Caylee Marie Anthony #93 1/16/09 - 1/19/09

[TURBOTHINK]

JSM ask me questions so I got left behind.   

I'm Sorry Trimm, I didn't see your answer. Why do you think the two cases are related?

I'm curious also, esp when I read here yesterday chloroform was involved with Nichole's death.

I have thought from July that somehow the two things were related.  The charger at the car scene, the blackjack KC claimed to have,the chloroform, her counselor position at UFC Counceling center; ZG whose computer was stolen worked in the center's front office and it was the office computer which was stolen; all the "talking KC did about Cindy told her to be careful there; the dates of the NG murder and the date they claimed Caylee went missing, Then we have the fact that NG was not raped as all the other victims in that area.

I am sticking with the story that Casey killed her in preparation for Caylee's demise.  There was a lot of talk after a Gretawire entry about Chloroform being used in that case.

There is a lot to me connected to the two cases. What would be the kicker to me would if Nichole was Cindy's counselor who told her to take Caylee from KC. What I believe might be the tie in if there is one. KC would have to have the front office computer to get rid the information first, then on to NG to get rid of the rest of the info. I do believe it would have taken an accomplice in it though.

I would think LE would of already thought of this though and checked into it.Blanchard Park,Casey saga,etc..jmo

I really hope they have investigated it thoroughly, but it is easy to not connect cases sometimes when you have different divisions and/or detective groups investigating. It is not like Orlando is a small town where everything goes through one central area. In large cities like that, two cases can have small connections and not get connected by the two different investigative teams.

[peanut]

JSM ask me questions so I got left behind.   

I'm Sorry Trimm, I didn't see your answer. Why do you think the two cases are related?

I'm curious also, esp when I read here yesterday chloroform was involved with Nichole's death.

omigosh, i missed reading that!     going back to look for that. 

i remember someone posting that, however i dont believe they gave any reference as to where they saw that.

[guideposts]

I'm a new poster, so I don't know if this has already been discussed. I am trying to locate the date that word of the existence of the PI's video surfaced. I think that the A's attorney first mentioned immunity for G&C on 12/31. Was this not immediately after they heard about the PI's video? Just trying to understand the timeline...

Welcome to the cage Ms Sam and TampaMom!!!!

Wasn't immunity talked about right after Caylee was found?

12/30/08 Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, has hired attorney Thomas Luka.  Lee's lawyer, Thomas Luka, has the same address as Brad Conway. Thomas Luka practices mainly in the area of criminal law. Tom Luka has handled murder and attempted murder trials, DUI offenses, drug charges, burglary, armed robbery, domestic violence charges, and assault and battery cases. As both a prosecutor and public defender Tom Luka has valuable experience that enables him to effectively advocate for his clients.  "It's possible criminal charges could be filed if the state feels that Lee Anthony mislead law enforcement officials or tampered with evidence in any way," Luka said.
While Luka maintains Lee has fully cooperated with authorities, hiring an attorney was the right move because Lee and his parents are also considered witnesses in the case against Casey.
Luka said, so far, the state has not subpoenaed his client to testify. However, if that happens, Luka said he'll make sure Lee gets full immunity from any possible charges he might face.

12/31/08 Lawyer: Caylee Anthony's grandparents need immunity.  The lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony wants his clients to have immunity before they speak with prosecutors again about their daughter, Casey Anthony.  Immunity would ensure the couple could tell investigators everything they know without fear of prosecution, attorney Brad Conway said.  He doesn't think the Anthonys would say something that would land them in legal trouble, but he wants them protected.  The Anthonys did not ask him to request immunity, Conway said. No deal has been made yet, he said.  Investigators are waiting until after Caylee's funeral before they approach the Anthonys again, Conway said.

[Tater]

Good Afternoon Monks...old and NEW!!  I didn't get to see Greta last night. I was pretty sure it would be one sided.....so I don't fret about not seeing it. Anything new there? Would someone give me the highlights?  TIA

I don't know of anything new Sunny but here>>>>

[Wyks]

JSM ask me questions so I got left behind.   

I'm Sorry Trimm, I didn't see your answer. Why do you think the two cases are related?

I'm curious also, esp when I read here yesterday chloroform was involved with Nichole's death.

omigosh, i missed reading that!     going back to look for that. 

i remember someone posting that, however i dont believe they gave any reference as to where they saw that.

oh ok, thanks peanut! 

[darla]

I'm a new poster, so I don't know if this has already been discussed. I am trying to locate the date that word of the existence of the PI's video surfaced. I think that the A's attorney first mentioned immunity for G&C on 12/31. Was this not immediately after they heard about the PI's video? Just trying to understand the timeline...

Welcome to the cage Ms Sam and TampaMom!!!!

Wasn't immunity talked about right after Caylee was found?

