Caylee Marie Anthony #97 1/23/09 - 1/24/09

[Grandma2Maddie]

Sassy,I didn't think we'd ever get in to a new cage. 

I know Trimm.   I'm still behind, though.   I went out for a couple of hours today.   Is it true that KC beheaded Caylee?   Is it true that Conway said that George needs to fear Cindy?

I think a guy on tv made a dismembered remark...went from there.
And yes Cindy is to be feared. 

Oh. OK.   So, the guy on TV  is just guessing?     It hasn't been said as a "fact" yet.       
Thanks for answering!     

I'm the one that started  all of this.  Sorry!  I heard on HLN a defense attorney say that GA is dealing with the possiblity that his daughter murdered his granddaughter and then mentioned that the fact that his granddaughter was dismembered.  I thought it was odd of him saying this as I have no idea why he would say such a thing.  Someone suggested that when they found her body that her skull was not attatched when found (not to mention that someone did something to this poor baby cause this though) probably just the elements. 

Thanks for telling us  "the rest of the story".            

So, it's George who first introduced the "dismemberment" angle? And he knew this....how?

No it was not GA!  It was a talking head attorney on HLN.  I'm not defending GA at all just trying to get what I heard on HLN out here correctly.

[no rose colored glasses]

ON Greta...................

Even when he was allegedly going to kill himself he STILL insisted on professing (in his “suicide” letter) that Casey is innocent & AGAIN tried to FRAME her “friends.”

That kind of DISGUSTING ANIMAL WHO WOULD TRY TO BLAME INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR WHAT HIS S L U T of a daughter did (COLD-BLOODED MURDER)!! deserves EXACTLY what he is getting & MORE.

OK.  So if this is true that the letter states that he believes KC is innocent - and that her friends killed Caylee - then my opinion is that the whole suicide attempt is STAGED.   I don't believe it anymore.   He didn't take enough pills on purpose.  And, he left his phone on - ON PURPOSE.     

I couldn't agree more.  If that's the case, it's yet another Anthony scheme and he made a fool out of me again.

I know.   I'm so mad right now.    I wish they would just throw them all  in jail, already.   I can't believe this crap.   I have no pity at all for George, now.   I have to admit, I fell for it earlier, though.   I think I need a beer!   grrr.

This is the second time I fell for this, the first time after the grand jury, I was thinking now he will be truthful and face facts, and now this. I will never fall for anything from this family again.

[luckycharmsprincess]

Against my better judgment I had to post what I am thinking at the moment. Everyone on this board comes here for one thing, justice for Caylee.

I was actually a bit surprised while I was reading in the previous thread the comments on George being a pathological liar, deflecting and possibly setting this attempt up to cause doubt. I take this to be speculation based on emotions, emotions that run deep when we see this sweet little girl and wish so much that she had a different set of circumstances. We can barely speculate on what's wrong with Casey let alone the members of her family.

Ask yourself a question. If he had successfully killed himself, would everyone here be talking about him being a pathological liar that should burn in hell?

If the answer to that is yes then we must be very judgmental as a human race.

[NewfieMonkey]

Judge Rules Casey Must Attend Future Hearings

Friday, January 23, 2009 – updated: 5:22 pm EST January 23, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There was an important development Friday in the legal case against Casey. Judge Stan Strickland has ordered her to attend all future court proceedings (read judge's order).

have you all seen this already? I'm running behind 

Good for Judge Strickland.  That slore should NOT be allowed to live happily in her little cell and NOT think about what she did to her daughter ... her family ... and everyone!

[no rose colored glasses]

I'm sure the jewelry story was a lie, but maybe Cindy was asking George to go pick out jewelry for her to wear at Caylee's funeral.

  WHY IS CINDY THINKING ABOUT JEWELRY IN THE FIRST PLACE.  CAYLEE IS NOTHING BUT BONES SHE DOES NOT KEED JEWELRY SHE.     NEEDS JUSTICE AND TO BE PUT TO REST  i THINK KC IS WHAT SHE IS BECUSE OF CINDY.  TO ASK GEORGE TO PICK OUT JEWELRY SHOWS SHE IS AS CRAZY AS HER DAUGHTER   

If this crazy story is true - what I don't understand is WHY wouldn't Cindy go with George to get it?   Why only send him?   I still say it was an excuse to get him out of the house.   jmo.

