Caylee Marie Anthony #93 1/16/09 - 1/19/09

[dottie]

WELCOME LESLEE!!    WELCOME LESLEE!!  WELCOME LESLEE!!    [/b][/size][/color]

[perriwinkle]

There is a make-shift memorial for Adji set up in Immokalee with well wishes of a safe return home.  I will be going there tomorrow to leave a poster for him.  If you would like me to add your words of well wishes please send me an email of what you would like to say to Adji and/or his family and I am happy to add it nicely to the poster. 
Email is in my profile, so no need to bother Klaas asking for it, its available for anyone who needs to reach me.
TIA

Sorry for O/T.

Are you sure your email is there?  I can't see it.

[trimmonthelake]

Welcome Leslee. 

[Jerseygirl345]

What would be the motive for Casey and Lee to kill Nicole G.?  Casey seems so cold-blooded that it is easy to imagine her doing almost anything, but a brutal murder like that would leave a lot of dna behind, it seems to me.  Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I see Casey as having two main ambitions:  1) to be free of as much responsibility as possible  2) to get money so she could get away from her parents, mainly her mom  and 3) possibly to get even with her mom for things her mom had done to her or things she imagined her mom had done.  I don't know where Nicole would fall in that agenda.  As for Lee, he did not seem to have the problems with his parents that Casey had, and he was not saddled with the responsibility of a child.  Hard to imagine what his motive would be to kill anyone.

Gosh I screwed this up.

Hudsunn, I am behind and don't have my glasses on. Lee didn't seem to have problems that we know with his parents. I do believe that he and Casey hated George, so maybe he was in on the murder of NG, but didn't know about KC's thought of killing her baby. Just a thought. I don't know. Stupid thought I guess I just had.

Lee has issues too. Lee laughting during his police interview it makes me this that it was all about Casey when they were young and now she is caught he just loves it...Until the SinAnthony's have a long talk with him about the 5 fingers beening a family and they must stick together...

[pegster57]

If Lee was reformated the C drive or deleted files LE would be able to determine the time and date when deletion was done.. Maybe they know Lee did this..

Well, they would know that SOMEONE did. Not sure they could prove it was Lee. It could have been anyone at TL's. The most obvious person would be Lee, but I don't know how you'd prove that.

[TURBOTHINK]

Just sort of a drive by post as I have no link. Since the talk about computers. Lee picked up Casey's computer and other things from Tony's.

According to Lee and I do not know where I read this but might have been in Lees first transcript with LE. He said the laptop computer had the blue screen of death.

Could this be the computer that was stolen from ZG office. Maybe Casey was never able to use it. Like if it was locked down, or maybe Lee crashed it deliberately. I wonder if LE was able to access it.
Just some thoughts

Hmmm, interresting thought 

I would think her office computer would have been a desk top. You never know though with her being in PR for them, she may have used a laptop.

[Jerseygirl345]

Good Evening Monkey's and New Monkeys...

[leslee]

May I throw something out here? I think Casey sat at Tonys while he and a friend were playing games on the TV and started deleting stuff. I think she knew that when Amy got back home and checked her bank account the gig would be up, after all Casey made a check out to herself and signed her own name to some of them. She couldn't blame it on someone stealing the checkbook. I think she was planning on getting out of dodge... but Cindy came to soon...that is why she wanted just one more day to produce Caylee so she could flee I think it was her own laptop ( well cindys) also, but it certainly would be interesting if it was the ZFGs whose office was broke into

[dottie]

What would be the motive for Casey and Lee to kill Nicole G.?  Casey seems so cold-blooded that it is easy to imagine her doing almost anything, but a brutal murder like that would leave a lot of dna behind, it seems to me.  Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I see Casey as having two main ambitions:  1) to be free of as much responsibility as possible  2) to get money so she could get away from her parents, mainly her mom  and 3) possibly to get even with her mom for things her mom had done to her or things she imagined her mom had done.  I don't know where Nicole would fall in that agenda.  As for Lee, he did not seem to have the problems with his parents that Casey had, and he was not saddled with the responsibility of a child.  Hard to imagine what his motive would be to kill anyone.

Gosh I screwed this up.

Hudsunn, I am behind and don't have my glasses on. Lee didn't seem to have problems that we know with his parents. I do believe that he and Casey hated George, so maybe he was in on the murder of NG, but didn't know about KC's thought of killing her baby. Just a thought. I don't know. Stupid thought I guess I just had.

Lee has issues too. Lee laughting during his police interview it makes me this that it was all about Casey when they were young and now she is caught he just loves it...Until the SinAnthony's have a long talk with him about the 5 fingers beening a family and they must stick together...

     

[Today]

 leslee

[Sam]

I have had the blue screen of death quite a few times.Like some of you said most of the time it is a simple reboot to fix or sometimes going into dos. Once my power fan went. Once fan replaced everything was still there.

I have also completely lost 3 computers since Natalee Holloway went missing.

I also know you can lock your computer to where no one has access to your files without a password. I would imagine this would be the case of a computer stolen from the university.

Someone stole my cousins laptop from his home but it was his work computer and he said the laptop was useless to who ever stole it because it was so secured. Yes I know there are geeks who can guess passwords.but not everyone is that talented. JMHO
Sam

[Jerseygirl345]

If Lee was reformated the C drive or deleted files LE would be able to determine the time and date when deletion was done.. Maybe they know Lee did this..

