Natalee Case Discussion #794 1/18/09 - 1/23/09

[jen3560]

johan - the person who posted that at fok is a member at RU.

I believe he/she was simply regurgitating what the longtime baloney spreading folks from there have been saying.

The Gottenbos boat was NOT broken, and the only confirmation of it having been moored at the dock between Mariott and HI comes from Hodges.

Either location - trailered at their home, or docked by the high rises - makes no difference in regards to use for this purpose.

ETA:

That post from fok appears to be a compilation of questions from this poster regarding DeVries' evidence/information, with nothing to substantiate the few assertions he/she makes.

[johan555]

johan - the person who posted that at fok is a member at RU.

I believe he/she was simply regurgitating what the longtime baloney spreading folks from there have been saying.

The Gottenbos boat was NOT broken, and the only confirmation of it having been moored at the dock between Mariott and HI comes from Hodges.

Either location - trailered at their home, or docked by the high rises - makes no difference in regards to use for this purpose.

oh you mean pronkjewail  ?
another possibility is that the boat was trailered > near the Racquet Club
i know there is a boat Launch

[jen3560]

johan - the person who posted that at fok is a member at RU.

I believe he/she was simply regurgitating what the longtime baloney spreading folks from there have been saying.

The Gottenbos boat was NOT broken, and the only confirmation of it having been moored at the dock between Mariott and HI comes from Hodges.

Either location - trailered at their home, or docked by the high rises - makes no difference in regards to use for this purpose.

oh you mean pronkjewail  ?
another possibility is that the boat was trailered > near the Racquet Club
i know there is a boat Launch

yes - that is who I mean.

[Keepthefaith]

johan - the person who posted that at fok is a member at RU.

I believe he/she was simply regurgitating what the longtime baloney spreading folks from there have been saying.

The Gottenbos boat was NOT broken, and the only confirmation of it having been moored at the dock between Mariott and HI comes from Hodges.

Either location - trailered at their home, or docked by the high rises - makes no difference in regards to use for this purpose.

oh you mean pronkjewail  ?
another possibility is that the boat was trailered > near the Racquet Club
i know there is a boat Launch

Me personally Johan.I'm still waiting for a point to what your posting! 

[klaasend]

it was on fok

    Er staat een video op youtube van een meisje in het roze die een tankstation binnenkomt. Deze video is van de dag na de verdwijning. Wat mij betreft kan het haar zijn (ze heeft hetzelfde loopje als op de casino-video), maar aan de andere kant denk ik dat de lengte niet klopt en zie je haar niet hele erg duidelijk. De medewerkster van het casino dacht trouwens wel dat ht Natalee was.

Ik weet niet wat de theorie van Peter R precies is dus ik kan niet zeggen wat niet klopt. Wat ik hoop dat naar voren komt in de uitzending van morgen is het volgende:

1. Welke vriend is met het lijk de zee opgegaan? Noemt hij hier Koen Gottenbos? Zo ja, dan is het duidelijk gelogen; die heeft een waterdicht alibi EN de Gottenbos-boot was kapot en kon niet varen.

2. Wanneer is het lijk de zee in gegooid? Qua tijdlijn die door de politie is vastgesteld met data van computers en telefoons, vraag ik me af of Joran er tijd voor heeft gehad om haar te dumpen. Ervanuitgaande dat Joran mee is gegaan in de boot uiteraard.

3. Hoe heeft Joran contact opgenomen met de vriend? hij heeft alleen Deepak met zijn mobiel gebeld, niemand anders. Zou hij Natalees lijk op het strand achterlaten om vervolgens op zoek te gaan naar een publieke telefoon?

Ik ben heel benieuwd wat er morgen uit de uitzending komt. Ik zie Joran er eigenlijk nog wel voor aan ook dat hij inderdaad heeft gelogen tegen die 'vriend'. Maar aan de andere kant: Natalee is weg en IEMAND moet weten waar ze is, waarom niet Joran?

Wel vreemd trouwens dat Joran niet gearresteerd wordt. Misschien is het bewijs van Peter R toch niet zo onbetwist als hij zelf zegt? Het OM heeft het bewijs al een week in handen en ziet geen reden om er iets mee te doen...

   1. Which friend is the body absorbed the sea? Koen Gottenbos he called here? If so, then it is clearly a lie, which has a watertight alibi and the Gottenbos boat was broken and could not fly.

http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1122166
    

OMG you have to be kidding?  You are believe a member of RU that is spreading Geilin and or Renfro crap?

