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Tamikosmom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Jen.Is there a reason to have any focus on Deutekom?If you know!TIA
Keepthefaith I am not jen but I will put in my two bits worth.
I contend that Deutekom is CAPS way of distracting attention away from the truth encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent coverup. Think about the time and effort that
sincere
Monkeys have spent researching this topic and other topics put forth by CAPS' cryptic messages and Shango's riddles and ... the outcome?
If there is something relevent to share ... I say share it in plain English.
MumInOhio said it best ...
Janet
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1450 on: May 06, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »
SS...A simple question as to if Deutekom was a Judge should have been answered 150 pages ago....so should the reason for him going back to the Indo/Lion's Den after he told me no to there. these are simple questions and both merit an answer!
I can't buy Cap's Dirty Hand Deutekom, because how he got to him was flawed. If he is not a Judge he wouldn't have been on that list. It is as simple as that!
There are more questions now than when Caps first started posting!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379518#msg379518
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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20-06-2005 11:00
Geslaagden Ichthus College in Veenendaal.
Atheneum
Vincent Abbing, Veenendaal; Jan van Aggelen, Kesteren; Karen Baanstra, Lunteren; Barbara Bakker, Overberg; Aart van Bennekom, Renswoude; Nanda Bisschop, Renswoude; Daan van den Born, Zeist; Gerrie van den Bosch, Veenendaal; Marian van de Bovenkamp, Veenendaal; Jacob van den Brink, Veenendaal; Janneke Bulten, Veenendaal; Corine ter Burg, Woudenberg; Bert-Jan Coster, Veenendaal; Rianne Cromwijk, Veenendaal; Jaap van Dam, Woudenberg; Guido Dijkstra, Veenendaal; Peter Dijkstra, Veenendaal; Harmke van den Dikkenberg, Overberg; Annemarie Dogterom, Veenendaal; Geerten Doornenbal, Veenendaal; Aldert van Eck, Lunteren; Janita van Eck, Lunteren; Rian Eikelboom, Ede (Gld); Jantine van Ginkel, Overberg; Martijn van Ginkel, Veenendaal; Roselein de Graaf, Veenendaal; Gerdien Groenendijk, Opheusden; Corstian Hanse, Veenendaal; Dinant Hardeman, Lunteren; Anke ’t Hart, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Cynthia Henken, Veenendaal; Kirsten Hidding, Ede (Gld); Christine van de Hoef, Veenendaal; Sanne van Holland, Veenendaal; Joas Jansen, Rhenen; Jan Willem de Jong, Lienden; Harriët Joolink, Overberg; Kevin Keijman, Veenendaal; Alette Keuken, Opheusden; Robert van Kleef, Veenendaal; Willemijn van de Lagemaat, Veenendaal; Thanja Lamberts, Renswoude; Job Lok, Ede (Gld); Jaap van der Mijden, Ede (Gld); John Nap, De Klomp; Marjolein Ouwerkerk, Zetten; Jorin Polet, Veenendaal; Rinelle Pullen, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Mischa de Ridder, Woudenberg; Stefan de Roos, Veenendaal; Evelien Schimmel, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Heline van der Steege, Lunteren; Janneke Stok, Veenendaal; Koos Verhage, Veenendaal; Willemijn Verloop, Veenendaal; Tjitske Versteeg, Veenendaal; Stefan Waalewijn, Veenendaal; Ronald van de Weerdhof, Veenendaal; Anne Wessels, Lunteren; Peter Wijnberger, Veenendaal; Vincent de Wit, Zetten; Corné Wolswinkel, Veenendaal; Reinoud Zwart, Veenendaal.