IIRC, on the 911 tape, Conway said noone had seen GA since he left the house at 3:30 am.. so what is it? 3:30am or going out for jewelry?

Good catch, unless there is a 24 hour jewelry store near by.

[Scatty]

Flossy
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #96
« Reply #1948 on: Today at 07:45:01 PM »

... I think George needs to get the hell away from Cindy no matter what is going with their daughter.  The woman is completely toxic

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4438.1940


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George is not the good guy in that dysfunctional household.  When I consider both George and Casey actions that imply neither could not be trusted ... if I was Cindy ... I would have packed my bags ... taken Caylee Marie and ... taken off.  Staying would have implied I would have turned into a controlling shrew.

History reveals what road Cindy chose to take.

Janet
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I agree with you that he is not "the good guy" in that household.  There IS NO good guy there.  I do think, however, that his controlling wife is a big reason this whole "stand by our evil daughter" has continued for so long.  I think that there is a much better chance of George cracking than there is of Cindy cracking.   I think the chance of him breaking down and doing the right thing are much better if the two of them are estranged, too.  (Dare to dream, I know.)

George is EVERY BIT as determined as Cindy to "stand by" Casey. He's the one who started the whole "Caylee as cottage industry" thing in the first place! It's amazing how Cindy gets the blame not only for what she does, but also for what everyone else in the family does as well! Small wonder she insists on pretending they're all perfect.

George is the one Casey asked to talk to privately, when she was first arrested. He was the one she wanted to talk to. IMO, George knows "a lot about a lot of things," and probably that includes how a dead animal got into the sandbox and where the body was hidden all this time.

He didn't call the police from the tow yard, and IMO that speaks volumes. IMO his suicidal slump stems not from realizing Caylee is gone. I think he's known that all along. It comes from realizing that there's no way to go on keeping it secret--all the ugly secrets are about to come out, and IMO George has some of the ugliest ones.

I agree Fuzz. I also believe that George discovered Caylee's body on the 24th, when he said he got the gas cans from KC's car.  I think the body had been in the cloth laundry bag and leaked a basketball sized stain in the trunk. I think KC spun some yarn for his benefit, how someone had kidnapped Caylee and then placed the body in her car to frame her and keep her from talking, possibly drug connected. Some person or persons whom George calls her "dark friends". I think GA moved the body to its final resting place, after placing it in the black garbage bag with yellow ties. He knew the body wasn't in the trunk at the tow yard, but went through the act of behaving as if he were scared of what he may find. He told that story identically one time too many. I believe deep, deep down he knows KC did it, but has clung to the "dark friends" explanation out of a desperate need for denial. Whether he actually planned to kill himself or not, I think he was using the "Suicide Note" as a way to help KC, by affirming her innocence.

[Brandi]

Channel 2's article on their website says the suicide note was 8 pages, channel 6's article says it was 3 pages, and somewhere else it was reported as 5 pages.

Just an example of why we have to be careful believing things we read and hear from the media when a story is new.

Frustrating, I say.

[Wyks]

I'm sure the jewelry story was a lie, but maybe Cindy was asking George to go pick out jewelry for her to wear at Caylee's funeral.

  WHY IS CINDY THINKING ABOUT JEWELRY IN THE FIRST PLACE.  CAYLEE IS NOTHING BUT BONES SHE DOES NOT KEED JEWELRY SHE.     NEEDS JUSTICE AND TO BE PUT TO REST  i THINK KC IS WHAT SHE IS BECUSE OF CINDY.  TO ASK GEORGE TO PICK OUT JEWELRY SHOWS SHE IS AS CRAZY AS HER DAUGHTER   

If this crazy story is true - what I don't understand is WHY wouldn't Cindy go with George to get it?   Why only send him?   I still say it was an excuse to get him out of the house.   jmo.

Sounds like the whole jewelry story is completely untrue start to finish.

I suspect they're being blackmailed, and the jewelry story is a cover because George took $ with him. Cindy thought of jewelry to explain the $, without thinking it through.

Okies, throwing you a lifeline Fuzz, cuz that's just a tad bid too far 'thinking outside of the box'.. ya know?   

[TURBOTHINK]

This is past ridiculous…………My belief is that it was planned and when they write their book it will bring in more money. George was a policeman so he knows how to get lost………..and if he wanted to really kill himself he would have. Ex- law enforcement usually put a gun in their mouth. He had no intention of killing himself. but yes he does need to be locked up for a while.

This family is past dysfunctional……………..I thought that at first he just wanted to get away from it all but evidently he wanted to be found. You don't text everyone you are committing suicide if you are going to do it. From what I read he wrote a note saying KC didn't do it, and one of her friends did. That is past despicable that he would try to implicate innocent people AGAIN.  

All this would just go away if that no good daughter would confess or her parens would tell the d*mn truth. I am sure Lee knows something also.  

Like I have said from the beginning we will see WHO is still standing in the end, as the largest EVIL will destroy the lesser evils.

Maybe like Baez tried to imply, that George had something to do with it.

[cherjers]

I'm sure the jewelry story was a lie, but maybe Cindy was asking George to go pick out jewelry for her to wear at Caylee's funeral.

  WHY IS CINDY THINKING ABOUT JEWELRY IN THE FIRST PLACE.  CAYLEE IS NOTHING BUT BONES SHE DOES NOT KEED JEWELRY SHE.     NEEDS JUSTICE AND TO BE PUT TO REST  i THINK KC IS WHAT SHE IS BECUSE OF CINDY.  TO ASK GEORGE TO PICK OUT JEWELRY SHOWS SHE IS AS CRAZY AS HER DAUGHTER   

If this crazy story is true - what I don't understand is WHY wouldn't Cindy go with George to get it?   Why only send him?   I still say it was an excuse to get him out of the house.   jmo.

The way I read it meant the jewelery was FOR CINDY ~~ You don't put jewelery on bones.yes thats true--but you dont send your husband to buy you jewelry when you grand child is  nothing but bones

[GramaMonkey]

I'll bring this over from the other post.  All monkeys please keep eyes open 

From Orange County
1/15/2009     A     NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
1/20/2009    A    MOTION TO INSPECT CRIME SCENE
1/20/2009    A    NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
1/22/2009    A    AMENDED APPLICATION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM
1/22/2009    A    NOTICE OF HEARING FILED <01/30/2009> 08:30 A.M.
1/22/2009    A    NOTICE OF PROVISION OF DOCUMENTS UNDER SEAL FOR IN CAMERA INSPECTION PURSUANT TO THIS COURT'S ORDER OF JANUARY 8, 2009 RE: DEFENDANT'S EX PARTE MOTION TO APPOINT SPECIAL MASTER.
1/23/2009    A    AMENDED DEFENSE WITNESS LIST

Anyone find the new list?  TY!

I haven't - but I'm just sure the prosecution motion being heard on the 30th has something to do with the defense witness list ... maybe related to this amendment?  ... Hmm

Well, I'm sure when it's located, it'll be posted.  Just very curious about this because past behavior of the Anthony's is when there is drama at one place, they are usually deflecting attention away for a reason.

It had been posted earlier today, that the defense witness list lacked addresses, etc....

[peanut]

Channel 2's article on their website says the suicide note was 8 pages, channel 6's article says it was 3 pages, and somewhere else it was reported as 5 pages.

Just an example of why we have to be careful believing things we read and hear from the media when a story is new.

Frustrating, I say.

AMEN TO THAT.

[always 1]

No, I dont want anyone to burn in hell, but I did not make a rash decision about George, I have had what, seven months to think about it.  And I still stand by my post this am.  If he had died, I would feel sorry, but that would not change my mind.

[Fuzzball]

UPDATED: Sources: George Anthony Took Sleeping Pills; Suicide Note Found In Car
Casey Anthony Remains Jailed In Daughter's Death
POSTED: Thursday, January 22, 2009
UPDATED: 4:18 pm EST January 23, 2009

<snipped>
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The father of Casey Anthony, who is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, had alcohol in his motel room and took several sleeping pills prior to being found by authorities after he sent suicidal text messages to family members who reported him missing, sources told Local 6 News.

Meanwhile, Local 6 News learned Thursday that a gas can with apparent duct tape on it that was seized from the home of George and Cindy Anthony, where Casey Anthony and Caylee lived, is being compared to duct tape found over Caylee's mouth because the tape appears to be identical.

The gas can was seized by investigators Aug. 1 from the Anthony home. Local 6 News showed video of the metal gas can, which appeared to have silver duct tape on it.

George Anthony Found Safe After Threatening Suicide: VIDEO
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18549851/index.html

Jose Baez: Casey Anthony 'Holding Up' After Father's Suicide Threats: VIDEO
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18549643/index.html

911 Call Released Of George Anthony Reported Missing
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18549911/index.html

Local 6: George Anthony Found Safe; Suicide Note Located: VIDEO
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18547175/index.html

PHOTOS: Suicide Threat
http://www.clickorlando.com/slidesho...ews&dm=ss&tn=b

Article:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18543583/detail.html
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several sleeping pills? Maybe he was just trying to get some sleep.

   From what I understand the pill container was empty when found.  Very likely more than 'several'. 

The quoted article above starts out with the statement "several" pills.  Which article says the container was empty? And if he'd taken it all, how did he walk to the car? He had 4 beers left, so I assume he drank two. I figure they estimated based on what was left in the container, how many pills he'd taken, but they might just have asked him. He was conscious when they found him.

haha ya and we all know how accurate the media always is. the le isnt going to release details from theletter, they said in the press conference they dont have it. i think too many people are taking bits of info and running way to fast with it. just my two cents.

True, but I was trying to work from the available documentation. Confused here about details from the letter, since they've already published that it says Cindy could do better, that Casey's innocent, that her friends had something to do with it, and "something" about Lee they're not detailing. And now they say LE doesn't have the letter? If they don't, who does? How do we know, then, that there ever was a letter? Was that made up, too?

[Puzzler]

ON Greta...................

Even when he was allegedly going to kill himself he STILL insisted on professing (in his “suicide” letter) that Casey is innocent & AGAIN tried to FRAME her “friends.”

That kind of DISGUSTING ANIMAL WHO WOULD TRY TO BLAME INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR WHAT HIS S L U T of a daughter did (COLD-BLOODED MURDER)!! deserves EXACTLY what he is getting & MORE.

OK.  So if this is true that the letter states that he believes KC is innocent - and that her friends killed Caylee - then my opinion is that the whole suicide attempt is STAGED.   I don't believe it anymore.   He didn't take enough pills on purpose.  And, he left his phone on - ON PURPOSE.     

And had a car with OnStar ... on purpose ...

He was an ex-LE ... LE don't usually "threaten" suicide ... they put a gun to their head ... which is why their suicide rate is so much higher than that of the average citizen.  It was a ploy ... I'm convinced of that now!  I take back every sympathetic and nice thing I said about this scenario this morning!  (and okay - I'll take a little time between refrigerator trips from this point on.)

IMO I'm going to not rush to judgement on this one...we've heard all along that George might have a tendency to "do something".  Remember he bought a gun and someone told on him right away and the LE came out and got the gun, which was hidden in his car (so it would be with hime at all times) (not in the house in case protesters broke in, etc.).  I think George has too many things to worry about to spend his time thinking up ways to fool people.  Each person is an individual and just because "most" would do things in a certain way doesn't mean all would, or that George would...heck, I don't know how I would act in his circumstances and pray to God I never have to find out. 

[Keepthefaith]

ON Greta...................

Even when he was allegedly going to kill himself he STILL insisted on professing (in his “suicide” letter) that Casey is innocent & AGAIN tried to FRAME her “friends.”

That kind of DISGUSTING ANIMAL WHO WOULD TRY TO BLAME INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR WHAT HIS S L U T of a daughter did (COLD-BLOODED MURDER)!! deserves EXACTLY what he is getting & MORE.

OK.  So if this is true that the letter states that he believes KC is innocent - and that her friends killed Caylee - then my opinion is that the whole suicide attempt is STAGED.   I don't believe it anymore.   He didn't take enough pills on purpose.  And, he left his phone on - ON PURPOSE.     

Exactly

... and he broke open a case of beer and ... put four in the fridge on purpose.

 

Janet

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George Anthony Found Safe After Threatening Suicide
Casey Anthony Remains Jailed In Daughter's Death
POSTED: Thursday, January 22, 2009
UPDATED: 2:04 pm EST January 23, 2009

Local 6 News showed video of the motel room in which George Anthony was staying. A cardboard container of a 12-pack of beer was in the room with four unopened bottles in the refrigerator

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18543583/detail.html

The more you think about it the more it does appear that this was a diversion from the Doc-drop....JMOO

[Sassycat]

ON Greta...................

Even when he was allegedly going to kill himself he STILL insisted on professing (in his “suicide” letter) that Casey is innocent & AGAIN tried to FRAME her “friends.”

That kind of DISGUSTING ANIMAL WHO WOULD TRY TO BLAME INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR WHAT HIS S L U T of a daughter did (COLD-BLOODED MURDER)!! deserves EXACTLY what he is getting & MORE.

OK.  So if this is true that the letter states that he believes KC is innocent - and that her friends killed Caylee - then my opinion is that the whole suicide attempt is STAGED.   I don't believe it anymore.   He didn't take enough pills on purpose.  And, he left his phone on - ON PURPOSE.     

And had a car with OnStar ... on purpose ...

He was an ex-LE ... LE don't usually "threaten" suicide ... they put a gun to their head ... which is why their suicide rate is so much higher than that of the average citizen.  It was a ploy ... I'm convinced of that now!  I take back every sympathetic and nice thing I said about this scenario this morning!  (and okay - I'll take a little time between refrigerator trips from this point on.)

   You're funny.   But, I agree.   If he is trying to put it on the friends - and off of Casey - then I don't believe his suicide attempt was for real.   I believe it was all staged.     I realize he is under great stress.   But, I believe he KNOWS his daughter killed Caylee.   He's a jerk for trying to pin it on innocent people.     What's next in this crazy case?   geez.

[TURBOTHINK]

I'm sure the jewelry story was a lie, but maybe Cindy was asking George to go pick out jewelry for her to wear at Caylee's funeral.

  WHY IS CINDY THINKING ABOUT JEWELRY IN THE FIRST PLACE.  CAYLEE IS NOTHING BUT BONES SHE DOES NOT KEED JEWELRY SHE.     NEEDS JUSTICE AND TO BE PUT TO REST  i THINK KC IS WHAT SHE IS BECUSE OF CINDY.  TO ASK GEORGE TO PICK OUT JEWELRY SHOWS SHE IS AS CRAZY AS HER DAUGHTER   

If this crazy story is true - what I don't understand is WHY wouldn't Cindy go with George to get it?   Why only send him?   I still say it was an excuse to get him out of the house.   jmo.

IIRC, on the 911 tape, Conway said noone had seen GA since he left the house at 3:30 am.. so what is it? 3:30am or going out for jewelry?

Good catch, unless there is a 24 hour jewelry store near by.

It is just another string of Anthony LIES.

[Dolce]

Judge Rules Casey Must Attend Future Hearings

Friday, January 23, 2009 – updated: 5:22 pm EST January 23, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There was an important development Friday in the legal case against Casey. Judge Stan Strickland has ordered her to attend all future court proceedings (read judge's order).

have you all seen this already? I'm running behind 

Love it!  No I hadn't seen this yet.

[OriginalKat]

Nancy has always shown sympathy for the Anthonys, very seldom questioning their motives the way many of us have.

BTW, I think Cindy reads the internet just like she always did.  She may even read here, but she surely reads at the most visible sources of news and opinion about the case.

What's the deal with their new lawyer?  He is in a wheelchair and I think he often seems in poor health, as with all the coughing today.

Yes, I wondered about that, too.  Does any monkey know why Conway is in a wheel chair?

i think diving/swimming accident-when he was a teenager or pretty young, i think.

wendi

Yes I read awhile back that it was a surfing accident.