12/30/08 Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, has hired attorney Thomas Luka.  Lee's lawyer, Thomas Luka, has the same address as Brad Conway. Thomas Luka practices mainly in the area of criminal law. Tom Luka has handled murder and attempted murder trials, DUI offenses, drug charges, burglary, armed robbery, domestic violence charges, and assault and battery cases. As both a prosecutor and public defender Tom Luka has valuable experience that enables him to effectively advocate for his clients.  "It's possible criminal charges could be filed if the state feels that Lee Anthony mislead law enforcement officials or tampered with evidence in any way," Luka said.
While Luka maintains Lee has fully cooperated with authorities, hiring an attorney was the right move because Lee and his parents are also considered witnesses in the case against Casey.
Luka said, so far, the state has not subpoenaed his client to testify. However, if that happens, Luka said he'll make sure Lee gets full immunity from any possible charges he might face.

12/31/08 Lawyer: Caylee Anthony's grandparents need immunity.  The lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony wants his clients to have immunity before they speak with prosecutors again about their daughter, Casey Anthony.  Immunity would ensure the couple could tell investigators everything they know without fear of prosecution, attorney Brad Conway said.  He doesn't think the Anthonys would say something that would land them in legal trouble, but he wants them protected.  The Anthonys did not ask him to request immunity, Conway said. No deal has been made yet, he said.  Investigators are waiting until after Caylee's funeral before they approach the Anthonys again, Conway said.

Thanks Guidepost!!! I was wrong. So many dates to try and remember...just thought I remembered it to be soon after Caylee was found

[perriwinkle]

Thanks guys.  I have to admit, by accident I did a bad thing.  When told about the accident victim (no I will not go into the name just in case some of you do what I did) I did google her and the image just popped up under "images" on the main google page.  I think I was scared for life. 
One of my biggest fears is my husband getting in a car wreck.  He travels all over Ohio, WV, and TN for work.  This picture is burned into my brain and I can't stop thinking about it. 

BIG TIP:  IF a monkey says don't look....  Really....  DON"T LOOK!  Some things are not to be seen by monkey eyes.

Then after seeing it I couldn't believe poeple got paid to put it out there.  It was awful.  Sorry.  RANT over..... 

I am so hoping that photos of little Caylee never get out.  I for one could not handle seeing them.  I know that now for sure.

Oh and I hope that Casey actually had a good look at Caylee's remains and that the thought of them are permanently in her brain FOREVER.

Ok RANT REALLY OVER 

[Russ]

JSM ask me questions so I got left behind.   

I'm Sorry Trimm, I didn't see your answer. Why do you think the two cases are related?

I'm curious also, esp when I read here yesterday chloroform was involved with Nichole's death.

omigosh, i missed reading that!     going back to look for that. 

i remember someone posting that, however i dont believe they gave any reference as to where they saw that.

I was the one that said that yesterday.  It was on the Gretawire way back and many sites were talking about it.  At least I first saw something there back when Greta covered the story more regularly.  I don't know if it was ever confirmed or if in official releases, but it was about the same time the Chloroform issue leaked out I do believe.  That is when people were trying to figure out who Cindy's councilor was, etc. 

[peanut]

JSM ask me questions so I got left behind.   

I'm Sorry Trimm, I didn't see your answer. Why do you think the two cases are related?

I'm curious also, esp when I read here yesterday chloroform was involved with Nichole's death.

omigosh, i missed reading that!     going back to look for that. 

i remember someone posting that, however i dont believe they gave any reference as to where they saw that.

oh ok, thanks peanut! 

youre welcome 

[SunnyinTX]

Good Afternoon Monks...old and NEW!!  I didn't get to see Greta last night. I was pretty sure it would be one sided.....so I don't fret about not seeing it. Anything new there? Would someone give me the highlights?  TIA

I don't know of anything new Sunny but here>>>>

aawwww Tater you are the best!!! Right back atcha!!

[perriwinkle]

Are we sure NG had Cholorform involved?  I couldn't find that in the news reports on her website.  Was that a rumor or a fact? 

[BooMonkey]

Doggonit.  There you went and left me in the dust, again.     I was way back on rattlesnakes and the PI at the As's home, and poof, you were all gone.  And, BOO, you started the whole mess.  I caught you this time.   

Noooooo! Wasn't me, JSM asked me a question........

[eMBee]

Hey monkeys..... member me? YOu don't have to answer that.... just that my keyboard died on me in november and then busy busy, then... I've had severe bronchitis for 18 frickin days.... ALL YEAR.... poor me but well enuff to ask, where do I find the info on Nicole? first i've heard of her. And boy, that video sure shows a mean Casey! Love to  all monkeys!

[Sassycat]

JSM ask me questions so I got left behind.   

I'm Sorry Trimm, I didn't see your answer. Why do you think the two cases are related?

I'm curious also, esp when I read here yesterday chloroform was involved with Nichole's death.