Havo
Maarten van Amerongen, Veenendaal; Renate van Appeldoorn, Veenendaal; Arine van Asperen, Veenendaal; Gerjan Baan, Ochten; Linda Bakker, De Klomp; Marijke van de Beek, Elst ut; Jorim Bekkers, Ede (Gld); Gerben Bleijenberg, Veenendaal; Marieke Blok, De Klomp; Simon Blok, Randwijk; Simone Blom, Veenendaal; Henk den Boer, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Janneke den Boer, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Cornel Boom, Veenendaal; Alexander Bor, Veenendaal; Henk Bos, Lunteren; Cora van den Brandhof, Renswoude; Gerrie van den Broek, Renswoude; Marga de Bruin, Ede (Gld); Gerben Budding, Veenendaal; Peter Budding, Veenendaal; Gilbert van Burg, Woudenberg; Mark van Burken, Opheusden; Marjan Busser, Overberg; Elsbeth van Capelle, De Klomp; Susanne van Capelleveen, Veenendaal; Steven Diepeveen, Veenendaal; Job van Dijk, Opheusden; Carmen van Doorn, Rhenen; Herman Drost, Dodewaard; Carola van Egdom, Lunteren; Lisette Elsenaar, Veenendaal; Susette Fioole, Veenendaal; Johanan Fraanje, Bennekom; Eric Gerritsen, Kesteren; Gijsbert de Greef, Overberg; Merianne Groothedde, Veenendaal; Liefke Grutterink, Kesteren; Bea Guijt, Veenendaal; Annette ter Haar, Veenendaal; Bas Hardeman, Veenendaal; Bert Hardeman, Ede (Gld); Jan Hardeman, Ederveen; Willemiek van de Heetkamp, Veenendaal; Chris van der Helm, Veenendaal; Ingrid Hendriksen, Veenendaal; Angela Henken, Overberg; Marianne Heutink, Ede (Gld); Jeanine van de Hoef, Veenendaal; Erika van Holland, Bennekom; Janneke Holstege, Veenendaal; Rianne Hullekes, Veenendaal; Bart van Iperen, Veenendaal; Christiaan de Jong, Veenendaal; Sanne de Jong, Veenendaal; Henrieke Jongeneel, Ede (Gld); Matthias Kaljouw, Ingen; Jaap van de Kamp, Veenendaal; Henriëtte de Kleuver, Veenendaal; Maarten van Klompenburg, Veenendaal; Jannik Klumpenaar, Veenendaal; Rianne Klumpenaar, Veenendaal; Jeroen Koedijk, Veenendaal; Gerke van Kooten, Veenendaal; Tom van Langevelde, Veenendaal; Madelon Lansing, Veenendaal; Melissa van der Linden, Veenendaal; Marnix van de Lustgraaf, Veenendaal; Jaap Joost Melse, Arnhem; Judith Methorst, Veenendaal; Corine Nap, Ederveen; Marit Nijburg, Ede (Gld); Annelien Nijland, Zetten; Dirk-Jan van Oosten, Elst (U.); Jaël Oudshoorn, Veenendaal; Erwin Oussoren, Woudenberg; Wendy Overeem, Veenendaal; Leendert Pannekoek, Veenendaal; Mirjam Pieket Weeserik, Veenendaal; Anouska Plantijn, Veenendaal; Lean Reijers, Opheusden; Alice Rijksen, Rhenen; Jacomijn Roest, Veenendaal; Jorine Romeijn, Veenendaal; Willeke Rosendaal, Veenendaal; Leanne Schalk, Veenendaal; Gerlinda Schimmel, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Laurette Schouten, Veenendaal; Margit Schouten, Bennekom; Monique Segers, Veenendaal; Ronald de Snoo, Woudenberg; Marjoleine Sterk, Zetten; Gerhard Stunnenberg, Ede (Gld); Janny Takkebos, Rhenen; Elja Valkenburg, Veenendaal; Dineke van der Veen, Rhenen; Rianne van der Veer, Ede (Gld); Stevianne Veldwijk, Veenendaal; Judith Versluis, Veenendaal; Jorik van Vlastuin, Veenendaal; Merel Vonk, Ede (Gld); Margriet van de Vooren, Veenendaal; Aline Voorhoeve, Veenendaal; Gerline van Voorst, Ederveen; Eddy van Voorthuijsen, Zetten; Sanne Voskuil, Veenendaal; Wim van Vreeswijk, Veenendaal; Judith van Vugt, Woudenberg; Evert Jan van der Waal, Ede (Gld); Rudolph de Waard, Renswoude; Janneke Wegenaar, Veenendaal; Albert Wieman, Veenendaal; Hanneke Wijnberger, Veenendaal; Maarten de Wit, Lienden; Artina van Woerden, Renswoude; Paula Wolfswinkel, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Wimjan van Woudenberg, Doorn; Anne Zandee, Woudenberg; Maurits van Zantwijk, Veenendaal.
