HAMMER'S POST RE: SIMILARITIES

the big hammer wrote:
Bailey Anne

sb writes: "You have to wonder what the difference is between the "Bailey Ann" incident and Natalee..."

Revisiting the episode and events surrounding Bailey Anne and her friend Alyse is important to case and one of key factors for those who have followed case in detail to understanding modus. Before the crash, there was a thread that sought to detail the similarities and differences between the events: Bailey Anne vs Natalee.

The similarities of the events leading up to the nite of the pix w/ Loco Stefy naked in bed are remarkable to the reported known events of Natalee. And one could further extrapolate these events as happening numerous times before March 2005, and after, as well.

As noted by sb, the differences are important to catalog, as they help to illuminate the entire event:

1. 3 Girls VS 1 Girl: This highlights the potential for sinister forethought as part of plan. The mitigating influence of a group of females significantly changes male group dynamics attached to assault. Natalee was at a severe disadvantage here.

2. The Bait: Stefy VS jvds: The work of Stefy, imo, demonstrates a more practiced approach to events surrounding luring, especially when "wedding modeling" is factored in. Further executed in conjunction w/ Freddie, who has, by nature of criminal charges lodged, done plenty of this type of thing before. And aspects of the luring may have been consensual, though of course this is not known. This changes as jvds turns into the "bait". With male as bait, dynamics again change -- further, and importantly it is highly unlikely that jvds was "bait" in the sense used to describe Stefy. More likely is that for jvds to play bait role, he would have had to deceive: "it's a cab, I'm 19, exchange student, staying at HI, want a lift..."

3. Freddy VS Satish: While both episodes feature 3 males as front players, one of the key differences is the lineup change. As mentioned above, the involvement of Freddy suggests practiced engagement in this type of (criminal) activity. But factoring in Satish in the events surrounding Natalee, puts a younger and unpracticed male in the middle of the action. And that is bad. IMO, a more "experienced perp" may have cancelled event that was planned...and indeed, a reading of the Skeeter transcripts, Deepak's statements made public, suggests that Deepak was "concerned" and he stated at one point that he knew he should have never left jvds alone w/ the girl (or words to that effect). Common sense would tell an experienced perp that secreting away a single female w/ over 100 of her friends nearby could have a bad outcome.

4. Vehicle Rear Seating: The controller of victim sits w/ prize in back seat: Freddie/Stefy w/ Alyse/Bailey VS jvds w/ Natalee. The boys all have a specific and pre-planned role to play and their roles are facilitated by their seating choices. The seating in rear passenger seats is significant -- the controller of victim, also bears some responsibility to male group for outcome, ie, choice of venue, return of victim(s) to place of staying and clean get-away for all. Hence, the Mill Resort as venue for Bailey/Alyse, right next door to Wyndham, where they were staying. But with jvds w/ Natalee, there is set up a potentially bad situation. As we know, an immature sociopath w/ known violent tendencies is "in charge" of a likely incapcitated female who is half his size.

5. Vehicle Front Seating: jvds vs. Satish. This player runs the dvd porn playing in the vehicle, and has another role that is undefined. But imo, this seating choice/assignment is important for nite's planned episode. It suggests, imo, that after drop off (Deepak driving in both episodes), this player "assists" -- possibly as camera operator, participant, facilitator or all of this. And indeed, the picture of loco Stefy had to come from somewhere and had to be taken by someone...and that would be jvds, imo. It is highly likely therefore that Satish was on the scene, and that is part of the reason he has been kept quiet.

There are other "differences" as well in the 2 known episodes. But the chain reaction which led to "something bad happening" is captured in a combination of the known differences highlighted above.