I have thought from July that somehow the two things were related.  The charger at the car scene, the blackjack KC claimed to have,the chloroform, her counselor position at UFC Counceling center; ZG whose computer was stolen worked in the center's front office and it was the office computer which was stolen; all the "talking KC did about Cindy told her to be careful there; the dates of the NG murder and the date they claimed Caylee went missing, Then we have the fact that NG was not raped as all the other victims in that area.

Wow.  When you list all the clues, it seems really strange.   I wonder if LE has tried to connect the two?

I am sure they have looked into the possibility. According to early released reports, there was DNA at the crime scene, and they should have been able to connect those to someone connected to the Anthonys if that is true. Since there was no rape, I have always been curious as to where they got the DNA unless it was hairs or something.

skin under her fingernails?

Yes, that escaped me. I did not think of that.  This was evidently a brutal type murder as they have released very little about the condition of the body. Of course of NG was sedated with chloroform, it would not take a lot of strength to cut her up or whatever happened.  

After watching the jail video of KC, I can just see her going "postal" and brutally killing someone   (I mean someone in addition to poor Caylee).    You never know.

[TampaMom]

Thanks so much, Guideposts. That is exactly what I was looking for!
That puts the dates of the requests for immunity almost immediately after the video was announced! Hmmm...

[peanut]

Thanks guys.  I have to admit, by accident I did a bad thing.  When told about the accident victim (no I will not go into the name just in case some of you do what I did) I did google her and the image just popped up under "images" on the main google page.  I think I was scared for life. 
One of my biggest fears is my husband getting in a car wreck.  He travels all over Ohio, WV, and TN for work.  This picture is burned into my brain and I can't stop thinking about it. 

BIG TIP:  IF a monkey says don't look....  Really....  DON"T LOOK!  Some things are not to be seen by monkey eyes.

Then after seeing it I couldn't believe poeple got paid to put it out there.  It was awful.  Sorry.  RANT over..... 

I am so hoping that photos of little Caylee never get out.  I for one could not handle seeing them.  I know that now for sure.

Oh and I hope that Casey actually had a good look at Caylee's remains and that the thought of them are permanently in her brain FOREVER.

Ok RANT REALLY OVER 

shake hands with another dope who looked. i will never ever forget that. i wish to god i hadnt looked either. when i think of her family seeing those it makes physically ill. how can people do such things??

[Russ]

Are we sure NG had Cholorform involved?  I couldn't find that in the news reports on her website.  Was that a rumor or a fact? 

Copying and pasting my post above.

I was the one that said that yesterday.  It was on the Gretawire way back and many sites were talking about it.  At least I first saw something there back when Greta covered the story more regularly.  I don't know if it was ever confirmed or if in official releases, but it was about the same time the Chloroform issue leaked out I do believe.  That is when people were trying to figure out who Cindy's councilor was, etc.

[kitkat53]

JSM ask me questions so I got left behind.   

I'm Sorry Trimm, I didn't see your answer. Why do you think the two cases are related?

I'm curious also, esp when I read here yesterday chloroform was involved with Nichole's death.

I have thought from July that somehow the two things were related.  The charger at the car scene, the blackjack KC claimed to have,the chloroform, her counselor position at UFC Counceling center; ZG whose computer was stolen worked in the center's front office and it was the office computer which was stolen; all the "talking KC did about Cindy told her to be careful there; the dates of the NG murder and the date they claimed Caylee went missing, Then we have the fact that NG was not raped as all the other victims in that area.

Wow.  When you list all the clues, it seems really strange.   I wonder if LE has tried to connect the two?

I am sure they have looked into the possibility. According to early released reports, there was DNA at the crime scene, and they should have been able to connect those to someone connected to the Anthonys if that is true. Since there was no rape, I have always been curious as to where they got the DNA unless it was hairs or something.

Maybe they didn't get a match to the DNA in their database. Casey's DNA was probably not on file but it probably is now. I think that convicted felons are required to submit their DNA but even then things happen so still they may not have gotten a match.
BTW I love your avatar. I have a  German Shepherd they are amazing dogs.

[no rose colored glasses]

Hey monkeys..... member me? YOu don't have to answer that.... just that my keyboard died on me in november and then busy busy, then... I've had severe bronchitis for 18 frickin days.... ALL YEAR.... poor me but well enuff to ask, where do I find the info on Nicole? first i've heard of her. And boy, that video sure shows a mean Casey! Love to  all monkeys!

Welcome back. Nicole was murdered in Blanchard Park early June, and some think there is a connection btw the two cases.

[Tater]

Hey monkeys..... member me? YOu don't have to answer that.... just that my keyboard died on me in november and then busy busy, then... I've had severe bronchitis for 18 frickin days.... ALL YEAR.... poor me but well enuff to ask, where do I find the info on Nicole? first i've heard of her. And boy, that video sure shows a mean Casey! Love to  all monkeys!

Try rubbing Vicks vapor rub on your feet and then putting on socks!!Seem's to be helping the sick Monkeys around here with their coughs...I know but hey!It might help you too..Glad to have ya back!