Vmbo
José Achterberg, Veenendaal; Gera Achterstraat, Veenendaal; Debora Alink, Woudenberg; Gerjanne van de Berkt, Ederveen; Marvin van de Bijl, Opheusden; Paulien Bloemendal, Veenendaal; Maarten de Boer, Ede (Gld); Alexander den Boer, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Jelle Boone, Veenendaal; Ingrid Bos, Veenendaal; Bertine van den Bosch, Veenendaal; Petra van de Bovenkamp, Overberg; Paulien te Brake, Veenendaal; Bernadette van den Brandhof, Renswoude; Lisanne van den Brandhof, Ederveen; Evelien van den Brink, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Jan Hendrik Brinks, Rhenen; Nadine Brouwer, Woudenberg; Annemarie de Bruin, Veenendaal; Carine van Brummelen, Kesteren; Chris Budding, Veenendaal; Flavio Burger, Veenendaal; Debora Clarijs, Amerongen; Jacob van Dam, Lienden; Wouderick van Dam, Lienden; Christel Diepeveen, Veenendaal; Steven Diepeveen, Veenendaal; Gerard van Dijk, De Klomp; Matthijs van Dijk, Veenendaal; Nikie van Dijk, Overberg; Vyrena van den Dikkenberg, Veenendaal; Jeannet van Donselaar, Langbroek; Benjamin van Doorn, Veenendaal; Arjan van Dorsten, Veenendaal; Paul Draber, Veenendaal; Gemma Driessen, Veenendaal; Marianne van Eck, Opheusden; Renelle van Eden, Veenendaal; Arinda Esveld, Ederveen; Barry Evers, Ederveen; Christian Freeke, Veenendaal; Malou Gaasbeek, Ederveen; Arianne Ganseman, Ochten; Erik Gerrets, Veenendaal; Mirjam Geurtsen, Veenendaal; Woutrina van Ginkel, Ede (Gld); Evelien de Greef, Lunteren; Lukas Groen, Veenendaal; Art van Grondelle, Rhenen; Mirjam van de Haar, Veenendaal; Anne Hakkert, Ingen; Sander van Hal, Ijzendoorn; Dick ten Ham, Ede (Gld); Ashwini Hardeman, Veenendaal; Gertjan van Harten, Veenendaal; Lize Haverkamp, Werkhoven; Michel Heenck, Opheusden; Vera van der Helm, Veenendaal; Rob Henzen, Ochten; Marieke Hoksbergen, Veenendaal; Willem Imminkhuizen, Woudenberg; Ruben de Jong, Veenendaal; Matthijs Joolink, Overberg; Sake Kasper, Rhenen; Stefan Klumpenaar, Veenendaal; Elly de Koning, Ederveen; Nico van Laar, Rhenen; Alicia van Leeuwen, Veenendaal; Sanne van Leeuwen, Veenendaal; Jeroen van der Linden, Veenendaal; Elco Lindhoud, Woudenberg; Ruben Lodder, Veenendaal; André de Man, Veenendaal; Johanneke Mantel, Woudenberg; José Murre, Ede (Gld); Leonie Nap, Veenendaal; Stephan Nieboer, Veenendaal; Ruben Nijburg, Kesteren; Gerrald Pater, Veenendaal; Rianne Pitlo, Elst ut; Naomi van Prooijen, Ede (Gld); Léon Qualm, Bennekom; Mark van Ravenswaaij, Rhenen; Eddy Rijken, Veenendaal; Daniëlle Rijksen, Veenendaal; Ramona van Roekel, Ede (Gld); Maaike Rosendaal, Veenendaal; Marianne van der Schee, Veenendaal; Willie van de Scheur, Rhenen; Maarten Schimmel, Kesteren; Gerco Schoeman, Veenendaal; Mariëtta Seekles, Zeist; Lisette van Setten, Opheusden;
Robert van der Sloot,
Woudenberg; Jacco van Soest, Kesteren; Leanne Spies, Rhenen; Heleen van Steenbergen, Bennekom; Jacob van Steenbergen, Veenendaal; Sanne van Steenbergen, Bennekom; Richard Sukkel, Kesteren; Samantha Veerman, Ochten; Leanda van Velde, Kesteren; Brigitte Veldhuizen, Renswoude; Giesette Vink, Veenendaal; Kees Visser, Lienden; Wouter Visser, Amerongen; Rijk van Voorst, Ede (Gld); Anneloes Wajer, Veenendaal; Elise van de Weerdhof, Veenendaal; Marijn van de Worp, Ede (Gld); Matthijs Zegveld, Scherpenzeel (Gld); Jeroen de Zwaan, Woudenberg.
Dossier
* Examens 2005
http://www.refdag.nl/artikel/1218970/Ichthus+College.html
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Reply #402 on:
January 26, 2009, 01:56:31 PM »
Quote from: hotping on January 26, 2009, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: SS on January 26, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: hotping on January 26, 2009, 01:21:50 PM
Quote from: SS on January 26, 2009, 01:13:02 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 25, 2009, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 25, 2009, 11:08:15 PM
Quote from: wreck on January 25, 2009, 10:54:21 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 25, 2009, 10:47:52 PM
Quote from: wreck on January 25, 2009, 10:43:22 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 25, 2009, 10:39:07 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 25, 2009, 06:04:14 PM
In the following Tim Miller/Greta interview ... Tim states that Louis Schaefer and John Silvetti contacted him regarding the undertaking.
Janet
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Natalee Holloway: Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch Discusses Crab Trap, Clothing and DNA Found in Waters of Aruba
February 27,
2005
2008
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/02/27/natalee-holloway-tim-miller-of-texas-equusearch-discusses-crab-trap-clothing-and-dna-found-in-waters-of-aruba/
Good evening Monkey's.So is it safe to say that Louis and John interjected themselves?TIA
Doesn't "DNA found" at least indicate that human remains were found in that trap??
This Persitence crap pisses me off to no end!Absolutely unbelievable!
Why wouldn't Aruba at least purport to the world that DNA of SOMEONE was found? Why wouldn't they at least make up some story of a drug smuggler or something? They just pretended it didn't exist.
It would be interesting to know if anyone on the Persistence ever met with
DTKM
??
Enough with the riddles!! Spit it out or ... I am going to call you CAPS/SHANGO.
Janet
I might be able to offer an explanation for the DTKM code. Frans Deutekom is a very powerful and frightening person in Aruba. Behind the scenes, he is the one who everyone else answers to, including Rudy Cores. Deutekom is supposedly in charge of Aruba. When we were duscussing Deutekom in Shango, we shortened his name to DTKM, because the name Frans Duetekom would not show up if ALE tried to use Google to find people who were discussing Deutekom. We also used a name, Regnad Enoz to indicate things that we needed to be careful discussing. It was never meant to be riddle. It was protect people.
Thank You SS.....I remember this....By the way Do You know anything about Robbert VanderSLoot...that is....Is He any kin to Paulus? Just Curious...TIA
I don't know anything about Robbert van der Sloot, and I have no idea if he is a relative of Paulass and Urine. I do know that Paulass has at least two brothers in Holland. One brother is a scientist and professor, possibly at the University of Tilburg. I think his name is Ko. There is another brother in the Dutch government. His picture is below, but I forget his name. I can only assume that Robbert van der Sloot could be the son of one of these brothers.
Thanks Again SS....By the way...Its good to see You!
Thanks, Hotping, it's good to see you, too.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Reply #403 on:
January 26, 2009, 02:03:27 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2009, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Jen.Is there a reason to have any focus on Deutekom?If you know!TIA
Keepthefaith I am not jen but I will put in my two bits worth.
I contend that Deutekom is CAPS way of distracting attention away from the truth encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent coverup. Think about the time and effort that
sincere
Monkeys have spent researching this topic and other topics put forth by CAPS' cryptic messages and Shango's riddles and ... the outcome?
If there is something relevent to share ... I say share it in plain English.
MumInOhio said it best ...
Janet
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1450 on: May 06, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »
SS...A simple question as to if Deutekom was a Judge should have been answered 150 pages ago....so should the reason for him going back to the Indo/Lion's Den after he told me no to there. these are simple questions and both merit an answer!
I can't buy Cap's Dirty Hand Deutekom, because how he got to him was flawed. If he is not a Judge he wouldn't have been on that list. It is as simple as that!