There is a video on youtube of a girl in pink with a gas station arrives. This video is from the day after the disappearance. As far as I am concerned, it (they have the same walk as the casino-video), but on the other hand, I think the length is wrong and you see her all very clear. The employee of the casino believe that Natalee was ht.

I do not know what the theory of Peter R just so I can not say what is wrong. What I hope that emerges in the broadcast tomorrow, the following:

1. Which friend is the body absorbed the sea? Koen Gottenbos he called here? If so, then it is clearly a lie, which has a watertight alibi and the Gottenbos boat was broken and could not fly.

2. When the corpse was thrown into the sea? In terms of timeline by the police has been established with data from computers and phones, I wonder if there is time for Joran had to dump her. Assuming that Joran went along in the boat of course.

3. How did Joran contact with the boyfriend? he has only Deepak with his cellphone to call, nobody else. Natalees he would be on the beach and then leave to find a public phone?

I am very curious to see what tomorrow is the broadcast. I see there are still Joran to that he has indeed lied to the 'friend'. But on the other hand, Natalee is gone and somebody must know where it is, why Joran?

But strange indeed that Joran is not arrested. Perhaps the evidence of Peter R is not as undeniable as he says? It has provided proof for a week in the hands and sees no reason for something to do ...

[klaasend]

Please note that even Medleyrelay aka Jan Brennan aka Billybob, uses Pronkjewail as a reference in her online book "No evidence of a crime".  We all know how credible Medley is 

http://noevidenceofacrime.com/chapter27.php/2008/11/09/page_2120

[Anna]

The Gottenbos Armada?

Well, the only one of their boats I am concerned with is the one Dave Holloway begged ALE to search and they refused.  The one Sander was in that Sunday and inviting Joran to go out on.

[crazybabyborg]

The Gottenbos Armada?

Well, the only one of their boats I am concerned with is the one Dave Holloway begged ALE to search and they refused.  The one Sander was in that Sunday and inviting Joran to go out on.

The ninny, the pimpo, and the Saints, Help Us All?

[jen3560]

The Gottenbos Armada?

Well, the only one of their boats I am concerned with is the one Dave Holloway begged ALE to search and they refused.  The one Sander was in that Sunday and inviting Joran to go out on.

The ninny, the pimpo, and the Saints, Help Us All?

 

[Artcolley]

Please note that even Medleyrelay aka Jan Brennan aka Billybob, uses Pronkjewail as a reference in her online book "No evidence of a crime".  We all know how credible Medley is 

http://noevidenceofacrime.com/chapter27.php/2008/11/09/page_2120

 

[klaasend]

Johan - so what else have you got?  No offense but so far you are batting zero in proof that the Gottenbos boat was out of commission OR that it was moored at the Holiday Inn. 

[Anna]

Some of us paid attention the first time, lol.

[johan555]

Johan - so what else have you got?  No offense but so far you are batting zero in proof that the Gottenbos boat was out of commission OR that it was moored at the Holiday Inn. 

i can't proof were the boat was that night !  can you ?

[sharon]

The Gottenbos Armada?

Well, the only one of their boats I am concerned with is the one Dave Holloway begged ALE to search and they refused.  The one Sander was in that Sunday and inviting Joran to go out on.

The ninny, the pimpo, and the Saints, Help Us All?

 


(or the 'santeria'  )

[johan555]

Beth said this about that boat :

Beth had indicated that there had been activity with this boat on the night of May 30. The boat is of a size that would be easy to launch at a number of beaches.

[Keepthefaith]

Johan - so what else have you got?  No offense but so far you are batting zero in proof that the Gottenbos boat was out of commission OR that it was moored at the Holiday Inn. 

i can't proof were the boat was that night !  can you ?

Johan is trying to bring out the FROG!

[Keepthefaith]

Me personally.I'm starting to hear that Scrollin,scrollin,scrollin..Who started that Rawhide stuff?

[klaasend]

Johan - so what else have you got?  No offense but so far you are batting zero in proof that the Gottenbos boat was out of commission OR that it was moored at the Holiday Inn. 

i can't proof were the boat was that night !  can you ?

No, but i can prove that Sander issued a statement saying he asked Joran if he wanted to go out in his boat on Sunday May 29, 2005 but Joran said no.  I'm assuming because of this statement that the boat was in working order on May 29th and likely also on May 30th.

[Nut44x4]

iirc the broken koen boat story started at ru, no? Julia or sandrak (in one of her drunkin' stupors) or medley?? I am sure it was a female from ru.

[klaasend]

Beth said this about that boat :

Beth had indicated that there had been activity with this boat on the night of May 30. The boat is of a size that would be easy to launch at a number of beaches.

True: