,   but never can tell with the A's...........

Why on earth would anybody buy Caylee's ashes? Photos I could see, because those can be used in books and articles. But ashes?
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« Reply #833 on: January 13, 2009, 05:56:21 PM »

Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html
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« Reply #834 on: January 13, 2009, 05:57:02 PM »

VERY INTERESTING points being made about the 9 to 1 remark, which always sounded weird, since that is a pretty big timespan and other tidbits of truth Casey might have spoken.  I recall in the JonBenet Ramsey case, the ransom note and other writings were examined by a forensic linguist named Andrew Hodge who maintains that people ALWAYS tell the truth, even when they attempt to lie, because their minds cannot stop the truth from bubbling to the surface.  He made a pretty good case for that.  I wish he would examine some of Casey's statements.  He said you have to read between the lines to figure out where the truth is, but that it can be done.  Some of you are doing that with the statements she has made and coming up with some good possibilities.

Here are a few things that occurred to me.  Both Cindy and one of the detectives said that Casey tells some truth in everything she says, no matter how preposterous, often by borrowing from books, tv shows, friends' experiences, etc.  Cindy swore that as much as Casey lied, she always told the truth eventually and some of the truth was hidden in even her worst lies.

  1.  Casey said at first, or led Cindy to believe, that Zenaida took Caylee because she loved her so much.  Therefore, she was not worried about Caylee being hurt, because Zanny loved her and would take good care of her.  Was this an outright lie to excuse her partying and not reporting Caylee as missing?  Or is there some truth in what she is saying?  We know Zanny is not real, so is Casey saying that Caylee is no longer in danger and that she is with someone who loves her...i.e., in Heaven?  Mothers who kill often justify their actions and their lack of remorse by telling themselves that the child is better off or in a better place.  Casey obviously feels no great remorse over what happened, so she must have convinced herself that it was all for the best.

  2.  In her little poem, "Everyone lies.  Everyone dies." Casey offers a big excuse for her actions.  If everybody lies, then the fact that she lies is not such a big deal.  Who can judge her if they all lie too, even her parents and LE.  Likewise, we all die eventually, so the fact that Caylee died is not that big a deal.  She would have died sooner or later.  Death is natural, so what Casey did is not so wrong in her mind.  Everybody dies, so death is something we all have in common.

  3.  I think he post about "On the worst of worst days, remember the words spoken." is a direct reference to Cindy and what Cindy said to her in their big blow up before she took Caylee and left.  I think those words were not spoken by some philosopher or poet but by her own mother.  In a way, she is saying, "When you find out that Caylee is dead or you realize she is gone from you forever, remember the words you spoke to me.  That is why Caylee is dead.  You are the cause, mom.  It is not my fault, it is yours."  Cindy said something, IMO, that not only cut Casey like a knife but made her furious and determined to see that she got even.  It may have been a threat to take custody of Caylee.  It may have been an admission to loving Caylee more.  It may have been a blanket criticism of Casey as a person and a parent.  I really think that is what is meant in that first line.

  4.  A really obvious example of her telling the truth even when lying is the way she says several times in the visits, "I cannot tell you anymore at this time" or "I cannot talk about that," from which Cindy ran with the notion that the whole family was in jeopardy and Casey was protecting not just Caylee but them all from harm.  But Casey was being truthful there.  If she told what happened, she would be admitting to her own guilt and putting herself in danger.  She truly could not say more without implicating herself. 

  5.  Finally, Casey has a pattern of casting herself as either the victim or the hero.  In her stories, she is sometimes abused, as when she says both her dad and Lee had sexually used her, or overwhelmed, as in her story about Zenaida and her sister forcing her to the ground and taking Caylee.  In both cases, the situation was out of her hands and she was the helpless little maiden.  But other times, she is a rock of support.  In her Zanny in the hospital story, she stays with Zanny and comforts her after a bad car wreck.  In another story, she cannot go with Amy because her poor dad has had a "mini-stroke" and she must be with him.  And of course, she was willing to go to jail forever to protect Caylee and her parents from the "people" who were holding Caylee. 

It is really very interesting to figure out how her mind works.  It seems stored with dates, names, incidents, ideas, etc. that she plucks out whenever she needs them.  Since the body was literally in an area that was kind of between the 9 and the 1 in the house numbers, you do have to wonder if she was sending out, knowingly or unknowingly, signals to her parents and Lee about where the body could be found.

If she was doing that, the implication is clear -- find the body and do something to help me.  Put it somewhere else or cover it up better where it is.  I don't think she was signalling them to inform the police that the body was in that location.  It was more "Clean this up for me so I can get out of here, and then we will just forget it ever happened."

WOW, interesting insight

the 9 to 1 comment.  Now that could be 9AM to 1PM....I took it to be the addresses on Hopespring  .... 470(9) ...470(1)  .......
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« Reply #835 on: January 13, 2009, 05:57:59 PM »

Maybe the pavers had some deeper meaning to KC. Maybe they were like grave markers and the number of pavers represented the number of victims she was planning on burying.....ooh what a gruesome thought.
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« Reply #836 on: January 13, 2009, 05:58:44 PM »

Hey Sassy! (IS that you?! You look great!!)
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« Reply #837 on: January 13, 2009, 05:59:19 PM »

Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs



Maybe we oughta believe in psychics.

Interesting that the psychic says she was working through an "intermediary." Also interesting that she says the A family sent her a teddy bear, something of Caylee's so she could get vibes from it (psychometrics) but the A's wouldn't give anything of Caylee's to Tim Miller to help the dogs with Caylee's scent.
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« Reply #838 on: January 13, 2009, 06:00:40 PM »

I will always remember my thoughts on the first couple of nights after KC was first released from jail. CA kept whining about the protestors being a security issue and how she was in fear of them. I kept saying that how could she be afraid of people on the outside when she had KC on the inside, probably plotting to kill her in her sleep.
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« Reply #839 on: January 13, 2009, 06:03:37 PM »

Monkeys, what do you know or think about this so-called psychic lady that has come forward to alibi Dominic Casey's phone call. She says he was talking to her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqWXdPswWbs


http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

Hmm. Thanks Klaas. But I wonder why did DC not say so from the outset, instead of bringing up his sick daughter, Kio Torres tip etc. Something still doesn't sit right. And I do believe that he told Hoover they were going to find the body. Why would he have been so certain on just a psychic's tip? I'm sure there must have been several similar tips.
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