There are more questions now than when Caps first started posting!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379518#msg379518
Thanx Janet.I remember Caps answering that DTKM was dirtyhand i think.I will go back and find it under his posts.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Jen.Is there a reason to have any focus on Deutekom?If you know!TIA
In reading really briefly - caps first says he is "the guy" who works cases against government officials.
Then he says he is "the guy" who is a behavioralist of sorts who recommends sentences to the judges.
That we never, ever heard this guy's name before makes me wonder a lot of things.
We had karin janssen in sole charge of this case - according to theresa croes.
Then janssen was replaces by Mos. And Nico Jorg "replaced" (so to speak) theresa croes.
We had Marianne Croes as the official spokesperson for the OM's office.
We never, ever heard of this guy - and that Janssen took a lot of heat from Theresa, and was the ONLY one named by her as having run amok with this case....................well, that tells me a lot.
But - this was only after a cursory glance thru that thread.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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CapsLockWizard
"in these cases, the Only person that is inchage of under 18 kid crimes and is Dutch is F. van D.
he is the behavior specialist. He can make you look not guilty even tho you are guilty or he can make you look a Saint meanwhile you are the devil in human form"
"on the night in question the Publick prosecuter that defend allway the Government and has all the power to twist thing is Dirty Hand aka F. van D....kom.
his power is at the same level as Hedrick Croes...."
Keepthefaith
Was CapsLockWizard the first to bring this name to attention?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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http://ru-ru.facebook.com/people/Robert-Van-Der-Sloot/609936238
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 02:08:18 PM
CapsLockWizard
"in these cases, the Only person that is inchage of under 18 kid crimes and is Dutch is F. van D.
he is the behavior specialist. He can make you look not guilty even tho you are guilty or he can make you look a Saint meanwhile you are the devil in human form"
"on the night in question the Publick prosecuter that defend allway the Government and has all the power to twist thing is Dirty Hand aka F. van D....kom.
his power is at the same level as Hedrick Croes...."
Keepthefaith
Was CapsLockWizard the first to bring this name to attention?
From my recollection, yes. That is not to say that the name had not been posted in the past as being part of the gov't there. Someone will correct me, if I am wrong about this.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Reply #408 on:
January 26, 2009, 02:13:57 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on January 26, 2009, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Jen.Is there a reason to have any focus on Deutekom?If you know!TIA
In reading really briefly - caps first says he is "the guy" who works cases against government officials.
Then he says he is "the guy" who is a behavioralist of sorts who recommends sentences to the judges.
That we never, ever heard this guy's name before makes me wonder a lot of things.
We had karin janssen in sole charge of this case - according to theresa croes.
Then janssen was replaces by Mos. And Nico Jorg "replaced" (so to speak) theresa croes.
We had Marianne Croes as the official spokesperson for the OM's office.
We never, ever heard of this guy - and that Janssen took a lot of heat from Theresa, and was the ONLY one named by her as having run amok with this case....................well, that tells me a lot.
But - this was only after a cursory glance thru that thread.
Thanx Jen,as well as Janet.As everyone i think knows.I don't support CapsLockWizard.I find the CapsLockWizard supporters very silent at all times.Very interesting.If anyone is a CapsLockWizard supporter please explain why.What has he brought to the table factually?Serious question.TIA
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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January 26, 2009, 02:16:05 PM »
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on January 26, 2009, 02:11:53 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 02:08:18 PM
CapsLockWizard
"in these cases, the Only person that is inchage of under 18 kid crimes and is Dutch is F. van D.
he is the behavior specialist. He can make you look not guilty even tho you are guilty or he can make you look a Saint meanwhile you are the devil in human form"
"on the night in question the Publick prosecuter that defend allway the Government and has all the power to twist thing is Dirty Hand aka F. van D....kom.
his power is at the same level as Hedrick Croes...."
Keepthefaith
Was CapsLockWizard the first to bring this name to attention?
From my recollection, yes. That is not to say that the name had not been posted in the past as being part of the gov't there. Someone will correct me, if I am wrong about this.