Well, they would know that SOMEONE did. Not sure they could prove it was Lee. It could have been anyone at TL's. The most obvious person would be Lee, but I don't know how you'd prove that.

The truth of the matter is that when you delete a file from your computer it's the record of the file you delete and not the actual file. This is how law enforcement agencies and data recovery companies are able to retrieve files that have been deleted. So if you want to retrieve a deleted file form your computer click here and select free download. This software will even let you see the files it can restore before you go ahead with it.

http://fix-this-computer.com/Permanently-Delete-or-Restore-Files/Permanently-Delete-or-Restore-Files.htm

Reformatting a disk does not erase the data on the disk, only the address tables. The good news is that if you accidentally reformat a hard disk, a computer specialist should be able to recover most or all the data that was on the disk.
 

[TxLady2]

Ok, conversation is moving way too fast for me today.
Some speculation...
I suspected Casey is a serial killer a long time ago. I believe she went to Blanchard Park and scoped it out as she let Caylee play on the monkey bars (monkey bars). And she planned to kill Cindy with chloroform in the same manner and blame it on some rapist.
If I read correctly Nicole (edit: no, it was another jogger name) was killed in the area? It could have easily been a trial run. Casey has a dominant walk and body language. Even though she's a woman she walks like she could take down someone in a wrestling match. In the photos of her dancing at Fusion she was the aggressor. I could see he playing with chloroform and it going too far. But she needed to see how much it took to paralyze a woman the size of Cindy.
I think her plan went bad and now this mess is the result. She couldn't get to Cindy because George the cop protected her. Even to go as far as inventorying his gas cans. Then pissing her off that she killed Caylee in a rage.

Oh, dear Lord! First, most serial killers are men, and second, serial killers don't normally target their own families. IF she was the killer of the Nicole lady, and I highly doubt that, then murdering her own daughter would not classify her as a serial killer. Just a murderer who happened to kill twice.

[Sassycat]

WELCOME LESLEE !! 

[Brandi]

May I throw something out here? I think Casey sat at Tonys while he and a friend were playing games on the TV and started deleting stuff. I think she knew that when Amy got back home and checked her bank account the gig would be up, after all Casey made a check out to herself and signed her own name to some of them. She couldn't blame it on someone stealing the checkbook. I think she was planning on getting out of dodge... but Cindy came to soon...that is why she wanted just one more day to produce Caylee so she could flee I think it was her own laptop ( well cindys) also, but it certainly would be interesting if it was the ZFGs whose office was broke into

leslee: Welcome!



I also think that the laptop Casey had at Tony's when she was "brought home" by Cindy was Cindy's laptop. I think if it had been a stolen laptop, we would have heard that already, since LE did take it and run forensics on it.

Klaas:

I took that image you made and mirrored Lee so he is looking in the same general direction as the composite:


They do have a lot of similarities, IMO.

Welcome again, leslee!

[flamom]

Why do I not find it impossible that Casey could be involved in another murder besides Caylees.  If one is capable of committing such an act against ones own daughter why not a total stranger.  I can't help but reference several years ago there was a young couple who together kidnapped, killed and sexually assaulted young women and filmed it.  The first victim was her younger sister (can't remember the couples names offhand).   It has always struck me odd that Casey gave the 6/09/08 date (day before Nicole Ganguzza was killed).  Did she have help? Just thinkin   

I think that was the Homolka case out of Canada. Paul Bernardo (?) and Karla Homolka. She's out of prison now and has a child. And yes, Casey is probably a good match for that type of personality as Karla had no conscience either.

  I didn't know she was out of prison with a child. That is HORRIBLE. Why did she get out? Sorry O/T I know, but I am appalled she is walking the streets.

I am brand new so hello to all  I know its OT but I just reread on this Karla case a few weeks ago. She testified against Paul and other than a few dalliances with gaurd and a lesbian lover had been a model inmate. She was released and had a son ( not sure if she married again or is even with the guy), they live in Antilles which is one of the carribean islands I think. Pretty scary huh? I read the book a while ago she is a monster....killed her little sister ( on accident but still) and raped and tortured several girls with her husband 

Leslie, Welcome!!

[islandmonkey]

There is a make-shift memorial for Adji set up in Immokalee with well wishes of a safe return home.  I will be going there tomorrow to leave a poster for him.  If you would like me to add your words of well wishes please send me an email of what you would like to say to Adji and/or his family and I am happy to add it nicely to the poster. 
Email is in my profile, so no need to bother Klaas asking for it, its available for anyone who needs to reach me.
TIA

Sorry for O/T.

Dolce~OOPS I accidentally left mine in Adji's thread. Please pass along for his poster. IM

[luckycharmsprincess]

Hi Monkeys,

Casey's laptop had this user name as the 'owner' of the computer, "bobby." Does anyone know who "bobby" is? Could this be Zenaida (from the place where Nicole Ganguzza worked) Gonzalez's husband? Robert? Bobby? Not sure if she was married or what her husbands name was. But if this was Cindy's computer as Lee alludes to in his interview with LE, then who is "bobby?"

Lee said two things about the PC that stick out in my mind:

The blue screen of death
That it was his mom's computer and Casey had been using it for a couple of months

C:\Documents and Settings\bobby\Desktop\artwork\misc folder

Does anyone know when the ZG computer was stolen?
Does anyone know if she got it back?

[flamom]

Hi Dolce!! Hope you and the babies are doing great! 

[KCJackie]

Disregard if it's already been posted.  I'm a few pages behind and it took a while to find it.