Caylee Marie Anthony #94 1/19/09 - 1/21/09

[MuffyBee]

Would someone  please tell us what's going on on NG? What about the search warrants? What were they looking for?

We will find out when the next doc dump comes this week. Body of the warrant will give reason/info to why or what they were looking for in the house to match items from the crime scene.

oh.  I understood the other post to mean that she already had obtained the warrant and was going to reveal it tonight!  BOMBSHELL---  didn't go off...

Pfffft.  Musta been a dud...

[SunnyinTX]

Why have they not removed this from the margin on the left??

MISSING FROM ORLANDO
Have You Seen Me!
http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/

Because Caylee has the hearts of so many.....so they are still using CAYLEE to get donations.

[perriwinkle]

Ok guys!  Stop makin me post!  I really gotta go!

Perri, get you hiney back here right now! 

I am still not gone, as much as I need to.  But I really am going now.  If my husband comes home and finds me here he will not be happy!  He is gettin' sick of Casey's shenanigans too, but for a different reason!

[Leroy]

i bet KC is just eating it up when JVM says trial of the century! also, it really makes me mad how much money this has cost TES and i hope we find out for sure where the money for KC's defense is coming from! last, could someone please tell whoever we need the docdump asap since i have packers coming Thurs. & i should probably be paying some attention to them!

wendi

I bet so too Wendi!  And it burns me up thinking how this has brought her so much more attention, which she seems to love more than life itself.  Quite literally in fact.   

What is really shocking Casey smiling why her mom is crying, devistated and she must of notice all the weight her mom lost.. Casey smiling like I really hurt you this time how does it feel not realizing Caylee was her child not Cindy's.. Caylee ment nothing to Casey she did love her but used her as a pawn for control and  getting her way...Sick.. 

Yes when Cindy was crying I thought of when I have made my mom sad. (which was a lot), but if she cries I break down. I hate to say it but growing up we would make fun of her for crying. She cries at the drop of a hat. She would cry watching Miss America pagents back in the day. We thought it was funny then, but now I realize my Mom could've had it much better if she hadn't gotten pregnant at 16, had me at 17 and my sister 11 months later.

But unlike KC, my Mom and my Daddy have been there for all of us. That's what parents do. Sorry I am rambling, I just thank God that my mom and dad weren't selfish like KC Anthony.

JSM - are you ok?  I'm worried about you...

I'm fine Leroy. Just chillin tonight. You are a good mate. Thanks for worrying about me. Just say a prayer that my car starts in the morning.  Or better yet, it is insured... oh lets not go there. LE can check my computer! 

You are sweet and better never leave without saying Bye!

[guideposts]

Rereading statements and came across Jamie Relander's that may add to Blink's front page post:

YM: Okay. Is there anything else about Casey Anthony or Caylee Anthony or about  this, I guess the whole incident I haven't asked you about you think might be important or you wanted to share?

JR: Uhm, I really don't know as much as maybe other people would have. And the only times I hung out with her were really at Fusion. I don't really recall actually seeing her out of Fusion. I was suppose to hang out with her one night out of Fusion.

YM: Uh-hum (affirmative)

JR: Which she uhm, not that you bring to my attention, she did call me and say she couldn't hang out. She was with another friend in downtown. She had just
gotten a speeding ticket and that she uhm, she said she was just going to stay in
Orlando if we wanted to drive out there. And...

YM: And the re...the reason she didn't hang out was because she had just gotten a  speeding ticket?

JR: Right. She was in Orlando. She had to run with a friend to Orlando.

YM: Uh-hum (affirmative)

JR: We live out in G...Oviedo.

YM: Uh-hum (affirmative)

JR: And so she was like well, she was going to pick us up. She said, "NO, well we're just going to hang out in Orlando." And then later when I called that night to see what she was doing and uhm, or, no, not that night. The next morning I called her to see how she was and she said that she was uhm, she had just gotten really drunk and I guess she got really sick and that was pretty much it. So that,  that's probably the only time that I actually remember her drinking.

Now, this could just be Casey using a ticket as an excuse because she found something better to do...but Jamie states Casey was with a friend and got a ticket.  Made me think of Blink's post.  When asked by Yuri what is the timeframe this happened, she can't be specific, but thinks its in June.

[Leroy]

Would someone  please tell us what's going on on NG? What about the search warrants? What were they looking for?

We will find out when the next doc dump comes this week. Body of the warrant will give reason/info to why or what they were looking for in the house to match items from the crime scene.

oh.  I understood the other post to mean that she already had obtained the warrant and was going to reveal it tonight!  BOMBSHELL---  didn't go off...

Pfffft.  Musta been a dud...

LMAO   

[SunnyinTX]

I found Casey quite arrogant in the latest released tapes.

We saw the real casey in that tape...

[Foggy Dew]

I was reading here this afternoon and I know that we all have had losses on our lives.
.
I think that is what draws us here. Some off the cuff posts did sound not quite right.
I have done so myself, forgetting about some of the tradgedies in my own family.
We had what I would call a suicide of a cousin. We all saw it coming. Or we saw something bad happening to her. There had been a series of losses for her beginning with her soon to be ex hubby going on a vacation with his soon to be new wife. A divorce and a new beginning. The new beginning turned sour when she over extended herself physically and money wise. She started to go downhill, sleeping alot, ignoring the business. Went on for a couple of years. Denied she was in trouble. Stated taking OTC to sleep, pain meds. She would rally for a while, then relapse. My Dad was getting her the meds. Going and picking them up. I saw the shopping list one day and told him he was just helping her avoid the problem. We all begged her to go somewhere and get help.
I rounded up a mental heath place that was going to make a house call, but she wouldn't answer the door. Everyone did everything they could think of. We did look into a committment order, but her mother didn't think it had gone that far.
One day, she just didn't wake up. She was taken to the hospital in a coma and my Dad made the decision to pull the plug after consulting everyone. By this time, her mum was a basket case and was just concerned about getting her next drink. The cause of death was listed as a toxic level of drugs, not a suicide, just a toxic level that had shut her kidneys down. She was a beautiful person, she was only 39.
We fought in our family and did the coulda woulda shoulda and the blame thing.
It left us all feeling like we failed her, yet we really did everything we could think of, each and almost every one of us. We were never the same afterwards. I could not speak to her mother for years. In fact, I did not speak to her and she passed with me still feeling that SHE could have done something. It still haunts me when someone's name is the same or when I hear family members struggling with the same types of issues in their family.
When I hear people say well, you should do this, or you should have done that, or making a diagnosis on line, well, it brings it all back. We did everything we could and there was no shortage of money, people or resources to help her, but she didn't want the meddling in her life and would not even discuss it.
We did fail, but we did everything we could think of, yet the feeling that we failed this wonderful person lingers. And why wouldn't she listen to us, we only wanted the best for her. 
Sometimes we can do nothing to help the people close to us, no matter how much we want to or love them.
I am sorry for being O/T.
But maybe George and Cindy were in the same place, between that rock and a hard place after Caylee was born and before it came to the awful end.     
 

Kat Gram that was an Awesome Post
But I think your giving the Ant's too much Credit - because I think they actually enjoyed living and leading the life that they created for each other. Jmo -
Still an Awesome Post

I wanted to add to all - that posted in the End of the Last Cage that I recognize that WE have all found " Family Here" at Scared Monkeys and ... We can fall off of Caylee and state things that are really important and needed to be said. Things of our Personal lives are emotionally triggered by this Case, by other Monkeys postings etc ...

I think though for Some Monkeys who cannot express their own personals so openly become painfully afflicted by reading others personal happenings .. Its not expected in the Caylee Cage ..

I feel that if a Monkey/Monkey's wants to Express such personal things that they should go off into another forum and have a group talk and embrace each other. Some people are not strong enough to face things that are of their past and or lives period, and it goes without saying that it can trigger huge emotions ..that otherwise would not have been ... if it were taken out of the room... I am just sharing my thoughts. My deepest respect for those who are willing to share ..but its unexpected to read such things..if your only here for Caylee.. 
I adore you all ... I just had to say my peace too ......... 

Deenie, well said.  I'd only like to add that if someone is gonna go of topic, perhaps they could place that in bold O/T at the outset so folks don't get into the "deep" water so to speak when they can't/don't wanna swim at the moment.   I know a few of the posts made me cry they were so heartrending, but sometimes I have too much on my plate that I can't go "there" certain times of the day. 

Also, the re-posting of the supposed remains of Caylee's remains (and so large) were very difficult for me to take.  I don't need to see pictures like that and would that there is some way to warn readers beforehand.  If someone wants to see them, post a link to the post where they are contained. 

Just mho.  Sorry if I've offended anyone.  And last but not least, I'm so sorry for everyone's heartache and will keep you all in my prayers.  One of the saddest things for me is seeing someone else sad.

Which is why I was stunned to see alleged perp smiling at her mother crying during that visit and asking why "she" was crying already.  I'm not violent either, never smacked an animal or human but man oh man, I wanted to open a can of whoop you-know-what on her.  Grrrrrrr....

[Sea Searcher]

O/T  My Mom has been very sick with pneumonia and had been in the hospital.  They sent her home and she now has the flu on top of pneumonia and is back in the hospital.  Please pray for her.  Thanks.

sorry for O/T

  Bearly...I'm so sorry...you can count on my prayers for you, your mom and your whole family..I hope she is better soon !
 

[Leroy]

I found Casey quite arrogant in the latest released tapes.

We saw the real casey in that tape...

Oh yesiree we did. I dont like her so much!

[SunnyinTX]

Would someone  please tell us what's going on on NG? What about the search warrants? What were they looking for?

Sunny, you look really hot in that cowboy hat!   

Thanks peri...this is such a great picture of Tim....littletxlady posted  it and I grabbed it.....Tim is my hero

[SweetMorgan]

[snip


Hi CBB, Can you share the Psychiatrist's theory with us?  Thank you.

You'd have to know her............she can really spin a yarn, but in a nutshell, she's summed Cindy up as passive agressive and Casey as historically borderline with recent movement into anti-social, and high level IQ. She said it's pretty common to see movement along the continuim after childbirth. Antisocial behavior has no real emotion (but can fake it very convincingly), and borderlines are all emotion, all the time. Anyway, she thinks Casey and Cindy were a toxic mix and can site a gazillion examples of how she figures Cindy pushed Casey's buttons, and vice versus. However, Cindy was in control because it was her house, her money, her food, and when Caylee came along, she claimed her too (according to Casey's perception, and my doc thinks Cindy probably pushed the buttons as well.) She thinks Casey had fantasized about killing Caylee for some time because Casey saw Caylee as making her life more miserable than ever and also saw her as an avenue that Cindy used to gain more control over her. Casey felt "entitled" to whatever she wanted (typical sociopath) and that heightened the conflict with anyone excercising control over her. Doc doesn't think Casey felt love for Caylee ever. She thinks that a prospect of a guy on the scene added to the fantasy of independence from Cindy and Caylee, and when that came along, she acted on her fantasy for purely selfish reasons and also to hit back at Cindy. The partying, etc. is just evidence that she had accomplished what she wanted. Oh, the doc can talk forever and include lots of details, but that's it in a nutshell.

She wants Casey to go to jail forever, and feels that Casey will adjust there and find other inmates to set up similar dynamics to what she had at home, and ultimately adjust far better than a lot of other inmates. Society does not need Casey Anthony in it!
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Thank you so much CBB for sharing her input.  Wow, she sounds right on.!

[SunnyinTX]

Would someone  please tell us what's going on on NG? What about the search warrants? What were they looking for?

We don't know for sure yet. Info will be released this week.

oh crap...I thought she had it on tonight!

[Leroy]

Would someone  please tell us what's going on on NG? What about the search warrants? What were they looking for?

We don't know for sure yet. Info will be released this week.

oh crap...I thought she had it on tonight!

Sunny fell for the bombshell....LOL   

[SunnyinTX]

Would someone  please tell us what's going on on NG? What about the search warrants? What were they looking for?

We will find out when the next doc dump comes this week. Body of the warrant will give reason/info to why or what they were looking for in the house to match items from the crime scene.

thanks...I guess I miss read a post and thought she had the info tonight.  Did LP drop any new tidbits

[always 1]

O/T  My Mom has been very sick with pneumonia and had been in the hospital.  They sent her home and she now has the flu on top of pneumonia and is back in the hospital.  Please pray for her.  Thanks.

sorry for O/T

  Bearly...I'm so sorry...you can count on my prayers for you, your mom and your whole family..I hope she is better soon !
 

Me too Bearly........xxoxoxoooxoxooxoxoxoxoxox

[klaasend]

Why have they not removed this from the margin on the left??

MISSING FROM ORLANDO
Have You Seen Me!
http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/

I saw that yesterday.  They are unprofessional, opportunists?

[joesamas mama]

I was reading here this afternoon and I know that we all have had losses on our lives.
.
I think that is what draws us here. Some off the cuff posts did sound not quite right.
I have done so myself, forgetting about some of the tradgedies in my own family.
We had what I would call a suicide of a cousin. We all saw it coming. Or we saw something bad happening to her. There had been a series of losses for her beginning with her soon to be ex hubby going on a vacation with his soon to be new wife. A divorce and a new beginning. The new beginning turned sour when she over extended herself physically and money wise. She started to go downhill, sleeping alot, ignoring the business. Went on for a couple of years. Denied she was in trouble. Stated taking OTC to sleep, pain meds. She would rally for a while, then relapse. My Dad was getting her the meds. Going and picking them up. I saw the shopping list one day and told him he was just helping her avoid the problem. We all begged her to go somewhere and get help.
I rounded up a mental heath place that was going to make a house call, but she wouldn't answer the door. Everyone did everything they could think of. We did look into a committment order, but her mother didn't think it had gone that far.
One day, she just didn't wake up. She was taken to the hospital in a coma and my Dad made the decision to pull the plug after consulting everyone. By this time, her mum was a basket case and was just concerned about getting her next drink. The cause of death was listed as a toxic level of drugs, not a suicide, just a toxic level that had shut her kidneys down. She was a beautiful person, she was only 39.
We fought in our family and did the coulda woulda shoulda and the blame thing.
It left us all feeling like we failed her, yet we really did everything we could think of, each and almost every one of us. We were never the same afterwards. I could not speak to her mother for years. In fact, I did not speak to her and she passed with me still feeling that SHE could have done something. It still haunts me when someone's name is the same or when I hear family members struggling with the same types of issues in their family.
When I hear people say well, you should do this, or you should have done that, or making a diagnosis on line, well, it brings it all back. We did everything we could and there was no shortage of money, people or resources to help her, but she didn't want the meddling in her life and would not even discuss it.
We did fail, but we did everything we could think of, yet the feeling that we failed this wonderful person lingers. And why wouldn't she listen to us, we only wanted the best for her. 
Sometimes we can do nothing to help the people close to us, no matter how much we want to or love them.
I am sorry for being O/T.
But maybe George and Cindy were in the same place, between that rock and a hard place after Caylee was born and before it came to the awful end.     
 

Kat Gram that was an Awesome Post
But I think your giving the Ant's too much Credit - because I think they actually enjoyed living and leading the life that they created for each other. Jmo -
Still an Awesome Post

I wanted to add to all - that posted in the End of the Last Cage that I recognize that WE have all found " Family Here" at Scared Monkeys and ... We can fall off of Caylee and state things that are really important and needed to be said. Things of our Personal lives are emotionally triggered by this Case, by other Monkeys postings etc ...

I think though for Some Monkeys who cannot express their own personals so openly become painfully afflicted by reading others personal happenings .. Its not expected in the Caylee Cage ..

I feel that if a Monkey/Monkey's wants to Express such personal things that they should go off into another forum and have a group talk and embrace each other. Some people are not strong enough to face things that are of their past and or lives period, and it goes without saying that it can trigger huge emotions ..that otherwise would not have been ... if it were taken out of the room... I am just sharing my thoughts. My deepest respect for those who are willing to share ..but its unexpected to read such things..if your only here for Caylee.. 
I adore you all ... I just had to say my peace too ......... 

Deenie, I hate to say this but I totally disagree.

The reason these people were telling their stories about suicide had to do with a post made by Fuzzball. I don't know how to go to the other thread and bring it over here, but she basically said people that have family members with the BPD wish that said family member would commit suicide because the family was sick of dealing with the BPD sufferer.

The Monkeys that were offended were offended rightly so. Her post pissed me off and I have never been affected by suicide. I thought it was a cold post. She came back later after being called out on it and had an explanation.

I don't think anyone would have brought up their family history if Fuzzball hadn't opened old wounds up to begin with. No one ever tells Fuzzball to go to another forum to get her family's baggage off her chest.

JMO JSM

Peace Out

[Leroy]

Why have they not removed this from the margin on the left??

MISSING FROM ORLANDO
Have You Seen Me!
http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/

I saw that yesterday.  They are unprofessional, opportunists?

Yesiree Bob!

[mytime]

I dislike the ANT family just as much as anyone here, but the time to get help for Casey would have been before she was 18, when they had some legal control. After that, they should have made a move ( lock her out, whatever )  to protect Caylee. 
I am sorry for the rant, been saving it up. I do feel like yelling at them still sometimes, but none of them are here any more. I just try to not be a know it all when it comes to what other ppl at my work / around here in real life or whatever should do in their own families. I just have to remember what we went through and what it did to us. 
Sometimes, there is no right thing that can be done.

My husband and I sought custody of his 2 children.  After a very long emotionally and financially drawn out battle, we finally prevailed!  Florida and in most states - want bio moms and children to remain united.  IMO, from our experience, the Anthony's had very little chance of getting custody.

I don't think they would have been granted custody either. But if they had just locked Casey out of the house and made Casey do something legally ( and she didn't even have gas money ), they could have protected the baby and made Casey smarten up or go away until she did smarten up. They locked up the shed and the damn gas cans. Frankly, I would have forced the issue and packed Casey's bags, stuck my fingers in my ears and gone la la la la and done the right thing for the baby. I know I would have done that. 
Anyway, tomorrow a doc dump.

Tomorrow?? Really?? I'll never get caught up!! 

ITA but I think Casey used Caylee as her pawn.  My husbands ex did too!  To my suprise, I can't begin to tell you how much we enabled that!  We didn't think we could get the kids, so to keep her happy - which would make the kids the happy - we continously let her try and manipulate us - for the sake of the kids!

Eventualy, she went to far!  We put our foot down!  But trust me there was a lot anxiety about whether she would harm the kids or not!  Thank God we finally got them, she checked out and left me adopt them.  (It was about money for her). Sadly, she put my kids through so much and their scars run deep!!