Thanx 2nj.I appreciate all the more knowledgable Monkey's bringing forth the information.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Reply #410 on:
January 26, 2009, 02:21:47 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2009, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Jen.Is there a reason to have any focus on Deutekom?If you know!TIA
Keepthefaith I am not jen but I will put in my two bits worth.
I contend that Deutekom is CAPS way of distracting attention away from the truth encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent coverup. Think about the time and effort that
sincere
Monkeys have spent researching this topic and other topics put forth by CAPS' cryptic messages and Shango's riddles and ... the outcome?
If there is something relevent to share ... I say share it in plain English.
MumInOhio said it best ...
Janet
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1450 on: May 06, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »
SS...A simple question as to if Deutekom was a Judge should have been answered 150 pages ago....so should the reason for him going back to the Indo/Lion's Den after he told me no to there. these are simple questions and both merit an answer!
I can't buy Cap's Dirty Hand Deutekom, because how he got to him was flawed. If he is not a Judge he wouldn't have been on that list. It is as simple as that!
There are more questions now than when Caps first started posting!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379518#msg379518
Thanx Janet.I remember Caps answering that DTKM was dirtyhand i think.I will go back and find it under his posts.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Reply #411 on:
January 26, 2009, 02:25:14 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2009, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Jen.Is there a reason to have any focus on Deutekom?If you know!TIA
Keepthefaith I am not jen but I will put in my two bits worth.
I contend that Deutekom is CAPS way of distracting attention away from the truth encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent coverup. Think about the time and effort that
sincere
Monkeys have spent researching this topic and other topics put forth by CAPS' cryptic messages and Shango's riddles and ... the outcome?
If there is something relevent to share ... I say share it in plain English.
MumInOhio said it best ...
Janet
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MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1450 on: May 06, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »
SS...A simple question as to if Deutekom was a Judge should have been answered 150 pages ago....so should the reason for him going back to the Indo/Lion's Den after he told me no to there. these are simple questions and both merit an answer!
I can't buy Cap's Dirty Hand Deutekom, because how he got to him was flawed. If he is not a Judge he wouldn't have been on that list. It is as simple as that!
There are more questions now than when Caps first started posting!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379518#msg379518
MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1440 on: May 06, 2008, 06:42:17 PM »
Guess we will have to agree to disagree. I don't have to give him the benefit of the doubt just because he's Caps
All I see is a whole lot of new names and misinformation and very few facts...Giovanni, Deutekom, Bulo, Freddy that doesn't exist, odd-bods living at the kalpoes address, list of names that don't match the phone book...
Yes, something is going on at that pond, and we are still dealing with Aruba. I'm in total agreement with Lala's on this one, nothing will come of the pond.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379502#msg379502
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Reply #412 on:
January 26, 2009, 02:27:12 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2009, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2009, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Jen.Is there a reason to have any focus on Deutekom?If you know!TIA
Keepthefaith I am not jen but I will put in my two bits worth.
I contend that Deutekom is CAPS way of distracting attention away from the truth encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent coverup. Think about the time and effort that
sincere
Monkeys have spent researching this topic and other topics put forth by CAPS' cryptic messages and Shango's riddles and ... the outcome?
If there is something relevent to share ... I say share it in plain English.
MumInOhio said it best ...
Janet
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MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1450 on: May 06, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »
SS...A simple question as to if Deutekom was a Judge should have been answered 150 pages ago....so should the reason for him going back to the Indo/Lion's Den after he told me no to there. these are simple questions and both merit an answer!
I can't buy Cap's Dirty Hand Deutekom, because how he got to him was flawed. If he is not a Judge he wouldn't have been on that list. It is as simple as that!
There are more questions now than when Caps first started posting!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379518#msg379518
MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1440 on: May 06, 2008, 06:42:17 PM »
Guess we will have to agree to disagree. I don't have to give him the benefit of the doubt just because he's Caps
All I see is a whole lot of new names and misinformation and very few facts...Giovanni, Deutekom, Bulo, Freddy that doesn't exist, odd-bods living at the kalpoes address, list of names that don't match the phone book...
Yes, something is going on at that pond, and we are still dealing with Aruba. I'm in total agreement with Lala's on this one, nothing will come of the pond.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379502#msg379502
I guess i'm continue to try to grasp why one believe's and support's Caps.Why?Is my head bloody from beating it against the brick wall!
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I just have a few minutes during my lunch, but here is one link on Deutekom
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/crc/docs/list/NetherlandsList50.pdf
Page 4
Frans van Deutekom
Public Prosecutor with the Office of the Attorney General of Aruba
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Now, I am not one of those smart monkeys,
but when CapsLockWizzard first started posting about Dutekom,
it just seemed too far into left field to me. Here was someone
that we had never heard of, who was said to have as much
power as Rudy Croes.
I used the San logic on that one.....just skipped over all that mess.
And the cryptic "danger zone" that anyone could de code was just
too riduculious to even consider.
IMO it was just another diversion.
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Quote from: texasmom on January 26, 2009, 02:32:26 PM
I just have a few minutes during my lunch, but here is one link on Deutekom
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/crc/docs/list/NetherlandsList50.pdf
Page 4
Frans van Deutekom
Public Prosecutor with the Office of the Attorney General of Aruba
Thanks texasmom.
This guy is sure ellusive.
Janet
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Reply #416 on:
January 26, 2009, 02:40:51 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on January 26, 2009, 02:35:17 PM
Now, I am not one of those smart monkeys,
but when CapsLockWizzard first started posting about Dutekom,
it just seemed too far into left field to me. Here was someone
that we had never heard of, who was said to have as much
power as Rudy Croes.
I used the San logic on that one.....just skipped over all that mess.
And the cryptic "danger zone" that anyone could de code was just
too riduculious to even consider.
IMO it was just another diversion.
I agree Magnolia.
Janet
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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January 26, 2009, 02:43:06 PM »
The only thing that comes to mind for me that I believe Deutekom may have had part in that we have information about is the discussion that Vanderstraten had with Joran about going to a facility. IMO Deutekom could have assisted with a defense if Joran's confession had made the light of day; a defense that would have involved him only being placed in a mental facility for a short while for some dreamed up psychological ailment that caused his actions against Natalee.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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Reply #418 on:
January 26, 2009, 02:51:14 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 02:27:12 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2009, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on January 26, 2009, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 26, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Jen.Is there a reason to have any focus on Deutekom?If you know!TIA
Keepthefaith I am not jen but I will put in my two bits worth.
I contend that Deutekom is CAPS way of distracting attention away from the truth encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent coverup. Think about the time and effort that
sincere
Monkeys have spent researching this topic and other topics put forth by CAPS' cryptic messages and Shango's riddles and ... the outcome?
If there is something relevent to share ... I say share it in plain English.
MumInOhio said it best ...
Janet
+++++++
MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1450 on: May 06, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »
SS...A simple question as to if Deutekom was a Judge should have been answered 150 pages ago....so should the reason for him going back to the Indo/Lion's Den after he told me no to there. these are simple questions and both merit an answer!
I can't buy Cap's Dirty Hand Deutekom, because how he got to him was flawed. If he is not a Judge he wouldn't have been on that list. It is as simple as that!
There are more questions now than when Caps first started posting!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379518#msg379518
MumInOhio
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #3
« Reply #1440 on: May 06, 2008, 06:42:17 PM »
Guess we will have to agree to disagree. I don't have to give him the benefit of the doubt just because he's Caps
All I see is a whole lot of new names and misinformation and very few facts...Giovanni, Deutekom, Bulo, Freddy that doesn't exist, odd-bods living at the kalpoes address, list of names that don't match the phone book...
Yes, something is going on at that pond, and we are still dealing with Aruba. I'm in total agreement with Lala's on this one, nothing will come of the pond.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379502#msg379502
I guess i'm continue to try to grasp why one believe's and support's Caps.Why?Is my head bloody from beating it against the brick wall!
My head is also bloodied from beating my head against that wall. However ... my heart is also broken.
Countless hours have been spent by
sincere
Monkeys attempting to decipher CAPS cryptic posts rather than focusing on what has been revealed in black and white. Whether CAPS should be revered has caused a division. CAPS must be laughing. He has emerged the victor. He kept the focus off the contents of the cage/trap for almost one year. Mission accomplished!
Janet
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_____
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #795 1/23/09 -
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It leads me to wonder what CapsLockWizzard had aganist
this Deutekon that he would want to implicate him into
the thick of things.
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